Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

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10 minutes ago, Stanley said:

[NoName 16351]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

wait - is this bad?

[Captainant 27632]

Didn't he leverage himself to the tits on TSLA to buy TWTR? When's his margin call gonna come in?

[Hefeweizen 5310]

That 56 billion dollar payday will come in handy.

[Hank Kingsley 20905]

 

[Captain Ron 12866]

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

 

READY!!!

FIRE!!!

AIM!!!

 

BTW - not sorry if this already was posted, but I was on travel last week and I am just now catching up with my podcasts. This one ... WOW. This is exactly why lack of any sort of support/engagement is a bad thing.

 

 

[Celery Man 20931]

7 hours ago, HenryJames said:

‘Reasoning.’

he's doing a jack welch GE speedrun

[Francisco 2.0 32386]

 

 

 

[Neonmoon 38129]

4 hours ago, Hefeweizen said:

Earnings are expected to look terrible, and valuation is still very high compared to other auto makers.

Very high? It's insane compared to other auto makers

 

 

[NoName 16351]

FYP broken again

currently

• 3 tweets in a row about the mavericks game yesterday from the same account (all 21 hours ago)
• 2 more tweets about the mavs from 2 different accounts
• 1 tweet from the initial 3 tweets in a row account about Mavs game (20 hours ago)
• tweet about Luka from 20 hours ago
• mavs in game highlight from 20 hours ago
• soccer account with quote in it from 20 hours ago
• another tweet from the first account about mavs game from 20 hours ago
• another tweet from the soccer account from 20 hours ago
• Elon Musk tweet about Sheetz 20 hours ago
• 2 more soccer tweets about a game yesterday

[NoName 16351]

someone in comments

[HenryJames 66038]

30 minutes ago, NoName said:

someone in comments

[Francisco 2.0 32386]

14 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Tesla drops FSD to $8,000: https://electrek.co/2024/04/21/tesla-lowers-price-of-full-self-driving-to-8000-down-from-12000/

Once upon a time, Elon said it might be worth over $100,000 in the future.  Funny how things change.   

 

 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 hour ago, NoName said:

someone in comments

 

Sorry Elmo, my Prada's at the cleaners.

[totallynotabuttpirate 5395]

Tesla in talks to buy GM. 

 

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https://www.tmz.com/2024/04/22/meek-mill-hummer-ev-gmc-brake-pedal-failed-elon-musk-tesla/#continued

 

[NoName 16351]

another day, another major design issue with the Cybertruck

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-cybertruck-breaks-in-new-innovative-way-1851426532

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If you’re not familiar, Tesla really wants you to put your car in Drive or Park using the touchscreen. Since touchscreens can crash, though, you need a second way to get your car into gear. So Tesla put a panel in the middle of the windshield that allows you to put it in Drive yourself. The sun visors also attach to the same panel when in use.

Since sun visors get so much use, and moving them puts strain on whatever they’re mounted to, you’d assume Tesla would have done enough durability testing to make sure the plastic could stand up to repeated use. Apparently, you’d also be wrong.

Jalopnik also gave the CT a new nickname i haven't seen before

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incEl Camino

 

 

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[Francisco 2.0 32386]

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/22/opinion/elon-musk-william-durant.html

 

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Before there was Elon Musk, there was William Crapo Durant. Billy Durant, as he was known, built one of the world’s biggest makers of horse-drawn carriages, bought control of Buick, co-founded General Motors, was forced out of General Motors, co-founded Chevrolet, regained control of General Motors, speculated on stocks, lost control of General Motors a second time, started Durant Motors, went bankrupt in the Depression, opened a bowling alley, suffered a stroke and died penniless in 1947.

 

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It’s highly unlikely that Musk, one of the world’s richest people, will die penniless, but in other respects he and Durant have a lot in common. They are, or in the case of Durant were, both brilliant, restless builders of empires and defiers of convention who experienced the highest highs and the lowest lows of business.

I talked to some experts on the wild, early days of the automobile to see what Musk and the rest of us could learn from that period of ferment and creativity. One thing I found out is that the world is not always kind to visionaries with self-control issues. Durant flamed out at G.M. twice. In contrast, the prudent organization man who eventually succeeded him, Alfred Sloan, went from success to success. Renowned institutions bear his name.

