Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

Goredho · April 24

Guys, he's going to revolutionize cloud computing with his intardnet of shitty things. What could possibly go wrong with the world's first completely decentralized and fully mobile data center?

https://www.theverge.com/24139142/elon-musk-tesla-aws-distributed-compute-network-ai

Elon Musk wants to turn Tesla’s fleet into AWS for AI — would it work?

Musk, who loves to riff on earnings calls, compared the unused compute power of millions of idle Tesla vehicles to Amazon’s cloud service business. If they’re just sitting there, he mused, why not put them to good use to run AI models? (Also, have you ever really looked at your hands? No, I mean really looked?)

“There’s a potential... when the car is not moving to actually run distributed inference,” Musk said. “If you imagine the future perhaps where there’s a fleet of 100 million Teslas and on average, they’ve got like maybe a kilowatt of inference compute. That’s 100 gigawatts of inference compute, distributed all around the world.”

So, to summarize, you buy a Tesla. It’s your property. But Musk wants to freely use the unused compute power in your vehicle for... something? Possibly AI-related? Hopefully not the blockchain. (Tesla is an AI company now, by the way. Musk said so himself during the call.)

texasdago · April 24

To be honest... they all suck but wrapping them hides a little bit of the suck so, regardless of the color, the wrap is an improvement

F250 · April 24

1 hour ago, Upgrayedd said:

Saw my first one in the wild yesterday. Del Mar.

SydneyCarton · April 24

6 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Guys, he's going to revolutionize cloud computing with his intardnet of shitty things. What could possibly go wrong with the world's first completely decentralized and fully mobile data center?

https://www.theverge.com/24139142/elon-musk-tesla-aws-distributed-compute-network-ai

Elon Musk wants to turn Tesla’s fleet into AWS for AI — would it work?

Musk, who loves to riff on earnings calls, compared the unused compute power of millions of idle Tesla vehicles to Amazon’s cloud service business. If they’re just sitting there, he mused, why not put them to good use to run AI models? (Also, have you ever really looked at your hands? No, I mean really looked?)

“There’s a potential... when the car is not moving to actually run distributed inference,” Musk said. “If you imagine the future perhaps where there’s a fleet of 100 million Teslas and on average, they’ve got like maybe a kilowatt of inference compute. That’s 100 gigawatts of inference compute, distributed all around the world.”

So, to summarize, you buy a Tesla. It’s your property. But Musk wants to freely use the unused compute power in your vehicle for... something? Possibly AI-related? Hopefully not the blockchain. (Tesla is an AI company now, by the way. Musk said so himself during the call.)

I honestly can't believe this guy is on an earnings call citing plot points from fucking Silicon Valley.

Francisco 2.0 · April 24

1 hour ago, Upgrayedd said:

Saw my first one in the wild yesterday. Del Mar.

One of the reasons these chucklefucks bought the damn thing is it was made of stainless; it looked cool and shit. Like nothing else on the road!

Then some of them promptly decide to cover the thing in a giant sticker.

Prepuce of Doom · April 24

They're gullible morons with too much discretionary cash, Frank.

BrickHorn · April 24

26 minutes ago, Goredho said:

“There’s a potential... when the car is not moving to actually run distributed inference,” Musk said. “If you imagine the future perhaps where there’s a fleet of 100 million Teslas and on average, they’ve got like maybe a kilowatt of inference compute. That’s 100 gigawatts of inference compute, distributed all around the world.”

I’m still trying to figure out what Musk is claiming here. Maybe it makes sense to CS/CE types. But it seems like he’s muddling power and computational capacity. In other words, that’s just fancy technobabble to say “Our cars have a battery and a computer and we can use those when they’re not being driven.”

Captain Ron · April 24

15 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Musk will say anything to pump the stock.

This. Earnings were shit for the 3rd straight quarter, so what does he do? Promises the moon.

And some fools eat it up, so we see a 10% bump today on ... nothing.

Captainant · April 24

45 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Guys, he's going to revolutionize cloud computing with his intardnet of shitty things. What could possibly go wrong with the world's first completely decentralized and fully mobile data center?

https://www.theverge.com/24139142/elon-musk-tesla-aws-distributed-compute-network-ai

Elon Musk wants to turn Tesla’s fleet into AWS for AI — would it work?

