Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Gatorubet 30710]

16 minutes ago, tomahawk dunk said:

Yeah, I can't see that going over well with the Donald. That's probably something we should get people to rally behind so it could hasten Musks exit from Washington and his subsidies.

I could see Trump telling the SEC to go after Musk, as Trump would have no problem weaponizing his administration for a specific purpose to hurt a perceived enemy.  Plus, it would appeal to his ego - and he would see it as a power-play to warn all other potential rivals off

[Brisketexan 106874]

Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. Musk is too powerful, and Trump knows it. Trump depends on Musk and his economic paper, as well as his near-total control of information (money is all that matters). Trump has a billion dollars. Musk has hundreds of billions.
Everything they the right supposedly worried about re (((Soros))) has come to pass, with their gleeful assistance.
We are a full-on oligarchy now, and there is no going back that doesn’t involve total collapse and massive bloodshed.
Remember…it only gets worse, and there is no bottom.

Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. Musk is too powerful, and Trump knows it. Trump depends on Musk and his economic paper, as well as his near-total control of information (money is all that matters). Trump has a billion dollars. Musk has hundreds of billions.
Everything they the right supposedly worried about re (((Soros))) has come to pass, with their gleeful assistance.
We are a full-on oligarchy now, and there is no going back that doesn’t involve total collapse and massive bloodshed.
Remember…it only gets worse, and there is no bottom.

[TexasHooch 5194]

You can say that again.

But I think you're wrong.  Trump is not a strategic thinker.  His ego will simply not allow the appearance that Musk is the one making decisions.

 

[wild_turkey 3296]

President Musk getting going early with cutting funding to children's cancer research 
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gop-cuts-child-cancer-research-funding-bill-musk-1235212295/

When you have 12 kids, you can lose a couple to cancer and nobody gives a shit. Especially if one of them has a serial number in place of a name.

[Captain Ron 13128]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. Musk is too powerful, and Trump knows it. Trump depends on Musk and his economic paper, as well as his near-total control of information (money is all that matters). Trump has a billion dollars. Musk has hundreds of billions.
Everything they the right supposedly worried about re (((Soros))) has come to pass, with their gleeful assistance.
We are a full-on oligarchy now, and there is no going back that doesn’t involve total collapse and massive bloodshed.
Remember…it only gets worse, and there is no bottom.

Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. Musk is too powerful, and Trump knows it. Trump depends on Musk and his economic paper, as well as his near-total control of information (money is all that matters). Trump has a billion dollars. Musk has hundreds of billions.
Everything they the right supposedly worried about re (((Soros))) has come to pass, with their gleeful assistance.
We are a full-on oligarchy now, and there is no going back that doesn’t involve total collapse and massive bloodshed.
Remember…it only gets worse, and there is no bottom.

 

1 hour ago, TexasHooch said:

You can say that again.

But I think you're wrong.  Trump is not a strategic thinker.  His ego will simply not allow the appearance that Musk is the one making decisions.

 

This. What does Trump need Musk for? He can't run again, he's a lame duck already. I just don't see why Trump would want Elon around when he's only stealing his thunder.

[Brisketexan 106874]

11 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

I just don't see why Trump would want Elon around when he's only stealing his thunder.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

That's why he wants Musk around.  The grift never ends.

Oh.....and y'all think that Trump won't run again.  That's adorable.

[NeverMarryAStripper 22276]

That fat fuck is going to die in office and leave us with couch fucker

[Captain Ron 13128]

[Gatorubet 30710]

2 hours ago, TexasHooch said:

You can say that again.

But I think you're wrong.  Trump is not a strategic thinker.  His ego will simply not allow the appearance that Musk is the one making decisions.

 

Trying to get in Trump‘s head requires you to be an extreme narcissist who sees things as purely transactional favoring him deals….or as toddler-esque acting out need your revenge for perceived slights. 

That is difficult to do. It’s like playing the Joker in the movie and not coming out with significant personality changes. 