 

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“To Understand the Future of Tesla, Look to the Future of G.M.” was the headline on a 2018 article in Harvard Business Review by Steve Blank, a serial tech entrepreneur who has taught entrepreneurship at Stanford and other universities.

Referring to 1920, the second time Durant lost control of G.M., Blank wrote:

 

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While everyone around him acknowledged he was a visionary, Durant’s one-man show was damaging the company. He couldn’t prioritize, couldn’t find time to meet with his direct reports, fired them when they complained about the chaos, and the company had no financial controls other than Durant’s ability to raise more money. When the stock collapsed, Durant’s ownership share was at risk of being taken over by the bankers he owed, who would then own a good part of G.M. The board decided that the company had enough vision — they bought out Durant’s shares and realized it was time for someone who could execute.

 

Founders often fail as managers, Blank noted. “As Tesla struggles in the transition from a visionary pioneer to reliable producer of cars in high volume,” he wrote in 2018, “one wonders” if the generous compensation plan that the Tesla board awarded to Musk that year “would be better spent finding Tesla’s Alfred P. Sloan.”

I called up Blank. He told me that the flaws in Musk that he identified that year remain today. “When you’ve been right in the beginning, you think you’re right forever,” he said. “You surround yourself with people who think you’re a genius forever. You run by whim rather than strategy.”

Edwin Land, a co-founder of Polaroid, was a technical genius but a terrible chief executive, Blank said. Steve Jobs bungled the chief executive job at Apple and was forced out, although he redeemed himself by doing better in a second stint, Blank said. Then there’s Durant.

“Musk is very similar to Durant,” agreed Christopher Whalen, an investment banker who is chairman of Whalen Global Advisors and the author of a 2017 book on the history of Ford Motor titled “Ford Men: From Inspiration to Enterprise.” Whalen told me that with Musk, “We’re repeating ourselves in a way.”

A big difference between Durant’s days at G.M. and Musk’s at Tesla is that G.M.’s board was strong and independent of the C.E.O. (as evidenced by the fact that it booted him twice). It’s hard to say the same of Tesla’s.

This past week, Tesla announced it was laying off 10 percent of its work force in response to a drop in first-quarter sales. Two days after that announcement, the company filed a proxy statement for its annual meeting asking shareholders to re-approve Musk’s 2018 pay package, which a Delaware judge had ruled illegally excessive less than three months earlier. The board also asked shareholders to approve Tesla’s reincorporation in Texas, which analysts said would be a friendlier jurisdiction for Musk.

Musk’s 2018 pay package, whose value is tied to Tesla’s stock price, was once worth more than $50 billion. As The Times described last week’s development: “Facing criticism that it is overly beholden to Elon Musk, Tesla’s board of directors said on Wednesday that it would essentially give him everything he wanted, including the biggest pay package in corporate history.”

Apart from how much money Musk deserves is the question of where he’s taking the company. He announced recently that the company will introduce a self-driving taxi, Robotaxi, in August, in spite of widespread concerns that the artificial intelligence required for self-driving isn’t mature. He seems to have stopped talking about his plan to roll out a $25,000 electric vehicle for the mass market — which would be less exciting but more reliably profitable.

“Musk shouldn’t give up” on robo cars, but it’s not wise for him to bet the company on them, Whalen said.

“If there were a functioning board, this would be a conversation,” Blank said.

After Durant was deposed from G.M. the second time, he flailed between a car company, a cinnabar mine and that bowling alley, which he hoped to turn into a chain. He lost all of his money in the process. Musk is such a creative genius that Tesla’s board has indulged his idiosyncratic explorations. That may be the right call, given that the company might be lost without him. But Tesla’s board, like G.M.’s, needs to keep in mind that it represents the shareholders — all of them.

 

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22 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

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After Durant was deposed from G.M. the second time, he flailed between a car company, a cinnabar mine and that bowling alley, which he hoped to turn into a chain....It’s highly unlikely that Musk, one of the world’s richest people, will die penniless, but in other respects he and Durant have a lot in common.

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While everyone around him acknowledged he was a visionary, Durant’s one-man show was damaging the company. He couldn’t prioritize, couldn’t find time to meet with his direct reports, fired them when they complained about the chaos, and the company had no financial controls other than Durant’s ability to raise more money. When the stock collapsed, Durant’s ownership share was at risk of being taken over by the bankers he owed, who would then own a good part of G.M. The board decided that the company had enough vision — they bought out Durant’s shares and realized it was time for someone who could execute.

