Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

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Man what I'd give for a US judge to issue a ruling like the Brazilian judge did (from AP reporting) :

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In his decision, Justice Alexandre de Moraes noted that Musk on Saturday began waging a public “disinformation campaign” regarding the top court’s actions, and that Musk continued the following day — most notably with comments that his social media company X would cease to comply with the court’s orders to block certain accounts.

“The flagrant conduct of obstruction of Brazilian justice, incitement of crime, the public threat of disobedience of court orders and future lack of cooperation from the platform are facts that disrespect the sovereignty of Brazil,” de Moraes wrote.

Musk will be investigated for alleged intentional criminal instrumentalization of X as part of an investigation into a network of people known as digital militias who allegedly spread defamatory fake news and threats against Supreme Court justices, according to the text of the decision. The new investigation will look into whether Musk engaged in obstruction, criminal organization and incitement.

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Brazil’s attorney general wrote Saturday night that it was urgent for Brazil to regulate social media platforms. “We cannot live in a society in which billionaires domiciled abroad have control of social networks and put themselves in a position to violate the rule of law, failing to comply with court orders and threatening our authorities. Social peace is non-negotiable,” Jorge Messias wrote on X.

An indictment over using Twitter to spread disinformation, incite crime and public disobedience of court orders, and gin up """digital militias"""? Man even fuckin' Brazil is making us look like busters, taking measures to prevent foreign interference in domestic affairs via social media.

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It's especially funny to see elmo fighting this under the guise of """free speech""" when he's approved a supermajority of censorship requests from India, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey - and that was just as of May'23! 

It's all just a confidence game and he's using a tired and well worn script to run his plays.

Edited April 8 by Captainant

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22 hours ago, aggie08 said:

Not maybe vehicles you can easily fit eight whole bags of Home Depot-sized topsoil in. I can just barely squeeze that much in my Mazda Miata's trunk.

Your car sounds woke bro

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11 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

 

Robotaxis are no more of a threat to public transit than regular taxis were. In the end they simply cost too much.

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It's almost as if people take public transportation because it's cheaper than taxis, Lyft, and Uber. 

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15 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's almost as if people take public transportation because it's cheaper than taxis, Lyft, and Uber. 

It's shocking that this billionaire apartheid gemstone mine heir doesn't have a good feel on why people use public transit

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14 hours ago, HenryJames said:

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

Well that and the giant bag of cash the Saudis gave him to buy Twitter lol, and the Saudis arent exactly renowned for their posture towards free speech. 

Yes, yes they are. 

Also Saudi BBQ is the worst!

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14 hours ago, HenryJames said:

I think he meant it will kill the public with transportation

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3 hours ago, mdmost said:

It's almost as if people take public transportation because it's cheaper than taxis, Lyft, and Uber. 

I do it for the ambiance and witty repartee 

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Elon Musk Didn’t Want His Latest Deposition Released. Here It Is.

Musk is being sued for falsely suggesting a 22-year-old Jewish man was part of a neo-Nazi brawl.

 

SpoilerSebastian MurdockApr 8, 2024, 01:00 PM EDT

 

 

Elon Musk sat for a two-hour deposition to answer questions about his role in amplifying a false conspiracy that accused a 22-year-old Jewish man of being involved in a neo-Nazi brawl. It did not go well for Musk.

Illustration:Jianan Liu/HuffPost; Photo:Getty Images

Elon Musk was deposed last month over his role in allegedly promoting a false conspiracy theory that a 22-year-old Jewish man participated in a neo-Nazi brawl. 

Musk tried to keep the deposition from going public, and perhaps for good reason: It did not go well for him.

“There’s some risk that what I say is incorrect, but one has to balance that against having a chilling effect on free speech in general, which would undermine the entire foundation of our democracy,” Musk, the owner of X (formerly Twitter), said during the deposition.

The lawsuit against the billionaire, filed in October, alleges that Musk used his colossal social media platform to amplify a false far-right conspiracy theory linking 22-year-old Ben Brody to a brawl in Oregon between the neo-Nazi group Rose City Nationalists and the Proud Boys, a neo-fascist fight club. The brawl occurred during Oregon City’s first Pride Night Fest, when both groups came to disrupt the event and spew anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric.

Brody wasn’t even in the same state when the June 24 brawl occurred. But his world was turned upside down when far-right X accounts, magnified by Musk, falsely identified him as a member of Rose City Nationalists (and an undercover federal agent) and posted his personal information online.

Musk amplified the conspiracy theory repeatedly to his more than 180 million followers, suggesting Brody was a fresh-faced federal agent pretending to be a neo-Nazi in a “false flag situation,” a phrase used to suggest a harmful event was deliberately set up to misrepresent a group or person.

“Looks like one is a college student (who wants to join the govt) and another is maybe an Antifa member, but nonetheless a probable false flag situation,” Musk posted to X after Brody had been falsely identified as a Rose City Nationalists member. The post remains on X.

Brody said he and his family were forced to flee their home amid the fallout from Musk’s posts. He’s seeking more than $1 million in damages. The next court hearing is scheduled for April 22.

On March 27, Musk sat for a two-hour deposition with attorneys from both parties over Zoom. Following the testimony, Musk’s lawyer, Alex Spiro, filed multiple emergency motions in an attempt to keep the deposition sealed.

“I’m asking that this transcript be marked as confidential,” Spiro said at the end of Musk’s deposition, according to the transcript. “That’s what I’m asking for, OK?”

Spiro’s efforts failed after a judge struck down his motions. Though video of the deposition has not been made public, HuffPost obtained a copy of the full transcript, which was made public Monday.

You can read Musk’s full testimony here.

During his deposition, Musk admitted he has a “limited understanding” of the lawsuit against him, said he thought Brody’s attorney was the one suing him, and revealed he did no research in determining whether Brody was involved in the brawl after seeing the accusations on X. 

Musk also made broader admissions about his failures with X — which has plummeted in value since his takeover in 2022 — saying he “may have done more to financially impair” the social media site than help it. Musk also confirmed that heonce used a burner account on Xseemingly to role-play as his toddler son.

“I’m guilty of many self-inflicted wounds,” Musk testified.

 

‘Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m An Attorney. Did You Know That?’

 

From the outset of the deposition, Spiro traded barbs with Brody’s attorney, Mark Bankston, as Musk attempted to answer basic questions about the case.

