Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Chopper 17,355]

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

1) Nobody is saying his plan is brilliant.

2) But we ARE saying that a significant percentage of the population is stupid enough that it still might work.

 

4 hours ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

2. The metrics of using his platform to service the hate machine on behalf of other oligarchs and authoritarians like himself or to sway the significant percentage of the population to which @Brisketexan refers below to aid others who may fulfill those requirements or to sow chaos in order to benefit them.

 

I don't know if it's the biggest problem with this "theory" but he is leading twitter quickly toward bankruptcy, lack of relevance, and  becoming an echo chamber similar to what the other wingtards have created. That seems like it's going to be a problem on his way to world domination. But it's also why I think that if you truly believe he has a plan other than being a reactionary little bitch toward people who have discovered his true nature, you're giving him undeserved credit (to say the very least). If he wants to control the little right wing nutcases, there are much less expensive ways than taking 40 some billion dollars and flushing it down the drain, cratering tesla along with it. What kind of plan is that? It's definitely not one that you can explain with your conspiracy theory bs. 

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Or.....Musk is just a fucking psychopath with no actual long-term plan, just babble and fantasy interspersed with occasional (and apparently accidental, based on current evidence) practicality.

This is closer to reality.

[Brisketexan 105,579]

3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

 

I don't know if it's the biggest problem with this "theory" but he is leading twitter quickly toward bankruptcy, lack of relevance, and  becoming an echo chamber similar to what the other wingtards have created. That seems like it's going to be a problem on his way to world domination. But it's also why I think that if you truly believe he has a plan other than being a reactionary little bitch toward people who have discovered his true nature, you're giving him undeserved credit (to say the very least). If he wants to control the little right wing nutcases, there are much less expensive ways than taking 40 some billion dollars and flushing it down the drain, cratering tesla along with it. What kind of plan is that? It's definitely not one that you can explain with your conspiracy theory bs. 

This is closer to reality.

Maybe our point is that he has a plan (to be a self-serving narcissist psychopath) that, while it doesn't necessarily have as its stated goal "world domination," has been shown to produce that goal as an effect in the past.

TLDR; being a self-serving narcissist psychopath can get you enough support adoration to elevate you to the most powerful position in the world, so....yeah....

[Samson's Wig 3,195]

21 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Publicly, not sure, but if he's skipping on paying rent and stiffing vendors, then twitter is not long for San Francisco.  I don't think the companies that own the buildings or the contracts are going to think "well, we'll let him skip the payments for now, I'm sure he'll make it up latter" because he's erratic as hell, and there is absolutely nothing that he is doing that makes it look like twitter will turn a profit any time in the future.

Plus, if you are with those companies and looking down the road when Musk has various payments coming due, you know that he won't give a shit about paying you for the lease or services rendered if he's got to make payments on twitter.

This kinda feels like some dot-come bubble stuff coming back to haunt us 20 years later - CEOs in over their heads, and stiffing vendors and landlords to keep the company running.

Completely agree.  I don't like that it will probably be Austin area businesses/landlords/etc. that will take the biggest hit when this shit comes crashing down.  Keep the valueless social media tech companies where they belong: California.  Those fuckers falsely enriched the tech bro contingent and they should be the ones eating the shit sandwich when reality catches up.

[Chopper 17,355]

14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Maybe our point is that he has a plan (to be a self-serving narcissist psychopath) that, while it doesn't necessarily have as its stated goal "world domination," has been shown to produce that goal as an effect in the past.

TLDR; being a self-serving narcissist psychopath can get you enough support adoration to elevate you to the most powerful position in the world, so....yeah....

You wrote one sentence and then you tldr'd it with another sentence? Never seen that before. 

He had a free twitter account before. Many people paid attention to it. He paid $46 billion to do what exactly? Tweet more? Was cratering tesla part of his plan? The dude couldn't even come up with a plan for walking on stage at a fucking comedy show and you think he has a plan for what he's doing now? A plan that none of you have been able to quite annunciate thus far?

edit - he couldn't even come up with a competent plan to eliminate the elon's jet account. That's some basic af stuff and he's worse-than-flailing. 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Chopper

[Chopper 17,355]

FREE SPEECH!!

