Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Frank Drebin 5654]

Elon Musk is a great American.  The Benjamin Franklin of our time.  

[Captain Ron 12862]

LOL

 

And Quoting just because this shouldn't be the last post of a page

19 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Those of your still on X ...

First off WHY?

 

But second, understand the new changes coming up in the TOS:

https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-seeks-steer-lawsuits-conservative-court-texas-2024-10-17/

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/21/tech/x-twitter-terms-of-service/index.html

 

This is the updated TOS: https://x.com/en/tos

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Those of your still on X ...

First off WHY?

That’s changing. I’m seeing a bit of a snowball effect towards BlueSky and to a lesser extent Threads.

[Bozo_Casanova 26432]

 

 

 

 

Edited November 11 by Bozo_Casanova

[atomheartbevo 89618]

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

That’s changing. I’m seeing a bit of a snowball effect towards BlueSky and to a lesser extent Threads.

By snowball, I meant avalanche.  Bunch of writers and journalists are fleeing shitter. Not sure if they are doing it as a fuck you to Leon wanting their content for his AI or what.

[BurntEyes 5956]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

By snowball, I meant avalanche.  Bunch of writers and journalists are fleeing shitter. Not sure if they are doing it as a fuck you to Leon wanting their content for his AI or what.

I honestly wonder why they waited so long.

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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

I honestly wonder why they waited so long.

Because Leon is no longer hiding his plans about their content?  None of them want their work showing up in his AI.

[Chopper 17228]

On 11/7/2024 at 9:15 PM, Hornius Emeritus said:

I've lost almost 500 followers on X since the election. On the other hand, I've gained about 140 on Threads and 45-50 on Blue Sky, so it's not a total loss.

Our social media will become even more bifurcated, I'm thinking.

Threads is gaining a huge number of new followers every day. Zuckerburg indicated roughly one million per day in his conference call. Now up to 275 million.  I wish it would gain some of X's functionality.

 

Have you made your bluesky account username public info here? Also @atomheartbevo

Also for anyone at bluesky, if you're not aware of starter packs, they're basically a must know to build your account. If you want to get a lot of followers, find the admin of any list and ask them to add you. If you want to find people to follow, search the starter packs for users that others have recommended grouped under certain expertise and/or content. Starter pack subjects can be extremely micro. It's a feature that's a bit like what twitter had with "law twitter" or "immunology twitter" except more organized. 

There's over 5,000 starter packs https://blueskydirectory.com/starter-packs/all

Bluesky doesn't have a central algorithm, so you have to follow a lot more accounts to get an active timeline...like 600 +/- 100

It also has "feeds," and you can get added to those or just use them to find people to follow. Feeds can be pinned to your home page a bit like a bookmark within the bluesky site to switch what content you see.

[atomheartbevo 89618]

11 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Have you made your bluesky account username public info here? Also @atomheartbevo

I’m not going to dox myself.

11 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Also for anyone at bluesky, if you're not aware of starter packs, they're basically a must know to build your account. If you want to get a lot of followers, find the admin of any list and ask them to add you. If you want to find people to follow, search the starter packs for users that others have recommended grouped under certain expertise and/or content. Starter pack subjects can be extremely micro. It's a feature that's a bit like what twitter had with "law twitter" or "immunology twitter" except more organized. 

There's over 5,000 starter packs https://blueskydirectory.com/starter-packs/all

Yep, I tripled my followers this morning with two starter packs, and it’s people I want following me, that I want to interact with.

I found some Ukrainian groups/starter packs that easily replace my Twitter stuff (mainly because it’s OSINT people moving to Twitter).

I really had not dived too deeply into BlueSky, but this week is off to a helluva start. I see that they’ve picked up over 650,000 new subscribers in the past two days, and it’s active enough to keep them.

[Fudge Nuggets 19184]

Buncha dorks.

[Schulz2.0 28951]

[Braff Zacklin 13552]

It's obviously Kuato.