“Do you think you did anything wrong to Ben Brody?” asked Bankston, who’s based in Houston.

Spiro interjected, saying this “isn’t a question you’re allowed to ask by the court.”

It was the start of what would be a contentious back-and-forth between two high-profile attorneys. Spiro, who has represented celebrities such as Jay-Z and Megan Thee Stallion, previously won a defamation case for Musk after the billionaire called a man who helped rescue children trapped in a cave in Thailand a “pedo guy” in 2018.

“You keep filing these silly, frivolous shake-down cases, I’ll keep trying to think of Texas lawyers to bring to your depositions,” Spiro told Bankston. 

Bankston, of the Texas law firm Farrar & Ball, previously represented two Sandy Hook parents who won $45 million in damages against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones after Jones spent years falsely claiming the 2012 school shooting never happened.

Spiro did not respond to a request for comment on this story. Bankston declined to comment.

Throughout his testimony, Musk showed little understanding about the lawsuit he was testifying for, and even said he believed it was Bankston — not Brody — who was suing him.

“I think you’re the one suing,” Musk told Bankston, according to the transcript.

“Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m an attorney,” Bankston explained. “Did you know that? I’m an attorney representing Mr. Brody.”

Asked if Musk understood what the lawsuit was about, Musk admitted he had “a limited understanding of that — of what the lawsuit is about” but suggested again that this was simply a money grab by Brody’s attorney.

“My — what I want to think it’s really about is about you getting a lot of money,” said Musk, who paid $44 billion for Twitter in 2022.

 

From An Anti-Semitic Account To Elon Musk

 

Musk learned of the conspiracy theory about Brody from what the lawsuit describes as a fringe X account with more than 30,000 followers that “features extreme rightwing memes, neo-Nazi apologia/nostalgia, juvenile and cringe-worthy attempts at bigoted humor, low effort bait tweets, delusional panics over lazy hoaxes, and a cavalcade of absurdly false information.”

“The account is the social media equivalent of gutter sludge,” the lawsuit says.

The anonymous account, named Dr Frensor, posted a photo of Brody with his personal information found on his college fraternity’s social media page. The caption on the photo of Brody read, “After graduation he plans to work for the government,” which Dr Frensor used to suggest Brody was at the brawl and a federal plant.

“Very odd,” Musk responded. As it goes whenever Musk interacts with a post on X, this one quickly went viral.

In his deposition, Musk was asked whether he’d seen other posts from the Dr Frensor account.

“I wasn’t trying to assess their credibility,” Musk responded. 

Bankston showed Musk a meme Dr Frensor had posted the same day the account posted about Brody. More from the transcript:

Bankston: And here it says at the top, ‘Is this meme insensitive to Jewish persons?’ And then there’s a meme of the United Nations’ logo that says, “Founded in 1945 to end all wars, the United Nations. The world has been at war ever since.’ Do you know if you saw this? 

Musk: I have not seen this.

B: Okay. Would this have triggered a red flag as to this person’s credibility?

Spiro: Objection to form.

M: I mean, I think it’s a dubious post, but it suggests anti-Semitism. 

B: Correct. … I think we all know it reflects anti-Semitism. I’m asking, does this trigger red flags to this person’s reliability?

M: I would say, yes, it probably does.

Still, Musk defended his response to the anti-Semitic account.

“But if you’re suggesting that in order to reply to anyone, you have to scroll through all their posts, that would make it impossible to use the system,” he said of his website.

 

A Billionaire’s Fact-Checking Process

 

Contrary to his earlier statements, Musk suggested later on in the deposition that he researches discourse before he joins it.

“If you care about the truth, you have to go look about it,” Musk said. 

Musk’s own testimony reveals he did little to seek out the truth.

“Would it be fair for me to say that, other than the tweets that you interacted with, you did not secure other information about this unmasked brawler?” Bankston asked at one point.

“I don’t recall securing other information,” Musk responded.

During his testimony, Musk criticized what he called the “traditional legacy news industry” while lauding X’s Community Notes, a website tool that allows users to add corrections or additional context to misleading or untrue posts.

Musk called Community Notes “the best system on the internet” for fact-checking, and said he tagged Community Notes in his post referencing Brody as a show of “good faith,” the transcript shows.

“And I think — I think I really did this in good faith, because I would not ask for a fact-check which is what I do by adding Community Notes,” Musk said, according to the transcript.

Musk did tag Community Notes in his post about Brody, but a note was never added to the false claim. The post remains on X today without a correction. 

Musk was also asked about his interactions with posts on X, which can make an otherwise invisible post go instantly viral. Bankston pointed out that his post on X referring to a “college student who wants to join the govt” was seen more than a million times, according to X’s metrics. 

Musk downplayed the number and argued that his post was merely a reply to someone else, which attracted less viewership than his own post would.

Bankston: You do understand that the amount of people who saw this, who have viewed this, is equivalent to all 30 major league baseball stadiums filled to capacity? You wouldn’t dispute that? I mean, we’re talking over a million people.

Spiro: Objection to form.

Musk: Yeah, that’s actually – that may seem like a large number, but it is not compared to the fact – I believe there are something on the order of five to eight trillion views per year so a million is really –

B: Not a big deal?

M: – hit or miss, yeah.

B: Not a big deal that this went out to that many people?

M: Correct. 

 

 

Elon Musk is being sued for defamation after falsely accusing a recent college graduate of being a neo-Nazi (featured on the left) that was unmasked during an Oregon Pride event that was disrupted by Proud Boys and neo-Nazis.

Illustration: HuffPost; Photos: X/Getty Images

 

Musk’s ‘Self-Inflicted Wounds’

 

Over the course of his testimony, Musk acknowledged his lack of restraint in posting on X and the negative impact it’s had on his company. 

He called them “self-inflicted wounds,” a reference to his own quote in Walter Isaacson’s 2023 biography about him, though he says he hasn’t read it.

“I certainly — I would say that I — you know, I’m guilty of many self-inflicted wounds,” Musk testified.

Last year, Motherboard and other internet sleuths traced a bizarre account on X to Musk himself. The account, @ermnmusk, appeared to be role-playing as Musk’s toddler son.

“I will finally turn 3 on May 4th!” one post read. 

“I wish I was old enough to go to nightclubs. They sound so fun,” read another.