[27-25 2084]

Elon Musk endorses far right AfD (Alternative for Germany) in the upcoming German elections.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elon-musk-alternative-for-germany-election-far-right-nazi-past-rcna185018

Surprise!

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5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. Musk is too powerful, and Trump knows it. Trump depends on Musk and his economic paper, as well as his near-total control of information (money is all that matters). Trump has a billion dollars. Musk has hundreds of billions.

5 hours ago, TexasHooch said:

But I think you're wrong.  Trump is not a strategic thinker.  His ego will simply not allow the appearance that Musk is the one making decisions.

Ehh, these kinds of people always believe they are the toughest/smartest in the room.

The fact is that with all of his begging/cajoling, Trump primarily stuck with this Truth.social platform even when Musk would clearly have bought it out and paid him off handsomely.  Trump was "harmed" by twitter once when they banned him and he's not going to allow that to happen again, so when he returned last year, it wasn't nearly like it was before he was banned, and it's still not like it was even today.

Trump is now about to be in office and doesn't have much use for Leon, and he gets real pissy when people talk about him being the puppets of others.

I will be surprised if Leon is still around a few months from now.

['stache 22131]

Bullshit, donal will let elon do whatever the fuck he wants, because he's a complete fucking cuck and is owned by musk. 

[Captain Ron 13128]

2 hours ago, 'stache said:

Bullshit, donal will let elon do whatever the fuck he wants, because he's a complete fucking cuck and is owned by musk. 

How is he owned by Musk? He got away with crimes. He thinks he bulletproof. Like I said,I fail to see what Elon really provides. He’s about to be the president god sakes. 

[4th&Five 41984]

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37 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I seriously think this shit is going to infuriate trump.

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42 minutes ago, tomahawk dunk said:

I seriously think this shit is going to infuriate trump.

It's gaining steam on twitter like nobody's business.  If anybody is competing with Musk in terms of trying to draw attention, all they have to do is let Trump know this stuff is floating around twitter without Leon doing anything about it.

[Captainant 28508]

Pravda Ukraine: Elon Musk backs German far-right party that supports Putin

 

[BurntEyes 6290]

Trump isn't going to let anyone, regardless of bank, out Big Swinging Dick him. 

Now, does he maybe put Leon in check, make him grovel and "forgive" him behind closed door after publicly shitting in his Wheaties, maybe. But can Leon's fragile ass ego handle being dick slapped by Trump publicly then giving him the keys to his Lamborghini  so Trump can fuck his woman in it.. Leon strikes me a pretty big cuck, so maybe. 

[elfenix 34744]

12 hours ago, TexasHooch said:

You can say that again.

But I think you're wrong.  Trump is not a strategic thinker.  His ego will simply not allow the appearance that Musk is the one making decisions.

 

Somebody over there is a strategic thinker. He negotiated the Afghan pull out to happen after the next president might be inaugurated after allowing 5000 Taliban fighters out. And you know he would have reneged on it had he won in 2020. And he also negotiated with the Saudis to cut oil production. Which predictably kicked off global inflation. I'm not sure how he would have necessarily gotten out of that one, but someone may have been able to see the writing on the wall with the president doing poorly in reaction to a global pandemic.

[Sawbonz 28198]

When narcissists collide 

[DigglerontheHoof 21548]

Maybe they'll literally kill each other.  One can dream...

[Captainant 28508]

Ya know, between musk and theil, maybe we shouldn't let South African mining heirs (musk with the emerald mine, theil with the uranium mine) dictate our domestic policy. I don't think we're gonna like their ideas, considering they've been working to re-instate the hierarchy in the US that caused SA to crumble

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13624]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-talks-with-city-austin-over-autonomous-vehicle-technology-bloomberg-news-2024-12-19/

This will end well. 

[Brisketexan 106874]

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-talks-with-city-austin-over-autonomous-vehicle-technology-bloomberg-news-2024-12-19/
This will end well. 

Allowing Tesla to do whatever it wants in Austin will be made a condition of Austin retaining its municipal status. The governor will make that clear to city leadership. “Allow whatever Elon wants, and we won’t turn Austin into a ‘state district.’” Mark my words.