 

Founders often fail as managers, Blank noted. “As Tesla struggles in the transition from a visionary pioneer to reliable producer of cars in high volume,” he wrote in 2018, “one wonders” if the generous compensation plan that the Tesla board awarded to Musk that year “would be better spent finding Tesla’s Alfred P. Sloan.”

I called up Blank. He told me that the flaws in Musk that he identified that year remain today. “When you’ve been right in the beginning, you think you’re right forever,” he said. “You surround yourself with people who think you’re a genius forever. You run by whim rather than strategy.”

Edwin Land, a co-founder of Polaroid, was a technical genius but a terrible chief executive, Blank said. Steve Jobs bungled the chief executive job at Apple and was forced out, although he redeemed himself by doing better in a second stint, Blank said. Then there’s Durant.

“Musk is very similar to Durant,” agreed Christopher Whalen, an investment banker who is chairman of Whalen Global Advisors and the author of a 2017 book on the history of Ford Motor titled “Ford Men: From Inspiration to Enterprise.” Whalen told me that with Musk, “We’re repeating ourselves in a way.”

A big difference between Durant’s days at G.M. and Musk’s at Tesla is that G.M.’s board was strong and independent of the C.E.O. (as evidenced by the fact that it booted him twice). It’s hard to say the same of Tesla’s.

This past week, Tesla announced it was laying off 10 percent of its work force in response to a drop in first-quarter sales. Two days after that announcement, the company filed a proxy statement for its annual meeting asking shareholders to re-approve Musk’s 2018 pay package, which a Delaware judge had ruled illegally excessive less than three months earlier. The board also asked shareholders to approve Tesla’s reincorporation in Texas, which analysts said would be a friendlier jurisdiction for Musk.

Musk’s 2018 pay package, whose value is tied to Tesla’s stock price, was once worth more than $50 billion. As The Times described last week’s development: “Facing criticism that it is overly beholden to Elon Musk, Tesla’s board of directors said on Wednesday that it would essentially give him everything he wanted, including the biggest pay package in corporate history.”

Apart from how much money Musk deserves is the question of where he’s taking the company. He announced recently that the company will introduce a self-driving taxi, Robotaxi, in August, in spite of widespread concerns that the artificial intelligence required for self-driving isn’t mature. He seems to have stopped talking about his plan to roll out a $25,000 electric vehicle for the mass market — which would be less exciting but more reliably profitable.

“Musk shouldn’t give up” on robo cars, but it’s not wise for him to bet the company on them, Whalen said.

“If there were a functioning board, this would be a conversation,” Blank said.

After Durant was deposed from G.M. the second time, he flailed between a car company, a cinnabar mine and that bowling alley, which he hoped to turn into a chain. He lost all of his money in the process. Musk is such a creative genius that Tesla’s board has indulged his idiosyncratic explorations. That may be the right call, given that the company might be lost without him. But Tesla’s board, like G.M.’s, needs to keep in mind that it represents the shareholders — all of them.

Less well known and omitted from the article was the boy band Billy started: Durant Durant. I could definitely see shades of Elon that references the cybertruck in their biggest hit from the wayback machine:

Hey now, woo, look at that, did he nearly run you down
At the end of the drive, the lawmen arrive
You make me feel alive, alive, alive
I'll take my chance, 'cause luck is on my side or something
I know what you're thinking, I'll tell you something, I know what you're thinking

His name is Elmo, you don't need to understand
And I might find him if I'm looking like I can
Oh Elmo, Elmo, hear them shout across the land

From eighty thousand in a month to a couple grand.
 

[Captain Ron 12866]

On 4/12/2024 at 10:39 AM, Captainant said:

Well and also that it will take at least DOZEN STARSHIP LAUNCHES AND ORBITAL REFUELINGS for each Artemis trip to the moon. NASA hadn't even thought about that aspect of the mission design until a guest speaker asked the question at a lecture. Starship hasn't even reached orbit, much less validated an orbital refueling procedure between two orbiting starships. And then they need at least a dozen of them to go flawlessly for a successful launch.

 

It reeks of the same slapdash design ethos that the rest of musk's projects have begun to exhibit. Amazingly groundbreaking promises that are astoundingly under delivered 

 

Sooooooo.....

