Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[TexasHooch 5328]

[Ted Lange 16583]

 

 

 

[Brisketexan 107150]

A nice side benefit of this is how MAGA is completely dropping the veil of "oh, no, we only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration!"  That was always a lie.   And now, they are openly telling you "yep, that was a lie.  We don't want ANY immigrants.  At all."

Whereas Elon just says "look, so long as I can have functional slaves, I don't care where they come from."

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From a few hours ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/musk-vivek-ramaswamy-h1b-visa-maga-immigration-what-to-know/

Musk and Ramaswamy's views have sparked an online spat between factions of Trump's supporters over immigration and the tech industry, whose businesses rely on the H-1B visa to bring in thousands of foreign engineers and other skilled workers each year from India, China and other nations.

The tech industry has long called for more H-1B visas to attract highly skilled workers to the U.S., although Trump's first administration restricted the program in 2020, arguing that it allows businesses to replace Americans with lower-paid foreign workers. 

That debate has again erupted after Musk, himself once on an H-1B visa and whose electric vehicle company Tesla has hired workers using the program, defended the tech industry's need to bring in foreign workers. Ramaswamy, for his part, wrote in an X post that American culture "has venerated mediocrity over excellence," leading to a nation that does "not produce the best engineers."

"There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley," Musk wrote on Dec. 25 on X, his social media app. 

The debate touched off this week when Laura Loomer, a right-wing influencer with a history of racist and conspiratorial comments, criticized Trump's selection of Sriram Krishnan as an adviser on artificial intelligence policy in his coming administration. Krishnan favors the ability to bring more skilled immigrants into the U.S.

Loomer declared the stance to be "not America First policy" and said the tech executives who have aligned themselves with Trump were doing so to enrich themselves. 

Loomer's comments sparked a back-and-forth with venture capitalist and former PayPal executive David Sacks, whom Trump has tapped to be the "White House A.I. & Crypto Czar." Musk and Ramaswamy, whom Trump has tasked with finding ways to cut the federal government, defended the tech industry's need to bring in foreign workers.

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What if Musk dumped a shitload of money into Trump’s campaign and whispered sweet nothings into his ear, so that he could stop Trump from restricting H-1Bs, and even increase the number coming in?  What if Vivek joined in for similar reasons?

Musk is trying to shut down California’s high-speed initiatives, he and Vivek want some loans or grants given to other EV makers rescinded, he wants to increase government contracts to SpaceX, he wants the EPA scaled back or ditched so they’d get off his back, and so on, and so forth.

All of the sudden people are discovering that a billionaire oligarch wants to do things that benefit himself?

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1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

Elon is what you get when you combine some underlying personality disorder with a massive sleep debt while dabbling with some drugs.  

Dabbling?

[NoName 17306]

It's him.

 

 

[D_Goose 506]

Meh.

Edited Saturday at 01:35 AM by D_Goose

[956 Worldwide 35700]

3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

A nice side benefit of this is how MAGA is completely dropping the veil of "oh, no, we only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration!"  That was always a lie.   And now, they are openly telling you "yep, that was a lie.  We don't want ANY immigrants.  At all."

Whereas Elon just says "look, so long as I can have functional slaves, I don't care where they come from."

Yall got Elon’s real motivations twisted. No one stans harder for Elon than Indian tech dudes on Twitter so that’s what side he’s on. 

[Surly Bevo 26000]

I mean, this is all highly entertaining of course, but some of you guys are acting like any of this going on over the last day on the Xitter matters.

It does not matter.

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41 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I mean, this is all highly entertaining of course, but some of you guys are acting like any of this going on over the last day on the Xitter matters.

It does not matter.

Well, President Leon is going to find himself kicked off the Doge commission, and that's going to be fun as fuck, especially if the H-1Bs are drastically limited or completely ended.  We will see twitter weaponized against people who aren't used to it.

Musk probably doesn't even see this coming - from his twitter postings lately, he seems to be oblivious to how many people are pissed at him, and because he's always the smartest guy in the room, he thinks the people disagreeing with him are morons. He helped Trump get elected, but he doesn't understand that he's pretty useless to Trump now.

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, President Leon is going to find himself kicked off the Doge commission, and that's going to be fun as fuck, especially if the H-1Bs are drastically limited or completely ended.  We will see twitter weaponized against people who aren't used to it.

Musk probably doesn't even see this coming - from his twitter postings lately, he seems to be oblivious to how many people are pissed at him, and because he's always the smartest guy in the room, he thinks the people disagreeing with him are morons. He helped Trump get elected, but he doesn't understand that he's pretty useless to Trump now.

