Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[NoName 16615]

on the one hand i feel bad for people who were true believers. on the other hand if you know next to nothing about investment you should have known how overvalued TSLA was and you get what you deserve.

good grief. down 25% in the last 5 days.

 

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16 minutes ago, HamsterHookah said:

When should I buy? 

Now.  Catch a falling knife, nothing bad can ever happen.

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Just now, NoName said:

on the one hand i feel bad for people who were true believers. on the other hand if you know next to nothing about investment you should have known how overvalued TSLA was and you get what you deserve.

good grief. down 25% in the last 5 days.

That’s the bigger issue.  It may slightly affect Elon since he’s got plenty of other money and he can still sell billions in Tesla stock, but this kind of stuff could really fuck over the small-time true believers.  Musk clearly gives no shits about the impacts his actions or words have on the stock prices, but it does suck for a lot of other people.  There’s probably more than a few Tesla employees who are now worth far less than they were a few months ago.

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2 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Now.  Catch a falling knife, nothing bad can ever happen.

Yep, closed at 109.10, only down 11.4% from the previous day.  There’s. O way it’ll drop more tomorrow.

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looking through #$Tesla and keep seeing ads like this, for companies helping the major automakers with their EVs

 

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

Tesla down $14 a share today.  Meanwhile, here's the CEO of Tesla, urging calm in a stormy market:

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2022 by Francisco 2.0

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He’s embracing the yolo concept a little too late.  Maybe he can get in on GameStop while he’s at it?

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44 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Tesla down $14 a share today.  Meanwhile, here's the CEO of Tesla, urging calm in a stormy market:

 

 

 

"In the car, on the car, under the car...what's the difference as long as you're moving forward? That's just one of the many brilliant things I learned from Texas Institute of Tech and Science." Elon Musk, probably.

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1 hour ago, Hefeweizen said:

He’s embracing the yolo concept a little too late.  Maybe he can get in on GameStop while he’s at it?

I saw a few people wondering if he's deliberately letting the Tesla stock tank so he can buy it up and take it private.  Nobody is saying with what money he could do that though, since he was having to use Tesla to prop up Twitter.  Fucking around and trying to leverage SpaceX seems like, well, FAFO.

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@Brisketexan

 

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You have to watch to the end of course.

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damn, hadn't heard that jam in while ^

 

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

Down almost $2 more in after hours:

 

[Aqua Buddha 14653]

It'll be below $100 by the end of the year.  The company has literally no long term upside.

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6 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

It'll be below $100 by the end of the year.  The company has literally no long term upside.

Yep. It's going to be interesting to see where it finally bottoms out.

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

@Brisketexan

 

How you doin’

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1 hour ago, staboner said:

damn, hadn't heard that jam in while ^

 

Still so dope

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21 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

It'll be below $100 by the end of the year.  The company has literally no long term upside.

It'll be under $100 by the end of tomorrow at the current rate it's going.  Hell, it'll be close to $95 tomorrow if trends hold up.

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

Elon publicly contradicting the Twitter Safety person, who left when Elon took over (but Elon hired her back).  What possibly could go wrong.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/12/musk-implies-twitter-exec-falsely-reported-removal-of-suicide-prevention-tool/

 

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Ever since The Verge reported that Twitter shut down its communications office, it’s been harder to confirm information about the company, which seems to be the way that CEO Elon Musk likes it. However, increasingly, Twitter trust and safety chief Ella Irwin seems more willing to confirm or deny rumors to media outlets, a move that’s possibly irking Musk. Over the holiday weekend, Musk tweeted to directly contradict a statement Irwin provided to Reuters, causing even more confusion over what’s going on at Twitter—and whether there’s tension brewing between Musk and Irwin.

The timeline of the contradictory statements went like this: On Friday, Dec. 23, Reuters reported that Twitter had seemingly removed the social media platform’s #ThereIsHelp feature, which was designed to share suicide-prevention resources alongside certain content.

 

 

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Shortly after Reuters’ report went live, Irwin emailed Reuters to confirm that the feature was “temporarily removed.” She said that it would be brought back this week, once Twitter finished “fixing and revamping our prompts.”

"We know they are useful, and our intent was not to have them down permanently,” Irwin told Reuters.

The very next day, at 6:27 a.m. on Christmas Eve, Musk tweeted to contradict Irwin’s statement, saying that Reuters’ report was false and the feature was never removed. In another tweet soon after, Musk declared Reuters’ report “fake news,” while reminding Twitter users that “Twitter doesn’t prevent suicide.”

 

 

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Approximately 12 hours later, Reuters confirmed that the feature was restored, continuing to contradict Musk’s statement that the feature was never removed. That second report credited “two people familiar with the matter” as saying that the #ThereIsHelp feature had been down for two days and claiming that the takedown order had come from Musk.