I might have been a touch to quick to defend SpaceX and say they are all clear.

https://www.americaspace.com/2024/04/20/starship-faces-performance-shortfall-for-lunar-missions/

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Starship is facing a 50% underperformance in terms of the payload which it can deliver to orbit.  If this issue is not rectified, it could have grave implications for Starship’s ability to complete a lunar mission.

 

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On April 4th, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk provided a public update on the Starship program from his company’s facility in Boca Chica, Texas [2].  This was not a novel event; Musk gives an in-depth presentation on Starship on a roughly annual basis.  He provided ample discussion on his visionary goal of establishing a colony on Mars.  Spaceflight media outlets offered glowing commentary on his claimed goals for Starship’s marginal launch cost and payload to orbit.  In reality, the most important announcement was arguably contained within one sentence: 

“Currently, Flight 3 would be around 40-50 tons to orbit.”

To understand the significance of this statement, one only needs to review prior statements about Starship’s performance.  Ever since Musk’s 2017 presentation, Starship’s estimated payload capacity has ranged between 100 and 150 tons to Low Earth Orbit (LEO).  SpaceX’s official Starship Payload Users Guide clearly states that “At the baseline reusable design, Starship can deliver over 100 metric tons to LEO” [3].  For the past six years, Starship’s diameter, height, and propellant mixture have remained constant.  The most straightforward interpretation of Musk’s comment is that the rocket is suffering from a 50% underperformance.

 

The article gets way into the weeds on rocket design, but their basic point is that SpaceX has worked hard to make their rocket powerful, but they increased the weight of the rocket, and thus are costing themselves payload. And for Artemis to be successful, they need to hit a target of being able to get 100 tons of payload into orbit or they will have issues getting enough material into space.

[B00M 6413]

7 hours ago, NoName said:

wait - is this bad?

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20390]

The Incel Camino or Deplorean or whatever you want to call it looks even worse in person.



 

[Hank Kingsley 20905]

 

[flatdawgs 1277]

4 hours ago, HenryJames said:

Definitely the blurst of times over at Tesla.

Never fear, though - I'm sure they'll get even blurse. 

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26 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Now, I wonder which brand/car will fill the Tesla void for those who despise Elon Musk and all he stands for.

Toyota, Honda, Kia, Hyundai. Take your pick, all four have better looking EVs than Tesla. Bonus, they don’t have anybody confusing adhesives with lubricants (probably because their employees are not hardcore and instead are out getting laid).

[Born to Run 6569]

 
data published by the Potential Energy Coalition. This is based on a range of national surveys and messaging tests, with inputs from nearly 60,000 people.
It’s worth noting that Americans are some of the most reluctant EV adopters across the world. In 2022, just 8% of new cars sold were electric.¹ That’s far lower than the global average (14%) and way lower than in the EU (21%), UK (23%), China (29%), and enthusiasts such as Norway.
You can see these comparisons – based on data from the International Energy Agency – in the chart below. We’re still waiting for new IEA figures to come in for 2023, but I expect the overall differences between countries will be similar.
As we’ll soon see, there is a large partisan divide in attitudes to EVs. But, interestingly, in a poll conducted by the University of Maryland and the Washington Post, the same share of Republicans and Democrats owned one.
This is all to say that the US is one of the toughest markets to crack. If things really get moving there, we can be much more confident about uptake in other countries.
 

Up until like 2022 it wasn't considered unethical for a Democrat to buy a Tesla. In fact they probably proudly did so until Elon went publicly off the reservation. Now, I wonder which brand/car will fill the Tesla void for those who despise Elon Musk and all he stands for.
Small sample size among progressive friends but: Evs by Mercedes, BMW, Nissan and Honda. At least two of those pivoted from Tesla due to Elon's bullshit.

[Brisketexan 105064]

 
 
 

Keep scrolling through the comments on that thread.

Holy shit, it’s Nazis all the way down. It’s horrifyingly amazing.

