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11 minutes ago, Chopper said:

"looking at the other traits you can pretty much put any career member of Congress or politician in there and all would qualify for all four remaining traits."

You're like an idiot machine that keeps on repeating versions of the stupid talking points its heard over the years. 

I'm sorry I'm not as enlightened as you, but keep your finger clicking on that neg rep...it's doing you wonders.  Notice I haven't hit you once.

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7 hours ago, McCroskey said:

"you people."  LOL.

I don't disagree with you, "normal" has long been billionaires wielding tremendous influence behind the scenes, which absolutely includes the targeting of specific laws, industries, people, and positions they don't like or that challenge their philosophies or ways of life.  It is very different this time being put on full display.  We shall see what difference it amounts to, personally I don't think a lot happens.

I don’t understand what you’re arguing. Are you trying to say that in the past,  Bill Gates or Warren Buffet advocated behind the scenes for the execution of NSC staffers they had beef with?  Is this based on anything other than repeat viewings of House of Cards?  

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I don’t understand what you’re arguing. Are you trying to say that in the past,  Bill Gates or Warren Buffet advocated behind the scenes for the execution of NSC staffers they had beef with?  Is this based on anything other than repeat viewings of House of Cards?  

Honestly, how would anyone ever really know but no, that's not what I'm saying happened in the past nor do I remotely worry about any real form of literal human executions happening now because someone interpreted something wrong and created a "scary sounding" narrative that's gone viral.  What I'm saying is that both parties have always been heavily influenced by billionaires and even in this election cycle, more billionaires supported Kamala at last check than did Trump, and it really wasn't close.

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4 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

Honestly, how would anyone ever really know but no, that's not what I'm saying happened in the past nor do I remotely worry about any real form of literal human executions happening now because someone interpreted something wrong and created a "scary sounding" narrative that's gone viral.  What I'm saying is that both parties have always been heavily influenced by billionaires and even in this election cycle, more billionaires supported Kamala at last check than did Trump, and it really wasn't close.

Man you really need to not get your information exclusively from Twitter. Pronghorn out front shoulda told ya 

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9 hours ago, Chopper said:

What in the actual fuck is wrong with you? 

Well, he's not wrong.  We got to get the money out of politics somehow.

I'm not even 100% sure he's a Trump supporter, but he clearly believes that "we" (opposite of "you people") are overreacting to the threat Trump poses.  I'd like to believe that too, because Trump is this unique and bizarre combo of overgrown toddler and savant and you kind of never know which one you're going to get.

He was mostly ineffectual in his first term, because he REALLY didn't know what he was doing.  Now he kind of does.  I am more worried about the manipulators and ideologues than the incompetents that mostly comprise his cabinet picks.  But it's probably the assistants and deputies that get more shit done than the Secretaries.  And that's scary.

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Funny thing about Musk, I can't wholly discount the success he has had with multiple and diverse ventures.  Something is going on with that guy, although I don't know what, exactly.

But, for the last few years, he seems to have changed.  He espouses this crazy hard work, yet for years now seems to be putting in less than 100 hour weeks shitposting on twatterx.  I find it difficult to believe that the more recent Musk brings anything of value to a business, besides money.

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Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'

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X owner Elon Musk has taken a brief break from posting racism, transphobia, and conspiracy theory nonsense to say that gaming has become too "woke" because the industry is dominated by massive corporations, and so he is going to use his own massive corporation to start a new game studio powered by AI "to make games great again!"

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Musk's latest outburst came in response to Dogecoin co-creator Billy Markus, who said he doesn't understand how game developers and journalists have become "so ideologically captured," particularly given that gamers—real gamers, one must assume—"have always rejected dumb manipulative BS, and can tell when someone is an outsider poser."

"Too many game studios that are owned by massive corporations," said Musk, the owner of X, SpaceX, and Tesla, whose personal net worth is somewhere north of $322 billion. "xAI is going to start an AI game studio to make games great again!" Lest there be any doubt about his motivations, Musk wrote in another post, "Can't they just make good games and skip the woke lecture?"