Musk, who loves to riff on earnings calls, compared the unused compute power of millions of idle Tesla vehicles to Amazon’s cloud service business. If they’re just sitting there, he mused, why not put them to good use to run AI models? (Also, have you ever really looked at your hands? No, I mean really looked?)

“There’s a potential... when the car is not moving to actually run distributed inference,” Musk said. “If you imagine the future perhaps where there’s a fleet of 100 million Teslas and on average, they’ve got like maybe a kilowatt of inference compute. That’s 100 gigawatts of inference compute, distributed all around the world.”

So, to summarize, you buy a Tesla. It’s your property. But Musk wants to freely use the unused compute power in your vehicle for... something? Possibly AI-related? Hopefully not the blockchain. (Tesla is an AI company now, by the way. Musk said so himself during the call.)

16 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I’m still trying to figure out what Musk is claiming here. Maybe it makes sense to CS/CE types. But it seems like he’s muddling power and computational capacity. In other words, that’s just fancy technobabble to say “Our cars have a battery and a computer and we can use those when they’re not being driven.”

Yeah this reads as technobabble hoping to trick investors into jumping onto a thing that's just an idea. Edge compute is nothing new. Your cell phone or laptop is gonna be significantly more capable in general compute tasks than your car.

But yes, Tesla's have a big ass battery integrated into their chassis. You could use that to power compute infrastructure. But that's not some groundbreaking innovation

Celery Man · April 24

it also takes it a step further from... you can purchase a Tesla and own the car, and it has capabilities that you cannot access without paying to have them unlocked (like range). I know that that was a story a few years back and I assume it's the case now. You can own the car without being able to use the whole car because features are software locked. But this idea is that you can own the car but Tesla could just reach in and take your spare cycles to what, create the worlds most powerful racist AI using a mobile cloud of other people's vehicles? FSD crashed your Tesla into a building because Grok was thinking really hard about a new slur?

Brisketexan · April 24

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

I’m still trying to figure out what Musk is claiming here. Maybe it makes sense to CS/CE types. But it seems like he’s muddling power and computational capacity. In other words, that’s just fancy technobabble to say “Our cars have a battery and a computer and we can use those when they’re not being driven.”

But, I mean, as a possible Tesla customer, what's not to love?!?!

My car will be running its computer - and I'm presuming that in order to link up with other computers to share data and amp up the total computing power being used, it will hop onto my home wifi - which eats up the bandwidth on my wifi that I pay for. It will be using some of its battery life not for my tasks (you know....driving the car), but rather to work for Elmo's dream. Oh, and it will be burning power that I paid for (it's plugged into my wall charger, which provides electricity that I pay for) to do Elmo's work for him.

Yes sir, please sir, can you use and abuse me some more?? THAN YOU, SIR!!!

texasdago · April 24

1 minute ago, Celery Man said:

it also takes it a step further from... you can purchase a Tesla and own the car, and it has capabilities that you cannot access without paying to have them unlocked (like range). I know that that was a story a few years back and I assume it's the case now. You can own the car without being able to use the whole car because features are software locked. But this idea is that you can own the car but Tesla could just reach in and take your spare cycles to what, create the worlds most powerful racist AI using a mobile cloud of other people's vehicles? FSD crashed your Tesla into a building because Grok was thinking really hard about a new slur?

So, kind of like... hey, your car's mileage is 25 mpg but, guess what, for a low monthly fee of $60/month or whatever, we'll up that to 33 mpg. Seriously? WTF.

Brisketexan · April 24

5 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

it also takes it a step further from... you can purchase a Tesla and own the car, and it has capabilities that you cannot access without paying to have them unlocked (like range). I know that that was a story a few years back and I assume it's the case now. You can own the car without being able to use the whole car because features are software locked. But this idea is that you can own the car but Tesla could just reach in and take your spare cycles to what, create the worlds most powerful racist AI using a mobile cloud of other people's vehicles? FSD crashed your Tesla into a building because Grok was thinking really hard about a new slur?

3 minutes ago, texasdago said:

So, kind of like... hey, your car's mileage is 25 mpg but, guess what, for a low monthly fee of $60/month or whatever, we'll up that to 33 mpg. Seriously? WTF.