As of this writing, it’s still unclear which Twitter executive is telling the truth. A tweet linking to the initial Reuters report currently displays a community note sharing Musk's statement clarifying that the report is false, suggesting enough users rated Musk's statement above Irwin's. Musk did not respond to tweets from both legacy blue checks and Twitter Blue verified blue checks, asking if he was calling Irwin a “liar”or if he planned to fire Irwin.

 

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Twitter did not respond to Ars’ request to clarify. Perhaps due to the holidays, Irwin has gone silent on Twitter; her last tweet was sent on Dec. 20.

“Direction of Ella”

According to her LinkedIn profile, Irwin joined Twitter’s trust and safety team last June, after working in similar roles at Google, Amazon, and Twilio. She rose to the top trust and safety post after Yoel Roth exited Twitter shortly after Musk took over.

Many Twitter users became familiar with Irwin after her handle appeared as a watermark during Musk’s release of “The Twitter Files,” indicating that she was the one feeding journalists internal files from Twitter.

A few days later, when Twitter began suspending journalists, the Washington Post reported that internally, the suspensions were marked as ordered not by Musk, but by “direction of Ella.”

It’s possible that after a few media cycles scrutinizing Twitter safety features, Irwin’s interest grew in setting the record straight, and she will likely only continue to be scrutinized for any trust and safety policy changes as long as she remains at Twitter. But with the communications department seemingly nonexistent—and after Musk’s rush to contradict one of the few official statements provided by a Twitter exec to media since his takeover—it seems unlikely that Irwin will clarify anytime soon whether she made “false” statements about Twitter removing the suicide prevention feature.

While Irwin dealt with some backlash from users who have defended Musk as a proven truth teller, Musk was busy introducing another new Twitter feature that has become controversial. On Dec. 22, Twitter added Views to the other metrics publicly displayed on tweets. These view counts now appear alongside likes, comments, and retweets.

Over the next couple days, however, many users had criticized the new feature. Some suggested that it went against research on platforms like Facebook and Instagram and could negatively impact mental health of Twitter users. But perhaps millions more hated the feature simply because of how janky the views display looked jammed next to retweets and likes. By Dec. 24, Musk announced that soon Twitter users would be able to toggle the feature off.

“I think almost everyone will grow to like it,” Musk tweeted, almost like it was his Christmas wish to introduce a universally popular Twitter feature and blissfully break free from all the backlash he's faced since stepping up as Chief Twit.

 

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"Tesla owner since 2015. TSLA holder since 2016. Fun to tweet about everything Tesla."

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by atomheartbevo

[Rudiger 1178]

10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

"Tesla owner since 2015. TSLA holder since 2016. Fun to tweet about everything Tesla."

 

Probably bet the farm when Bitcoin was at $50k.

Edited December 28, 2022 by Rudiger

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8 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

A strong indicator that Elon plays too much WoW ... probably some bitch-assed paladin.

[Brisketexan 105572]

How you doin’

Back.
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Everyday, several of my accounts keep getting added to those bullshit private conversations (it's ramped up over the last month).  And ads are constantly repeating themselves (lots of listicle Buzzfeed bullshit, lots of shitty freemium games).

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

Only down $2.40 after hours.  Things must be looking up.

 

 

 

[CooterBrown 18089]

Yep. It's going to be interesting to see where it finally bottoms out.

No updates to existing aged models, a truck no one wants and won’t see the assembly line, a semi that has less range than a lawn mower when it carries more than a sack of potatoes.

I know what the bottom is.

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1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

No updates to existing aged models, a truck no one wants and won’t see the assembly line, a semi that has less range than a lawn mower when it carries more than a sack of potatoes.

Car companies buying less and less of the carbon/CAFE credits from Tesla (which were free money for Tesla), major car companies hitting the 2023 lines hard with EV versions of popular vehicles.

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This really is amazing to watch in real time. It's going to be in business books right next to the Dutch tulip bubble. 

[Helobious 9503]

TSLA will bottom out right around $100 and I might actually buy a share or two. It’ll hit $140 by May 2023. There’s way too many Musk fanboys to let it collapse & people will be piling on to the “buy low” bandwagon so much it’ll inflate the price again.

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25 minutes ago, Helobious said:

TSLA will bottom out right around $100 and I might actually buy a share or two. It’ll hit $140 by May 2023. There’s way too many Musk fanboys to let it collapse & people will be piling on to the “buy low” bandwagon so much it’ll inflate the price again.

The things below are not good things for the future of Tesla - other than fanboys buying the stock, what is happening to make it worth more than it currently is?

And what happens when Musk keeps fucking around on twitter like an idiot, and keeps selling Tesla stock (and more and more of it) to prop up Twitter?

2 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

No updates to existing aged models, a truck no one wants and won’t see the assembly line, a semi that has less range than a lawn mower when it carries more than a sack of potatoes.

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Car companies buying less and less of the carbon/CAFE credits from Tesla (which were free money for Tesla), major car companies hitting the 2023 lines hard with EV versions of popular vehicles.

 

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“His politics are difficult to discern.”

