Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[DefinitelyNotHollywoodColt 12301]

56 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

In my career, I've witnessed some poor leaders order subject matter experts to make a particular tech change. Many times it's a reactionary request. If the SMEs think it's a bad idea, they will initially push back by explaining why the idea creates downstream problems. The leader was bad because they 100% ignored the feedback and required the immediate change. 

Do that a handful of times, and the SME will stop providing valuable feedback. It's how you steam over your own towline.

If you just want yes-men on your team, you better be 100% right all the time.

Imagine the boss man saying “hey, we should respond to all press inquiries with a poop emoji.”

Then imagine the quality of employees that stick around after that.

He’s rolling with a skeleton staff of retards.

Let’s see how it works out!

[Blotto 24021]

56 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If you just want yes-men on your team, you better be 100% right all the time

And the types of leaders that want to surround themselves with yes-men are not usually the type to get a lot of things right. 

[Brisketexan 106899]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

In my career, I've witnessed some poor leaders order subject matter experts to make a particular tech change. Many times it's a reactionary request. If the SMEs think it's a bad idea, they will initially push back by explaining why the idea creates downstream problems. The leader was bad because they 100% ignored the feedback and required the immediate change. 

Do that a handful of times, and the SME will stop providing valuable feedback. It's how you steam over your own towline.

If you just want yes-men on your team, you better be 100% right all the time.

 

7 minutes ago, Blotto said:

And the types of leaders that want to surround themselves with yes-men are not usually the type to get a lot of things right. 

Anybody with more than a millisecond of experience with organizations of any size know these things to be rock-solid truth.....yet Elmo's stans insist that when he follows the exact failure pattern that all of us have seen before with respect to other people and organizations, well.......

[Francisco 2.0 32595]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm no math whiz, but that's flat-out unsustainable.

 

On the other hand, he's turning Twitter into what he wants it to be (the social media version of The Daily Stormer), he owns the platform so in theory he doesn't need the revenue (wealthiest person in the world, right?) and given how the tax code is setup, he probably can write off some of this as a loss.

 

 

[Brisketexan 106899]

Just now, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

On the other hand, he's turning Twitter into what he wants it to be (the social media version of The Daily Stormer), he owns the platform so in theory he doesn't need the revenue (wealthiest person in the world, right?) and given how the tax code is setup, he probably can write off some of this as a loss.

 

 

Oh, there's definitely that.  If he wanted to burn $44 billion to create a platform where he can get his ego stroked relentlessly, then....great spending choice.  Seriously, if what makes you happy is stacks of money on fire, and you have the stacks of money to burn, then more power to you.

Just don't tell me it's brilliant business.  Call it what it is: a $44 billion ego trip of a fragile narcissist.

[Celery Man 21098]

the explanation where destroying the business value of twitter is somehow intentional is the only one that is consistent with the idea that Elon Musk is particularly smart or good at business

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26 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

the explanation where destroying the business value of twitter is somehow intentional is the only one that is consistent with the idea that Elon Musk is particularly smart or good at business

Oh, he's good at destroying things.

And he's good at reducing costs, such as getting rid of LIDARs from his cars.

Sure, instead of twitter, he could have bought Hyundai or Kia and worked to convert them to electric and increase his market share and improve the Tesla lineup and be ready for when the major ICE automakers fully dive into electric, and then used the left over billions to make a brand-new platform on X.com  But that's somebody who is really forward-thinking.

Better to back yourself into having to buy twitter, then kill off its primary revenue, make it less desirable to casual users, and drive away many power users.

[Neonmoon 38130]

48 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

On the other hand, he's turning Twitter into what he wants it to be (the social media version of The Daily Stormer), he owns the platform so in theory he doesn't need the revenue (wealthiest person in the world, right?) and given how the tax code is setup, he probably can write off some of this as a loss.

This is incorrect. He does need the revenue 

He borrowed 13 Billion to buy Twitter. The rest he raised by selling Tesla stock. (Which didn’t help Tesla). 

Twitter operating costs and expenses are roughly 1.3 billion per year. He can’t just use it as a playtoy 
 

[Brisketexan 106899]

19 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

This is incorrect. He does need the revenue 

He borrowed 13 Billion to buy Twitter. The rest he raised by selling Tesla stock. (Which didn’t help Tesla). 

