Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[G650 14263]

11 hours ago, Hefeweizen said:

Honestly it’s become boring.  Kind of like scat shaggy.  I only see embedded tweets these days as I dropped the app and don’t really care any more.  It’s going to be phony stark fanbois and other weirdos only pretty soon.

This is my main takeaway. It's having basically the opposite of the intended effect. Everyone is just dunking on them for a minute then moving on with a yawn.

[Clintonaldo 2574]

Just like the non idiots and fan boys predicted.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-board-missing-action-musk-195113776.html

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2 hours ago, SmokeyTheBear said:

School us on how it is a joke

2 hours ago, NoName said:

i genuinely want to know why you think it's a joke and why you think it would be bad if it was here. i didn't know anyone who doesn't work in advertising thought it was a bad thing.

1 hour ago, F250 said:

It's not a joke you are an idiot worthy of derision.

He works in advertising or for an analytics/data company that benefits from selling anybody and everybody's data without their permission or knowledge.

Or he doesn't know what it actually is.

If more Americans knew just how much is out there about them in various databases, and if they knew what is done with that data, they'd shit their pants and demand a GDPR today.  Especially those cheating on spouses or engaged in activities that they wouldn't want other people to know about, but pretty much everybody in general would shit their pants.

[NoName 16353]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

He works in advertising or for an analytics/data company that benefits from selling anybody and everybody's data without their permission or knowledge.

Or he doesn't know what it actually is.

If more Americans knew just how much is out there about them in various databases, and if they knew what is done with that data, they'd shit their pants and demand a GDPR today.  Especially those cheating on spouses or engaged in activities that they wouldn't want other people to know about, but pretty much everybody in general would shit their pants.

[Chuckie Finster 22694]

10 hours ago, McCroskey said:

Are you paying attention at all to what they are releasing lately, or are you just concluding it’s all fictitious?

If it’s the latter, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Many officers of Twitter made official statements on the practices and policies of the company and certainly those statements were meant to influence both shareholder and advertiser opinions. Some of those statements and actions are now considered to be deceptive and/or intentionally misleading and that’s something worth exploring further.

2022 voters:  "Hey Republicans, be less weird"

One month later: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE PLANET IS A THOUSAND TWEET THREAD THAT DETAILS HOW A PRIVATE WEBSITE FOLLOWED IT'S PUBLICALLY PUBLISHED RULES TO MINIMIZE THE SPREAD OF SPAM AND HATE RHETORIC

[Firemans4Horn 18080]

5 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

2022 voters:  "Hey Republicans, be less weird"

One month later: THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ON THE PLANET IS A THOUSAND TWEET THREAD THAT DETAILS HOW A PRIVATE WEBSITE FOLLOWED IT'S PUBLICALLY PUBLISHED RULES TO MINIMIZE THE SPREAD OF SPAM AND HATE RHETORIC

THE WORLDS RICHEST MAN WILL BUY A MEDIA COMPANY, HAPHAZARDLY FIRE 80% OF THE WORKFORCE, AND THEN PUBLICLY RELEASE YEARS OLD INTERNAL EMAILS FROM THOSE FIRED EMPLOYEES. 

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39 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

THE WORLDS RICHEST MAN WILL BUY A MEDIA COMPANY, HAPHAZARDLY FIRE 80% OF THE WORKFORCE, AND THEN PUBLICLY RELEASE YEARS OLD INTERNAL EMAILS FROM THOSE FIRED EMPLOYEES. 

AND HE'S GOING TO DELIBERATELY DRAW ATTENTION TO HUNTER BIDEN'S DICK PICS.  DON'T FORGET THE DICK PICS.

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I had to look it up, because I thought "No fucking way SpaceX is going to send 9 civilians around the moon by themselves, without a single astronaut/pilot amongst them" but it looks like there will be 1-2 crew members.

But it would have been a very Elon Musk thing to do, allow a 6-day trip through space with a bunch of artists and YouTubers, and nobody around to do anything if shit went sideways.

Also, going to be a lot of sex on that trip.

[Chopper 17236]

13 hours ago, McCroskey said:

That goes along the lines with what I just replied above...at least he's owning the fact he's saying he's going to shadowban certain accounts/tweets and the people will know he's doing it.  They can choose not to trust or believe him, but at least it's out there and more information for people & advertisers to make their own determinations.

The problem with the last few years is Twitter was doing the exact same thing but telling people they weren't.  I don't see how that's hard to miss. 

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news to your new theorizing but twitter's algorithm was studied extensively in 2021 by an independent party and found to boost the far right over and above everyone else.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/oct/22/twitter-admits-bias-in-algorithm-for-rightwing-politicians-and-news-outlets

I'll give that study a bit more credence than a couple wingtard elmo sycophants extremely selectively going through how morons like dan bongino may have been treated on twitter at one time.