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

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Elon Musk says too many game studios are owned by giant corporations so his giant corporation is going to start a studio to 'make games great again'

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He's absolutely going to do an AI generated game that is horrific and has both bad reviews on steam and meta critic and gets pulled from the market.

It's going to be so broken.

I'm here for it. Video game development is HARD
 

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28 minutes ago, NoName said:

He's absolutely going to do an AI generated game that is horrific and has both bad reviews on steam and meta critic and gets pulled from the market.

It's going to be so broken.

I'm here for it. Video game development is HARD

Given that his AI is trained on Twitter, it’s going to be racist as fuck.

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40 minutes ago, NoName said:

He's absolutely going to do an AI generated game that is horrific and has both bad reviews on steam and meta critic and gets pulled from the market.

It's going to be so broken.

I'm here for it. Video game development is HARD
 

Incredible 

Great news. Doesn't like doing woke crime in video games but is ok with crime in real life?

 

 

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4 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, he's not wrong.  We got to get the money out of politics somehow.

I'm not even 100% sure he's a Trump supporter, but he clearly believes that "we" (opposite of "you people") are overreacting to the threat Trump poses.  I'd like to believe that too, because Trump is this unique and bizarre combo of overgrown toddler and savant and you kind of never know which one you're going to get.

He was mostly ineffectual in his first term, because he REALLY didn't know what he was doing.  Now he kind of does.  I am more worried about the manipulators and ideologues than the incompetents that mostly comprise his cabinet picks.  But it's probably the assistants and deputies that get more shit done than the Secretaries.  And that's scary.

This was his statement to which you quoted my response:  "DC is still MOSTLY made up of lobbyists, that needs to change."

Looking at its most basic meaning, it's absolutely fucking asinine. DC isn't in fact "mostly lobbyists." It's a city with more residents than the state of Wyoming but with zero electoral votes. Are there many lobbyists who work there? Sure. Do they form even a majority of its people? No. I'd wager most of the registered lobbyists don't even live within the DC limits.

On a larger scope, there's the implication that we need to get rid of lobbyists. The purpose of lobbying is to petition government. It's based on the constitutional rights to free speech and petition the government. You're not going to get rid of lobbyists. More people and organizations than "lobbyists" petition government. Elon Musk, for example, isn't a lobbyist. Neither is the National Organization for Women. Elonia wasn't acting as a lobbyist when he and his apartheidist fiends spent almost a Billion dollars to elect a convicted fraudster, an adjudged rapist and a fascist who already tried once to overthrow the US government. Lobbying isn't the issue. Our country's biggest issues are at the core of the basic definition of Democracy. 

The republican controlled Supreme Court in a series of decisions over several years has absolutely decimated any realistic possibility of getting HUGE money out of politics. People and businesses have almost zero limits on spending in elections. It would take a huge leap and almost essentially require the annihilation of cunts like Elonia, his billionaire friends, and a good portion of the republican members of the US Senate and House. Drumpf's friends are the types who buy legislators, and who get 3/4-regarded fucks like Tommy Tuberville elected because he'll always vote their way. Notice I am purposely leaving out Bill Gates and the scary Jewish guys your man named, who are not at all in the same fight for direct influence and dominance. Equating those people is not only wrong it's incredibly ignorant. 

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3 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Why are you paying attention to an assclown?  Why are you on Twitter?  He is winning. 

Unfortunately Musk has purchased his way to the right hand of the president-elect, resulting in an appointment to an extra-governmental organization charged with fundamentally dismantling multiple institutions.  His tweets about fighter jets knocked close to 4% off the value of a major defense contractor’s stock. It’s real life, although your take is very much in line with the type of people who treat politics and national security like a TV show you can turn off.  They end up being extremely irresponsible with their civic liberties. 