[BurntEyes 6290]

48 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Allowing Tesla to do whatever it wants in Austin will be made a condition of Austin retaining its municipal status. The governor will make that clear to city leadership. “Allow whatever Elon wants, and we won’t turn Austin into a ‘state district.’” Mark my words.

Thing I love most about you is your unrelenting optimism and hope. 

I'm forever grateful for your positive energy and the ability to keep a pragmatic view of reality with amazing objectivity.

It's endearing and refreshing.

So thanks amigo!

['stache 22131]

13 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Trump isn't going to let anyone, regardless of bank, out Big Swinging Dick him. 

Now, does he maybe put Leon in check, make him grovel and "forgive" him behind closed door after publicly shitting in his Wheaties, maybe. But can Leon's fragile ass ego handle being dick slapped by Trump publicly then giving him the keys to his Lamborghini  so Trump can fuck his woman in it.. Leon strikes me a pretty big cuck, so maybe. 

Richest man in the world is infinitely more powerful than elected president. People complain that politicians are bought and paid for, who don’t think is doing that? Elon is just more public with his influence. His wealth comes largely from government contracts for crying out loud. Donal is insulated from criticisms and is too stupid to understand them anyway. He’s also by far the bigger cuck especially since his entire ego is built on being wealthy when he isn’t really that wealthy at all, he’ll let Elon blow a load on his hairpiece on live tv if he asked.

[BurntEyes 6290]

5 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Richest man in the world is infinitely more powerful than elected president. People complain that politicians are bought and paid for, who don’t think is doing that? Elon is just more public with his influence. His wealth comes largely from government contracts for crying out loud. Donal is insulated from criticisms and is too stupid to understand them anyway. He’s also by far the bigger cuck especially since his entire ego is built on being wealthy when he isn’t really that wealthy at all, he’ll let Elon blow a load on his hairpiece on live tv if he asked.

Trump cares about two things and there is a huge variance between the two in importance.

1) His Legacy

This is more important to Trump than even money. This is what matters most. How his legacy is perceived, not just right now, but in his own "future world" mind. That's #1 for Trump and it's not close. If it was money first, he would have never gotten into the political game nor TV. 

2) Money Now, don't get it wrong this is critical, but pales in comparison to what he perceives as his legacy. Nobody, no matter how rich is going to tarnish the perception of #1 no matter how much it brings to Trump's coffers. 

Anyone that can not see how critical his Legacy is to Trump at this point hasn't been paying attention. Nobody is going to take away from that perception. Egomaniac out front should have told you.

For the record, neither of these is good. Being wrong or right either way isn't good for us. I just know Trump cares most about the history written about him. Being a billionaire isn't chump change either. So no, Trump isn't letting anyone, billionaire or not, tarnish his self perceived Legacy. He'd rather fight them and force them to bow then take their money, no ask for it. Based on past events, Leon will do anything to feel important. Feel, not be. Trump knows a fucking mark when he sees one. Leon is a mark and needs Trump more than Trump needs Leon. Even if it weren't true, "Fuck you Leon, bitch boi nerd, I'm the king and you're my bitch."

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1 hour ago, BurntEyes said:

Based on past events, Leon will do anything to feel important. Feel, not be. Trump knows a fucking mark when he sees one. Leon is a mark and needs Trump more than Trump needs Leon. Even if it weren't true, "Fuck you Leon, bitch boi nerd, I'm the king and you're my bitch."

Yeah, people seem to forget that Leon is constantly seeking validation from the incels on Twitter.  The most divorced dad in America.

