Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Captain Ron 12935]

25 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Somewhat Putin-esque in the outcome.

Elon would benefit from a large glass of "be smart enough to know how dumb you are," but nope.....Elon is the world's leading expert on.....literally everything.  According to Elon, at least.

This is the real crux of the argument - most people learn to keep their mouth shut when they don't fully understand something. Elon loves to bump his gums when he really doesn't know shit. Hell, he talks loudest about the stuff he doesn't know at all.

Elon would be Stinger's worst nightmare with his mouth writing checks his body really can't cash.

[B00M 6520]

2 hours ago, NoName said:

Again. I think I'll listen to the actual experts and not some fucking guy who knows nothing about the program or jets. Be it Elon or Gaetz

Calling it a failed platform is absolutely, completely and spectacularly dumb.

Yeah the F35 is great at what it designed to do. Fuck Elon but he’s not entirely wrong (blind squirrel, whatever). If the US is going to win the war of the future, it won’t be with $100M manned jets with $50M unmanned wing men jets that all cost a small fortune every single time they’re used. Be real, what’s going to be more effective: a single F35 with a couple wingmen drones (NGAD) or 2,500+ purpose built UAVs? Our obsession with expensive hardware we simply cannot build quickly needs to end ASAP.

[wildcat09 29447]

Elon stans (pretending not to be Elon stans): no no what he means is that it’s not a perfect program and is too expensive!

Elon: what fucking stealth?! I can still see it! And it doesn’t even have grok installed!

Edited Tuesday at 07:19 PM by wildcat09

[Pam Cummings 9694]

52 minutes ago, B00M said:

Yeah the F35 is great at what it designed to do. Fuck Elon but he’s not entirely wrong (blind squirrel, whatever). If the US is going to win the war of the future, it won’t be with $100M manned jets with $50M unmanned wing men jets that all cost a small fortune every single time they’re used. Be real, what’s going to be more effective: a single F35 with a couple wingmen drones (NGAD) or 2,500+ purpose built UAVs? Our obsession with expensive hardware we simply cannot build quickly needs to end ASAP.

In what world does "wars of the future" not involve nuclear stuff? 

[B00M 6520]

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

In what world does "wars of the future" not involve nuclear stuff? 

Huh? The one we’re preparing for right now over Taiwan? The one that will occur in Europe if Ukraine falls. You know, the future we can see right in front of us that will be dominated by long range missiles, long range jammer-proof drones, unmanned expendable hardware instead of floating cities. $500 to $50,000 devices that have already rendered tanks and warships obsolete; already been used to overwhelm western air defenses. The most cost effective defense against them is ultimately going to be OTHER drones. $1B carriers, $100M jets, $10M tanks… the drone swarms required to destroy these assets will always cost orders of magnitude less than them making it financially foolish to keep building them. The ones the drones don’t destroy will be pushed so far from the front line that they’re far less effective or totally useless (see Russia’s Air Force, Black Sea fleet). 

Edited Tuesday at 08:41 PM by B00M

[956 Worldwide 34870]

Chinese state media is worried about Bluesky because they can’t manipulate it like Elon’s Twitter. 
 

https://www.semafor.com/article/11/25/2024/bluesky-boom-worries-chinese-media

 

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Chinese state media is reportedly troubled by the latest exodus of X users flocking to Bluesky. State outlets, which put considerable resources into amassing millions of followers on Elon Musk’s social media platform — including by buying ads, deploying bots, and hiring influencers — have recently seen their growth plateau. 

The growing popularity of Bluesky, which has a largely liberal base and harder-to-manipulate algorithm, has sparked “worried chatter within Chinese state media circles,” a former Xinhua and China Daily employee wrote in his newsletter. He predicted the accounts will migrate to Bluesky, though it may take time. For now, the sector’s focus has shifted back to domestic, Mandarin-language channels and platforms like Bilibili, WeChat, and Douyin, the Chinese version of TikTok.

 

[956 Worldwide 34870]

1 hour ago, B00M said:

Huh? The one we’re preparing for right now over Taiwan? The one that will occur in Europe if Ukraine falls. You know, the future we can see right in front of us that will be dominated by long range missiles, long range jammer-proof drones, unmanned expendable hardware instead of floating cities. $500 to $50,000 devices that have already rendered tanks and warships obsolete; already been used to overwhelm western air defenses. The most cost effective defense against them is ultimately going to be OTHER drones. $1B carriers, $100M jets, $10M tanks… the drone swarms required to destroy these assets will always cost orders of magnitude less than them making it financially foolish to keep building them. The ones the drones don’t destroy will be pushed so far from the front line that they’re far less effective or totally useless (see Russia’s Air Force, Black Sea fleet). 