[Brisketexan 105046]

2 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

It's obviously Kuato.

Dude.....my kingdom for the wisdom and leadership of Kuato.

Or....as it all burns, at lease give us gals with three boobs.

I DEMAND TO BE ENTERTAINED.

[Captain Ron 12862]

21 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

15 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

It's obviously Kuato.

 

11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Dude.....my kingdom for the wisdom and leadership of Kuato.

Or....as it all burns, at lease give us gals with three boobs.

I DEMAND TO BE ENTERTAINED.

Mars makes a lot more sense now 

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

[Hornius Emeritus 12449]

5 hours ago, Chopper said:

 

Have you made your bluesky account username public info here? Also @atomheartbevo

Also for anyone at bluesky, if you're not aware of starter packs, they're basically a must know to build your account. If you want to get a lot of followers, find the admin of any list and ask them to add you. If you want to find people to follow, search the starter packs for users that others have recommended grouped under certain expertise and/or content. Starter pack subjects can be extremely micro. It's a feature that's a bit like what twitter had with "law twitter" or "immunology twitter" except more organized. 

There's over 5,000 starter packs https://blueskydirectory.com/starter-packs/all

Bluesky doesn't have a central algorithm, so you have to follow a lot more accounts to get an active timeline...like 600 +/- 100

It also has "feeds," and you can get added to those or just use them to find people to follow. Feeds can be pinned to your home page a bit like a bookmark within the bluesky site to switch what content you see.

Thanks so much for this. I've added about two hundred followers on Blue Sky in the last two days and I get the feeling that it's beginning to wake up.

[atomheartbevo 89618]

53 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Thanks so much for this. I've added about two hundred followers on Blue Sky in the last two days and I get the feeling that it's beginning to wake up.

Between the curated feeds and the starter packs, it’s really easy to transition over to BlueSky.

Edited November 11 by atomheartbevo

[bolverk 29646]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Between the curated feeds and the starter packs, it’s really easy to transition over to BlueSky.

Yep. I've had accounts with both for a while. Threads has been a disappointment. I've always liked Blue Sky's more free-wheeling vibe, but there was just so little traffic for so long. Those starter packs are a real game-changer for getting ramped up and immediately finding lots of bespoke content. 

Edited November 12 by bolverk
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[safe sex 11696]

BlueSky embeds when?

[Anastasis 23454]

Body shape and size characteristics common to autism, imo. 

[Brisketexan 105046]

Just now, Anastasis said:

Body shape and size characteristics common to autism, imo being a total fucking asshole. 

Let's not disparage others on the spectrum by too much association here.  Sure, he's on the spectrum.  But his problem is that he's a giant fucking narcissist asshole.

[Anastasis 23454]

Just now, Brisketexan said:

Let's not disparage others on the spectrum by too much association here.  Sure, he's on the spectrum.  But his problem is that he's a giant fucking narcissist asshole.

I am not aware of consistent body size and shape characteristics associated with npd. ASD on the other hand is associated with obesity and certain body size/shape  presentations. I am not disparaging anyone with those comments, which are far more benign than the comments on this thread that pull on those strings. 

[BearMace 2191]

I prefer my theory that it's from taking a bunch of steroids/hgh but not actually working out. Please, please don't make him sympathetic.

[Anastasis 23454]

12 minutes ago, BearMace said:

I prefer my theory that it's from taking a bunch of steroids/hgh but not actually working out. Please, please don't make him sympathetic.

ketamine nasally administered imo. 

But there are a few posters here that would probably benefit from adjusting their stack. 

[atomheartbevo 89618]

23 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i have my first.last twitter id that i've never used - i got it to make sure no one else could have it

never signed up for any other social at all none zero zip zilch nada

Log in once in a while - they've said at some point they are going to release inactive accounts back into the pool of unused handles.

It's why I'm not deleting my accounts, just my tweets, and moving future stuff over to Bluesy, although if enough people are doing it, he may get mad and take the handles of anybody who bails for Bluesky or Threads.