Twitter operating costs and expenses are roughly 1.3 billion per year. He can’t just use it as a playtoy 
 

Sure he can.  All he has to do is burn through more of his Tesla stock, further harming Tesla.

If your goals are "feed my massive narcissist ego by getting the adoration of the most loathsome, pathetic creatures on earth....damn the costs!", well, he can meet those goals.  The "damn the costs" part there is doing the heavy lifting.  If he hamstrings Tesla in the process, so what?  Catturd slobbers all over his knob, and that's what REALLY matters.

[Blotto 24021]

24 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

This is incorrect. He does need the revenue 

He borrowed 13 Billion to buy Twitter. The rest he raised by selling Tesla stock. (Which didn’t help Tesla). 

Twitter operating costs and expenses are roughly 1.3 billion per year. He can’t just use it as a playtoy 
 

His net worth usually fluctuates by more than $1.3 billion daily. He could lose 90% of his net worth and still be worth $10B+ billion dollars. He can and will use Twitter as a playtoy. I'm not saying its how I would use my billions, but he can easily lose the entirety of his twitter investment and it wouldn't really matter. Will he piss off some of his other investors, sure. But Elon doesnt give a fuck about anyone other than Elon. The value of  his holdings in Tesla and to a lesser extent SpaceX are the significant investments in his "portfolio".

Edited July 3, 2023 by Blotto

[MrBig 5638]

1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

On the other hand, he's turning Twitter into what he wants it to be (the social media version of The Daily Stormer), he owns the platform so in theory he doesn't need the revenue (wealthiest person in the world, right?) and given how the tax code is setup, he probably can write off some of this as a loss.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Sure he can.  All he has to do is burn through more of his Tesla stock, further harming Tesla.

He owns 13% of Tesla stock, so there is a limit on things.  Plus, he has to be careful - if he sells too much Tesla stock, it devalues what he has left and he'll piss everybody off, and be removed from CEO just like he was with PayPal. They won't wait on him to go on a honeymoon to Australia either.

5 minutes ago, Blotto said:

His net worth usually fluctuates by more than $1.3 billion daily. He could lose 90% of his net worth and still be worth $10B+ billion dollars. He can and will use Twitter as a playtoy. I'm not saying its how I would use my billions, but he can easily lose the entirety of his twitter investment and it wouldn't really matter. Will he piss off some of his other investors, sure. But Elon doesnt give a fuck about anyone other than Elon. The value of  his holdings in Tesla and to a lesser extent SpaceX are the significant investments in his "portfolio".

SpaceX isn't publicly-traded.  And Tesla is on a timer of sorts - everybody is rolling out EVs, or will be.

At the very least, the twitter purchase has really dug into what financial resources he can muster for future investments in the future - how many companies/investment firms/banks are going to want to get involved with him if he makes another expensive acquisition in the future?

[Brisketexan 106899]

Just now, atomheartbevo said:

He owns 13% of Tesla stock, so there is a limit on things.  Plus, he has to be careful - if he sells too much Tesla stock, it devalues what he has left and he'll piss everybody off, and be removed from CEO just like he was with PayPal. They won't wait on him to go on a honeymoon to Australia either.

You think he gives a fuck?  There are Catturds out there to impress!  

Yes, he may well "blow it all"* on this entirely ego-driven and ego-feeding enterprise.  And that's okay with him, because this long ago escaped being anything rational.

 

* Even if he "blows it all," the collapse will still result in him having billions of dollars in net worth. Even $3-5 billion is still a shitload of money.

[Post Oak 20568]

I was driving passed the gigafactory in Austin the other day and had a thought. 

What does Tesla look like in 10 years.  Their moat is gone.  A not insignificant portion of Tesla buyers are turned off by him. The people he's appealing too think driving an EV make you a socialist lib. He can be removed but is that a positive or negative for the brand short-term?

I don't really have a good idea.

[Blotto 24021]

8 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

SpaceX isn't publicly-traded.  And Tesla is on a timer of sorts - everybody is rolling out EVs, or will be.

At the very least, the twitter purchase has really dug into what financial resources he can muster for future investments in the future - how many companies/investment firms/banks are going to want to get involved with him if he makes another expensive acquisition in the future?