 Also, the VVS is terrifyingly effective in Ukraine right now, especially with glide bombs that are really similar to JDAMS.  Where Ukraine is having success, it’s thanks to high-end air-defense capabilities and not drones.  On the flip side, Ukraines lack of the type of long-range strike capabilities that the F-35 and other crewed aviation is a big reason why the battlefield looks like it does. 
 

TL; DR Elon is dumb on this. 

[956 Worldwide 34870]

Realizing how terribly written my last post is, wow. Posting on a cocktail of cold drugs.

Edited Tuesday at 11:15 PM by 956 Worldwide

[immamac 43406]

2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 

TL; DR Elon is dumb as fuck

FIFY

[Firemans4Horn 18190]

Man who bought Tesla for $140,000 two years ago is stunned to learn what it’s worth now

 

hint: it’s worth a whole lot less

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Also, the VVS is terrifyingly effective in Ukraine right now, especially with glide bombs that are really similar to JDAMS.  Where Ukraine is having success, it’s thanks to high-end air-defense capabilities and not drones.  On the flip side, Ukraines lack of the type of long-range strike capabilities that the F-35 and other crewed aviation is a big reason why the battlefield looks like it does. 

Ukraine and Russia both struggle as well when the drones are jammed.  Israel sent fighters into Iran for a reason, and they had no problem with Russian air defenses.  We’ve been running drones since the first Gulf War (off the battleships as artillery spotters) and arguably since Vietnam, but drones as we think of them now, we’ve been running for a couple of decades, and we have some pretty amazing ones now and probably lots that’s not been seen publicly since we kept iterating on what we were using in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Now it’s possible that Iran has old Russian stuff, but I doubt it’s that old.  There’s a reason why the Europeans are lining up to buy F-35s and even placing new orders, and why we are still investing in them, and still keeping our non-stealthy bomb trucks around.

There will be a point where we might feel secure enough in our comms or in an AI inside of a drone that’s been cut off due to jamming, using drones for what we currently use manned fighters for, but that time is not quite there yet.

And I say this as somebody who wondered on the old site when we were going to start building smaller and cheaper drone carriers instead of massive aircraft carriers.

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8 hours ago, Bevo said:

This is all true, except we don't know his conclusions, unless we are basing it on tweets rather than detailed discussions.  And personally, I think tweets suck and the idea behind tweets sucks.

Tweets are all he knows how to use these days.  I can only imagine what a meeting with him would be like.

KEEP YOUR ANSWERS TO LESS THAN 250 CHARACTERS OR I WILL FIRE YOU.  SHOW ME YOUR THREE BEST TWEETS IN THE MATTER.

[Captain Ron 12935]

3 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Man who bought Tesla for $140,000 two years ago is stunned to learn what it’s worth now

 

hint: it’s worth a whole lot less

Despite everything everyone is telling me - they are still JUST CARS. No matter the name, the rules are the same.

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https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-he-owns-everyones-twitter-account-in-bizarre-alex-jones-court-filing-2000530503

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The people behind the Onion recently won InfoWars in an auction, sold as part of a legal judgment against Jones who was found guilty of defaming the families of teachers and students who were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012. The families won a $1.4 billion judgment against Jones and selling off InfoWars was part of the liquidation process for the conspiracy theorist’s assets in order to pay down that debt. But a company tied to Jones has challenged the validity of the Onion’s purchase. And X is trying to help stop the sale.

X’s legal filing on Monday, posted online by 404 Media, argues that all of the social media accounts in the auction can’t be transferred.

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“Put simply, accounts are inherently part of X Corp.’s Services and their ‘use,'” the company said in Monday’s court filing. “A user must use X Corp.’s Services to create an account in the first instance, and to continue using the account going forward.” X insists it wasn’t claiming ownership of the content in the accounts, and is only saying it controls the accounts themselves.

“While X Corp. takes no position as to the sale of any Content posted on the X Accounts, X Corp. is the sole owner of the Services being sold as part of the sale of the X Accounts,” the social media company wrote in its court filing. “While X Corp. has granted account holders, such as Jones and FSS, a license to use the Services, such license is non-assignable, both under the terms of the TOS and applicable non-bankruptcy law (i.e., as a personal services contract), and the Trustee cannot sell, assign, or otherwise transfer such license absent X Corp.’s consent.”