[Covri 6244]

6 hours ago, NoName said:

FYP broken again

currently

• 3 tweets in a row about the mavericks game yesterday from the same account (all 21 hours ago)
• 2 more tweets about the mavs from 2 different accounts
• 1 tweet from the initial 3 tweets in a row account about Mavs game (20 hours ago)
• tweet about Luka from 20 hours ago
• mavs in game highlight from 20 hours ago
• soccer account with quote in it from 20 hours ago
• another tweet from the first account about mavs game from 20 hours ago
• another tweet from the soccer account from 20 hours ago
• Elon Musk tweet about Sheetz 20 hours ago
• 2 more soccer tweets about a game yesterday

Sunday morning it loaded street fights and someone getting their dick sucked on a subway platform . Some other uncensored nudity too. I was just trying to find out the basketball and boxing highlights the night before on my feed lol.

[Captainant 27632]

1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

Up until like 2022 it wasn't considered unethical for a Democrat to buy a Tesla. In fact they probably proudly did so until Elon went publicly off the reservation. Now, I wonder which brand/car will fill the Tesla void for those who despise Elon Musk and all he stands for.

It really is fucking weird that all you know is culture war framing for literally everything in life. Why would people want to do business with someone who welcomes no-shit nazis onto his privately owned platform?

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Edited April 23 by Mrs Whiggins
Referring to the post to which Captainaint is also referring

[Francisco 2.0 32386]

38 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Keep scrolling through the comments on that thread.

Holy shit, it’s Nazis all the way down. It’s horrifyingly amazing.

 

Right?  There is a subset of Twitter that is still legitimate news, sports, whatnot.  Then there's this whole other part of Twitter that is the absolute worst that humanity has to offer.

Twitter isn't much different than the internet as a whole.  Thing is, you have to actively go looking for the deplorable shit on the internet, where on Twitter it can get served up to you at will.   It's a feature, not a bug.

Elon is all about free speech, alright.  He wanted a platform where the worst in humanity is guaranteed a online home.

[Hefeweizen 5310]

1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

Up until like 2022 it wasn't considered unethical for a Democrat to buy a Tesla. In fact they probably proudly did so until Elon went publicly off the reservation. Now, I wonder which brand/car will fill the Tesla void for those who despise Elon Musk and all he stands for.

Who talks like this?  Fucking weirdo.

[Neonmoon 38129]

GRhorn or Chrispy

[HenryJames 66038]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

GRhorn or Chrispy

[InkaUtexas 25861]

Seems like Elon will not be vacationing down under anytime soon. Funny, a South African known to control what his people can say, complaining about censorship.

SYDNEY, April 23 (Reuters) - Elon Musk lashed out at Australia's prime minister on Tuesday after a court ordered his social media company X to take down footage of an alleged terrorist attack in Sydney, and said the ruling meant any country could control "the entire internet".

At a hearing overnight, Australia's Federal Court ordered X, formerly called Twitter, to temporarily hide posts showing video of the incident a week earlier, in which a teenager was charged with terrorism for knifing an Assyrian priest and others.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-pm-calls-musk-arrogant-billionaire-after-court-orders-x-hide-church-2024-04-23/

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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Elon is all about free speech, alright.  

Unless you live in Saudi Arabia, China, or Turkey.

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On 4/14/2024 at 11:42 PM, Gatorubet said:

dipshit just posted this on X

At least one person on my team tests positive each week.  but yeah, nothing to see here...

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

It really is fucking weird that all you know is culture war framing for literally everything in life. Why would people want to do business with someone who welcomes no-shit nazis onto his privately owned platform?

[HenryJames 66038]

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/tesla-driver-on-autopilot-caused-fatal-highway-522-crash-police-say/

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Tesla driver on Autopilot caused fatal Highway 522 crash, police say

The driver was reportedly on his phone with his Tesla on Autopilot on Friday when he crashed into Jeffrey Nissen, killing him.

Jonathan Tall

• Monday, April 22, 2024 2:44pm

MALTBY — A Tesla driver who had set his car on Autopilot was “distracted” by his phone before reportedly hitting and killinga motorcyclist Friday on Highway 522, according to a new police report.

Around 3:45 p.m., a Snohomish man in a 2022 Tesla Model S was driving home behind a motorcyclist at Fales Road in Maltby, according to the report.

The man, 56, had activated Tesla’s Autopilot feature. He was using his phone when he heard a bang as his car lurched forward and crashed into the motorcycle in front of him, troopers wrote.

The motorcyclist, Jeffrey Nissen, was ejected. The Tesla was lodged on top of him, police said.

The Tesla driver exited his car and called police. Nissen died at the scene. He was 28.