Last estimate of valuation I saw for SpaceX was $150B and he owns like 45%. They will IPO, and my guess is he could easily sell off portions of that stake in private markets pre-IPO should he so choose. But it doesn't really matter. When your worth is in the hundreds of billions of dollars range, losing 20% of your net worth has no tangible affect on your life, and it wont change his behavior.  An additional $1.3 billion loss a year on Twitter is insignificant when his other investments will fluctuate up/down $50-100B over that same time. It is a play toy.

I do agree with you that outside investors may be more leery to get involved with him, but even then the big banks cant help themselves when it comes to the richest man on the planet. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13731]

22 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

I was driving passed the gigafactory in Austin the other day and had a thought. 

What does Tesla look like in 10 years.  Their moat is gone.  A not insignificant portion of Tesla buyers are turned off by him. The people he's appealing too think driving an EV make you a socialist lib. He can be removed but is that a positive or negative for the brand short-term?

I don't really have a good idea.

A few years ago, I had decided that my next vehicle would definitely be a Tesla. Elon's recent antics have completely changed my mind. I worry too much that the wrong person pisses him off, and he locks people out of the vehicle if they don't subscribe to a new, unnecessary Tesla service.

I know that my hesitation with Tesla doesn't even remotely impact him/them but I also don't think that I'm the only one.

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32 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

You think he gives a fuck?  There are Catturds out there to impress!  

I do actually.  Peter Thiel and the others moving against him and booting him out at PayPal humiliated him in a way that nobody else has. It's why, to this day, with the companies he runs/owns, he tries to make sure that nobody can remove him as CEO against his wishes.

With Tesla though, he's down to 13% of the stock and his Twitter actions are negatively affecting it. You can't tell me that there are investors who would like somebody else at the helm (especially since he hates advertising for Tesla, and the continued price cuts, and the continued lack of innovation design-wise - that CyberTruck shit could hurt them a lot).

7 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Last estimate of valuation I saw for SpaceX was $150B and he owns like 45%. They will IPO, and my guess is he could easily sell off portions of that stake in private markets pre-IPO should he so choose. But it doesn't really matter. When your worth is in the hundreds of billions of dollars range, losing 20% of your net worth has no tangible affect on your life, and it wont change his behavior.  An additional $1.3 billion loss a year on Twitter is insignificant when his other investments will fluctuate up/down $50-100B over that same time. It is a play toy.

He's down below 45% ownership of SpaceX, but does have around 75% of the voting power.  Going public would reduce both of those, and he may not want to do that.

7 minutes ago, Blotto said:

I do agree with you that outside investors may be more leery to get involved with him, but even then the big banks cant help themselves when it comes to the richest man on the planet. 

He was involved with SpaceX/Tesla from their earlier days.  Twitter is the first time we've seen him truly take over a really mature company, and he's run it into the ground in less than half a year. I can't imagine that outside investors will be keen to help him do that in the future, especially since he still doesn't understand what the product is and what the customer is.

[HonkeyVape 107]

31 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

I was driving passed the gigafactory in Austin the other day and had a thought. 

What does Tesla look like in 10 years.  Their moat is gone.  A not insignificant portion of Tesla buyers are turned off by him. The people he's appealing too think driving an EV make you a socialist lib. He can be removed but is that a positive or negative for the brand short-term?

I don't really have a good idea.

I posted something a few pages back, but they are going to be a battery and gas station business with a little bit of EV's. Getting GM and Ford to adopt and recognize their charging standard last month was about as hugely an underrated business move as could have happened-- I think the adults running the show probably are stewarding Tesla as well as they can while Elon is goofing around with Twitter and cage fight memes, even though most think that Elon is still involved.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13731]

Australian firm suing Twitter for non-payment of work to a total of $600K. CNN couldn't reach out to Twitter as they no longer have a media relations group/person.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/03/tech/australia-twitter-lawsuit-hnk-intl/index.html

 

[tomahawk dunk 375]

It is really interesting to watch all of this and I’m curious as to how things will play out over the next 5, 10, 15 years.

Will he go Howard Hughes style crazy or will he go a different direction?

[NoName 17148]

Hannah Murphy, reporting for The Financial Times:

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Twitter’s new chief executive, Linda Yaccarino, is preparing a series of measures to bring back advertisers who had abandoned the platform under Elon Musk’s ownership, including introducing a video ads service, wooing more celebrities, and raising headcount.