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As 404 Media notes, it’s pretty standard for social media accounts to be transferred to new companies when a brand is sold. And Musk himself even threatened to reassign NPR’s X handle back in 2023 after the media outlet briefly stopped posting when the billionaire started labeling the broadcaster as state media. Oddly enough, X is essentially state media now that Musk has been named to an unofficial commission called DOGE

Still trying to protect Alex Jones.

[wildcat09 29447]

17 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Realizing how terribly written my last post is, wow. Posting on a cocktail of cold drugs.

How can you possibly have a cold when it's not cold outside?! /elon

[C-Man 27293]

[Brisketexan 105489]

6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

First Idiocracy becomes a documentary, and now The Fifth Element?  Fuck.

I better get my Mulitpass set up.

[956 Worldwide 34870]

Just read an article calling Elon an “energy vampire” and that’s exactly the case and descriptor.  Just completely latched onto our national discourse and forcing people to drain away their energy combatting his idiocy. 

[JMFP 1126]

9 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Just read an article calling Elon an “energy vampire” and that’s exactly the case and descriptor.  Just completely latched onto our national discourse and forcing people to drain away their energy combatting his idiocy. 

[Rex Kramer 1373]

1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

forcing people to drain away their energy combatting his idiocy.

This is the problem with America. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. And, this guy absolutely thrives on people combatting him. It gives him attention. He’s basically a genius Derka. 

[Captainant 27887]

9 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

This is the problem with America. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. And, this guy absolutely thrives on people combatting him. It gives him attention. He’s basically a genius Derka. 

Well he did hostilely take over the former "town square of discussion on the Internet" just to welcome all the nazis and sandyhook/911/plandemic truthers back. He forced himself and a mountain of shit into the middle of things. 

Honestly, that's the best feature of bluesky and the AT protocol. It's super easy to durably block out shitheads and prevent that crap from creeping back into your feed. You control your own algo, so you really can just have a descending timeline view and not get bombarded with bullshit and sex ads and hate

[aggie08 21569]

1 minute ago, Captainant said:

so you really can just have a descending timeline view and not get bombarded with bullshit and sex ads

I don't think bluesky is for me.

[Captainant 27887]

Just now, aggie08 said:

I don't think bluesky is for me.

That's the beauty! You could set up a separate feed that just collects your degeneracy, or tweak it to intersperse hot singles in your area with your sports shit posting. 

The idea is that since it's protocol driven and not platform driven, you control your own algorithm 

[safe sex 11800]

The babes will find their way to BlueSky, perverts. Give it time 

[Rex Kramer 1373]

58 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Well he did hostilely take over the former "town square of discussion on the Internet"

I’ve identified your problem. 

[Captainant 27887]

1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’ve identified your problem. 

I'm quoting musk

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

I'm quoting musk

Who knew the public town square of discussion on the internet consists of a lot of profiles of women with unnaturally smooth skin telling you that their pussy is in their bio?

 

[Brisketexan 105489]

That's the beauty! You could set up a separate feed that just collects your degeneracy, or tweak it to intersperse hot singles in your area with your sports shit posting. 
The idea is that since it's protocol driven and not platform driven, you control your own algorithm 

[custom algorithm] posts by curvy middle-aged brunettes with low standards who hate wearing bras [/custom algorithm] ok…let’s take this thing for a spin….

[workswithseed 2124]

34 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

[custom algorithm] posts by curvy middle-aged brunettes with low standards who hate wearing bras [/custom algorithm] ok…let’s take this thing for a spin….

Facebook isn't that far away.

[InkaUtexas 26273]

42 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

[custom algorithm] posts by curvy middle-aged brunettes with low standards who hate wearing bras [/custom algorithm] ok…let’s take this thing for a spin….

we hope to have proof of your research in a certain forum 

[Captainant 27887]

It really is wild how this oligarch has so successfully bought control of the federal government 

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/27/business/elon-musk-government-employees-targets/index.html

Unsurprisingly, musk is targeting mostly women as being unnecessary in federal agencies 

[McCroskey 1491]

38 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It really is wild how this oligarch has so successfully bought control of the federal government 

It's not wild at all.  Is this your first experience with this?