Though the account’s name is not mentioned in the transcript, Monday’s court filing contained an exhibit of the @ermnmusk account that was shown to Musk during his testimony. In the filing, Bankston alleges that Musk deleted the account in February on the same day of the court’s discovery order.

Asked about the account by Bankston during the deposition, Musk confirmed it was his, but dismissed it as a “test account.”

“No, I would not use this account,” Musk testified. “It was just used for — for testing.”

Later in the deposition, Musk again reflected on those “self-inflicted wounds.”

“The — and going back to the sort of self-inflicted wounds, the Kevlar shoes, I think there’s — I’ve probably done — I may have done more to financially impair the company than to help it, but certainly I — I do not guide my posts by what is financially beneficial but what I believe is interesting or important or entertaining to the public,” he said. 

A day after Brody had been falsely linked to neo-Nazis, the recent college graduate uploaded a video to Instagram begging for the harassment to stop.

“My family and I are just being harassed completely, and I would be more than happy to clear up any confusion if necessary,” Brody says in the video. “This is just so ridiculous and I just really can’t believe this is happening to me right now.”

Near the end of the deposition, Bankston asked Musk if he believed he owed it to Brody to be accurate. Musk said: “I aspire to be accurate no matter who the person is.”

“Do you think you lived up to that duty to Ben Brody or do you think you failed him?” Bankston asked.

“I don’t think — I don’t think — I don’t think he has been meaningfully harmed by this,” Musk replied.

Bankston pushed Musk on the question, leading to another argument between the two lawyers. Finally, Musk answered, reiterating his belief that he didn’t harm Brody.

“People are attacked all the time in the media, online media, social media, but it is rare that that actually has a meaningful negative impact on their life,” Musk testified.

 

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19 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Elon Musk Didn’t Want His Latest Deposition Released. Here It Is.

Musk is being sued for falsely suggesting a 22-year-old Jewish man was part of a neo-Nazi brawl.

 

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Elon Musk sat for a two-hour deposition to answer questions about his role in amplifying a false conspiracy that accused a 22-year-old Jewish man of being involved in a neo-Nazi brawl. It did not go well for Musk.

Illustration:Jianan Liu/HuffPost; Photo:Getty Images

Elon Musk was deposed last month over his role in allegedly promoting a false conspiracy theory that a 22-year-old Jewish man participated in a neo-Nazi brawl. 

Musk tried to keep the deposition from going public, and perhaps for good reason: It did not go well for him.

“There’s some risk that what I say is incorrect, but one has to balance that against having a chilling effect on free speech in general, which would undermine the entire foundation of our democracy,” Musk, the owner of X (formerly Twitter), said during the deposition.

The lawsuit against the billionaire, filed in October, alleges that Musk used his colossal social media platform to amplify a false far-right conspiracy theory linking 22-year-old Ben Brody to a brawl in Oregon between the neo-Nazi group Rose City Nationalists and the Proud Boys, a neo-fascist fight club. The brawl occurred during Oregon City’s first Pride Night Fest, when both groups came to disrupt the event and spew anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric.

Brody wasn’t even in the same state when the June 24 brawl occurred. But his world was turned upside down when far-right X accounts, magnified by Musk, falsely identified him as a member of Rose City Nationalists (and an undercover federal agent) and posted his personal information online.

Musk amplified the conspiracy theory repeatedly to his more than 180 million followers, suggesting Brody was a fresh-faced federal agent pretending to be a neo-Nazi in a “false flag situation,” a phrase used to suggest a harmful event was deliberately set up to misrepresent a group or person.

“Looks like one is a college student (who wants to join the govt) and another is maybe an Antifa member, but nonetheless a probable false flag situation,” Musk posted to X after Brody had been falsely identified as a Rose City Nationalists member. The post remains on X.

Brody said he and his family were forced to flee their home amid the fallout from Musk’s posts. He’s seeking more than $1 million in damages. The next court hearing is scheduled for April 22.

On March 27, Musk sat for a two-hour deposition with attorneys from both parties over Zoom. Following the testimony, Musk’s lawyer, Alex Spiro, filed multiple emergency motions in an attempt to keep the deposition sealed.

“I’m asking that this transcript be marked as confidential,” Spiro said at the end of Musk’s deposition, according to the transcript. “That’s what I’m asking for, OK?”

Spiro’s efforts failed after a judge struck down his motions. Though video of the deposition has not been made public, HuffPost obtained a copy of the full transcript, which was made public Monday.

You can read Musk’s full testimony here.

During his deposition, Musk admitted he has a “limited understanding” of the lawsuit against him, said he thought Brody’s attorney was the one suing him, and revealed he did no research in determining whether Brody was involved in the brawl after seeing the accusations on X. 

Musk also made broader admissions about his failures with X — which has plummeted in value since his takeover in 2022 — saying he “may have done more to financially impair” the social media site than help it. Musk also confirmed that heonce used a burner account on Xseemingly to role-play as his toddler son.

“I’m guilty of many self-inflicted wounds,” Musk testified.

 

‘Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m An Attorney. Did You Know That?’

 

From the outset of the deposition, Spiro traded barbs with Brody’s attorney, Mark Bankston, as Musk attempted to answer basic questions about the case.

“Do you think you did anything wrong to Ben Brody?” asked Bankston, who’s based in Houston.

Spiro interjected, saying this “isn’t a question you’re allowed to ask by the court.”

It was the start of what would be a contentious back-and-forth between two high-profile attorneys. Spiro, who has represented celebrities such as Jay-Z and Megan Thee Stallion, previously won a defamation case for Musk after the billionaire called a man who helped rescue children trapped in a cave in Thailand a “pedo guy” in 2018.

“You keep filing these silly, frivolous shake-down cases, I’ll keep trying to think of Texas lawyers to bring to your depositions,” Spiro told Bankston. 

Bankston, of the Texas law firm Farrar & Ball, previously represented two Sandy Hook parents who won $45 million in damages against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones after Jones spent years falsely claiming the 2012 school shooting never happened.

Spiro did not respond to a request for comment on this story. Bankston declined to comment.

Throughout his testimony, Musk showed little understanding about the lawsuit he was testifying for, and even said he believed it was Bankston — not Brody — who was suing him.

“I think you’re the one suing,” Musk told Bankston, according to the transcript.

“Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m an attorney,” Bankston explained. “Did you know that? I’m an attorney representing Mr. Brody.”

Asked if Musk understood what the lawsuit was about, Musk admitted he had “a limited understanding of that — of what the lawsuit is about” but suggested again that this was simply a money grab by Brody’s attorney.

“My — what I want to think it’s really about is about you getting a lot of money,” said Musk, who paid $44 billion for Twitter in 2022.

 

From An Anti-Semitic Account To Elon Musk

 

Musk learned of the conspiracy theory about Brody from what the lawsuit describes as a fringe X account with more than 30,000 followers that “features extreme rightwing memes, neo-Nazi apologia/nostalgia, juvenile and cringe-worthy attempts at bigoted humor, low effort bait tweets, delusional panics over lazy hoaxes, and a cavalcade of absurdly false information.”

“The account is the social media equivalent of gutter sludge,” the lawsuit says.

The anonymous account, named Dr Frensor, posted a photo of Brody with his personal information found on his college fraternity’s social media page. The caption on the photo of Brody read, “After graduation he plans to work for the government,” which Dr Frensor used to suggest Brody was at the brawl and a federal plant.

“Very odd,” Musk responded. As it goes whenever Musk interacts with a post on X, this one quickly went viral.

In his deposition, Musk was asked whether he’d seen other posts from the Dr Frensor account.

“I wasn’t trying to assess their credibility,” Musk responded. 

Bankston showed Musk a meme Dr Frensor had posted the same day the account posted about Brody. More from the transcript:

Bankston: And here it says at the top, ‘Is this meme insensitive to Jewish persons?’ And then there’s a meme of the United Nations’ logo that says, “Founded in 1945 to end all wars, the United Nations. The world has been at war ever since.’ Do you know if you saw this? 

Musk: I have not seen this.

B: Okay. Would this have triggered a red flag as to this person’s credibility?

Spiro: Objection to form.

M: I mean, I think it’s a dubious post, but it suggests anti-Semitism. 

B: Correct. … I think we all know it reflects anti-Semitism. I’m asking, does this trigger red flags to this person’s reliability?

M: I would say, yes, it probably does.

Still, Musk defended his response to the anti-Semitic account.

“But if you’re suggesting that in order to reply to anyone, you have to scroll through all their posts, that would make it impossible to use the system,” he said of his website.

 

A Billionaire’s Fact-Checking Process

 

Contrary to his earlier statements, Musk suggested later on in the deposition that he researches discourse before he joins it.

“If you care about the truth, you have to go look about it,” Musk said. 

Musk’s own testimony reveals he did little to seek out the truth.

“Would it be fair for me to say that, other than the tweets that you interacted with, you did not secure other information about this unmasked brawler?” Bankston asked at one point.

“I don’t recall securing other information,” Musk responded.

During his testimony, Musk criticized what he called the “traditional legacy news industry” while lauding X’s Community Notes, a website tool that allows users to add corrections or additional context to misleading or untrue posts.

Musk called Community Notes “the best system on the internet” for fact-checking, and said he tagged Community Notes in his post referencing Brody as a show of “good faith,” the transcript shows.

“And I think — I think I really did this in good faith, because I would not ask for a fact-check which is what I do by adding Community Notes,” Musk said, according to the transcript.

Musk did tag Community Notes in his post about Brody, but a note was never added to the false claim. The post remains on X today without a correction. 

Musk was also asked about his interactions with posts on X, which can make an otherwise invisible post go instantly viral. Bankston pointed out that his post on X referring to a “college student who wants to join the govt” was seen more than a million times, according to X’s metrics. 

Musk downplayed the number and argued that his post was merely a reply to someone else, which attracted less viewership than his own post would.

Bankston: You do understand that the amount of people who saw this, who have viewed this, is equivalent to all 30 major league baseball stadiums filled to capacity? You wouldn’t dispute that? I mean, we’re talking over a million people.

Spiro: Objection to form.

Musk: Yeah, that’s actually – that may seem like a large number, but it is not compared to the fact – I believe there are something on the order of five to eight trillion views per year so a million is really –

B: Not a big deal?

M: – hit or miss, yeah.

B: Not a big deal that this went out to that many people?

M: Correct. 

 

 

Elon Musk is being sued for defamation after falsely accusing a recent college graduate of being a neo-Nazi (featured on the left) that was unmasked during an Oregon Pride event that was disrupted by Proud Boys and neo-Nazis.

Illustration: HuffPost; Photos: X/Getty Images

 

Musk’s ‘Self-Inflicted Wounds’

 

Over the course of his testimony, Musk acknowledged his lack of restraint in posting on X and the negative impact it’s had on his company. 

He called them “self-inflicted wounds,” a reference to his own quote in Walter Isaacson’s 2023 biography about him, though he says he hasn’t read it.

“I certainly — I would say that I — you know, I’m guilty of many self-inflicted wounds,” Musk testified.

Last year, Motherboard and other internet sleuths traced a bizarre account on X to Musk himself. The account, @ermnmusk, appeared to be role-playing as Musk’s toddler son.

“I will finally turn 3 on May 4th!” one post read. 

“I wish I was old enough to go to nightclubs. They sound so fun,” read another.

Though the account’s name is not mentioned in the transcript, Monday’s court filing contained an exhibit of the @ermnmusk account that was shown to Musk during his testimony. In the filing, Bankston alleges that Musk deleted the account in February on the same day of the court’s discovery order.

Asked about the account by Bankston during the deposition, Musk confirmed it was his, but dismissed it as a “test account.”

“No, I would not use this account,” Musk testified. “It was just used for — for testing.”

Later in the deposition, Musk again reflected on those “self-inflicted wounds.”

“The — and going back to the sort of self-inflicted wounds, the Kevlar shoes, I think there’s — I’ve probably done — I may have done more to financially impair the company than to help it, but certainly I — I do not guide my posts by what is financially beneficial but what I believe is interesting or important or entertaining to the public,” he said. 

A day after Brody had been falsely linked to neo-Nazis, the recent college graduate uploaded a video to Instagram begging for the harassment to stop.

“My family and I are just being harassed completely, and I would be more than happy to clear up any confusion if necessary,” Brody says in the video. “This is just so ridiculous and I just really can’t believe this is happening to me right now.”

Near the end of the deposition, Bankston asked Musk if he believed he owed it to Brody to be accurate. Musk said: “I aspire to be accurate no matter who the person is.”