[Schulz2.0 28951]

[atomheartbevo 89618]

1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

Those pictures from that outing will never get old

[NoName 16349]

 

[atomheartbevo 89618]

DOGE

Leon deliberately picked the title to be DOGE.

Because he’s 12 and Tesla car models are S,3,X,Y

[KYHorn 17004]

 

[AnTiM 1666]

Got my first close look at a Tesla yesterday.  I swear an Armored Personnel Carrier has a far better appearance.

[elfenix 34221]

On 11/11/2024 at 1:15 PM, Schulz2.0 said:

he wears black tshirts to hide his fat belly just like me!

[Bateshorn 9927]

lol, every president has a government efficiency commission. It’s a classic make work job. 
 

They gave him a can of play dough and a juice box and that dipshit doesn’t even realize it.

[NoName 16349]

[Brisketexan 105046]

27 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

lol, every president has a government efficiency commission. It’s a classic make work job. 
 

They gave him a can of play dough and a juice box and that dipshit doesn’t even realize it.

But in this case, you fail to understand how suggestable and malleable the DOTUS is.  Elmo will submit a plan to eliminate all EV subsidies....except for companies that rhyme with "Messla."  And a plan to privatize all functions of NASA, with the preferred bidder being any space launch company with a launch facility near the Texas-Mexico border.  Etc.

It's.  All.  Grift.  All of it.  

[wildcat09 29338]

Elon is getting kicked out of there and probably deported by March, when Trump gets enraged by all the “Elon shadow president?” stories.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13507]

2 hours ago, NoName said:

I will bet anyone here that he will start having DOGE surveys on X: "Who thinks we should cut _____ dept and their 100 employees?" 

Edited November 13 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Annie_Tobak 130]

2 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

lol, every president has a government efficiency commission. It’s a classic make work job. 
 

They gave him a can of play dough and a juice box and that dipshit doesn’t even realize it.

Serious question, then knowing this:

Why do most D's have such a kneejerk response to this if it's a nothing-burger? They just want to gripe about everything now that they've lost?

Let's pretend that this isn't a do-nothing job-- why are people outside the beltway concerned about career politicians and bureaucrats having their honeypots taken away, in the interest of tax paying Americana?

I get that the risk is that some things are cut too deep or haphazardly, but just assuming the government will crumble without a bunch of middle-men and women running around with funded pensions and inflated salaries seems like a very big reach.

I say all that to say, I'm in favor of austerity (generally) and government efficiency (generally) and rolling back the IRS hiring from last year or so (specifically) so you know my position before responding.

[Brisketexan 105046]

5 minutes ago, Annie_Tobak said:

I'm in favor of austerity (generally)

Of course you are.

Because pretty close to 100% of the time, "austerity" means "slash anything that benefits the middle and lower classes....but protect every cushy mechanism that benefits the rich/oligarchs."  Time, and time, and time again -- here and everywhere else -- that's how it goes.

An oligarch - a literal oligarch - who is the beneficiary of numerous government programs, payments, grants, and policies - is being put in charge of "government efficiency."  There are only two possible ways it goes: 1) it goes nowhere, and is a total clown show, or 2) it provides massive benefits to the oligarch class, and nothing but harm to everyone else.

[Annie_Tobak 130]

5 hours ago, AnTiM said:

Got my first close look at a Tesla yesterday.  I swear an Armored Personnel Carrier has a far better appearance.

There was a cyber truck for like $92k I saw listed near me. I had a good year, thought of buying it, but my wife would be mad.

My opinion: Cyber trucks are like the Audemars Piguet of vehicles. Sure they are ugly and ridiculous, but they are uniquely ugly and ridiculous, and that actually IS it's virtue. IYKYK.

[royiv 9244]

5 minutes ago, Annie_Tobak said:

Serious question, then knowing this:

Why do most D's have such a kneejerk response to this if it's a nothing-burger? They just want to gripe about everything now that they've lost?