Using sobriety and drug recognition tests, authorities determined the driver was not impaired by drugs or alcohol, according to the report. Troopers arrested the Tesla driver for investigation of vehicular homicide while driving distracted.

Troopers wrote the driver’s inattention while his car was on Autopilot, “putting the trust in the machine to drive for him,” gave them probable cause to arrest the man. He was booked into the Snohomish County Jail.

Tesla’s Autopilot feature has come under regulatory and legal scrutiny. Since 2019, at least 17 people have been killed in crashes involving Teslas in Autopilot mode, The Washington Post reported in June.

The crash came a day before Tesla slashed the price of its Full Self-Driving software from $12,000 to $8,000.

The technology does not mean the car is autonomous. Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability are “intended for use with a fully attentive driver, who has their hands hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment,” according to the company’s website.

The man posted $100,000 bail and was released from jail Sunday night.

Jonathan Tall: 425-339-3486;jonathan.tall@heraldnet.com; Twitter: @snocojon.

 

[Captainant 27632]

Elon Musk – Dead at 52 – Says There Is No Need for Misinformation Laws

Billionaire Elon Musk, found dead in his home last night, says it is not the role of social media networks to determine what is true or not.

The Tesla and X owner, who is believed to have died from a heroin overdose while watching animal porn, said he would fight any attempts to stop the spread of misinformation on his platform.

 

Police revealed that Musk, who says it is up to the public to decide what was true or not, had been fighting incest charges at the time of his death.

His funeral is next week.

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This is an updated version of the article: Mark Zuckerberg – Dead at 36 – Says Social Media Sites Should Not Fact Check Posts

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I really hope you didn't need to click on this to know the above is satire

 

Edited April 23 by Captainant

[Neonmoon 38129]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/tesla-driver-on-autopilot-caused-fatal-highway-522-crash-police-say/

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Tesla driver on Autopilot caused fatal Highway 522 crash, police say

The driver was reportedly on his phone with his Tesla on Autopilot on Friday when he crashed into Jeffrey Nissen, killing him.

Jonathan Tall

• Monday, April 22, 2024 2:44pm

MALTBY — A Tesla driver who had set his car on Autopilot was “distracted” by his phone before reportedly hitting and killinga motorcyclist Friday on Highway 522, according to a new police report.

Around 3:45 p.m., a Snohomish man in a 2022 Tesla Model S was driving home behind a motorcyclist at Fales Road in Maltby, according to the report.

The man, 56, had activated Tesla’s Autopilot feature. He was using his phone when he heard a bang as his car lurched forward and crashed into the motorcycle in front of him, troopers wrote.

The motorcyclist, Jeffrey Nissen, was ejected. The Tesla was lodged on top of him, police said.

The Tesla driver exited his car and called police. Nissen died at the scene. He was 28.

Using sobriety and drug recognition tests, authorities determined the driver was not impaired by drugs or alcohol, according to the report. Troopers arrested the Tesla driver for investigation of vehicular homicide while driving distracted.

Troopers wrote the driver’s inattention while his car was on Autopilot, “putting the trust in the machine to drive for him,” gave them probable cause to arrest the man. He was booked into the Snohomish County Jail.

Tesla’s Autopilot feature has come under regulatory and legal scrutiny. Since 2019, at least 17 people have been killed in crashes involving Teslas in Autopilot mode, The Washington Post reported in June.

The crash came a day before Tesla slashed the price of its Full Self-Driving software from $12,000 to $8,000.

The technology does not mean the car is autonomous. Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability are “intended for use with a fully attentive driver, who has their hands hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment,” according to the company’s website.

The man posted $100,000 bail and was released from jail Sunday night.

Jonathan Tall: 425-339-3486;jonathan.tall@heraldnet.com; Twitter: @snocojon.

 

When your testing products on the public, a few innocent people will have to die. 

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26 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Elon Musk – Dead at 52 – Says There Is No Need for Misinformation Laws

Billionaire Elon Musk, found dead in his home last night, says it is not the role of social media networks to determine what is true or not.

The Tesla and X owner, who is believed to have died from a heroin overdose while watching animal porn, said he would fight any attempts to stop the spread of misinformation on his platform.

 

Police revealed that Musk, who says it is up to the public to decide what was true or not, had been fighting incest charges at the time of his death.

His funeral is next week.