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Because if I was that Japanese billionaire, and I'm paying for 8 other people to come along on a 6-day trip around the moon, somebody is going to be fucking me (other than Elon Musk).

[wildcat09 29355]

13 hours ago, McCroskey said:

I have absolutely no idea if any laws were broken but you potentially had a publicly traded corporation lying to shareholders and advertisers about how they were doing business.  Nothing Musk is releasing now is "proof," but it does raise suspicions and I think warrants additional examinations on how these highly influential tech companies make private/confidential business decisions that impact most citizens.

In hindsight, it's a shame Twitter didn't just publicize what they were willing to tolerate on their platform and hold a firm stance on their positions and what types of users they wanted engaging on the platform. 

 

No, you actually don't. Again, saying this doesn't just make it true.

[F250 28777]

15 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

 

There will be a surprise appearance by Puck.

 

[mchookem 16336]

i mean ngl Hunter Biden's dick is pretty impressive, i can see why fanbois want unfettered access to it...

 

BUT PSA: WOMEN STILL DON'T WANT DICK PICS.

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by mchookem

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

 

[Chopper 17236]

Is there any misinformation in particular that you're concerned about?  Is that real? 

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2 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Is there any misinformation in particular that you're concerned about?  Is that real? 

Musk owning himself again, without even realizing it.

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Because if I was that Japanese billionaire, and I'm paying for 8 other people to come along on a 6-day trip around the moon, somebody is going to be fucking me (other than Elon Musk).

First there’s gonna be some drinkin. Then there’s gonna be some fightin. And then there’s gonna be some fuckin

 

Sounds awesome who all is going to be there?

 

Just you and me!

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[Brisketexan 105152]

17 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 

The question to ask is "which core group of users is most likely to treat Musk like a God and praise him relentlessly if he ingratiates himself with them?"  Everyone knows the answer.  And that answer is determinative, as the primary driver of this entire endeavor is EM's narcissism.  And we have all learned how narcissists work -- it's not so much how many people like you or admire you, it's how intense their worship and devotion is.

A million people thinking well of you?  Cool.

100,000 people worshipping you as a god and praising every move you make, even the ones that directly contradict each other?  THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout.

[Clintonaldo 2574]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The question to ask is "which core group of users is most likely to treat Musk like a God and praise him relentlessly if he ingratiates himself with them?"  Everyone knows the answer.  And that answer is determinative, as the primary driver of this entire endeavor is EM's narcissism.  And we have all learned how narcissists work -- it's not so much how many people like you or admire you, it's how intense their worship and devotion is.

A million people thinking well of you?  Cool.

100,000 people worshipping you as a god and praising every move you make, even the ones that directly contradict each other?  THAT'S what I'm talkin' bout.

The people that used to make fun of his “ tree hugging cars” now slurp him. What a world. 

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

 

 

 

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[Prepuce of Doom 21075]

16 hours ago, TMI said:

He shown a light on the inner workings of Twitter to his detriment. I think he is trying to do something right. He didn't spend $44B to get over on people. In fact, most people LOVED him until a year ago. He is still doing all he same stuff. He seems OK to me.  To the left and right they are going mad. I say keep making awesome electric cars, awesome space shit and having a transparent social media platform. 

Welcome, Elon. 

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43 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Welcome, Elon. 

If it is Elon, immamac better hold out for at least 46 billion.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Elon giving off some of those each accusation is a confession vibes....

[Brisketexan 105152]

If it is Elon, immamac better hold out for at least tree fiddy billion.

FIF consistency with history.

[Chopper 17236]

 

[Captainant 27679]

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

 

[mchookem 16336]

well. he has the full on brain rot now, doesn't he?

 

[Chooky 13307]

Elon has an established history of calling people who even politely confront him a pedo. I think he's even settled out of court for doing that. If he stays on this petulant path he should just rename twitter "Birdy Infowars."

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

^^^^

Grackle Guano

Since now it appears its only use is to fertilize 'hate.'

[Chopper 17236]

I only found that imbecilic @ by elno about "children trafficking" because I was looking closer at the thread where jack responded meekly that @Francisco 2.0posted earlier.

The whole scenario with that pale white whale taking over twitter, seeing that nobody in his circle has the balls, sense or decency to stand up to him (that some of them are nearly as delusional though in different ways), and now he's embracing a "Cosmos Pizza 2.0 the electronic boogaloo" is difficult to comprehend.

If anyone has gone down the hole to read wtf they're talking about, can you give me the "twitter is a market for pedos" for dummies in like 2 sentences? Is this like when the wingtards decided overstock.com was selling children in code on their website? Now the employees who were moderating at twitter have become complicit in child trafficking according to these fucking nutjobs??? If you tried to write a book or movie about how many wingtards have lost their marbles and spiraled into lunacy there's no way you could make it believable.