The Brookings institute did some studies a decade ago, long before Musk rose to real public fame/notoriety...and a few names of billionaires leading the way with political influence at the time included but were not limited to:

Bill & Melinda Gates

George Soros

Michael Bloomberg

Tom Steyer

Mark Zuckerberg

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 03:36 AM by McCroskey

[workswithseed 2124]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

[custom algorithm] posts by curvy middle-aged brunettes with low standards who hate wearing bras [/custom algorithm] ok…let’s take this thing for a spin….

I actually have something for ya.

 

 

[Captainant 27887]

7 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

It's not wild at all.  Is this your first experience with this?

The Brookings institute did some studies a decade ago, long before Musk rose to real public fame/notoriety...and a few names of billionaires leading the way with political influence at the time included but were not limited to:

Bill & Melinda Gates

George Soros

Michael Bloomberg

Tom Steyer

Mark Zuckerberg

So you're saying the above people were specifically and personally targeting federal employees that enforced rules they didn't like? Is this some weird #bothsides defense of what musk is doing?

[Chopper 17320]

On 11/26/2024 at 1:45 AM, atomheartbevo said:

Car people/finance people, if this happens (referencing the comments below), if Trump goes through with revoking the $7,500 EV credit, what will it do to Tesla's stock prices?  And if the carbon credits thing is canceled, that just seems like it would put Tesla in the red.

Not a car person but CA is the largest market in the US for EVs. That's an ingenious move by Newsome.

On 11/26/2024 at 7:50 AM, Captain Ron said:

 

This is becoming sad.

sadDER

 

19 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-he-owns-everyones-twitter-account-in-bizarre-alex-jones-court-filing-2000530503

Still trying to protect Alex Jones.

I'll bet telling larger advertisers that ackshually, you own their twitter account will go over well.

More concealing info over on twitter. Things not going well for Elonia.

 

5 hours ago, safe sex said:

The babes will find their way to BlueSky, perverts. Give it time 

she followed me

[Chopper 17320]

10 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

The Brookings institute

Stopped reading right there. You realize that's the sham organization that drafted the nazi's 2025 plan, I presume. Nothing they produce has any credibility. 

[McCroskey 1491]

4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

So you're saying the above people were specifically and personally targeting federal employees that enforced rules they didn't like? Is this some weird #bothsides defense of what musk is doing?

If you don't understand how politics work I can't help you.  Billionaires having considerable influence on politicians is nothing new.

[McCroskey 1491]

4 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Stopped reading right there. You realize that's the sham organization that drafted the nazi's 2025 plan, I presume. Nothing they produce has any credibility. 

I don't know all that much about them other than the references I see are generally neutral, if not positive.   Who is telling you they have "no" credibility? 

[Chopper 17320]

The cuck truck's battery sure does suck

3 burned alive in a cybertruck after it popped a curb and got wedged between a wall and a tree. https://sfist.com/2024/11/27/three-dead-one-injured-in-early-morning-cybertruck-fire-in-piedmont/

 

[Brisketexan 105489]

The cuck truck's battery sure does suck
3 burned alive in a cybertruck after it popped a curb and got wedged between a wall and a tree. https://sfist.com/2024/11/27/three-dead-one-injured-in-early-morning-cybertruck-fire-in-piedmont/

 

Not dying in a fire is woke.

[workswithseed 2124]

7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The cuck truck's battery sure does suck

3 burned alive in a cybertruck after it popped a curb and got wedged between a wall and a tree. https://sfist.com/2024/11/27/three-dead-one-injured-in-early-morning-cybertruck-fire-in-piedmont/

 

Whistling Deisel did a sus by side with this and a f250, it's just not even a good truck.

[TwiceHorn 31652]

37 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

It's not wild at all.  Is this your first experience with this?

The Brookings institute did some studies a decade ago, long before Musk rose to real public fame/notoriety...and a few names of billionaires leading the way with political influence at the time included but were not limited to:

Bill & Melinda Gates

George Soros

Michael Bloomberg

Tom Steyer

Mark Zuckerberg

 

 

 

You know what none of those people did, or are doing?  Getting appointed to a made-up position in a presidential administration where they're using their position to post lies and disinformation and target individuals for some kind of retribution.

Or jump around like a Kansas City faggot at a Presidential candidate's rally.

The above people mostly quietly donated money to causes they supported.