____

This is an updated version of the article: Mark Zuckerberg – Dead at 36 – Says Social Media Sites Should Not Fact Check Posts

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I really hope you didn't need to click on this to know the above is satire

 

Was hoping it wasn’t. 

[NoName 16351]

9 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Seems like Elon will not be vacationing down under anytime soon. Funny, a South African known to control what his people can say, complaining about censorship.

SYDNEY, April 23 (Reuters) - Elon Musk lashed out at Australia's prime minister on Tuesday after a court ordered his social media company X to take down footage of an alleged terrorist attack in Sydney, and said the ruling meant any country could control "the entire internet".

At a hearing overnight, Australia's Federal Court ordered X, formerly called Twitter, to temporarily hide posts showing video of the incident a week earlier, in which a teenager was charged with terrorism for knifing an Assyrian priest and others.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-pm-calls-musk-arrogant-billionaire-after-court-orders-x-hide-church-2024-04-23/

https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/23/24138062/elon-musk-fighting-australia-stabbing-video-x-twitter-censorship

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Elon Musk is currently embroiled in a battle with Australian authorities over demands for X to remove violent content of a stabbing that took place during a livestreamed service at a church in Sydney last week. Musk is arguing that such decisions could give countries the power to control “the entire internet,” while the Australian government is arguing that geoblocking content isn’t enough in its plea for decency and social responsibility.

“Our concern is that if ANY country is allowed to censor content for ALL countries, which is what the Australian ‘eSafety Commissar’ is demanding, then what is to stop any country from controlling the entire Internet?” said Musk, noting that the objectionable content is already geoblocked in Australia and only resides on US servers.

Meanwhile, Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said that “social media companies, that make a lot of money out of their business, have a social responsibility” to remove violent content from their platforms.

On Monday, the Australian eSafety Commission argued that geoblocking did not meet the definition of removal of the footage under the Online Safety Act, which gives Commissioner Julie Inman Grant power to order the removal of materials that “promotes, incites, instructs in or depicts abhorrent violent conduct, such as kidnapping, rape, torture, murder, attempted murder and terrorist acts” if it could “go viral and cause significant harm to the Australian community.”

This dispute started on April 16th, when Meta and X — formerly known as Twitter — were ordered by Inman Grant to globally remove videos and imagery of the stabbing within 24 hours or risk facing fines that depend on “the gravity of the non-compliance.” The maximum penalty is about $500,000 per violation, according to The Wall Street Journal. In a blog post on Monday, Meta said it had complied with the order to “protect the community from harmful content.”

 

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X’s Global Government Affairs team responded with a statement a few days later, noting it had complied with the order despite claiming the posts don’t violate the platform’s rules on violent speech. X said it would challenge the global takedown order in court and claimed they “go against the very principles of a free and open internet and threaten free speech everywhere.” 

On Monday, the Federal Court of Australia hit X with an injunction compelling the platform to temporarily hide the violent content for global users until the court can determine the validity of Inman Grant’s removal notice.

“We’ll do what’s necessary to take on this arrogant billionaire who thinks he’s above the law, but also above common decency,” Albanese told ABC News on Tuesday. “The idea that someone would go to court for the right to put up violent content on a platform shows how out-of-touch Mr Musk is. Social media needs to have social responsibility with it. Mr Musk is not showing any.”

Musk has lashed out multiple times on X over the ruling, accusing the Australian prime minister and eSafety commissioner of limiting global free speech. “Should the eSafety Commissar (an unelected official) in Australia have authority over all countries on Earth?” Musk said in a post, having previously referred to Inman Grant as the “Australian censorship commissar.”

Earlier this month, Musk had a face-off against Brazil after he claimed to have defied orders to block certain X user accounts, prompting an investigation over potential obstruction of justice. The spat was later settled on April 15th after a letter from Musk’s lawyers said that “all orders issued by this Supreme Court and the Superior Electoral Court will continue to be fully complied with by X Corp.”

 

do these people think stabbing videos are good for the platform, advertisers, normal users, etc?

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2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/tesla-driver-on-autopilot-caused-fatal-highway-522-crash-police-say/

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Tesla driver on Autopilot caused fatal Highway 522 crash, police say

The driver was reportedly on his phone with his Tesla on Autopilot on Friday when he crashed into Jeffrey Nissen, killing him.