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52 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Unfortunately Musk has purchased his way to the right hand of the president-elect, resulting in an appointment to an extra-governmental organization charged with fundamentally dismantling multiple institutions.  His tweets about fighter jets knocked close to 4% off the value of a major defense contractor’s stock. It’s real life, although your take is very much in line with the type of people who treat politics and national security like a TV show you can turn off.  They end up being extremely irresponsible with their civic liberties. 

Nah I just don’t grind on it, wasting time engaging with Musk directly, or whining about his every move. Hes an attention whore. I don’t like him, but giving him attention makes him more powerful. And yall are willing to take his bait. I’m not neglecting my civil liberties. They aren’t being threatened. 

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22 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’m not neglecting my civil liberties. They aren’t being threatened. 

No wife? No kids? Not an activist about any issues unpopular to a fascist president or his minions? Don't work for a business in competition with him or that of his minions? Glad to give up what should be your right to healthcare? Happy to have hollywood produce only shows and movies that don't offend dear leader? Sure, who gives a fuck. 

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26 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Nah I just don’t grind on it, wasting time engaging with Musk directly, or whining about his every move. Hes an attention whore. I don’t like him, but giving him attention makes him more powerful. And yall are willing to take his bait. I’m not neglecting my civil liberties. They aren’t being threatened. 

Voting is a civil liberty and the majority of the electorate was grossly irresponsible with it. It’s not about being threatened, it’s what you do with them. 

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

No wife? No kids? Not an activist about any issues unpopular to a fascist president or his minions? Don't work for a business in competition with him or that of his minions? Glad to give up what should be your right to healthcare? Happy to have hollywood produce only shows and movies that don't offend dear leader? Sure, who gives a fuck. 

I did not vote for who you think. I think he and Elon are threats to my business and it’ll have impacts. I’ve got a wife and kids. You’re totally out of your mind. 

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1 minute ago, Rex Kramer said:

I did not vote for who you think. I think he and Elon are threats to my business and it’ll have impacts. I’ve got a wife and kids. You’re totally out of your mind. 

Well asshole I didn't say anything about who you voted for. My question was in response to what you wrote: "My civil liberties aren't being threatened." 

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34 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Well asshole I didn't say anything about who you voted for. My question was in response to what you wrote: "My civil liberties aren't being threatened." 

They’re not. Nor are my family’s. Doesn’t mean I like what’s going on but I’m not gonna spend one iota of time engaging with him or getting wound up about what he says or does. Hes a fucking idiot and I ignore these people. 

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13 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

They’re not. Nor are my family’s. Doesn’t mean I like what’s going on but I’m not gonna spend one iota of time engaging with him or getting wound up about what he says or does. Hes a fucking idiot and I ignore these people. 

Your civil liberties are absolutely threatened by what's coming. Not engaging isn't an excuse for not understanding, nor is it absolving. 

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5 hours ago, Chopper said:

This was his statement to which you quoted my response:  "DC is still MOSTLY made up of lobbyists, that needs to change."

Looking at its most basic meaning, it's absolutely fucking asinine. DC isn't in fact "mostly lobbyists." It's a city with more residents than the state of Wyoming but with zero electoral votes. Are there many lobbyists who work there? Sure. Do they form even a majority of its people? No. I'd wager most of the registered lobbyists don't even live within the DC limits.

On a larger scope, there's the implication that we need to get rid of lobbyists. The purpose of lobbying is to petition government. It's based on the constitutional rights to free speech and petition the government. You're not going to get rid of lobbyists. More people and organizations than "lobbyists" petition government. Elon Musk, for example, isn't a lobbyist. Neither is the National Organization for Women. Elonia wasn't acting as a lobbyist when he and his apartheidist fiends spent almost a Billion dollars to elect a convicted fraudster, an adjudged rapist and a fascist who already tried once to overthrow the US government. Lobbying isn't the issue. Our country's biggest issues are at the core of the basic definition of Democracy. 