[elfenix 34744]

tesla sales in europe are down 13.7% YoY, while EV sales are slightly up overall, leading to this result:

Quote

In a surprising turn of events, the Dacia Sandero, a budget-friendly internal combustion engine hatchback, is about to become Europe's best-selling vehicle of 2024. This victory comes at the expense of Tesla, which dominated the European market in 2023.

https://www.arenaev.com/dacia_sandero_beats_tesla_model_y_to_become_europes_unexpected_automotive_champion-news-4252.php

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17 minutes ago, elfenix said:

tesla sales in europe are down 13.7% YoY, while EV sales are slightly up overall, leading to this result:

 

https://www.arenaev.com/dacia_sandero_beats_tesla_model_y_to_become_europes_unexpected_automotive_champion-news-4252.php

That thing would sell like hotcakes here at that price.

[Captain Ron 13128]

3 hours ago, 'stache said:

Donal is insulated from criticisms and is too stupid to understand them anyway.

Yeah, I don't agree with this. Donald is all about his image and perception. He wants to be seen as a great man/leader/president/etc. He doesn't know how to do it, but that's what he wants.

 

3 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Trump cares about two things and there is a huge variance between the two in importance.

1) His Legacy

This is more important to Trump than even money. This is what matters most. How his legacy is perceived, not just right now, but in his own "future world" mind. That's #1 for Trump and it's not close. If it was money first, he would have never gotten into the political game nor TV. 

2) Money Now, don't get it wrong this is critical, but pales in comparison to what he perceives as his legacy. Nobody, no matter how rich is going to tarnish the perception of #1 no matter how much it brings to Trump's coffers. 

Anyone that can not see how critical his Legacy is to Trump at this point hasn't been paying attention. Nobody is going to take away from that perception. Egomaniac out front should have told you.

For the record, neither of these is good. Being wrong or right either way isn't good for us. I just know Trump cares most about the history written about him. Being a billionaire isn't chump change either. So no, Trump isn't letting anyone, billionaire or not, tarnish his self perceived Legacy. He'd rather fight them and force them to bow then take their money, no ask for it. Based on past events, Leon will do anything to feel important. Feel, not be. Trump knows a fucking mark when he sees one. Leon is a mark and needs Trump more than Trump needs Leon. Even if it weren't true, "Fuck you Leon, bitch boi nerd, I'm the king and you're my bitch."

More of this. This is what drives DJT. And this is where Elon is a thorn in his side - he steals his thunder and that is something DJT won't suffer. If Elon is seen as pulling the strings, Trump will eject him faster than you can jump up and "make" and X logo.

This is where men like Thiel and guys that really know how to stroke Trump's ego will control the situation - they will truly whisper all this shit in Donald's ear and poison their relationship.

[Brisketexan 106874]

Elon feeds anti-immigrant rage. Elon endorses new Nazi party AfD as “Europe’s only hope.”
Hours later, enraged AfD sympathizer launches terror attack at Christmas market, killing 5, injuring 200.
Elon is a stochastic terrorist, openly and proudly evil, and the most dangerous man on the planet. If you stand with him in any way, you stand with stochastic terrorism and open naziism.

[safe sex 11980]

Lord knows we aren't going to do shit about Elon. Hopefully Europe can find the courage and will

[TexasHooch 5194]

6 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Elon feeds anti-immigrant rage. Elon endorses new Nazi party AfD as “Europe’s only hope.”
Hours later, enraged AfD sympathizer launches terror attack at Christmas market, killing 5, injuring 200.
Elon is a stochastic terrorist, openly and proudly evil, and the most dangerous man on the planet. If you stand with him in any way, you stand with stochastic terrorism and open naziism.

[Gatorubet 30710]

On 12/20/2024 at 8:59 AM, Brisketexan said:

Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. Musk is too powerful, and Trump knows it. Trump depends on Musk and his economic paper, as well as his near-total control of information (money is all that matters). Trump has a billion dollars. Musk has hundreds of billions.
Everything they the right supposedly worried about re (((Soros))) has come to pass, with their gleeful assistance.
We are a full-on oligarchy now, and there is no going back that doesn’t involve total collapse and massive bloodshed.
Remember…it only gets worse, and there is no bottom.