“Do you think you lived up to that duty to Ben Brody or do you think you failed him?” Bankston asked.

“I don’t think — I don’t think — I don’t think he has been meaningfully harmed by this,” Musk replied.

Bankston pushed Musk on the question, leading to another argument between the two lawyers. Finally, Musk answered, reiterating his belief that he didn’t harm Brody.

“People are attacked all the time in the media, online media, social media, but it is rare that that actually has a meaningful negative impact on their life,” Musk testified.

 

Huh Bankston is the same attorney that nailed Jones for defamation a couple years ago. Dude is really swinging for the fences

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Elon Musk Didn’t Want His Latest Deposition Released. Here It Is.

Musk is being sued for falsely suggesting a 22-year-old Jewish man was part of a neo-Nazi brawl.   SpoilerSebastian MurdockApr 8, 2024, 01:00 PM EDT

 

  Elon Musk sat for a two-hour deposition to answer questions about his role in amplifying a false conspiracy that accused a 22-year-old Jewish man of being involved in a neo-Nazi brawl. It did not go well for Musk.
Illustration:Jianan Liu/HuffPost; Photo:Getty Images
Elon Musk was deposed last month over his role in allegedly promoting a false conspiracy theory that a 22-year-old Jewish man participated in a neo-Nazi brawl. 
Musk tried to keep the deposition from going public, and perhaps for good reason: It did not go well for him.
“There’s some risk that what I say is incorrect, but one has to balance that against having a chilling effect on free speech in general, which would undermine the entire foundation of our democracy,” Musk, the owner of X (formerly Twitter), said during the deposition.
The lawsuit against the billionaire, filed in October, alleges that Musk used his colossal social media platform to amplify a false far-right conspiracy theory linking 22-year-old Ben Brody to a brawl in Oregon between the neo-Nazi group Rose City Nationalists and the Proud Boys, a neo-fascist fight club. The brawl occurred during Oregon City’s first Pride Night Fest, when both groups came to disrupt the event and spew anti-LGBTQ+ rhetoric.
Brody wasn’t even in the same state when the June 24 brawl occurred. But his world was turned upside down when far-right X accounts, magnified by Musk, falsely identified him as a member of Rose City Nationalists (and an undercover federal agent) and posted his personal information online.
Musk amplified the conspiracy theory repeatedly to his more than 180 million followers, suggesting Brody was a fresh-faced federal agent pretending to be a neo-Nazi in a “false flag situation,” a phrase used to suggest a harmful event was deliberately set up to misrepresent a group or person.
“Looks like one is a college student (who wants to join the govt) and another is maybe an Antifa member, but nonetheless a probable false flag situation,” Musk posted to X after Brody had been falsely identified as a Rose City Nationalists member. The post remains on X.
Brody said he and his family were forced to flee their home amid the fallout from Musk’s posts. He’s seeking more than $1 million in damages. The next court hearing is scheduled for April 22.
On March 27, Musk sat for a two-hour deposition with attorneys from both parties over Zoom. Following the testimony, Musk’s lawyer, Alex Spiro, filed multiple emergency motions in an attempt to keep the deposition sealed.
“I’m asking that this transcript be marked as confidential,” Spiro said at the end of Musk’s deposition, according to the transcript. “That’s what I’m asking for, OK?”
Spiro’s efforts failed after a judge struck down his motions. Though video of the deposition has not been made public, HuffPost obtained a copy of the full transcript, which was made public Monday.
You can read Musk’s full testimony here.
During his deposition, Musk admitted he has a “limited understanding” of the lawsuit against him, said he thought Brody’s attorney was the one suing him, and revealed he did no research in determining whether Brody was involved in the brawl after seeing the accusations on X. 
Musk also made broader admissions about his failures with X — which has plummeted in value since his takeover in 2022 — saying he “may have done more to financially impair” the social media site than help it. Musk also confirmed that heonce used a burner account on Xseemingly to role-play as his toddler son.
“I’m guilty of many self-inflicted wounds,” Musk testified.

 

‘Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m An Attorney. Did You Know That?’

 

From the outset of the deposition, Spiro traded barbs with Brody’s attorney, Mark Bankston, as Musk attempted to answer basic questions about the case.
“Do you think you did anything wrong to Ben Brody?” asked Bankston, who’s based in Houston.
Spiro interjected, saying this “isn’t a question you’re allowed to ask by the court.”
It was the start of what would be a contentious back-and-forth between two high-profile attorneys. Spiro, who has represented celebrities such as Jay-Z and Megan Thee Stallion, previously won a defamation case for Musk after the billionaire called a man who helped rescue children trapped in a cave in Thailand a “pedo guy” in 2018.
“You keep filing these silly, frivolous shake-down cases, I’ll keep trying to think of Texas lawyers to bring to your depositions,” Spiro told Bankston. 
Bankston, of the Texas law firm Farrar & Ball, previously represented two Sandy Hook parents who won $45 million in damages against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones after Jones spent years falsely claiming the 2012 school shooting never happened.
Spiro did not respond to a request for comment on this story. Bankston declined to comment.
Throughout his testimony, Musk showed little understanding about the lawsuit he was testifying for, and even said he believed it was Bankston — not Brody — who was suing him.
“I think you’re the one suing,” Musk told Bankston, according to the transcript.
“Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m an attorney,” Bankston explained. “Did you know that? I’m an attorney representing Mr. Brody.”
Asked if Musk understood what the lawsuit was about, Musk admitted he had “a limited understanding of that — of what the lawsuit is about” but suggested again that this was simply a money grab by Brody’s attorney.
“My — what I want to think it’s really about is about you getting a lot of money,” said Musk, who paid $44 billion for Twitter in 2022.