The republican controlled Supreme Court in a series of decisions over several years has absolutely decimated any realistic possibility of getting HUGE money out of politics. People and businesses have almost zero limits on spending in elections. It would take a huge leap and almost essentially require the annihilation of cunts like Elonia, his billionaire friends, and a good portion of the republican members of the US Senate and House. Drumpf's friends are the types who buy legislators, and who get 3/4-regarded fucks like Tommy Tuberville elected because he'll always vote their way. Notice I am purposely leaving out Bill Gates and the scary Jewish guys your man named, who are not at all in the same fight for direct influence and dominance. Equating those people is not only wrong it's incredibly ignorant. 

"Absolutely Fucking Asinine."  LOL.  

Here's Bernie Sanders a month ago.  We can get into more details if you want but this is the gist of what I was saying.  Lobbying is out of control and stop pretending like that's materially different than how billionaires directly or indirectly influence what happens in DC.  Get rid of Lobbying completely?  Not at all what I'm saying, that's actually asinine but it certainly should be brought under control.

Completely laughable if you think the billionaires I mentioned aren't in the same fight.

 

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

I’ll regret this, but, explain. 

Did you read anything about their Project 2025? But start with the right to free and fair elections, and your wife and daughters rights to potentially life-saving healthcare. 

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2 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

They’re not. Nor are my family’s. Doesn’t mean I like what’s going on but I’m not gonna spend one iota of time engaging with him or getting wound up about what he says or does. Hes a fucking idiot and I ignore these people. 

heheh, nah, instead you come here and do that!

And we appreciate you.

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27 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Did you read anything about their Project 2025? But start with the right to free and fair elections, and your wife and daughters rights to potentially life-saving healthcare. 

You and your kid's rights to schooling that isn't full of religious propaganda.

Right now, in the nascent stages of this shit, it's non-denominational "Christianity" that's being pushed.  But "non-denominational" is such a lie.

Before too long, it will be biblical inerrancy and dispensationalism with a healthy dose of at least implied contempt for religious libruls like Methodists and Presbyterians, and let's not forget about the dirty kikes and mackerel-snappers.  

And lets not forget about other institutions besides public education that are being infiltrated by Christian nationalists.  That shit is going to get ugly quick, and not just for moderate, possibly Christ-following Christians.

Slippery slope is a common argument, but the above is a real one.

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3 hours ago, Chopper said:

Your civil liberties are absolutely threatened by what's coming. Not engaging isn't an excuse for not understanding, nor is it absolving. 

By what's coming:

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LOL.   This guy is something else.   If he didn't have the ability to give neg rep he'd have nothing at all.   Sad!

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22 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

By what's coming:

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LOL.   This guy is something else.   If he didn't have the ability to give neg rep he'd have nothing at all.   Sad!

Right now, the state of Texas is giving schools $60 a head if they agree to add the Bible to their curriculum. While they're taking funds away left and right. Public schools are becoming explicitly Christian schools. That's fucked. Just an example of where our civil rights are being eroded 

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

Did you read anything about their Project 2025? But start with the right to free and fair elections, and your wife and daughters rights to potentially life-saving healthcare. 

Yes I did. You’re wading into CR, but I’ll respond. The fair elections deal is left wing conspiracy theatrics, and it’s not worth discussion. My wife won’t have these issues. My daughters may living in Texas and currently teenagers. It’s a concern of mine and a fairly big one. None of my civil liberties are being threatened. 

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14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Right now, the state of Texas is giving schools $60 a head if they agree to add the Bible to their curriculum. While they're taking funds away left and right. Public schools are becoming explicitly Christian schools. That's fucked. Just an example of where our civil rights are being eroded 

I saw something from the AP less than a week ago on this, are you saying it's already in practice or is it still early stages?  I don't see this one passing any court challenges.  Or do you know otherwise?

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21 minutes ago, McCroskey said:

I saw something from the AP less than a week ago on this, are you saying it's already in practice or is it still early stages?  I don't see this one passing any court challenges.  Or do you know otherwise?