Yeah…that’s not gonna happen. Musk is too powerful, and Trump knows it. Trump depends on Musk and his economic paper, as well as his near-total control of information (money is all that matters). Trump has a billion dollars. Musk has hundreds of billions.
Everything they the right supposedly worried about re (((Soros))) has come to pass, with their gleeful assistance.
We are a full-on oligarchy now, and there is no going back that doesn’t involve total collapse and massive bloodshed.
Remember…it only gets worse, and there is no bottom.

While I have no cogent argument to counter this real politic response, we have Trump at the wheel here.  Like seeing Dale Brown on the other side of the court….

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4 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

More of this. This is what drives DJT. And this is where Elon is a thorn in his side - he steals his thunder and that is something DJT won't suffer. If Elon is seen as pulling the strings, Trump will eject him faster than you can jump up and "make" and X logo.

Yep, and the memes are increasing in numbers and making the rounds and leaking into the mainstream media, which Trump will definitely see. And somebody who is close to him will show him the memes, to drive a wedge between him and Musk, if he’s not seeing them himself on social media.

Trump’s extremely sensitive about being seen as being his own man - he’s never liked people bringing up what he inherited because it comes across as he hasn’t earned or done anything, and that everything is due to Fred Trump and not him.

Musk is too fucking tone deaf to realize when he goes too far.  He’s pissing off people with the shutdown talk and with blowing up the budget talks.  He can blame it on his self-diagnosed autism, but he’s going to be shocked when it  happens and he’s not able to sit in on any meetings. Thiel knew what he was doing getting Vance into the WH.

I will be surprised if Musk still has access to the WH come February or March.

 

[chainsaw 10281]

Anyone remember how Kim Jung Il would become suspicious of his trusted generals and accuse them of betraying him? How did that turn out for those generals?

[SizzleChest 8313]

33 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Anyone remember how Kim Jung Il would become suspicious of his trusted generals and accuse them of betraying him? How did that turn out for those generals?

I believe poorly.

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53 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Anyone remember how Kim Jung Il would become suspicious of his trusted generals and accuse them of betraying him? How did that turn out for those generals?

18 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

I believe poorly.

Definitely poorly, unless your fetish was to be strapped to the end of an anti-aircraft gun.

[Captain Ron 13128]

1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

Anyone remember how Kim Jung Il would become suspicious of his trusted generals and accuse them of betraying him? How did that turn out for those generals?

Couldn’t tell you, I never heard about them again. 

[BurntEyes 6290]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Definitely poorly, unless your fetish was to be strapped to the end of an anti-aircraft gun.

Just in case people here don't know or think you're being hyperbolic.

Yes, he actually killed a general with an Anti-Aircraft gun

[TwiceHorn 32071]

10 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Trump cares about two things and there is a huge variance between the two in importance.

1) His Legacy

This is more important to Trump than even money. This is what matters most. How his legacy is perceived, not just right now, but in his own "future world" mind. That's #1 for Trump and it's not close. If it was money first, he would have never gotten into the political game nor TV. 

2) Money Now, don't get it wrong this is critical, but pales in comparison to what he perceives as his legacy. Nobody, no matter how rich is going to tarnish the perception of #1 no matter how much it brings to Trump's coffers. 

Anyone that can not see how critical his Legacy is to Trump at this point hasn't been paying attention. Nobody is going to take away from that perception. Egomaniac out front should have told you.

For the record, neither of these is good. Being wrong or right either way isn't good for us. I just know Trump cares most about the history written about him. Being a billionaire isn't chump change either. So no, Trump isn't letting anyone, billionaire or not, tarnish his self perceived Legacy. He'd rather fight them and force them to bow then take their money, no ask for it. Based on past events, Leon will do anything to feel important. Feel, not be. Trump knows a fucking mark when he sees one. Leon is a mark and needs Trump more than Trump needs Leon. Even if it weren't true, "Fuck you Leon, bitch boi nerd, I'm the king and you're my bitch."

I'm not sure it's his legacy he cares about so much as his current, living ability to maintain his inflated self-image, of which wealth is a part, but only a subsidiary one.  But it's the same result, either way.