Certain information can't be shared on twitter "regardless if publicly available"

But it's okay if the subject says it's okay to share. (Although the way it's written, "the person the information belongs to," is inaccurate. The info belongs to either the tracking service or the government (I'm not sure where the jet tracker guy was getting his info...I assume it's the FAA.)

 

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Chopper

[Captainant 27,973]

15 minutes ago, Chopper said:

FREE SPEECH!!

Certain information can't be shared on twitter "regardless if publicly available"

But it's okay if the subject says it's okay to share. (Although the way it's written, "the person the information belongs to," is inaccurate. The info belongs to either the tracking service or the government (I'm not sure where the jet tracker guy was getting his info...I assume it's the FAA.)

 

 

Lmfao bitch that's open flight data, take it up with the FAA. Give me a fucking break. If you don't want to be tracked while traveling, don't use a method of travel with federal regulations around location reporting for your vehicle while you're using it. Fucks sake. 

[wildcat09 29,453]

I'm sure the new rule will be universally applied and everyone who tweets about the World Cup final while it's ongoing will be banned.

[NoName 16,621]

Jake is going to get banned 

[atomheartbevo 90,056]

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

He had a free twitter account before. Many people paid attention to it. He paid $46 billion to do what exactly? Tweet more? Was cratering tesla part of his plan? The dude couldn't even come up with a plan for walking on stage at a fucking comedy show and you think he has a plan for what he's doing now? A plan that none of you have been able to quite annunciate thus far?

He unbanned Trump, thinking he would run right back to twitter, only to have Trump publicly snub him.  Somebody with some self-awareness/common sense would have reached out to Trump's people (there's a good dozen or more of Trump's staff, relatives, etc. still on twitter, and they'd answer a DM from Musk).

He is absolutely just making shit up at this point.

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

edit - he couldn't even come up with a competent plan to eliminate the elon's jet account. That's some basic af stuff and he's worse-than-flailing. 

It gets better - if the rumors about the advertising stuff, the phone number requirements, the location tracking, etc. are true, then he is getting twitter booted out of Apple's App Store and Google Play.  From Apple's requirements (and there are others that would affect twitter):

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Apps should allow a user to get what they've paid for without performing additional tasks, such as posting on social media, uploading contacts, checking in to the app a certain number of times, etc. Apps should not require users to rate the app, review the app, watch videos, download other apps, tap on advertisements, enable tracking, or take other similar actions in order to access functionality, content, use the app, or receive monetary or other compensation, including but not limited to gift cards and codes.

 

[Chopper 17,355]

The way he started asking $25 for his blue check mark, got some random, light pushback from Stephen King, cried like a bitch and then cut it to $8 without taking into account apple's 30% should be enough to convince some of you that the man has no workable plan. But there's also the fuckboi way he "negotiated" the entire purchase, got taken to the cleaners (worse, actually) fucked around and acted the fool like he was going to get out of the deal, then the day of taking over immediately cut staff some of whom he promptly had to try to hire back with raises. AND...there's soooo much more! For example, behaving like such an ass he lost 50% of his top advertisers during his first few days on the job. Violating the purchase agreement as pertaining to employee rights. Violating EU regs. Violating US FTC regs and company agreements. How anyone can think he has a plan that any sane person would find...uh...compelling, just because he's pwning the libs along the way (said in jest) is beyond my comprehension. 

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Lol he banned the jet location account again about an hour of unbanning it.

 

This is the deliberate and well thought out decision making I would expect from a CEO. 

I'm sure tsla investors love seeing this.

[mdmost 43,308]

So he banned the guy because someone else stalked his car with his kids inside. So again, he's making rules solely to benefit himself. I mean there's no way someone could've just plain stalked him even without a flight app?