The term y'all are looking for is "enshittening." Enshittening is a religion now, and Elon is its diety.

F250 · April 24

57 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Maybe it makes sense to CS/CE types.

This makes absolutely no sense and is nothing like what lead to AWS. Elon is just talking out of his asshole.

BrickHorn · April 24

Just now, F250 said:

This makes absolutely no sense and is nothing like what lead to AWS. Elon is just talking out of his asshole.

Yeah I’m not talking about the practicality of the overall concept which, as I understand it, is to use idling EVs to provide computational capacity for AI. I'm asking specifically about the terminology he used. “Kilowatts” does not seem like an appropriate unit for computational capacity. Seems like that should be expressed in flops. But I’m not a computer engineer.

wood · April 24

4 hours ago, choripan said:

Fair. Taken last summer/fall.

1.

I love Barcelona.

wood · April 24

1 hour ago, texasdago said:

To be honest... they all suck but wrapping them hides a little bit of the suck so, regardless of the color, the wrap is an improvement

The wrap guys must love Cybertruck owners. They all look the same, so most of the owners will want a wrap. They'll pay a lot for it, and it's the easiest wrap job ever.

BrickHorn · April 24

4 minutes ago, wood said:

1.

User name checks out.

wood · April 24

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

One of the reasons these chucklefucks bought the damn thing is it was made of stainless; it looked cool and shit. Like nothing else on the road!

Then some of them promptly decide to cover the thing in a giant sticker.

That's 'cause after they buy it they realize stainless steel looks like shit on cars.

F250 · April 24

4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Yeah I’m not talking about the practicality of the overall concept which, as I understand it, is to use idling EVs to provide computational capacity for AI. I'm asking specifically about the terminology he used. “Kilowatts” does not seem like an appropriate unit for computational capacity. Seems like that should be expressed in flops. But I’m not a computer engineer.

Yeah, in terms of DC resources it would make sense but that's not what he is inferring in his statement. But this is a very common theme with Elon. He often says things that sound like he doesn't really understand the topic and is just repeating what he heard someone else say. Which makes sense because he is a bullshit artist.

What really bugs me about this is not that he bullshits so much but the media always treats his commentary as something worthy of reporting.

If someone like that quack Stang talks about his theory of everything people rightfully laugh and mock him. When Elon does it people take him seriously.

Rimbo · April 24

24 minutes ago, F250 said:

This makes absolutely no sense and is nothing like what lead to AWS. Elon is just talking out of his asshole.

it's more CTE than CSE

Brisketexan · April 24

9 minutes ago, F250 said:

When Elon does it people take him seriously.

With all due respect, good sir, I think that very, very few people on this site take Elon seriously. About anything.

Ted Lange · April 24

1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

it also takes it a step further from... you can purchase a Tesla and own the car, and it has capabilities that you cannot access without paying to have them unlocked (like range). I know that that was a story a few years back and I assume it's the case now. You can own the car without being able to use the whole car because features are software locked.

So Teslas are basically Clash of Clans, but a car? Or any of those other "free game apps" that you download but to actually do anything you have to start making in app purchases.

cactusflinthead · April 24

BrickHorn · April 24

Yikes.

Edited April 24 by BrickHorn

Brisketexan · April 24

1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

Yikes.

WTF are we even looking at there, other than the official Pantone sample for "blinding white?"

Goredho · April 24

I think we're looking at Mike Myers, who has really let himself go and is in the process of mutating to become Michael Myers.

MAUFRAIS · April 24

Trunks look like a licorice fruit roll up

locodos · April 24

Cybertruck is growing on me a little bit

Spoiler

NAVY · April 24

11 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Are those cyber shorts?

Captainant · April 24

15 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

ya know, if you turn that picture on its side and put wheels on elmo's back, he's almost shaped like a cybertruck

ConferenceRoom · April 24

15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

WTF are we even looking at there, other than the official Pantone sample for "blinding white?"

atomheartbevo · April 24

2 hours ago, F250 said:

Yeah, in terms of DC resources it would make sense but that's not what he is inferring in his statement. But this is a very common theme with Elon. He often says things that sound like he doesn't really understand the topic and is just repeating what he heard someone else say. Which makes sense because he is a bullshit artist.

Yep, completely something he read on Twitter and is flailing around to try and distract from the numbers that came out.