Again, you need to get your information from more places than just Twitter 

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/education/texas-state-board-of-education-public-school-curriculum-biblical-references/269-33dae414-9316-48bd-a6a1-f3dd87a981b9

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The curriculum is optional for Texas public schools. They do not have to opt in, but a financial incentive exists if they choose to. If they do opt in, the state would give the district an extra $60 per student.

"These budget-strapped districts may be looking to anything to help bring a few extra dollars into these very tight budget situations that they find themselves in," said Kelsey Kling, a government relations specialist and policy analyst for the Texas American Federation of Teachers.

In recent weeks across the state, Molina said districts have been looking at cutting expenses and programs to ensure they can pay teachers and bills, and give students a quality education experience.

"At this time, that's the only way to get a little bit of extra money for their school districts," Molina said. "We are seeing school districts passing by. It deficits, trying to figure out how they're going to ensure that their schools stay open, that their educators aren't rushed out of education in a state where we already have a teacher shortage, not just with the teachers this year, but of a shortage of people wanting to come into education because of all of the different burdens that are being put on our educators at this time."

Put the most relevant portion wrt/ funding and arm twisting in the quote above

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

You and your kid's rights to schooling that isn't full of religious propaganda.

Right now, in the nascent stages of this shit, it's non-denominational "Christianity" that's being pushed.  But "non-denominational" is such a lie.

Before too long, it will be biblical inerrancy and dispensationalism with a healthy dose of at least implied contempt for religious libruls like Methodists and Presbyterians, and let's not forget about the dirty kikes and mackerel-snappers.  

And lets not forget about other institutions besides public education that are being infiltrated by Christian nationalists.  That shit is going to get ugly quick, and not just for moderate, possibly Christ-following Christians.

Slippery slope is a common argument, but the above is a real one.

Actually, I should have said not just for non-Christians.  Some non-fundagelical Christians are gonna start feeling a pinch in pretty short order too.

I believe Kramer claimed not to know anyone that believed in the necessity of the existence of Israel to insure the Rapture.  Well, pretty soon people that don't share that belief are going to be on the outside looking in.

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1 hour ago, McCroskey said:

I saw something from the AP less than a week ago on this, are you saying it's already in practice or is it still early stages?  I don't see this one passing any court challenges.  Or do you know otherwise?

In America, the one we used to know, no it probably wouldn't pass any court challenges.

But in today's Amerikkka, Mrs. Josh Hawley and Alliance Defending Freedom are going to be defending that shit in Amarillo in Kaczmaryk's court and the Fifth Circuit will review his decision upholding the law, leaving it to the Supreme Catholic Court to hew to the First Amendment.

So, good luck with that.  If you are a Trump or GOP voter, this is what you've wrought.

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7 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Actually, I should have said not just for non-Christians.  Some non-fundagelical Christians are gonna start feeling a pinch in pretty short order too.

I believe Kramer claimed not to know anyone that believed in the necessity of the existence of Israel to insure the Rapture.  Well, pretty soon people that don't share that belief are going to be on the outside looking in.

No I don’t. And I don’t care what people believe, so long as I get to make fun of them. It’s not gonna be crammed down anyone’s throats. My church doesn’t teach it, and stating, out loud, that anything Trump or more to the point Elon do are going to cause us to feel a pinch in short is lunacy. I’ll continue to not feel victimized. 

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Just now, Rex Kramer said:

No I don’t. And I don’t care what people believe, so long as I get to make fun of them. It’s not gonna be crammed down anyone’s throats. My church doesn’t teach it, and stating, out loud, that anything Trump or more to the point Elon do are going to cause us to feel a pinch in short is lunacy. I’ll continue to not feel victimized. 

What you're missing here is that it's not Trump or Elon, alone.  It's Tim Dunn and Farris Wilks, Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton, and a whole slew of other people quietly installed in power in this state that are pumping this Christian agenda.

If you think you're safe because you're a Christian, albeit a moderate liberal Christian, think again.  Texas is further along with the plan that most everywhere else.  And, as you love to point out, not all Christians hew to the same beliefs as the lunatics.  Well, the lunatics are increasingly in charge and pretty soon the rest of us are all going to be labeled heretics, including you.