 

Edited December 15, 2022 by mdmost

[Francisco 2.0 32,433]

 

 

 

[Francisco 2.0 32,433]

Musk reviving QAnon shit.  What possibly could go wrong.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/12/14/qanon-musk-revival-twitter/

 

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Twitter owner Elon Musk’s boosting of far-right memes and grievances has injected new energy into the jumbled set of conspiracy theories known as QAnon, a fringe movement that Twitter and other social networks once banned as too extreme.

The billionaire has spread bogus theories about the violent attack on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s husband to his 120 million followers, and he called for the criminal prosecution of infectious-disease expert Anthony S. Fauci. He has thrown around baseless accusations about adults sexualizing children, helping stir up an angry online mob against Yoel Roth, a former Twitter safety executive Musk praised in October for his “high integrity.”

 

 

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And on Tuesday, he tweeted a message with an emoji that many people interpreted as saying “follow the white rabbit,” possibly harking back to “Alice in Wonderland” or “The Matrix.” But many QAnon believers saw the rabbit as a wink to one of their foundational icons, a secret indicator shared in one of QAnon’s earliest online prophesies, known as “drops.”

 

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Musk mocked the suggestion that the tweet could be interpreted negatively but offered no clarification. Among QAnon promoters, though, the message was clear: Musk was speaking to them.

One QAnon-amplifying account on Telegram with 118,000 followers, known for spreading a bogus claim that Russian fighters were targeting “U.S. biolabs” in Ukraine, said the tweet was only his latest flirtation with QAnon ideology.

 

Spoiler

“Elon called out Fauci for creating [covid-19], [is] calling out the woke hive mind, is paving the path for 2020 to be nullified and Trump reinstated … and now he’s directly quoting Q,” the account said. “Elon is an Anon,” the account added, using the term QAnon disciples call themselves.

Logan Strain, a conspiracy theory researcher who uses the name Travis View on the podcast “QAnon Anonymous,” said Musk’s “conspiracist dog whistles” have galvanized a group that was fractured after 2020, when major social networks including Twitter started banning QAnon accounts and Trump lost the White House.

“He’s responding to and validating a rogues’ gallery of right-wing conspiracists … [and] going through a checklist of far-right grievances in a way that has certainly energized them,” Strain said. For QAnon believers, “what they view as a major battlefield in the information war just opened up again.”

QAnon devotees had spent years arguing that Trump was winning a secret crusade against a global Satanist cabal that would culminate in the mass executions of top Democrats and other “deep state” elites. Online, they dissected thousands of cryptic prophesies from someone known as Q, who claimed to be a top-secret government operative but was quite possibly just an administrator of the fringe message board 8kun.

Musk has never explicitly supported QAnon, and some of his closest allies say they doubt he believes some of the wilder things he says online. One person in Musk’s inner circle, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss Musk’s views, said he uses the claims merely to win the internet’s most prized currency: attention. “He wants to muck it up,” the person said.

But in QAnon circles, Musk’s ambiguity and plausible deniability have been seen as a strategic way for him to subtly push their dogma into the mainstream. A QAnon-boosting account with 165,000 followers on Truth Social, Trump’s social network, wrote Monday: “At this rate, Elon is on pace to start posting Q drops to millions of normies and there’s nothing anyone can do to stop him.”

Asked for his thoughts about QAnon, Musk responded in an email: “lol.”

Twitter has for years been one of QAnon’s most significant online spaces — an influential battlefield on which Q wanted “digital soldiers” to fight an information war. Before Twitter banned the conspiracy movement, QAnon believers used it not only to spin theories about Q’s secret influence on world events, but also to recruit acolytes to the cause.

Since launching his $44 billion takeover of the company, Musk has become so popular in QAnon circles that some regard him, not Trump, as the savior-like figure they had been waiting on to usher in “the Storm,” a quasi-biblical moment in which the cabal that runs the American government, media, technology industry and education system would be vanquished through public executions.

In 2017, Q had written that the brutal reckoning would be announced first on Twitter by someone saying, “My fellow Americans, the Storm is upon us.” “Q doesn’t ever say it’s going to be from POTUS [Trump],” one poster in a QAnon group wrote on Telegram, alluding to Musk. “Q said ‘Look to Twitter’. Oh happy day.”