Let's pretend that this isn't a do-nothing job-- why are people outside the beltway concerned about career politicians and bureaucrats having their honeypots taken away, in the interest of tax paying Americana?

I get that the risk is that some things are cut too deep or haphazardly, but just assuming the government will crumble without a bunch of middle-men and women running around with funded pensions and inflated salaries seems like a very big reach.

I say all that to say, I'm in favor of austerity (generally) and government efficiency (generally) and rolling back the IRS hiring from last year or so (specifically) so you know my position before responding.

Because the person who has built an immense fortune largely due to government subsidies, EV tax credits and government contracts should not be put in any position inside the government that even has the potential or perception of being able influence government spending. It is a gigantic conflict of interest that undermines public trust in our government. 

[Annie_Tobak 130]

4 minutes ago, royiv said:

Because the person who has built an immense fortune largely due to government subsidies, EV tax credits and government contracts should not be put in any position inside the government that even has the potential or perception of being able influence government spending. It is a gigantic conflict of interest that undermines public trust in our government. 

So it's not really the idea or concept of a Government Efficiency and rationalization project, it's the personality that was put in charge of it (I guess, hence the response in this thread versus a CR response).

Makes sense-- I personally don't mind the cronyism (politics 101) but can understand how it can be seen as bad optics.

To that I say fine, just give full CEO control to Vivek Ramaswamy. Would you have a problem then?

Edited November 13 by Annie_Tobak

[Brisketexan 105046]

8 minutes ago, Annie_Tobak said:

So it's not really the idea or concept of a Government Efficiency and rationalization project, it's the personality that was put in charge of it (I guess, hence the response in this thread versus a CR response).

Makes sense-- I personally don't mind the cronyism (politics 101) but can understand how it can be seen as bad optics.

To that I say fine, just give full CEO control to Vivek Ramaswamy. Would you have a problem then?

Of course.  Because there is a near 100% chance that it becomes - like all such projects, but ESPECIALLY one under an entirely transactional regime - a project of "make shit super hard for the poor and middle class, make things lucrative and gravy for the rich, ESPECIALLY the rich/enterprises that have enough resources to ingratiate themselves with the regime."

TLDR; Those with money and power will miraculously come out AHEAD in such efforts, those without money and power will inevitably find themselves fucked by such efforts.  You know that's exactly how it will go.

[Annie_Tobak 130]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Of course.  Because there is a near 100% chance that it becomes - like all such projects, but ESPECIALLY one under an entirely transactional regime - a project of "make shit super hard for the poor and middle class, make things lucrative and gravy for the rich, ESPECIALLY the rich/enterprises that have enough resources to ingratiate themselves with the regime."

TLDR; Those with money and power will miraculously come out AHEAD in such efforts, those without money and power will inevitably find themselves fucked by such efforts.  You know that's exactly how it will go.

Wait, weren't you the one who was vomiting all over threads a couple days ago about how "I'mma JUST look out for ME! It's OVER. No more helping anyone, just focus on ME! You are an IDIOT if you care about helping anyone! I was a fool, don't be me, learn from my mistakes! Me me Me Me Me...." to paraphrase? 

I don't fundamentally agree that it makes things harder for poor/middle class as you think is the inevitability, but since you do believe it-- seems like someone like you with the self-professed selfishness would be in favor of this and want something transactional that benefits you.

Edited November 13 by Annie_Tobak

[Brisketexan 105046]

Just now, Annie_Tobak said:

Wait, weren't you the one who was vomiting all over threads a couple days ago about how "I'mma JUST look out for ME! It's OVER. No more helping anyone, just focus on ME! You are an IDIOT if you care about helping anyone! I was a fool, don't be me, learn from my mistakes! Me me Me Me Me...." to paraphrase? 

I don't fundamentally agree that it makes things harder for poor/middle class as you think is the inevitability, but since you do believe it-- seems like someone like you  with the self-professed selfishness would be in favor of this and want something transactional that benefits you.

Oh, I'll play it to my advantage.  I'm not stupid, I'm as cynical as they come. 

I'm just not so dishonest/stupid as to pretend this will be anything but that.  IDGAF whether you "fundamentally agree" that will be the outcome.  Repeated history tells us what it will be, and PARTICULARLY under a regime that stands for crony capitalism more boldly than any regime in American history.

[Guadaloopy 10954]

3 minutes ago, Annie_Tobak said:

Wait, weren't you the one who was vomiting all over threads a couple days ago about how "I'mma JUST look out for ME! It's OVER. No more helping anyone, just focus on ME! You are an IDIOT if you care about helping anyone! I was a fool, don't be me, learn from my mistakes! Me me Me Me Me...." to paraphrase? 

I don't fundamentally agree that it makes things harder for poor/middle class as you think is the inevitability, but since you do believe it-- seems like someone like you with the self-professed selfishness would be in favor of this and want something transactional that benefits you.

Why the fuck do you keep coming back?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13507]

28 minutes ago, Annie_Tobak said:

\To that I say fine, just give full CEO control to Vivek Ramaswamy. Would you have a problem then?

you mean the guy who's failing pharamaceutical firm is waiting on FDA approval on drugs that have proven time and time again to fail? No, he shouldn't have any say in weeding out inefficiencies in govt. He has zero experience in that.

[Bateshorn 9927]

1 hour ago, Annie_Tobak said:

Serious question, then knowing this:

Why do most D's have such a kneejerk response to this if it's a nothing-burger? They just want to gripe about everything now that they've lost?

Let's pretend that this isn't a do-nothing job-- why are people outside the beltway concerned about career politicians and bureaucrats having their honeypots taken away, in the interest of tax paying Americana?

I get that the risk is that some things are cut too deep or haphazardly, but just assuming the government will crumble without a bunch of middle-men and women running around with funded pensions and inflated salaries seems like a very big reach.

I say all that to say, I'm in favor of austerity (generally) and government efficiency (generally) and rolling back the IRS hiring from last year or so (specifically) so you know my position before responding.

A lot of the chattering class gets paid to gin up progressives.  So yes, there’s an element of bitch and moan. 
 

The bigger issue is that most Americans don’t really understand what we spend most of our tax and borrowed money on. It’s easy to think that a bunch of shiftless bureaucrats are wasting trillions fucking around online. But the truth is I could eliminate literally every federal department except DOD, VA, Social Security, and Medicare, and you’d still run a deficit in the hundreds of billions of dollars. And that’s assuming I could get away with slashing billions in Ag subsidies. Which we know isn’t going to happen.

the part of the government that everyone hates, the Walter Peck government, just isn’t they much money. It’s like trying to balance your budget by eliminating beer. 

[Firemans4Horn 18034]

3 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

A lot of the chattering class gets paid to gin up progressives.  So yes, there’s an element of bitch and moan. 
 

The bigger issue is that most Americans don’t really understand what we spend most of our tax and borrowed money on. It’s easy to think that a bunch of shiftless bureaucrats are wasting trillions fucking around online. But the truth is I could eliminate literally every federal department except DOD, VA, Social Security, and Medicare, and you’d still run a deficit in the hundreds of billions of dollars. And that’s assuming I could get away with slashing billions in Ag subsidies. Which we know isn’t going to happen.

the part of the government that everyone hates, the Walter Peck government, just isn’t they much money. It’s like trying to balance your budget by eliminating beer. 

 

[Chopper 17228]

The White House has an Office of Management and Budget whose purpose is to put together the annual budget proposal for Congress. Creation of an entire new government department for the supposed purpose of "government efficiency" is duplicative of the work of OMB. It's the stuff of idiots. Take a look at Dan Quayle's former Council on Competitiveness, to which he was appointed by Bush and which became the point of entry for corporations to give a donation to the Party in order to receive a slice of the government pie. It's the actions of corrupt communist cunts. They're not looking at how to make the government more efficient; they're looking at how to rig the game in their own favor.