 

From An Anti-Semitic Account To Elon Musk

 

Musk learned of the conspiracy theory about Brody from what the lawsuit describes as a fringe X account with more than 30,000 followers that “features extreme rightwing memes, neo-Nazi apologia/nostalgia, juvenile and cringe-worthy attempts at bigoted humor, low effort bait tweets, delusional panics over lazy hoaxes, and a cavalcade of absurdly false information.”
“The account is the social media equivalent of gutter sludge,” the lawsuit says.
The anonymous account, named Dr Frensor, posted a photo of Brody with his personal information found on his college fraternity’s social media page. The caption on the photo of Brody read, “After graduation he plans to work for the government,” which Dr Frensor used to suggest Brody was at the brawl and a federal plant.
“Very odd,” Musk responded. As it goes whenever Musk interacts with a post on X, this one quickly went viral.
In his deposition, Musk was asked whether he’d seen other posts from the Dr Frensor account.
“I wasn’t trying to assess their credibility,” Musk responded. 
Bankston showed Musk a meme Dr Frensor had posted the same day the account posted about Brody. More from the transcript:

Bankston: And here it says at the top, ‘Is this meme insensitive to Jewish persons?’ And then there’s a meme of the United Nations’ logo that says, “Founded in 1945 to end all wars, the United Nations. The world has been at war ever since.’ Do you know if you saw this? 
Musk: I have not seen this.
B: Okay. Would this have triggered a red flag as to this person’s credibility?
Spiro: Objection to form.
M: I mean, I think it’s a dubious post, but it suggests anti-Semitism. 
B: Correct. … I think we all know it reflects anti-Semitism. I’m asking, does this trigger red flags to this person’s reliability?
M: I would say, yes, it probably does.

Still, Musk defended his response to the anti-Semitic account.
“But if you’re suggesting that in order to reply to anyone, you have to scroll through all their posts, that would make it impossible to use the system,” he said of his website.

 

A Billionaire’s Fact-Checking Process

 

Contrary to his earlier statements, Musk suggested later on in the deposition that he researches discourse before he joins it.
“If you care about the truth, you have to go look about it,” Musk said. 
Musk’s own testimony reveals he did little to seek out the truth.
“Would it be fair for me to say that, other than the tweets that you interacted with, you did not secure other information about this unmasked brawler?” Bankston asked at one point.
“I don’t recall securing other information,” Musk responded.
During his testimony, Musk criticized what he called the “traditional legacy news industry” while lauding X’s Community Notes, a website tool that allows users to add corrections or additional context to misleading or untrue posts.
Musk called Community Notes “the best system on the internet” for fact-checking, and said he tagged Community Notes in his post referencing Brody as a show of “good faith,” the transcript shows.
“And I think — I think I really did this in good faith, because I would not ask for a fact-check which is what I do by adding Community Notes,” Musk said, according to the transcript.
Musk did tag Community Notes in his post about Brody, but a note was never added to the false claim. The post remains on X today without a correction. 
Musk was also asked about his interactions with posts on X, which can make an otherwise invisible post go instantly viral. Bankston pointed out that his post on X referring to a “college student who wants to join the govt” was seen more than a million times, according to X’s metrics. 
Musk downplayed the number and argued that his post was merely a reply to someone else, which attracted less viewership than his own post would.

Bankston: You do understand that the amount of people who saw this, who have viewed this, is equivalent to all 30 major league baseball stadiums filled to capacity? You wouldn’t dispute that? I mean, we’re talking over a million people.
Spiro: Objection to form.
Musk: Yeah, that’s actually – that may seem like a large number, but it is not compared to the fact – I believe there are something on the order of five to eight trillion views per year so a million is really –
B: Not a big deal?
M: – hit or miss, yeah.
B: Not a big deal that this went out to that many people?
M: Correct. 

 
  Elon Musk is being sued for defamation after falsely accusing a recent college graduate of being a neo-Nazi (featured on the left) that was unmasked during an Oregon Pride event that was disrupted by Proud Boys and neo-Nazis.
Illustration: HuffPost; Photos: X/Getty Images

 

Musk’s ‘Self-Inflicted Wounds’

 

Over the course of his testimony, Musk acknowledged his lack of restraint in posting on X and the negative impact it’s had on his company. 
He called them “self-inflicted wounds,” a reference to his own quote in Walter Isaacson’s 2023 biography about him, though he says he hasn’t read it.
“I certainly — I would say that I — you know, I’m guilty of many self-inflicted wounds,” Musk testified.
Last year, Motherboard and other internet sleuths traced a bizarre account on X to Musk himself. The account, @ermnmusk, appeared to be role-playing as Musk’s toddler son.
“I will finally turn 3 on May 4th!” one post read. 
“I wish I was old enough to go to nightclubs. They sound so fun,” read another.
Though the account’s name is not mentioned in the transcript, Monday’s court filing contained an exhibit of the @ermnmusk account that was shown to Musk during his testimony. In the filing, Bankston alleges that Musk deleted the account in February on the same day of the court’s discovery order.
Asked about the account by Bankston during the deposition, Musk confirmed it was his, but dismissed it as a “test account.”
“No, I would not use this account,” Musk testified. “It was just used for — for testing.”
Later in the deposition, Musk again reflected on those “self-inflicted wounds.”
“The — and going back to the sort of self-inflicted wounds, the Kevlar shoes, I think there’s — I’ve probably done — I may have done more to financially impair the company than to help it, but certainly I — I do not guide my posts by what is financially beneficial but what I believe is interesting or important or entertaining to the public,” he said. 
A day after Brody had been falsely linked to neo-Nazis, the recent college graduate uploaded a video to Instagram begging for the harassment to stop.
“My family and I are just being harassed completely, and I would be more than happy to clear up any confusion if necessary,” Brody says in the video. “This is just so ridiculous and I just really can’t believe this is happening to me right now.”
Near the end of the deposition, Bankston asked Musk if he believed he owed it to Brody to be accurate. Musk said: “I aspire to be accurate no matter who the person is.”
“Do you think you lived up to that duty to Ben Brody or do you think you failed him?” Bankston asked.
“I don’t think — I don’t think — I don’t think he has been meaningfully harmed by this,” Musk replied.
Bankston pushed Musk on the question, leading to another argument between the two lawyers. Finally, Musk answered, reiterating his belief that he didn’t harm Brody.
“People are attacked all the time in the media, online media, social media, but it is rare that that actually has a meaningful negative impact on their life,” Musk testified.
 

TL;DR - fuck off, I’m rich.

[Captainant 27,970]

I found the full deposition transcript

https://www.scribd.com/document/721193667/Elon-Musk-Deposed-In-Lawsuit-For-Falsely-Linking-Jewish-Man-To-Neo-Nazi-Brawl

But yeah that WaPo article has some pretty choice excerpts from it

Throughout his testimony, Musk showed little understanding about the lawsuit he was testifying for, and even said he believed it was Bankston — not Brody — who was suing him.