Musk was once portrayed as a hero of the American left, an environmentally focused innovator who vowed to use science and engineering to take on Big Oil and save the world through ambitious ventures such as SpaceX’s reusable rockets and Tesla’s electric cars.

But in the years since, Musk has become one of the internet’s most prominent trolls, needling his enemies with extreme messages and off-color memes that often dovetail with far-right messaging.

Musk, who has said he is “neither conventionally right nor left,” has chatted and joked on Twitter with prominent right-wing influencers and commentators, sometimes expressing outrage about how they have been treated by the “woke mob.” Musk has said the “woke mind virus” — a vague term generally referring to liberal advocacy, social justice and political correctness — is “pushing civilization towards suicide” so that “humanity will never [reach] Mars.”

He has also echoed far-right causes, including saying Fauci should face criminal punishment for lying to Congress and funding infectious-disease research “that killed millions of people.” Musk’s claims lack real evidence, and the White House has said Musk’s attacks are “divorced from reality.” (“My pronouns are Prosecute/Fauci,” Musk tweeted Sunday in a jab at transgender identity, which he has also criticized.)

After QAnon was banned on Twitter, its supporters flocked to the messaging service Telegram and to smaller right-wing platforms such as Truth Social, where they could discuss bogus theories about mind-controlling coronavirus vaccines and communist election fraud algorithms without worrying about content moderation rules.

Since Musk’s takeover, though, he has pushed Twitter to reinstate previously banned accounts under a policy of “general amnesty.” The site has already brought back Trump and a scattered crew of QAnon proponents, misogynists, white nationalists and other far-right provocateurs.

Online influencers who use QAnon to make money from their followers are eager to use Musk to fill a power vacuum in the far right, said Marc-André Argentino, an extremism researcher at Concordia University. Trump’s political clout has struggled, and Q, who disappeared for 18 months after Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, has posted only sporadically ever since.

Musk does not perfectly fit the QAnon mold. He tweeted Tuesday that he is “generally pro-FBI,” and he said last month he would not reinstate the Twitter account of Alex Jones, a conspiracy theorist ordered to pay more than $1 billion in damages to the families of the Sandy Hook school shooting, which Jones had called a hoax.

But like Q, he has often framed current events as titanic spectacles of apocalyptic grandeur. Musk on Monday agreed that the world is facing a “mass awakening event or total collapse of society,” and he tweeted that buying Twitter is a way to combat the “woke mind virus,” which must be “defeated or nothing else matters.”

QAnon proponents have widely celebrated Musk’s impact at Twitter, including the “Twitter Files” cache showing how company officials made content moderation decisions and Musk’s sudden dissolution on Monday of Twitter’s Trust and Safety Council, which civil rights experts had contributed to since 2016.

Musk said the council’s advisers deserved “shame” for being complicit while “children were being trafficked.” He also singled out former Twitter workers for condemnation, including Roth, who fled his home this week after facing violent threats.

Musk’s erratic behavior has sent some advertisers scrambling for the exits, and Tesla’s stock price has plunged nearly 50 percent this year, costing Musk his title as the world’s richest person.

But he has gained in other ways. On Twitter, he is now picking up an average of 200,000 followers every day.

 

[Francisco 2.0 32,433]

Hey, look who's selling off more Tesla stock.  Must have needed the cash for buying Christmas gifts or whatnot.

https://www.axios.com/2022/12/15/musk-sells-billions-tesla-shares?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=social

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Elon Musk has sold some 22 million Tesla shares worth $3.58 billion, according to  filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission Wednesday.

Details: He sold the shares in the company over three days, from Monday to Wednesday, per the filings.

The big picture: Filings last month showed Musk had sold at least $3.95 billion worth of Tesla shares since completing his $44 billion takeover of Twitter despite publicly stating twice this year that he didn't plan to sell any more shares in the electric vehicle maker.

Editor's note: This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates.