There is a possibility he knows it’s bullshit and is trying to distract from the numbers. Especially with that “imagine 100 million Teslas sitting there with all that computing power” crap or whatever. But I lean towards him reading something on Twitter. Sucks to be the Tesla engineers, or Twitter engineers who get yelled at to make it happen.

MrBig · April 24

48 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

HenryJames · April 24

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

He looks like if Christopher Hitchens drowned and his body wasn’t discovered for a week.

Chooky · April 24

Dang.

BearMace · April 24

What the fuck are we looking at? Is this twisted AI? I can't even make sense of those shorts and what the fuck has to be wrong with you to have that fucked up distended gut to that extent? Taking tons of roads but not doing any of the working out?

Deej · April 24

1 hour ago, cactusflinthead said:

He's looks like Alex Jones without the beard.

Deej · April 24

1 hour ago, MAUFRAIS said:

Trunks look like a licorice fruit roll up

I think that's a towel.

Fudge Nuggets · April 24

5 hours ago, Captainant said:

Your cell phone or laptop is gonna be significantly more capable in general compute tasks than your car.

Not if your car is hardcore, nerd.

atomheartbevo · April 24

32 minutes ago, Deej said:

He's looks like Alex Jones without the beard.

Now he just needs to move to Terlingua with Jones to finish ruining it.

BearMace · April 24

1 minute ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Not if your car is hardcore, nerd.

The Xphone Phive is going to be so hardcore bro! You'll login with your blue check credentials so you know it's super secure and totes legit. Battery life will be shit because they're going to use it to mine Bitcoin and train Gronk AI, but that's price you pay to be Xtreme.

Brisketexan · April 24

10 minutes ago, BearMace said:

The Xphone Phive is going to be so hardcore bro! You'll login with your blue check credentials so you know it's super secure and totes legit. Battery life will be shit because they're going to use it to mine Bitcoin and train Gronk AI, but that's price you pay to be Xtreme.

Bookmarking this, because I'm certain that at least 75% of it will turn out to be an accurate prediction of our shittacular future.

Celery Man · April 24

1 hour ago, Deej said:

I think that's a towel.

Technically it’s a “bath sheet”.

Sawbonz · April 25

1 hour ago, Deej said:

I think that's a towel.

Sealskin wrap

Chooky · April 25

MrBig · April 25

Dustin Moskovitz, one of the co-founders of Facebook, posted on Threads that he believes Tesla is committing Enron level fraud.

HenryJames · April 25

3 hours ago, MrBig said:

Dustin Moskovitz, one of the co-founders of Facebook, posted on Threads that he believes Tesla is committing Enron level fraud.

NoName · April 25

19 hours ago, Goredho said:

Guys, he's going to revolutionize cloud computing with his intardnet of shitty things. What could possibly go wrong with the world's first completely decentralized and fully mobile data center?

https://www.theverge.com/24139142/elon-musk-tesla-aws-distributed-compute-network-ai

Elon Musk wants to turn Tesla’s fleet into AWS for AI — would it work?

Musk, who loves to riff on earnings calls, compared the unused compute power of millions of idle Tesla vehicles to Amazon’s cloud service business. If they’re just sitting there, he mused, why not put them to good use to run AI models? (Also, have you ever really looked at your hands? No, I mean really looked?)

“There’s a potential... when the car is not moving to actually run distributed inference,” Musk said. “If you imagine the future perhaps where there’s a fleet of 100 million Teslas and on average, they’ve got like maybe a kilowatt of inference compute. That’s 100 gigawatts of inference compute, distributed all around the world.”

So, to summarize, you buy a Tesla. It’s your property. But Musk wants to freely use the unused compute power in your vehicle for... something? Possibly AI-related? Hopefully not the blockchain. (Tesla is an AI company now, by the way. Musk said so himself during the call.)

lol

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NoName · April 25

19 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

One of the reasons these chucklefucks bought the damn thing is it was made of stainless; it looked cool and shit. Like nothing else on the road!

Then some of them promptly decide to cover the thing in a giant sticker.

its because everything outside stains the steel because they used shitty (cheap) steel.

no kidding here - basically any road gunk, bugs, bird poop, rain, anything.

but no fear, you too can use this magic product to clean your $100k car!

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