The former NBCUniversal advertising head, who started as chief executive on June 5, is seeking to launch full-screen, sound-on video ads that would be shown to users scrolling through Twitter’s new short-video feed, according to three people familiar with the situation.

 

 

[Francisco 2.0 32595]

1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

I was driving passed the gigafactory in Austin the other day and had a thought. 

What does Tesla look like in 10 years.  Their moat is gone.  A not insignificant portion of Tesla buyers are turned off by him. The people he's appealing too think driving an EV make you a socialist lib. He can be removed but is that a positive or negative for the brand short-term?

I don't really have a good idea.

 

Tesla's future isn't cars, or batteries, or solar rooftops.  It's the charging network.  Now that every manufacturer is standardizing on the Tesla charger, that's the end game.

Royalties (?) from the Tesla charger, the network itself, the prices they can charge for people to get a fill up and so on.

 

 

 

 

 

[bolverk 30325]

23 minutes ago, NoName said:

Hannah Murphy, reporting for The Financial Times:

 

Full-screen, pop-up ads WITH SOUND?

[hornian 5294]

10 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Tesla's future isn't cars, or batteries, or solar rooftops.  It's the charging network.  Now that every manufacturer is standardizing on the Tesla charger, that's the end game.

Royalties (?) from the Tesla charger, the network itself, the prices they can charge for people to get a fill up and so on.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes and no. 

Tesla has a huge head start with the supercharger network, although it will take both hardware and software upgrades to make it work with other non-Tesla vehicles. They will continue to expand/retrofit, and because they are already there they will be a big piece of the charging revenue stream for years/decades to come. Ford and GM have announced they aren't going to build their own network, and Tesla will get an  increase over the next 5ish years (how big remains to be seen - Tesla produced 400k+ vehicles this last quarter, I don't think Ford and GM combined have produced 400K EVs total in their history).

However, the NACS (North American Charging Standard) that Tesla uses, and which Ford, GM, Rivian, etc. have announced they will be using beginning in 2024 - 2025 is an open standard that is royalty free, so anyone can (and will) be able to use it. Electrify America and ChargePoint have already announced the will begin building NACS chargers. Rivian has their own network they are building out (it is aimed more at places like National Parks and such) which they have announced will be switching over. While Ford and GM have said they're happy to let other people do the buildout, tesla won't be getting money from the other networks that are built out.

I think it's a savvy business move, but it's not like Elon just set up Tesla for a perpetual revenue stream from all charging in North America. 

Edited July 3, 2023 by hornian

[HonkeyVape 107]

18 minutes ago, hornian said:

Yes and no. 

Tesla has a huge head start with the supercharger network, although it will take both hardware and software upgrades to make it work with other non-Tesla vehicles. They will continue to expand/retrofit, and because they are already there they will be a big piece of the charging revenue stream for years/decades to come. Ford and GM have announced they aren't going to build their own network, and Tesla will get an  increase over the next 5ish years (how big remains to be seen - Tesla produced 400k+ vehicles this last quarter, I don't think Ford and GM combined have produced 400K EVs total in their history).

However, the NACS (North American Charging Standard) that Tesla uses, and which Ford, GM, Rivian, etc. have announced they will be using beginning in 2024 - 2025 is an open standard that is royalty free, so anyone can (and will) be able to use it. Electrify America and ChargePoint have already announced the will begin building NACS chargers. Rivian has their own network they are building out (it is aimed more at places like National Parks and such) which they have announced will be switching over. While Ford and GM have said they're happy to let other people do the buildout, tesla won't be getting money from the other networks that are built out.

I think it's a savvy business move, but it's not like Elon just set up Tesla for a perpetual revenue stream from all charging in North America. 

Ben Thompson said:

"It does seem notable that Ford, GM, and Rivian all had to announce agreements with Tesla, not just adoption, and that various reports say that the adapters they will send to current owners are locked to their vehicle. That definitely suggests a licensing regime. Which, I would note, fits with Tesla’s patent pledge, which explicitly rules out directly competing designs or products, of which the NCAS adapter surely is one."