 

Edited December 15, 2022 by Francisco 2.0

[Bateshorn 9,958]

I don’t want to alarm anyone, but Elon Musk might just be a child of wealth who fell Kramer style back assward into some early Silicon Valley start ups that are totally dependent on government subsidies, and now that he has to call the shots, has proven to be, well, Kramer.

(Although, tbc, he doesn’t have half the talent of Michael Richards in his prime).

Edited December 15, 2022 by Bateshorn

[Brian Fantana 6,708]

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

So he banned the guy because someone else stalked his car with his kids inside. So again, he's making rules solely to benefit himself. I mean there's no way someone could've just plain stalked him even without a flight app?

 

Yeah good luck suing someone for sharing publicly available information. Also this is probably just a flat out lie.

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

7 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Yeah good luck suing someone for sharing publicly available information. Also this is probably just a flat out lie.

He’s not trying to win money, he’s trying to cause a kid pain.

[atomheartbevo 90,056]

2 hours ago, Chopper said:

How anyone can think he has a plan that any sane person would find...uh...compelling, 

His plan is based on whatever incel he last talked to.

35 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Musk reviving QAnon shit.  What possibly could go wrong.

He really is going to start talking about JFK and JFK Jr, soon.

[Chopper 17,355]

The new written policy is remarkably well thought out and its implementation is going to be as smooth as silk. 

 

Elron only kept the people as dumb or dumber than him on staff or what? 

[Brian Fantana 6,708]

1 hour ago, DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt said:

He’s not trying to win money, he’s trying to cause a kid pain.

Definitely true.

So a lawyer friend of mine just pointed out to me that publicly sharing flight information is literally codified protected speech under the 1st Amendment

[Bama Chick 28,596]

I don’t want to alarm anyone, but Elon Musk might just be a child of wealth who fell Kramer style back assward into some early Silicon Valley start ups that are totally dependent on government subsidies, and now that he has to call the shots, has proven to be, well, Kramer.


(Although, tbc, he doesn’t have half the talent of Michael Richards in his prime).

The racism checks out though.

[atomheartbevo 90,056]

3 hours ago, Chopper said:

The new written policy is remarkably well thought out and its implementation is going to be as smooth as silk. 

The flight tracker ban was about keeping his travels off of Twitter.

This photo ban is about keeping photos of him pre-hair plugs off of Twitter.

He’s headed towards Howard Hughes territory.

[Neonmoon 38,130]

 

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49 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The flight tracker ban was about keeping his travels off of Twitter.

This photo ban is about keeping photos of him pre-hair plugs off of Twitter.

He’s headed towards Howard Hughes territory.

Except Hughes was an actual badass whose late-term nuttiness was likely caused by incredible pain from a near-fatal experimental aircraft crash and neurological syphilis from bedding every starlet in Hollywood. He also got a bunch of hardass Mormons together and had them crack the actual mob in Las Vegas while he was pissing in bottles. 
 

Elron is shitposting red-pill junk. 

[G650 14,301]

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

He’s headed towards Howard Hughes territory.

This has actually been my thought for awhile, not sure if he can do the shut in thing though.

[DigglerontheHoof 21,283]

At least Hughes had the decency to become a hermit and not burden the world w/ his insanity. 

[HenryJames 66,284]

6 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Definitely true.

So a lawyer friend of mine just pointed out to me that publicly sharing flight information is literally codified protected speech under the 1st Amendment

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,541]

4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

 

I anticipate a new rule banning an account that tweets about the financial transactions of others especially if that person is the owner of Twitter.

[Firemans4Horn 18,304]

43 billion to read Grimes’ DM’s

1 billion to ban the elonjet kid

[Bateshorn 9,958]

4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

 

Somebody just got margin called again.

[Captainant 27,973]

3 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

43 billion to read Grimes’ DM’s

1 billion to ban the elonjet kid

Ignoring a supreme court ruling on 1A protected speech, while claiming to be a free speech absolutist:

 

Priceless. 