You people keep trying to pretend Trumpco is normal.  It's not.  

Edited Thursday at 04:15 AM by TwiceHorn

[TwiceHorn 31652]

35 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Stopped reading right there. You realize that's the sham organization that drafted the nazi's 2025 plan, I presume. Nothing they produce has any credibility. 

Brookings is not Heritage Foundation, both literally and philosophically.

They are quite credible.

No one sane would equate Elon Musk with the people on that list, who undoubtedly were influential, mostly by dint of their contributions.  Shelly/Miriam Adelson, maybe, but not Musk.

 

Edited Thursday at 04:23 AM by TwiceHorn

[McCroskey 1491]

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

You know what none of those people did, or are doing?  Getting appointed to a made-up position in a presidential administration where they're using their position to post lies and disinformation and target individuals for some kind of retribution.

You people keep trying to pretend Trumpco is normal.  It's not.  

"you people."  LOL.

I don't disagree with you, "normal" has long been billionaires wielding tremendous influence behind the scenes, which absolutely includes the targeting of specific laws, industries, people, and positions they don't like or that challenge their philosophies or ways of life.  It is very different this time being put on full display.  We shall see what difference it amounts to, personally I don't think a lot happens.

[TwiceHorn 31652]

2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

"you people."  LOL.

I don't disagree with you, "normal" has long been billionaires wielding tremendous influence behind the scenes, which absolutely includes the targeting of specific laws, industries, people, and positions they don't like or that challenge their philosophies or ways of life.  It is very different this time being put on full display.  We shall see what difference it amounts to, personally I don't think a lot happens.

The public aspect of it is extremely distasteful and results from the narcissism and huge need for public adulation of Trump.  

That these people are given actual governmental responsibility as a reward for their adulation and contribution is some next-level bullshit.  It's unprecedented for a pretty good reason.

Now, it remains possible that these complete government incompetents don't adversely affect anything, because they are, ultimately, incompetent.  But taking the chance on that because of the maximum leader's fee fees is something else.

[Chopper 17320]

19 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Brookings is not Heritage Foundation, both literally and philosophically.

They are quite credible.

No one sane would equate Elon Musk with the people on that list, who undoubtedly were influential, mostly by dint of their contributions.  Shelly/Miriam Adelson, maybe, but not Musk.

 

ha, I confused the two names. The way I keep 'em straght is to remember which one Nixon ordered to be firebombed. But I have a throbbing fucking headache right now. Would love to see a link to a study that put any of the people named in the same category as Elonia. But there isn't one so while you're right, that dude's point is even dumber. Also there's never been anything like 7 or 8 billionaires spending a billion dollars attacking a candidate for the presidency of the US. Equating what Elonia and his gang of apartheidists with any of the names listed is dumber than fuck. 

Edited Thursday at 04:43 AM by Chopper

[McCroskey 1491]

2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The public aspect of it is extremely distasteful and results from the narcissism and huge need for public adulation of Trump.  

That these people are given actual governmental responsibility as a reward for their adulation and contribution is some next-level bullshit.  It's unprecedented for a pretty good reason.

Now, it remains possible that these complete government incompetents don't adversely affect anything, because they are, ultimately, incompetent.  But taking the chance on that because of the maximum leader's fee fees is something else.

I agree with that, mostly.

I find the narcissism angle interesting...if you follow Google and the 5 characteristics they describe of Narcissists...Trump clearly is above all others in the "grandiose sense of self-worth."  BUT, looking at the other traits you can pretty much put any career member of Congress or politician in there and all would qualify for all four remaining traits.

I'll wait and see on the government responsibility aspect.  It gives me pause too but in some ways I'd rather it be out in the open than things happening behind the scenes without any visibility at all.  DC is still MOSTLY made up of lobbyists, that needs to change.

[Chopper 17320]

2 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

DC is still MOSTLY made up of lobbyists, that needs to change.

What in the actual fuck is wrong with you? 

[McCroskey 1491]

Just now, Chopper said:

What in the actual fuck is wrong with you? 

Is your brain capable of giving any specifics or dealing out pitiful neg rep?

[Chopper 17320]

1 minute ago, McCroskey said:

Is your brain capable of giving any specifics or dealing out pitiful neg rep?

"looking at the other traits you can pretty much put any career member of Congress or politician in there and all would qualify for all four remaining traits."

You're like an idiot machine that keeps on repeating versions of the stupid talking points its heard over the years.