[NoName 17148]

45 minutes ago, hornian said:

Tesla has a huge head start with the supercharger network, although it will take both hardware and software upgrades to make it work with other non-Tesla vehicles. They will continue to expand/retrofit, and because they are already there they will be a big piece of the charging revenue stream for years/decades to come. Ford and GM have announced they aren't going to build their own network, and Tesla will get an  increase over the next 5ish years (how big remains to be seen - Tesla produced 400k+ vehicles this last quarter, I don't think Ford and GM combined have produced 400K EVs total in their history).

the issue they have is that Ford and GM are ramping up QUICKLY, much faster than Tesla did. and they are going to keep ramping up. demand is already softening heavily for Tesla as it is, everyone else is raising prices and Tesla is cutting them how many times in Q1 and Q2 already now?

GM's goal is to be producing a 200k / year run rate by end of this year (50k in Q4) after delivering 39k total in 2022.

Ford is going to be at a run rate of 150k Lightning and 210k Mach E by the end of the year, so 90k a quarter of just those two. i think their goal is 360k EVs for the year? in 2022 they sold a little over 61k total.

their industry best per vehicle margin is shrinking. their enormous industry lead is shrinking. they don't appear to be doing much to bring in new buyers. the cybertruck is so far behind and not catching up. they haven't release a new model in how long? their Miles Bron-ass CEO is out here shitposting through it and lighting money on fire at Twitter while Tesla continues to struggle. idk what the end game is here for them or what their direction is but their cars no longer have the ability to hit even Level 4 or Level 5 Self Driving thanks to the gigabrain decision to focus on cameras alone - oh yeah and everyone with a pulse is sniffing around FSD as everything up to fraud anyway.

edit: more info on margin issues from Bloomberg:

There is one unsettling element from Sunday’s numbers: Tesla is still producing more vehicles than it is selling. While the gap is narrowing, this marks the fifth quarter in a row of excess production, for a cumulative total of just over 91,000 undelivered vehicles. At a notional cost of about $38,000 each — the implied average production cost in the first quarter — that’s almost $3.5 billion of finished inventory, with about $520 million added in the second quarter.

That matters because a surge in inventory fueled the big jump in working capital that savaged Tesla’s free cash flow in the first quarter. While there is unlikely to be as significant an increase this quarter, the continuing build-up of unsold vehicles will keep a lid on margins and cash flow. It also conflicts with the long-standing idea that Tesla is supply-constrained, which is doubly important given how much new manufacturing capacity is coming online.

Edited July 3, 2023 by NoName

[NoName 17148]

christ, Twitter now has dudes out here posting Spiderman No Way Home and dude is soliciting for more movie recs

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/3/23782965/the-latest-hit-on-twitter-a-full-length-upload-of-spider-man-no-way-home

as of right now the post:

has 21m views like 18 hours.

Edited July 3, 2023 by NoName

[royiv 9791]

18 minutes ago, NoName said:

chris, Twitter now has dudes out here posting Spiderman No Way Home and dude is soliciting for more movie recs

https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/3/23782965/the-latest-hit-on-twitter-a-full-length-upload-of-spider-man-no-way-home

as of right now the post:

has 21m views like 18 hours.

How the hell is that still up? Is everyone at Twitter taking the day off? I can't imagine the folks at Sony and Marvel are happy about this.

[Celery Man 21098]

hahahahahaha jtfc

 

I mean, at Spiderman but also at full screen sound video ads in your twitter experience lo fucking l

[NoName 17148]

6 minutes ago, royiv said:

How the hell is that still up? Is everyone at Twitter taking the day off? I can't imagine the folks at Sony and Marvel are happy about this.

they DGAF. the verge article has been up for well over an hour. that original tweet is still up.

oh yeah, and this exists: https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/14/23761680/twitter-music-lawsuit-nmpa-copyright-infringement

 

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The National Music Publishers' Association (NMPA) is suing Twitter on behalf of 17 music publishers representing the biggest artists in the business. The lawsuit, filed in federal court in Tennessee, claims the company "fuels its business with countless infringing copies of musical compositions, violating Publishers' and others' exclusive rights under copyright law."

It also has a list of 1,700 or so songs (included below) that the publishers say have been included in multiple copyright notices to Twitter without the company doing anything about it, asking the court to fine Twitter up to $150,000 for each violation.