“I think you’re the one suing,” Musk told Bankston, according to the transcript.

“Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m an attorney,” Bankston explained. “Did you know that? I’m an attorney representing Mr. Brody.”

Asked if Musk understood what the lawsuit was about, Musk admitted he had “a limited understanding of that — of what the lawsuit is about” but suggested again that this was simply a money grab by Brody’s attorney

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12 minutes ago, Captainant said:

I found the full deposition transcript

https://www.scribd.com/document/721193667/Elon-Musk-Deposed-In-Lawsuit-For-Falsely-Linking-Jewish-Man-To-Neo-Nazi-Brawl

But yeah that WaPo article has some pretty choice excerpts from it

Throughout his testimony, Musk showed little understanding about the lawsuit he was testifying for, and even said he believed it was Bankston — not Brody — who was suing him.

“I think you’re the one suing,” Musk told Bankston, according to the transcript.

“Actually, Mr. Musk, I’m an attorney,” Bankston explained. “Did you know that? I’m an attorney representing Mr. Brody.”

Asked if Musk understood what the lawsuit was about, Musk admitted he had “a limited understanding of that — of what the lawsuit is about” but suggested again that this was simply a money grab by Brody’s attorney

Regular use of ketamine may eventually cause:
...
mood and personality changes, depression
poor memory, thinking and concentration
financial, work and social problems.

[Captainant 27,970]

The first chunk of it is just Bankston shitting on musk's attorney for not knowing the Texas rules of CivPro lol. STCL comin at ya, motherfucker!

Edit: it also strikes me how similar the off-the-rails musk and his attorney are, to a surly thread starting to get its dander up. Name calling, out right trolling, defendants not reading the most basic of facts about the matter, it's got everything!

Edited April 8 by Captainant

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Edit: it also strikes me how similar the off-the-rails musk and his attorney are, to a surly coaching search thread starting to get its dander up. Name calling, out right trolling, defendants not reading the most basic of facts about the matter, it's got everything!

Fixed.  It’s a wonder none of those threads ended up in lawsuits or arrest records.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,596]

"As I have stated, I have many self-inflicted wounds. I'm destroying myself right now. I'm only tweeee years old!"

[MrBig 5,507]

2 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Last year, Motherboard and other internet sleuths traced a bizarre account on X to Musk himself. The account, @ermnmusk, appeared to be role-playing as Musk’s toddler son.
“I will finally turn 3 on May 4th!” one post read. 
“I wish I was old enough to go to nightclubs. They sound so fun,” read another.

 

2 hours ago, tbone_ said:

Asked about the account by Bankston during the deposition, Musk confirmed it was his, but dismissed it as a “test account.”
“No, I would not use this account,” Musk testified. “It was just used for — for testing.”

Having an account where you pretend to be your 3 year old kid and are bummed you can’t go to nightclubs is some weird crazy pedo shit. And what the fuck was he “testing” it on? Pedophiles on Twitter? 

[Blotto 23,681]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/08/tech/tesla-trial-wrongful-death-walter-huang/index.html

Quote

Tesla has settled a high-profile case that was set to put the electric car company and its controversial automated-driving system on trial starting Monday.

Terms of the settlement were not disclosed. Jury selection was set to begin Monday in a wrongful death suit filed by the family of a former Apple engineer who died after his Tesla Model X crashed while the Autopilot feature was engaged. The trial could have lasted several weeks, but the parties settled Monday.

Walter Huang was killed when his Tesla struck a concrete highway median in Silicon Valley on March 23, 2018. The National Transportation Safety Board, in its investigation, found that Autopilot was engaged for nearly 19 minutes before the fatal crash, when the car, traveling at 71 mph, veered off the highway.

The settlement marks another crucial moment for an embattled company that has lost popularity and a third of its market value this year. CEO Elon Musk and the company say that its Autopilot and Full Self-Driving technologies are ahead of the competition and a big reason why Tesla has become the world’s largest electric vehicle maker — just ahead of Chinese rival BYD. But Huang’s family said Tesla oversold its Autopilot technology’s capabilities, and that it is not as safe to use as advertised.

Huh. I for one am shocked Tesla lawyers didnt want the capabilities of FSD debated in a court of law with damages at play. I'm sure they had a winning case and would have won, but decided to do the Huang family a solid. I would love to know what they paid. 

[Homercles 10,206]

4 hours ago, gofuckyourself said:

Regular use of ketamine may eventually cause:
...
mood and personality changes, depression
poor memory, thinking and concentration
financial, work and social problems.

[ultimaton 2,983]

2 hours ago, MrBig said:

 

Having an account where you pretend to be your 3 year old kid and are bummed you can’t go to nightclubs is some weird crazy pedo shit. And what the fuck was he “testing” it on? Pedophiles on Twitter? 

I mean, Elon gutted the trust and safety team in charge of policing that shit and he personally reinstated the account of a guy that was banned for sharing CSAM involving a toddler; of course he's a pedo.

Edited April 9 by ultimaton

[NoName 16,607]

He really is Miles Bron

editing in to drop the next few lines which are maybe even dumber than the prior few lines

Edited April 9 by NoName

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7 minutes ago, NoName said:

He really is Miles Bron

 

What’s his favorite flavor of crayon?

[Captainant 27,970]

16 minutes ago, NoName said:

He really is Miles Bron

That deposition legit reads like a Surly thread lol. It's fucking crazy, and is genuinely on the level of the Derka thread in terms of unhinged 

[Celery Man 21,026]

17 minutes ago, NoName said:

He really is Miles Bron

If nobody in your life disagrees with you for decades, you too can become this stupid.