Edited December 10, 2022 by Chopper

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

14 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I only found that imbecilic @ by elno about "children trafficking" because I was looking closer at the thread where jack responded meekly that @Francisco 2.0posted earlier.

The whole scenario with that pale white whale taking over twitter, seeing that nobody in his circle has the balls, sense or decency to stand up to him (that some of them are nearly as delusional though in different ways), and now he's embracing a "Cosmos Pizza 2.0 the electronic boogaloo" is difficult to comprehend.

If anyone has gone down the hole to read wtf they're talking about, can you give me the "twitter is a market for pedos" for dummies in like 2 sentences? Is this like when the wingtards decided overstock.com was selling children in code on their website? Now the employees who were moderating at twitter have become complicit in child trafficking according to these fucking nutjobs??? If you tried to write a book or movie about how many wingtards have lost their marbles and spiraled into lunacy there's no way you could make it believable.

 

I was thinking about this; the subtle shift from "bots and trolls" to "ridding Twitter of child porn" over time is significant.  Elon's cult (and yeah, it has become one) are changing from "free speech bitches!" to "Elon had to do this to get rid of child porn" both whitewashes Elon's reputation and at the same time reinforces that Twitter was some sort of Democratic hell-scape where conservative voices were silenced and child porn was celebrated.

 

 

[Neonmoon 38129]

Per usual, they actually don’t care. They just pretend to care 

 

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

Oh, Elon is having a yard sale of Twitter stuff.  I guess he needs a fundraiser or something.

https://www.businessinsider.com/items-auction-elon-musk-twitter-hq-2022-12

And here is the entire auction listing:

https://bid.hgpauction.com/auctions/8421/herita10194

 

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Twitter fans may soon have an opportunity to own memorabilia and supplies from the social media company's San Francisco office. 

The company is cleaning out perhaps some of its most — and least — interesting items in an auction next year.

Bidding begins on January 17, 2023, at 7 a.m. Pacific Time and ends on January 18 at 10 a.m., according to the website BidSpotter, which is listing the items that will be auctioned off by Heritage Global Partners.

 

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The auction comes at a time when Twitter CEO Elon Musk is reducing expenses after purchasing the social media platform for $44 billion. Musk has cut everything from infrastructure budgets, employee perks like at-home Wi-Fi and travel allowances, and holiday pay for contractors.

However, in an interview with Fortune, Nick Dove, a representative at HGP, said the auction did not relate to the finances of the company, and that anyone who thought so was a "moron." 

 

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"They've sold for 44 billion, and we're selling a couple of chairs and desks and computers," Dove told Fortune. "So if anyone genuinely thinks that the revenue from selling a couple computers and chairs will pay for the mountain there, then they're a moron." 

Some unique memorabilia featured include bikes that can charge your phone, a 3-ft Twitter Bird statue, and a 6-foot "@" sign with artificial plants that can be replaced with real plants.

The auction items also include tons of industrial kitchen equipment, including refrigerators and pizza ovens, dozens of display screens, iMac monitors, and gray swivel office chairs.

Bidding begins between $25 and $50 on all items.

 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Francisco 2.0

[Neonmoon 38129]

Also, this is why you don’t let idiots talk. They ignore pertinent information because it doesn’t support want they want to be true 

Let’s see. Why was it hard to get funding for projects in 2022? To replace CSE employees that left?

 

[Neonmoon 38129]

Not to mention this 

 

[wildcat09 29355]

Elon might be the worst liar in world history. I don’t mean that he lies more than anyone, I mean he’s worse at it than anyone. It’s such low effort bullshit that I’d feel insulted if I wasn’t pretty sure that this is actually the best he can do.

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[Chopper 17236]

Came across this video where a highly entertaining aussie mechanic/youtuber slams the likelihood for success of the tesla semi. I found it interesting but I know very little about EVs.

The tldr is that the extra mass required for the EV vehicle (somewhat surprisingly to me EVs necessarily weigh substantially more than ICEs...which makes sense intuitively when you recall seeing the vids of Teslas built so cheaply that a dog can chew it up.) means you'd need 8 to 15 more EV trucks, with crew, to carry the same load as what an existing 80 semi fleet of ICE trucks an carry. He also points out the massive solar array that would be needed to charge just 80 trucks (roughly 3 football fields of area), and that they'd have to be recharged during the day when the sun is shining to take advantage of solar power. He colorfully makes the point that a dearth of information released by tesla bragging about the truck's specs and capabilities means their semi project is likely a tremendous failure absent substantial government subsidies to counter-balance the tremendous expense and productivity lost from switching from ICE to EV.

edit - if you watch it there's a good 4 or 5 minutes of commercials you can skip through at the beginning.