This is all playing out on Xitter.  It's entertaining....it's also 2 days after Christmas, and nobody is paying attention.  I said it on the other thread.  This is the same shit verse 3,567 of all the other breathless pre-election "holy shit look at this insanity, can you believe this is happening" tweets from generally the same cast of characters.  

 

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1 minute ago, Chopper said:

 

Oh WOW REALLY??

I mean take your pic of a few that took 3 seconds to locate

[Nivek 17486]

Can it take owners down to see the Titanic?

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2 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Can it take owners down to see the Titanic?

Take them down?  Yes.  

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45 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

This is all playing out on Xitter.  It's entertaining....it's also 2 days after Christmas, and nobody is paying attention.  I said it on the other thread.  This is the same shit verse 3,567 of all the other breathless pre-election "holy shit look at this insanity, can you believe this is happening" tweets from generally the same cast of characters.  

Ehh, it's being covered by the media, and the right-wingers like Loomer are foaming at the mouth over it, and there are people in Congress pissed about it.  Combine with the "President Musk" talk and Musk won't be around in the administration much longer.  He believes he can convince Trump of anything, and doesn't realize that everybody is disposable to Trump.

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[BrickHorn 18505]

13 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

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16 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Don’t you think this has got to be the biggest con of all times?  I mean, we gave the keys to this country to this?

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18 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

I can't believe that is real, but damned if it is real.  He's going to die on this hill.

Shit, he may not be in the administration by the time Trump is sworn in.

[Ted Lange 16583]

[mchookem 16885]

6 hours ago, TexasHooch said:

so which one is playing slorch and which is Iceman? 

[mchookem 16885]

34 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

 

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10 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

That is the Elon Musk that will absolutely go to war over the H-1B thing.

I look forward to him leading his army of bots and incels against MAGA.

[Chopper 17495]

 

[Chopper 17495]

1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

Oh WOW REALLY??

I mean take your pic of a few that took 3 seconds to locate

Why did you post a bunch of Trump-related posts from xitter in this thread?  Go fuck yourself in the face. 

Also if you had taken a minute to read what you quoted and what you cross-posted you'd have noticed they're nothing alike. Assuming you weren't wasted out of your mind. 

 

Edited Saturday at 05:36 AM by Chopper

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11 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

I think it's drugs. Ketamine and others. 

waitwaitwaitwaitwait.

you think this guy might be on drugs? 

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13 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

waitwaitwaitwaitwait.

you think this guy might be on drugs? 

Combine it with an ego like his, and that he thinks everything he has achieved has been solely due to his own hard work and brilliance, and that any criticism of H-1Bs is a criticism of him and, well,...

 

edit: apparently the H-1B thing has been a sore point for him for many years (probably since his brother outed them as being here illegally).

Edited Saturday at 05:54 AM by atomheartbevo

[Chopper 17495]

Oh lord

 

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Yes, this is the person you should be responding to.

Yes Leon, talk about Dunning-Kruger

 

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Wage war against them

 

 

Yeah, that's exactly what Miller is talking about.

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I'm not reading everything, but it seems like just a brief glance and the past 2-3 days is him melting down over H-1B stuff.

Like this.

 

[Bozo_Casanova 27041]

25 years later it’s still wild to me that Compaq paid $300mm for Zip2. 
imagine explaining to somebody who was born at any time since the day Zip2 was founded what that company was. 

[Captainant 28669]

7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm not reading everything, but it seems like just a brief glance and the past 2-3 days is him melting down over H-1B stuff.

Like this.

 

The punchline is the implicit admission of breaking immigration law, which up until a week or two ago was a carnal sin for him and his ilk

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

The punchline is the implicit admission of breaking immigration law, which up until a week or two ago was a carnal sin for him and his ilk

Yeah that’s part of what is making his meltdown so hilarious.  It’s drawing attention to his breaking the law and he’s out there saying “fuck yeah I did because I’m special and should have had an easier process”.  

I’m really wondering if he is doing all of this (the campaigning for Trump, etc.) for the H-1B stuff.  I’ve seen his tweets where he says America doesn’t have enough skilled engineers for him.  He believes this stuff and that H-1Bs are vital to the tech industry.  

[BrickHorn 18505]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

25 years later it’s still wild to me that Compaq paid $300mm for Zip2. 
imagine explaining to somebody who was born at any time since the day Zip2 was founded what that company was. 

By that time, Compaq had stopped operating as a PC company and decided to focus on its core business of making dumb decisions.

Edited Saturday at 03:55 PM by BrickHorn

[C-Man 27939]

Real question is can Leon piss off Trump to get deported hisself

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7 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Real question is can Leon piss off Trump to get deported hisself

If Musk Loomers himself as quickly as he appears to be doing, who knows.  Loomer probably knows how to read the room a little better than Musk at least.

Musk doesn't get that people look down upon him for this.

 

[C-Man 27939]

I wish Elon sourced his ketamine from the same place Matthew Perry did

[Francisco 2.0 32736]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/28/elon-musk-germany-afd-party

Elon Musk pens German newspaper opinion piece supporting far-right AfD party

Billionaire Trump adviser said his ‘significant investments’ in the country justified his wading into German politics

 

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The tech entrepreneur and close adviser to Donald Trump Elon Musk has taken a stunning new public step in his support for the far-right Germanpolitical party Alternative for Germany (AfD), publishing a supportive guest opinion piece for the country’s Welt am Sonntag newspaper that has prompted the commentary editor to resign in protest.

The commentary piece in German was launched online on Saturday ahead of being published on Sunday in the flagship paper of the Axel Springer media group, which also owns the US politics news site Politico.

 

 

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Musk uses populist and personal language to try to deny AfD’s extremist bent and the piece expands on his post on the social media platform X that he owns, on which he last week claimed that “only the AfD can save Germany”.

Translated, Musk’s piece said: “The portrayal of the AfD as rightwing extremist is clearly false, considering that Alice Weidel, the party’s leader, has a same-sex partner from Sri Lanka! Does that sound like Hitler to you? Please!”

Germany’s domestic intelligence agency has classified the AfD at the national level as a suspected extremism case since 2021.

 

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Shortly after the piece was published online, the editor of the opinion section, Eva Marie Kogel, used the US tech mogul’s own platform to post on X that she had submitted her resignation.

“I always enjoyed heading the opinion department at Welt and Wams. Today a text by Elon Musk appeared in Welt am Sonntag. Yesterday I submitted my resignation after printing,” she posted.

 

Spoiler

She included a link to the Musk commentary article.

The AfD has a strong anti-immigration stance and, like incoming president Donald Trump in relation to the US, is calling for mass deportations from Germany. Earlier in December, Musk not only posted in favor of AfD but the party’s hard line on immigration appeared to resonate with the incoming US vice-president, JD Vance, MSNBC reported.

Senior Welt Group figures weighed in on Saturday.

“Democracy and journalism thrive on freedom of expression. This includes dealing with polarising positions and classifying them journalistically,” the newspaper’s editor-in-chief designate, Jan Philipp Burgard, and Ulf Poschardt, who takes over as publisher on 1 January, told Reuters.

They said discussion about Musk’s piece, which had about 340 comments several hours after it was published, was “very revealing”.

Underneath Musk’s commentary, the newspaper published a response by Burgard.

“Musk’s diagnosis is correct, but his therapeutic approach, that only the AfD can save Germany, is fatally false,” he wrote, referencing the AfD’s desire to leave the European Union and seek rapprochement with Russia as well as appease China.

The AfD backing from Musk, who also defended his right to weigh in on German politics due to his “significant investments”, comes as Germans are set to vote on 23 February after a coalition government led by the German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, collapsed late this fall.

The AfD is running second in opinion polls and might be able to thwart either a centre-right or centre-left majority, but Germany’s mainstream, more centrist parties have pledged to shun any support from the AfD at the national level.

 

Edited Saturday at 05:05 PM by Francisco 2.0

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[Gatorubet 30921]

30 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Hatred for dad happens about a year and a half after monkey rides are outgrown. 

[Bozo_Casanova 27041]

6 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

By that time, Compaq had stopped operating as a PC company and decided to focus on its core business of making dumb decisions.

Somewhere Ekhard Pfeiffer is revving his engine angrily at one of his own employees for crossing the street on foot. 

[BrickHorn 18505]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Somewhere Ekhard Pfeiffer is revving his engine angrily at one of his own employees for crossing the street on foot. 

…but only after reading a McKinsey report recommending that he do so.

Edited Saturday at 11:35 PM by BrickHorn

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9 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

25 years later it’s still wild to me that Compaq paid $300mm for Zip2. 
imagine explaining to somebody who was born at any time since the day Zip2 was founded what that company was. 

ZIMA!

[aggie08 21887]

2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Hatred for dad happens about a year and a half after monkey rides are outgrown. 

Shit. I better start doing some squats.

[Fudge Nuggets 19540]

On 12/27/2024 at 7:43 AM, Biff Tannen said:

This is my working theory, along with covid. I followed him really closely around when I first got my model 3 in 2018 and he was relatively normal back then. Grimes combined with Covid completely broke his brain. 

Well that and he’s a whacked out junkie. 

[Pig Bellmont 8894]

4 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

That is the saddest thing I’ve seen 

[956 Worldwide 35700]

8 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

That is the saddest thing I’ve seen 

The universe has conspired to make the richest man also completely and utterly unlikeable.  He’s a fairy tale character, his life seems completely miserable TBH.