Jonathan Tall

• Monday, April 22, 2024 2:44pm

MALTBY — A Tesla driver who had set his car on Autopilot was “distracted” by his phone before reportedly hitting and killinga motorcyclist Friday on Highway 522, according to a new police report.

Around 3:45 p.m., a Snohomish man in a 2022 Tesla Model S was driving home behind a motorcyclist at Fales Road in Maltby, according to the report.

The man, 56, had activated Tesla’s Autopilot feature. He was using his phone when he heard a bang as his car lurched forward and crashed into the motorcycle in front of him, troopers wrote.

The motorcyclist, Jeffrey Nissen, was ejected. The Tesla was lodged on top of him, police said.

The Tesla driver exited his car and called police. Nissen died at the scene. He was 28.

Using sobriety and drug recognition tests, authorities determined the driver was not impaired by drugs or alcohol, according to the report. Troopers arrested the Tesla driver for investigation of vehicular homicide while driving distracted.

Troopers wrote the driver’s inattention while his car was on Autopilot, “putting the trust in the machine to drive for him,” gave them probable cause to arrest the man. He was booked into the Snohomish County Jail.

Tesla’s Autopilot feature has come under regulatory and legal scrutiny. Since 2019, at least 17 people have been killed in crashes involving Teslas in Autopilot mode, The Washington Post reported in June.

The crash came a day before Tesla slashed the price of its Full Self-Driving software from $12,000 to $8,000.

The technology does not mean the car is autonomous. Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability are “intended for use with a fully attentive driver, who has their hands hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment,” according to the company’s website.

The man posted $100,000 bail and was released from jail Sunday night.

Jonathan Tall: 425-339-3486;jonathan.tall@heraldnet.com; Twitter: @snocojon.

 

So THATS why 522 was closed on Friday and traffic sucked going home. 

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11 minutes ago, NoName said:

do these people think stabbing videos are good for the platform, advertisers, normal users, etc?

[NoName 16351]

...this is why he fired the ad team?

"too generic"

look at this funny lady who liked it, then said it lacked the wow factor

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also, Musk in the last 30 days has 2000+ tweets! which are numbers only exceeded by these people

for comparison here are how many tweets the other accounts in the top 10 most followed (per social blade) have sent in the last 30 days

• Obama: 23
• CR7: 20
• Bieber: 0 (actually he deleted 4 in the last 30 days so he has -4)
• Rihanna: 11
• Katy Perry: 29
• Nardendra Modi (indian PM): 589
• Taylor Swift: 14
• Trump: 0
• Ariana Grande: 113

looking at the rest of the top 25 with a notable # of tweets

• NASA: 164
• youtube: 390
• Kim Kardashian: 39
• X: 51
• CNN: 192
• CNN Breaking News: 160
• NYT: 1813

NYT is #25 in followers.

so just to be clear, he has more tweets in the last 30 days than the #2-24 most followed accounts on his website...combined

all while, on paper, being the CEO of SpaceX, the CEO of Tesla and the CEO of Twitter.

i kind of love how this guy has gone from a misunderstood genius to someone who is going to be a case study for how not to run a business, any business. terrible rebrands, terrible business decisions DAILY, fumbling a years long lead on EVs, waiving due diligence, firing off dumb lawsuits, major course changes within days/weeks/months of making the decision, horrible executive hiring practices, etc

what a fucking moron.

 

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9 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Seems like Elon will not be vacationing down under anytime soon. Funny, a South African known to control what his people can say, complaining about censorship.

SYDNEY, April 23 (Reuters) - Elon Musk lashed out at Australia's prime minister on Tuesday after a court ordered his social media company X to take down footage of an alleged terrorist attack in Sydney, and said the ruling meant any country could control "the entire internet".

At a hearing overnight, Australia's Federal Court ordered X, formerly called Twitter, to temporarily hide posts showing video of the incident a week earlier, in which a teenager was charged with terrorism for knifing an Assyrian priest and others.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/australia-pm-calls-musk-arrogant-billionaire-after-court-orders-x-hide-church-2024-04-23/

Elon: go ask the prime minister 

 

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

When your testing products on the public, a few innocent people will have to die. 

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9 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

@NoNamewho is CR7?

Lionel Messi’s son.  

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13 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

@NoNamewho is CR7?

Christiano Ronaldo

 

Edited April 23 by Pato del Muerto