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Chopper

[BrickHorn 18237]

18 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 

That’s a really generous use of the term “personality.”

[chainsaw 9869]

Elon's allegations about Jack and ignoring child exploitation seem like the kind of thing Elon could and should be sued over.

[Chopper 17236]

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

I was thinking about this; the subtle shift from "bots and trolls" to "ridding Twitter of child porn" over time is significant.  Elon's cult (and yeah, it has become one) are changing from "free speech bitches!" to "Elon had to do this to get rid of child porn" both whitewashes Elon's reputation and at the same time reinforces that Twitter was some sort of Democratic hell-scape where conservative voices were silenced and child porn was celebrated.

Not only has he shifted away from complaining about bots, he's actively using and in fact encouraging them (twitter polls, trying to increase ADUs in the face of an exodus and decrease in use by once heavy users) by eliminating the staff that was supposed to police for them. 

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Oh, Elon is having a yard sale of Twitter stuff.  I guess he needs a fundraiser or something.

https://www.businessinsider.com/items-auction-elon-musk-twitter-hq-2022-12

 

Just a wag but seems like the cool twitter swag would have been a lot more valuable before elno lit the brand's reputation on fire. 

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

8 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Elon's allegations about Jack and ignoring child exploitation seem like the kind of thing Elon could and should be sued over.

 

Jack probably wishing he would have taken his $1 billion cash and walked away, vs rolling it back into whatever Twitter is becoming.

Elon has his money, so he can cuck Jack all he wants now.

 

 

[Chopper 17236]

Possibilities:

-Dorsey doesn't care about the billion and viewed it was a giveback/possibly faux show of goodwill in return for the huge premium to market paid by Elno for the remainder of Dorsey's twitter shares.

-Dorsey cares about the billion, thought Elno would at least be able to maintain value. Is bitter about it but is SOL for now and is more caught up in his bitcoin con/delusions anyway.

-Dorsey either didn't understand Elno was going to be obligated to pay $1.2 1.3 Billion in debt service per month annum (edit: and it could actually be higher as interest rates have climbed and depending on his loan agreements) or that he was going to feel so pinched for cash that he'd be manic about making cuts to twitter infrastructure and pulling shit out of his ass in order to justify the huge cuts and changes beginning the day he jumped in. 

I think it's a combo of the three. Dorsey has more than enough money, viewed the billion he gave to Elno as just throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck, and seems like the type who wants everyone to like him. But given what he previously said about wishing twitter stayed smaller, I think Dorsey failed to grasp the pressure all the new debt would cause when the company went private, and that Elno would be such a disaster as the CEO. Possible also that Dorsey was very out of touch as CEO and had no idea what could or couldn't be legitimately cut at the company without breaking things. 

Edited December 10, 2022 by Chopper

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

The $1.3 billion in debt service is per annum. 

[Neonmoon 38129]

56 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Possibilities:

-Dorsey doesn't care about the billion and viewed it was a giveback/possibly faux show of goodwill in return for the huge premium to market paid by Elno for the remainder of Dorsey's twitter shares.

-Dorsey cares about the billion, thought Elno would at least be able to maintain value. Is bitter about it but is SOL for now and is more caught up in his bitcoin con/delusions anyway.

-Dorsey either didn't understand Elno was going to be obligated to pay $1.2 1.3 Billion in debt service per month annum (edit: and it could actually be higher as interest rates have climbed and depending on his loan agreements) or that he was going to feel so pinched for cash that he'd be manic about making cuts to twitter infrastructure and pulling shit out of his ass in order to justify the huge cuts and changes beginning the day he jumped in. 

I think it's a combo of the three. Dorsey has more than enough money, viewed the billion he gave to Elno as just throwing shit at the wall to see what stuck, and seems like the type who wants everyone to like him. But given what he previously said about wishing twitter stayed smaller, I think Dorsey failed to grasp the pressure all the new debt would cause when the company went private, and that Elno would be such a disaster as the CEO. Possible also that Dorsey was very out of touch as CEO and had no idea what could or couldn't be legitimately cut at the company without breaking things. 

People incorrectly assume all billionaires view their investments like Warren Buffett

[Chopper 17236]

a 2 part story

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[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

People that actually believe Elon is destroying all child predators on the internets have to be pretty dumb.

His PR team working OT.

[Firemans4Horn 18080]

I deleted Twitter off my phone a couple days ago. I now know a whole lot less about breaking political news and soccer analytics but have a lot more free time for friends and family.
 

Thank you Phony Stark for helping me re-prioritize what is truly important.