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What you're missing here is that it's not Trump or Elon, alone.  It's Tim Dunn and Farris Wilks, Greg Abbott and Ken Paxton, and a whole slew of other people quietly installed in power in this state that are pumping this Christian agenda.

If you think you're safe because you're a Christian, albeit a moderate liberal Christian, think again.  Texas is further along with the plan that most everywhere else.  And, as you love to point out, not all Christians hew to the same beliefs as the lunatics.  Well, the lunatics are increasingly in charge and pretty soon the rest of us are all going to be labeled heretics, including you.

I know Dunn personally. If he or any of that ilk brand me a heretic, I’ll laugh. This is what you do with these people, Elon included. WGAF. 

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

The fair elections deal is left wing conspiracy theatrics, and it’s not worth discussion...

My daughters may living in Texas and currently teenagers. It’s a concern of mine and a fairly big one. None of my civil liberties are being threatened. 

I have no idea what you intended to type in your second sentence. But let's say, for example, your teenage daughter gets raped and impregnated. It's likely to soon be the case that abortions will be against the law in every state. Are you ready for a state and nation that's ready to monitor your daughter's uterus and keep track of any trips across state lines, or what she may receive in the mail, or trips across the border? Or, less shockingly, what if she suffers an ectopic pregnancy and her life is endangered because the zygot can't be aborted. That's somehow not threatening enough to a dad of 2 girls?

As for your apparent, laughably ignorant, belief that they didn't try to get the VP away from the Senate so that the counting of electoral votes would be thrown into chaos in 2020, giving them a hope to overturn an election is "conspriacy theatrics," you should get a fuckin' clue. It's well-documented history. And you're even more foolish if you don't think they were planning to try to use a compliant supreme court if they hadn't won this time. Notice how all the incessant whining of "there's so much cheating going on in the election" suddenly stopped after election day? 

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15 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I know Dunn personally. If he or any of that ilk brand me a heretic, I’ll laugh. This is what you do with these people, Elon included. WGAF. 

Well, his "ilk" are people in power in this state.  So, it won't be Tim Dunn personally labeling you a heretic.  It might be a judge on the US District Court for the Northern DIstrict of Texas.  Or the Railroad Commission.  Or Ken Paxton or whatever demagogue follows him when he's elected to the Senate if we don't come to our fucking senses. 

I think you might find that rather unpleasant.  And you won't be able to laugh your way out of that.

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10 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I have no idea what you intended to type in your second sentence. But let's say, for example, your teenage daughter gets raped and impregnated. It's likely to soon be the case that abortions will be against the law in every state. Are you ready for a state and nation that's ready to monitor your daughter's uterus and keep track of any trips across state lines, or what she may receive in the mail, or trips across the border? Or, less shockingly, what if she suffers an ectopic pregnancy and her life is endangered because the zygot can't be aborted. That's somehow not threatening enough to a dad of 2 girls?

As for your apparent, laughably ignorant, belief that they didn't try to get the VP away from the Senate so that the counting of electoral votes would be thrown into chaos in 2020, giving them a hope to overturn an election is "conspriacy theatrics," you should get a fuckin' clue. It's well-documented history. And you're even more foolish if you don't think they were planning to try to use a compliant supreme court if they hadn't won this time. Notice how all the cries of "there's so much cheating going on in the election" suddenly stopped after election day? 

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

Well, his "ilk" are people in power in this state.  So, it won't be Tim Dunn personally labeling you a heretic.  It might be a judge on the US District Court for the Northern DIstrict of Texas.  Or the Railroad Commission.  Or Ken Paxton or whatever demagogue follows him when he's elected to the Senate if we don't come to our fucking senses.

I think you might find that rather unpleasant

Hyperbole. I’ve never encountered a US District Court judge, in Texas or otherwise, and have no cause to interact with the RRC. 

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