[Homercles 10,206]

39 minutes ago, NoName said:

He really is Miles Bron

I read Musk’s replies in Towelie’s voice and it made so much more sense 

[NoName 16,607]

1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

If nobody in your life disagrees with you for decades, you too can become this stupid.

eh not JUST that. it's a wonderful cocktail of

• narcissist
• tough family environment growing up (specifically w/r/t his father)
• chasing the popularity he very clearly never had as a child
• surrounded by yes men
• decades of not sleeping enough
• need for approval - and having to find it somewhere else other than the results of his companies over the last few years
• recreational drug use (clearly this is ramping up over the last 12-24 months)
• overuse of Ambien

all of those combined have led to some pretty clear mental health issues - which he has been told about multiple times by people, NOBODY is that proud of not going to therapy and never going to therapy without being told by many, many people they need therapy lol (also he has 100% been to therapy)

the sleep thing is very real.

this is through the end of 2022 i believe.

dude is a 52 year old manchild chasing the approval he never got as a child, and becoming everything he hated growing up.

add in the fact he is clearly spiraling, can't focus to save his life (TSLA down 28% YTD, all the failures currently ongoing with SpaceX, the ongoing housefire that is TWTR, focusing on xAI over all of the above, stealing engineers from TSLA for TWTR and xAI, etc), and not making any changes that anyone can see and you have a guy who is STRUGGLING

 

[HenryJames 66,277]

Apparently dipshit’s lawyer isn’t licensed to practice in Texas.

https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=329008827&z=1047ddc0

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

2024: The Year of the Dragon Narcissist(s)

 

 

[TexPx 2,327]

 
What’s his favorite flavor of crayon?

[NoName 16,607]

44 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Apparently dipshit’s lawyer isn’t licensed to practice in Texas.

https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=329008827&z=1047ddc0

im going to grab some of the comments from here

 

 

hey lawyers, how big of a deal is "unauthorized practice of law" in this case? is it any different if he's an actual lawyer elsewhere vs if i did it?

 

more funny stuff

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[Captainant 27,970]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

Apparently dipshit’s lawyer isn’t licensed to practice in Texas.

https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/download.html?id=329008827&z=1047ddc0

Yeah that's like the first 20 pages of the transcript, Musk's lawyer isn't licensed for Texas and didn't know any of Texas' rules and was to borrow a phrase, "deposition-shitting". From the first paragraph of the sanctions complaint:

Quote

Out-of-state attorney Alex Spiro brazenly engaged in unauthorized practice of law by
signing and preparing Musk's pleadings, showing up unannounced to defend Musk's
deposition with no authority to practice law in Texas, and drafting and serving subsequent
legal demands to Plaintiff. Even worse, Spiro's behavior in deposition was astonishingly
unprofessional, as he continually interrupted the deposition with commentary, gave
numerous improper instructions not to answer, berated opposing counsel, insulted
Plaintiff's claims, mocked counsel's questions, and generally acted in the most obnoxious
manner one could contemplate without crossing into parody. In doing so, he irreparably
disrupted the deposition, prevented relevant questioning relating to Plaintiff's TCPA
response, and demonstrated his disrespect for the sanctity of these proceedings.

 

[chainsaw 10,001]

3 hours ago, Captainant said:

That deposition legit reads like a Surly thread lol. It's fucking crazy, and is genuinely on the level of the Derka thread in terms of unhinged 

did they get into the size of Charlie Weiss's FUPA?

[HenryJames 66,277]

Using a non-licensed lawyer is meant to protect the defendant from the injustices of state power. - Surly lawyers probably

[Pato del Muerto 52,861]

How was that lawyer supposed to know that they aren’t licensed in Texas until the court informs them?  

[Ted Lange 16,155]

[Francisco 2.0 32,432]

28 minutes ago, NoName said:

im going to grab some of the comments from here

 

 

hey lawyers, how big of a deal is "unauthorized practice of law" in this case? is it any different if he's an actual lawyer elsewhere vs if i did it?

 

more funny stuff

+

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Goredho 17,510]

18 hours ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

"As I have stated, I have many self-inflicted wounds. I'm destroying myself right now. I'm only tweeee years old!"

And yet despite his best attempts to self destruct, he's still out there leading major companies and actively making the world a shittier place.

Because there is no rock bottom for billionaires.

[Schulz2.0 29,039]

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

[Covri 6,269]

3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

Original had too much chin imo
 

 

[NoName 16,607]

49 minutes ago, Covri said:

Original had too much chin imo
 

 

nice job 🤣

Edited April 9 by NoName

[Mrs Whiggins 13,050]

3 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

How was that lawyer supposed to know that they aren’t licensed in Texas until the court informs them?  

Live look at Mr. Spiro when that all went down (all credit to @THUJONE)

[Goredho 17,510]

46 minutes ago, Covri said:

Original had too much chin imo
 

 

He’s becoming… Elonfly.

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8 hours ago, Celery Man said:

If nobody in your life disagrees with you for decades, you too can become this stupid.

That deposition….he is out of touch with reality.

[F250 28,943]

5 hours ago, chainsaw said:

did they get into the size of Charlie Weiss's FUPA?

Large enough to feed a family of four.

 

[F250 28,943]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That deposition….he is out of touch with reality.

That deposition seemed like Elon and his lawyer were trying to recreate a scene from Fear and Loathing.

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So at one point, Musk left the zoom when he wasn’t happy, then when they started to have a discussion about the confidentiality of the transcript and the court reporter asked if Elmo wanted to look over the transcript and sign odd on it and Musk/Musk’s attorney left so they couldn’t discuss it.

Elmo’s attorney kept getting mad that the plaintiff’s attorney was bringing up a rule a rule about what types of objections a defending lawyer can make and was trying to ignore it or argue over the plaintiff’s lawyer to drown it out.

Then there was this:

Quote

Okay. Have you used that quote before from the 2000 movie Gladiator, the "Are you not entertained? Is that not why you are here to describe your tweeting?

Elmo: In a joking way, but not in a serious way.

The chef’s kiss: 

Quote

Elmo: The - and going back to the sort of self-inflected wounds, the Kevlar shoes, I think there's - I've probably done - I may have done more to financially impair the company than to help it, but certainly I - - I do not guide my posts by what is financially beneficial but what I believe is interesting or important or entertaining to the public.

Edited April 9 by atomheartbevo

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Saying Alex Jones had more competent lawyers

 

So @Brisketexan @TwiceHorn @Ghost of LL @South Austin etc., was this incompetence, or was it deliberately trying to wreck the deposition?

Edited April 9 by atomheartbevo

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Some of the comments:

I am interested in the fact that Musk had a lawyer there who was not admitted to practice in Texas, engaged in the unauthorized practice of law, interfering with the deposition. Surely that is sanctionable.

letting my client talk about running an alt account as a toddler then at the end going ahhh yes of course this will be confidential?

"you're even less competent than Alex Jones's attorneys" should be a career-ending insult

 

We need this: