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Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?


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25 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Somewhat Putin-esque in the outcome.

Elon would benefit from a large glass of "be smart enough to know how dumb you are," but nope.....Elon is the world's leading expert on.....literally everything.  According to Elon, at least.

This is the real crux of the argument - most people learn to keep their mouth shut when they don't fully understand something. Elon loves to bump his gums when he really doesn't know shit. Hell, he talks loudest about the stuff he doesn't know at all.

Elon would be Stinger's worst nightmare with his mouth writing checks his body really can't cash.

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2 hours ago, NoName said:

Again. I think I'll listen to the actual experts and not some fucking guy who knows nothing about the program or jets. Be it Elon or Gaetz

Calling it a failed platform is absolutely, completely and spectacularly dumb.

Yeah the F35 is great at what it designed to do. Fuck Elon but he’s not entirely wrong (blind squirrel, whatever). If the US is going to win the war of the future, it won’t be with $100M manned jets with $50M unmanned wing men jets that all cost a small fortune every single time they’re used. Be real, what’s going to be more effective: a single F35 with a couple wingmen drones (NGAD) or 2,500+ purpose built UAVs? Our obsession with expensive hardware we simply cannot build quickly needs to end ASAP.

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Elon stans (pretending not to be Elon stans): no no what he means is that it’s not a perfect program and is too expensive!

Elon: what fucking stealth?! I can still see it! And it doesn’t even have grok installed!

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52 minutes ago, B00M said:

Yeah the F35 is great at what it designed to do. Fuck Elon but he’s not entirely wrong (blind squirrel, whatever). If the US is going to win the war of the future, it won’t be with $100M manned jets with $50M unmanned wing men jets that all cost a small fortune every single time they’re used. Be real, what’s going to be more effective: a single F35 with a couple wingmen drones (NGAD) or 2,500+ purpose built UAVs? Our obsession with expensive hardware we simply cannot build quickly needs to end ASAP.

In what world does "wars of the future" not involve nuclear stuff? 

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1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

In what world does "wars of the future" not involve nuclear stuff? 

Huh? The one we’re preparing for right now over Taiwan? The one that will occur in Europe if Ukraine falls. You know, the future we can see right in front of us that will be dominated by long range missiles, long range jammer-proof drones, unmanned expendable hardware instead of floating cities. $500 to $50,000 devices that have already rendered tanks and warships obsolete; already been used to overwhelm western air defenses. The most cost effective defense against them is ultimately going to be OTHER drones. $1B carriers, $100M jets, $10M tanks… the drone swarms required to destroy these assets will always cost orders of magnitude less than them making it financially foolish to keep building them. The ones the drones don’t destroy will be pushed so far from the front line that they’re far less effective or totally useless (see Russia’s Air Force, Black Sea fleet). 

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Chinese state media is worried about Bluesky because they can’t manipulate it like Elon’s Twitter. 
 

https://www.semafor.com/article/11/25/2024/bluesky-boom-worries-chinese-media

 

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Chinese state media is reportedly troubled by the latest exodus of X users flocking to Bluesky. State outlets, which put considerable resources into amassing millions of followers on Elon Musk’s social media platform — including by buying ads, deploying bots, and hiring influencers — have recently seen their growth plateau. 

The growing popularity of Bluesky, which has a largely liberal base and harder-to-manipulate algorithm, has sparked “worried chatter within Chinese state media circles,” a former Xinhua and China Daily employee wrote in his newsletter. He predicted the accounts will migrate to Bluesky, though it may take time. For now, the sector’s focus has shifted back to domestic, Mandarin-language channels and platforms like Bilibili, WeChat, and Douyin, the Chinese version of TikTok.

 

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1 hour ago, B00M said:

Huh? The one we’re preparing for right now over Taiwan? The one that will occur in Europe if Ukraine falls. You know, the future we can see right in front of us that will be dominated by long range missiles, long range jammer-proof drones, unmanned expendable hardware instead of floating cities. $500 to $50,000 devices that have already rendered tanks and warships obsolete; already been used to overwhelm western air defenses. The most cost effective defense against them is ultimately going to be OTHER drones. $1B carriers, $100M jets, $10M tanks… the drone swarms required to destroy these assets will always cost orders of magnitude less than them making it financially foolish to keep building them. The ones the drones don’t destroy will be pushed so far from the front line that they’re far less effective or totally useless (see Russia’s Air Force, Black Sea fleet). 

 Also, the VVS is terrifyingly effective in Ukraine right now, especially with glide bombs that are really similar to JDAMS.  Where Ukraine is having success, it’s thanks to high-end air-defense capabilities and not drones.  On the flip side, Ukraines lack of the type of long-range strike capabilities that the F-35 and other crewed aviation is a big reason why the battlefield looks like it does. 
 

TL; DR Elon is dumb on this. 

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Also, the VVS is terrifyingly effective in Ukraine right now, especially with glide bombs that are really similar to JDAMS.  Where Ukraine is having success, it’s thanks to high-end air-defense capabilities and not drones.  On the flip side, Ukraines lack of the type of long-range strike capabilities that the F-35 and other crewed aviation is a big reason why the battlefield looks like it does. 

Ukraine and Russia both struggle as well when the drones are jammed.  Israel sent fighters into Iran for a reason, and they had no problem with Russian air defenses.  We’ve been running drones since the first Gulf War (off the battleships as artillery spotters) and arguably since Vietnam, but drones as we think of them now, we’ve been running for a couple of decades, and we have some pretty amazing ones now and probably lots that’s not been seen publicly since we kept iterating on what we were using in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now it’s possible that Iran has old Russian stuff, but I doubt it’s that old.  There’s a reason why the Europeans are lining up to buy F-35s and even placing new orders, and why we are still investing in them, and still keeping our non-stealthy bomb trucks around.

There will be a point where we might feel secure enough in our comms or in an AI inside of a drone that’s been cut off due to jamming, using drones for what we currently use manned fighters for, but that time is not quite there yet.

And I say this as somebody who wondered on the old site when we were going to start building smaller and cheaper drone carriers instead of massive aircraft carriers.

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8 hours ago, Bevo said:

This is all true, except we don't know his conclusions, unless we are basing it on tweets rather than detailed discussions.  And personally, I think tweets suck and the idea behind tweets sucks.

Tweets are all he knows how to use these days.  I can only imagine what a meeting with him would be like.

KEEP YOUR ANSWERS TO LESS THAN 250 CHARACTERS OR I WILL FIRE YOU.  SHOW ME YOUR THREE BEST TWEETS IN THE MATTER.

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https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-he-owns-everyones-twitter-account-in-bizarre-alex-jones-court-filing-2000530503

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The people behind the Onion recently won InfoWars in an auction, sold as part of a legal judgment against Jones who was found guilty of defaming the families of teachers and students who were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012. The families won a $1.4 billion judgment against Jones and selling off InfoWars was part of the liquidation process for the conspiracy theorist’s assets in order to pay down that debt. But a company tied to Jones has challenged the validity of the Onion’s purchase. And X is trying to help stop the sale.

X’s legal filing on Monday, posted online by 404 Media, argues that all of the social media accounts in the auction can’t be transferred.

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“Put simply, accounts are inherently part of X Corp.’s Services and their ‘use,'” the company said in Monday’s court filing. “A user must use X Corp.’s Services to create an account in the first instance, and to continue using the account going forward.” X insists it wasn’t claiming ownership of the content in the accounts, and is only saying it controls the accounts themselves.

“While X Corp. takes no position as to the sale of any Content posted on the X Accounts, X Corp. is the sole owner of the Services being sold as part of the sale of the X Accounts,” the social media company wrote in its court filing. “While X Corp. has granted account holders, such as Jones and FSS, a license to use the Services, such license is non-assignable, both under the terms of the TOS and applicable non-bankruptcy law (i.e., as a personal services contract), and the Trustee cannot sell, assign, or otherwise transfer such license absent X Corp.’s consent.”

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As 404 Media notes, it’s pretty standard for social media accounts to be transferred to new companies when a brand is sold. And Musk himself even threatened to reassign NPR’s X handle back in 2023 after the media outlet briefly stopped posting when the billionaire started labeling the broadcaster as state media. Oddly enough, X is essentially state media now that Musk has been named to an unofficial commission called DOGE

Still trying to protect Alex Jones.

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