 

[NoName 16615]

8 hours ago, Helobious said:

TSLA will bottom out right around $100 and I might actually buy a share or two. It’ll hit $140 by May 2023. There’s way too many Musk fanboys to let it collapse & people will be piling on to the “buy low” bandwagon so much it’ll inflate the price again.

TSLA gets the Helobious kiss of death.

this is all but a guarantee that it crashes to like $12 in the next 6 months

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by NoName

[NoName 16615]

2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

“His politics are difficult to discern.”

 

we have a super sick Elon burn, y'all!

this motherfucker is out here replying to tweets at like 130 AM Pacific and reading and replying to accounts with <300 followers! he replied to the weird graphic above

 

Edited December 28, 2022 by NoName

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13596]

Musk, later today- I was being ironic!

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

I own a Tesla and Tesla stock, both of which I was a late entrant on.  I feel like it must have felt to start UT right when they announced Charlie Strong’s hiring

[B00M 6581]

9 hours ago, Helobious said:

TSLA will bottom out right around $100 and I might actually buy a share or two. It’ll hit $140 by May 2023. There’s way too many Musk fanboys to let it collapse & people will be piling on to the “buy low” bandwagon so much it’ll inflate the price again.

His fan boys are broke putting every last dollar into GME and don’t buy EVs so long term outlook not good

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Edited December 28, 2022 by B00M

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Tonight on ABC news at 6 pm: A man with small dick syndrome accuses a random man on the internet of having tiny testes.

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14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

"Tesla owner since 2015. TSLA holder since 2016. Fun to tweet about everything Tesla."

 

P/E is less than 20 now is a reason this guy thinks you should buy.  

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2 hours ago, NoName said:

this motherfucker is out here replying to tweets at like 130 AM Pacific and reading and replying to accounts with <300 followers! he replied to the weird graphic above

Are the CEOs of Boeing, Ford, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, GM, etc. staying up at night to telling random strangers with few followers on the internet that they have small balls?

Because that’s exactly what you want out of a CEO of a a major space company or carmaker.  Gives you confidence in their decision making abilities and in no way makes you question their mental stability or what kind of substances they put in their body, and he’s just like his fans!

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4 minutes ago, B00M said:

Bill Clinton wasn’t lying!

You can smoke but not inhale!

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20 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Are the CEOs of Boeing, Ford, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, GM, etc. staying up at night to telling random strangers with few followers on the internet that they have small balls?

Because that’s exactly what you want out of a CEO of a a major space company or carmaker.  Gives you confidence in their decision making abilities and in no way makes you question their mental stability or what kind of substances they put in their body, and he’s just like his fans!

 

I heard a saying once that stuck with me:  You can never be an expert in your own town.  Evidently it's a Mark Twain-ism.  I think that's the biggest problem here.  He is showing he is "just like his fans!" and it has pierced the perceived unattainable genius visionary image that was put on him.

 

So I actually think that the CEO of Wal-Mart doing this would not be as bad.  It's not key to their brand.  So not only is he acting like a Grade A imbecile, he's doing so as the head of a brand that most depends on the CEO not doing it.

[trza-hawk 269]

He is more accurately described as Gen-X, not boomer. The trends of the age cohort group named Gen-X is the subject of many pieces in the political press lately. When you look at the most annoying people on the internet, many fit into the age cohort group.

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2 minutes ago, trza-hawk said:

He is more accurately described as Gen-X, not boomer. The trends of the age cohort group named Gen-X is the subject of many pieces in the political press lately. When you look at the most annoying people on the internet, many fit into the age cohort group.

Older Gen-Xers are just getting old. It’s nothing to do with generations, which are in general just talked about by boring people who have nothing to feel special about but when they were born. 

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1 hour ago, B00M said:

He even smokes weed like an inept poser tryhard trying hard to make the cool kids like them. 

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18 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Older Gen-Xers are just getting old. It’s nothing to do with generations, which are in general just talked about by boring people who have nothing to feel special about but when they were born. 

Sure they do.  People are effected for life by what they experience in their impressionable years.  People that grew up in the 30s depression will always have different outlooks than people that only knew 1940s and 50s prosperity.  People that watched JFK and LBJ will think differently than those that watched Reagan and Bush. People soaked in Tarantino and Nirvana will have different sensibilities than those that did disco and Family Ties. 

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The age cohort groups are discussed in generalities. Gen X people grew up thinking that the Baby Boomers and Hippies were dumb. They remember a time when the internet was new. They are invested in pop culture like alternative rock or movies like The Matrix and make many references to the culture of the time. I have too many Gen-Xers in my feeds and they are either very receptive/understanding of Musk or some even buy the entire bill of goods he is selling with the twitter files. The gen-x dudes on my local sports talk radio station even took time from their show to call the guy "smart"  before I changed the station recently.

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5 minutes ago, trza-hawk said:

I have too many Gen-Xers in my feeds and they are either very receptive/understanding of Musk or some even buy the entire bill of goods he is selling with the twitter files.

This says a lot more about your feeds than Gen X