The issue predates Musk's $44 billion purchase of Twitter last year. The New York Times cites unnamed employees saying Twitter had cut a music licensing deal because of how much it would cost, which it said could amount to over $100 million per year — the Times also reported in March that licensing deals between three major labels and Twitter stalled after Musk's takeover last fall.

 

 

[Brisketexan 106899]

6 minutes ago, royiv said:

How the hell is that still up? Is everyone at Twitter taking the day off? I can't imagine the folks at Sony and Marvel are happy about this.

Oh, I'm sure they sent Twitter some rather urgent and serious communications.

Which Twitter responded to only with an automated poop emoji.

 

If Elon wants to get Twitter slapped with an injunction barring it from openly hosting pirated content (including enforcement mechanisms as severe as shutting down Twitter if it continues), then this is exactly the path Elon should follow.

[atomheartbevo 90650]

2 minutes ago, NoName said:

chris, Twitter now has dudes out here posting Spiderman No Way Home and dude is soliciting for more movie recs

Almost a full 24 hours, and a reminder that requests sent to the various twitter accounts results in a poop emoji.  

Disney is worth around $200 billion with 220,000 employees.  Sony is worth around $220 billion, with 109,000 employees.

I'm sure out of those 330,000 or so employees, they have some lawyers.

[NoName 17148]

9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Oh, I'm sure they sent Twitter some rather urgent and serious communications.

Which Twitter responded to only with an automated poop emoji.

 

If Elon wants to get Twitter slapped with an injunction barring it from openly hosting pirated content (including enforcement mechanisms as severe as shutting down Twitter if it continues), then this is exactly the path Elon should follow.

look i get how you miss tweets - it happens - but the verge has an article out NOW and has been out for over an hour. that's everything up to and including professional malpractice to leave it up.

 

just went to it to look, and in the last ~10 min they have finally disabled it. after 19+ hours up and 21+ million views + 233k likes.

so it's in the 99+th percentile of video views and likes and they don't just have someone watching that shit to see if someone is posting shrek, or spiderman or mario movie even though they have had issues with this for the last 7 months+?

[atomheartbevo 90650]

13 minutes ago, NoName said:

so it's in the 99+th percentile of video views and likes and they don't just have someone watching that shit to see if someone is posting shrek, or spiderman or mario movie even though they have had issues with this for the last 7 months+?

You have to cut them some slack, the two dudes in the basement who can remove that video just so happen to be the two dudes who were also trying to get tweetdeck back up and running, along with some other services.

[royiv 9791]

14 minutes ago, NoName said:

look i get how you miss tweets - it happens - but the verge has an article out NOW and has been out for over an hour. that's everything up to and including professional malpractice to leave it up.

 

just went to it to look, and in the last ~10 min they have finally disabled it. after 19+ hours up and 21+ million views + 233k likes.

so it's in the 99+th percentile of video views and likes and they don't just have someone watching that shit to see if someone is posting shrek, or spiderman or mario movie even though they have had issues with this for the last 7 months+?

You would think that they would some algorithm that triggers a review of a tweet that has two hours of HD content before it gets to 20+ million views.

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

You have to cut them some slack, the two dudes in the basement who can remove that video just so happen to be the two dudes who were also trying to get tweetdeck back up and running, along with some other services.

They were busy watching Spiderman No Way Home.

[Brisketexan 106899]

6 minutes ago, royiv said:

You would think that they would some algorithm that triggers a review of a tweet that has two hours of HD content before it gets to 20+ million views.

"Algorithm."

Meanwhile, when informed that his site hosted a pirated film for millions of views for hours upon hours, Elon's response will be either:

"Concerning."

or

"Looking into it."

[Sawbonz 28222]

6 hours ago, Post Oak said:

I was driving passed the gigafactory in Austin the other day and had a thought. 

What does Tesla look like in 10 years.  Their moat is gone.  A not insignificant portion of Tesla buyers are turned off by him. The people he's appealing too think driving an EV make you a socialist lib. He can be removed but is that a positive or negative for the brand short-term?

I don't really have a good idea.

If he’s smart, they will be an electricity delivery/storage company. He is not smart though. imagine if he had spent that 44 billion on supercharger station infrastructure and solar farms across the US. 