[Chopper 17,355]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

This has actually been my thought for awhile, not sure if he can do the shut in thing though.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

15 hours ago, Chopper said:

 

I don't know if it's the biggest problem with this "theory" but he is leading twitter quickly toward bankruptcy, lack of relevance, and  becoming an echo chamber similar to what the other wingtards have created. That seems like it's going to be a problem on his way to world domination. But it's also why I think that if you truly believe he has a plan other than being a reactionary little bitch toward people who have discovered his true nature, you're giving him undeserved credit (to say the very least). If he wants to control the little right wing nutcases, there are much less expensive ways than taking 40 some billion dollars and flushing it down the drain, cratering tesla along with it. What kind of plan is that? It's definitely not one that you can explain with your conspiracy theory bs. 

This is closer to reality.

It's not a 'theory' and for the most part I believe you and I to be in agreement regarding his state of mind etc. My point is basically that the collateral damage caused by his behaviors can be greater than what it would seem. IOW, Yoel Roth is having to avoid death threats but Elon has cancelled anyone who crosses him like the insecure narcissist he is but doesn't afford anyone else those protections. That is a problem and it is growing--I don't care if Elon fails at everything he touches, I care that there can be exploitation of his acquisition and have pondered if (as wild and random as he is) he can be manipulated. It's not a conspiracy theory as much as watching to see how this is shaking out? Jibe?

I don't think he has a 'plan.' He appears to have a messianic complex, a lot of SDE, and a whale of a mid-life crisis.

[NoName 16,621]

12 hours ago, mdmost said:

So he banned the guy because someone else stalked his car with his kids inside. So again, he's making rules solely to benefit himself. I mean there's no way someone could've just plain stalked him even without a flight app?

 

Sweeney is i think a sophomore in college

luckily, i am sure someone will offer to represent him pro bono

or, let's be honest, no lawsuit will ever be filed.

[BearSchlong 8,138]

My best friend at work rented a Tesla at OAK yesterday, dropped his suitcase and briefcase at the hotel room, and drove to meet a client for coffee.

While he was inside, somebody smashed his window, climbed into the trunk, and stole the charging pack.

I told him the perpetrator probably had to fence the charger to get cash to meet a margin call on his TSLA.

[Homercles 10,206]

6 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

The flight tracker ban was about keeping his travels off of Twitter.

This photo ban is about keeping photos of him pre-hair plugs off of Twitter.

He’s headed towards Howard Hughes territory.

[Chopper 17,355]

35 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

It's not a 'theory' and for the most part I believe you and I to be in agreement regarding his state of mind etc. My point is basically that the collateral damage caused by his behaviors can be greater than what it would seem. IOW, Yoel Roth is having to avoid death threats but Elon has cancelled anyone who crosses him like the insecure narcissist he is but doesn't afford anyone else those protections. That is a problem and it is growing--I don't care if Elon fails at everything he touches, I care that there can be exploitation of his acquisition and have pondered if (as wild and random as he is) he can be manipulated. It's not a conspiracy theory as much as watching to see how this is shaking out? Jibe?

I don't think he has a 'plan.' He appears to have a messianic complex, a lot of SDE, and a whale of a mid-life crisis.

I don't really see where our opinions differ much, if at all. I don't think twitter is going to be around very much longer in its current form though so in my estimation he'll be out of there soon and tesla shareholders are going to figure out how to pick up the pieces of their crumbling empire. Hopefully we're nearing the end of his ability to use the company as his personal piggy bang  

A friend inside twitter sent me a new rule they're working on. this morning Seems like a response to the flack Elron's getting about selling so many tesla shares even though he promised not to do so, and the company stock is in free fall mode.

/i made that shit up...oh that's right it's called Parody.

[Homercles 10,206]

I’m actually enjoying how he’s managing to piss off such a diverse group of fanatics who typically prove completely allergic to reasonable discourse:  Reddit stock/stonk/etc brrrrrrt-ers, crypto bros, Tesla diehards, Elon worshippers, ‘muh free speech’ types who maliciously misinterpret the law, leopards-ate-my-face wingnuts, and billionaire-defenders.  
 

Schadenfreude yes, but it’s also nice to see someone with near-infinite resources utterly fail at bending the world to his whim.  

[G650 14,301]

1 minute ago, Homercles said:

I’m actually enjoying how he’s managing to piss off such a diverse group of fanatics who typically prove completely allergic to reasonable discourse:  Reddit stock/stonk/etc brrrrrrt-ers, crypto bros, Tesla diehards, Elon worshippers, ‘muh free speech’ types who maliciously misinterpret the law, leopards-ate-my-face wingnuts, and billionaire-defenders.  
 

Schadenfreude yes, but it’s also nice to see someone with near-infinite resources utterly fail at bending the world to his whim.  

 

I truly didn't realize the severity of his lack of self awareness and social ineptitude until recently. The whole Chappelle thing really drove home how divorced from reality he is. My thoughts after that fiasco were pretty much straight up "This motherfucker truly doesn't realize most people hate him." Which is mind boggling.

[Brisketexan 105,579]

18 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

I truly didn't realize the severity of his lack of self awareness and social ineptitude until recently. The whole Chappelle thing really drove home how divorced from reality he is. My thoughts after that fiasco were pretty much straight up "This motherfucker truly doesn't realize most people hate him." Which is mind boggling.

I'm sure there's an actual term for it, but my internal term is "volume bias."  That is, when a person or group of person REALLY likes you -- as in, worships the ground you walk on, praises you as a god, falls to their knees to fellate you at every opportunity, your mind takes their level of adoration (which is at 500% on the adoration meter) and extrapolates it to the rest of the world -- and sure, your brain may tell you to dial it down a notch, not everyone loves you that much (maybe the rest of the world only loves you at 200% on the adoration meter, that seems like a fair adjustment) -- but you still end up thinking that the rest of the world must at least really, really like you, because of how much one small subgroup loves you with cultish fanaticism.

We've seen it before ("how could that other guy win an election?  He didn't have rallies where 2,000 people swore their loyalty to him and promised to die for him!").  Or hell, it's like Jerry Garcia said about Deadheads -- "They're like people who love licorice.  Not that many people love licorice, but those who do.....REALLY love licorice."

Elon has the emotional IQ of a toddler, and top-level narcissism.  That is a recipe for believing that because 10% of the population worships you with cultish fanaticism, then everyone else MUST love you as well.

[G650 14,301]

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Elon has the emotional IQ of a toddler

He really does. It's wild.

[elguapo 4,587]

Hopefully someone is reposting all of these on Twitter 

[HamsterHookah 112]

1 hour ago, BearSchlong said:

My best friend at work rented a Tesla at OAK yesterday, dropped his suitcase and briefcase at the hotel room, and drove to meet a client for coffee.

While he was inside, somebody smashed his window, climbed into the trunk, and stole the charging pack.

I told him the perpetrator probably had to fence the charger to get cash to meet a margin call on his TSLA.

Edited December 15, 2022 by HamsterHookah

[BearSchlong 8,138]

I'll show myself out.

[Goredho 17,511]

This is an interesting thread for those who think it's possible Elon isn't completely nuts, and that he has some hidden motivations that we simply aren't able to see.

 

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12,301]

6 minutes ago, Goredho said:

This is an interesting thread for those who think it's possible Elon isn't completely nuts, and that he has some hidden motivations that we simply aren't able to see.

 

lol his twitter fail has brought even more negative attention to his tesla fail.

that makes no sense.

there is no plausible reason for what he is doing with twitter outside of 'the dude is insane'

[royiv 9,461]

4 minutes ago, Goredho said:

This is an interesting thread for those who think it's possible Elon isn't completely nuts, and that he has some hidden motivations that we simply aren't able to see.

 

I don't think any of that is a new hot take. A lot of people have said the same thing and there are a lot of data points that support Tesla having some really big challenges on the horizon. Big investments in a locked-down China, decreasing demand, more competition, pricing pressures, quality problems and an aging product line-up doesn't exactly scream big growth on the horizon. Add this to the continued stock sales as the share price slides and a distracted CEO and you've got a recipe for disaster.

[Sawbonz 27,780]

If Elon is smart he has begun the transition of Tesla to an electricity supply/storage company