[Francisco 2.0 32595]

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-07-03/insider-trading-is-better-from-home

 

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Well, look, if I were the newly hired chief executive officer of a social media company, and if the directors and shareholders who brought me in as CEO had told me that my main mission was to turn around the company’s precarious financial situation by improving our position with advertisers, and if I spent my first few weeksreassuring advertisers and rebuilding relationships and talking up our site’s unique audience and powerful engagement, and then one day my head of software engineering came to me and said “hey boss, too many people were too engaged with too many posts, so I had to limit everyone’s ability to view posts on our site, just FYI,” I would … probably … fire ... him?

 

 

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I mean I suppose I might ask questions like “Is this because of some technological limitation on our system? Is it because you were monkeying with the code without understanding it? Is it because you tried to stop people from reading the site without logging in, 3and messed up and stopped them from reading the site even when they logged in? Is it because you fired and demoralized too many engineers so no one was left to keep the systems running normally? Is it because you forgot to pay the cloud bills? Is it because deep down you don’t like it when people read posts on our site and you want to stop them, or you don’t like relying on ad revenue and want to sabotage my ability to sell ads?” Those are all interesting questions, and I suppose having the answers would help my new head of software engineering fix whatever this guy broke. But no matter what the answers are, this guy’s gotta go. If you are in charge of the software engineers at a social media site, and you make it so that people can’t read the site, that’s bad.

 

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Anyway something very funny happened at Twitter this weekend:

 

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Twitter began limiting how many posts users can read on its platform, an unusual move that came as owner Elon Musk says he is fighting companies trying to use its data for developing artificial intelligence programs. 

Musk on Saturday detailed the temporary changes, which involved limiting unverified accounts to reading just 600 posts a day while verified accounts—those paying a monthly subscription—can read 6,000 posts daily. He later announced multiple increases to the number of allowed posts.

“To address extreme levels of data scraping & system manipulation, we’ve applied the following temporary limits,” Musk tweeted. …

“It’s unprecedented as far as I know since the time of” internet bulletin boards, Jason Goldman, a former Twitter executive who has been critical of Musk’s stewardship, said about the limits. “To set limits so low that it renders the site unusable to average users is just the latest in the purely extractive approach the new ownership is taking.”

 

 

Oh man! Musk, the head of Twitter's software and servers teams, is gonna be in so much trouble when his boss, Twitter CEO Linda Yaccarino, gets to the office today.

Oh I kid, I kid, but what a weird job that must be. The CEO job I mean. The software-and-servers job isn’t that weird — he’s in charge of a website — but he manages to make it weird.

 

 

 

[NoName 17148]

Trying to watch a trailer for some show. They made the decision to hard code subs, which is fine. I can't make the video scrubber go away. It's permanently stuck there. It is in front of the subs.

What is this? 2002?

[Firemans4Horn 18533]

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TweetDeck isgoing to be blue subscribed/pay only by the end of the month.  
https://www.theverge.com/2023/7/3/23783092/twitter-tweetdeck-new-preview-force-legacy-apis

Musk and the new CEO kept staff and advertisers in the dark about the rate limiting

https://archive.is/mQ1KY

Meanwhile, rumors that Meta will have their Twitter clone out this next week or two.

[Schulz2.0 29280]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Meanwhile, rumors that Meta will have their Twitter clone out this next week or two.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/04/threads-app-instagram-twitter-competitor-meta-to-launch-rival

[Schulz2.0 29280]

Toyota claiming they've made a big technological breakthrough on a solid state EV battery that would have a 745 mile range and charge in 10 minutes.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jul/04/toyota-claims-battery-breakthrough-electric-cars

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1 hour ago, Schulz2.0 said:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jul/04/threads-app-instagram-twitter-competitor-meta-to-launch-rival

Holy shit it’s actually in the iPhone App Store.  

[Francisco 2.0 32595]

33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Holy shit it’s actually in the iPhone App Store.  

 

 

 

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Twitter:

[NoName 17148]

35 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

Elon is saying that?

[Francisco 2.0 32595]

Yeah, Zuckerberg sucks, but Elon needs bitch slapped over his Twitter moves with a valid competitor.  Blue Sky and the like may get there someday, but they aren't ready.  Meta can handle the load until something better comes along:

 

https://www.threads.net

 

 

[Chooky 13340]

This clown saga just continues to get more and more silly. It's cheap slapstick at this point. If Yakety Sax isn't strongly copy protected it should be played every time Elon enters a room.