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4 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Even if you came up with a cool new revolutionary truck, and actually succeeded in making it, calling it "cybertruck" is something only a dumbfuck or a six year old would do.

So....will cross you off my waitlist for my new SuperAwesomeMegaTruck5000 product.  Great, more to go around to super cool alpha dudes.

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6 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Lego precision for a "truck".  Also, a website for Cybertruck Owners exist; yet, no one owns one yet.

 

https://electrek.co/2023/08/23/elon-musk-lego-cybertruck-quality-leaked-tesla-email/

 

 

 

 

 

 

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n the past, Tesla has often been criticized for its fit and finishes. However, it is generally accepted that the quality has improved over the years, and now Tesla’s latest products, like the Model Y, receive better reviews in that regard.

In 2018 Musk sent a similar email to Tesla employees with the piece below:

 

Precision

Most of the design tolerances of the Model 3 are already better than any other car in the world. Soon, they will all be better. This is not enough. We will keep going until the Model 3 build precision is a factor of ten better than any other car in the world. I am not kidding.

Our car needs to be designed and built with such accuracy and precision that, if an owner measures dimensions, panel gaps and flushness, and their measurements don’t match the Model 3 specs, it just means that their measuring tape is wrong.

Some parts suppliers will be unwilling or unable to achieve this level of precision. I understand that this will be considered an unreasonable request by some. That’s ok, there are lots of other car companies with much lower standards. They just can’t work with Tesla.

 

Certainly Tesla has improved since 2018 in their panel gaps and precision but clearly they are nowhere near these lofty goals.

Tesla is looking to launch the official Cybertruck production in the coming weeks for a delivery event by the end of the quarter.

 

 

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He’s supposed to go into production this year, so … <checks calendar> … less than 4 months. And he’s just now making this comment? WTF?!?!?

Plus he’s comparing a truck, with thousands of parts to a coke can (literally 3 pieces of metal) and Legos (which are individual bricks)?

Finally, he clearly doesn’t understand anything about manufacturing engineering. Everything doesn’t need to be sub 10 micron accuracy, just the pieces where it matters. Stuff that’s matters in the fit/feel. Making everything that level of precision is unnecessary expensive on parts that don’t matter. Hey check out my sub-10 micron accurate windshield washer reservoir!!

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This “sub 10 micron accuracy” shit is Elon planting the seed for why the cybertruck will never be produced on a massive scale. It’s not that it’s a stupid fucking truck, it’s because suppliers can’t fulfill his high genius design standards.

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n the past, Tesla has often been criticized for its fit and finishes. However, it is generally accepted that the quality has improved over the years, and now Tesla’s latest products, like the Model Y, receive better reviews in that regard.

In 2018 Musk sent a similar email to Tesla employees with the piece below:

 

Precision

Most of the design tolerances of the Model 3 are already better than any other car in the world. Soon, they will all be better. This is not enough. We will keep going until the Model 3 build precision is a factor of ten better than any other car in the world. I am not kidding.

Our car needs to be designed and built with such accuracy and precision that, if an owner measures dimensions, panel gaps and flushness, and their measurements don’t match the Model 3 specs, it just means that their measuring tape is wrong.

Some parts suppliers will be unwilling or unable to achieve this level of precision. I understand that this will be considered an unreasonable request by some. That’s ok, there are lots of other car companies with much lower standards. They just can’t work with Tesla.

 

Certainly Tesla has improved since 2018 in their panel gaps and precision but clearly they are nowhere near these lofty goals.

Tesla is looking to launch the official Cybertruck production in the coming weeks for a delivery event by the end of the quarter.

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1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

There’s plenty of room for imprecision and winging it in those endeavors, but LEGOs, man they can’t afford to put up with any shit there!  Too much is on the line!  

LEGO is kind of known for their quality control. Which goes back to Musk doesn’t think his companies have much in the way of quality control.  Which makes perfect sense, given how twitter’s quality control is absolute shit.

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LEGO is kind of known for their quality control. Which goes back to Musk doesn’t think his companies have much in the way of quality control.  Which makes perfect sense, given how twitter’s quality control is absolute shit.

I wonder how LEGO chooses which brick(s) they provide spares of in each set. There's always a few, but they're never the bricks I lose.

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On 8/21/2023 at 12:37 PM, NoName said:

Ronan Farrow posted a long article on Musk.

Elon Musk’s Shadow Rule: How the U.S. government came to rely on the tech billionaire—and is now struggling to rein him in.

https://archive.ph/vjax8

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i have no sympathy for people who choose to put themselves under "unrelenting stress" by working 24 hours a day.

it's one thing when you have to to make ends meet. its another thing when you are one of the richest people in the world and you shitpost at all hours while self medicating by microdosing Special K or whatever the hell he is on these days.

this is Musk in a nutshell - put out a letter for everyone to stop developing AI 6 months while simultaneously putting together his own AI company during those 6 months

 

over all not a really groundbreaking piece from Farrow unfortunately.

This made it into the August 28th New Yorker.  

 

On 8/21/2023 at 1:03 PM, Neonmoon said:

Musk is piece of shit. 

The US should find alternatives to relying on him. 

This this this.  

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4 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

10.3% sold their Tesla (i.e. they bought one) because Tesla didn't offer the style of vehicle needed.  Did these morons not realize what style they were getting when they plopped down the money to begin with?  This world is full of dumbasses.

eh that can be as simple as you had 2 kids but had a 3rd or needed a true 3rd row.

hell needing something with more MPG / flexibility of ICE vs EV would count there too

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Does he ban gamers from Twitter now?

 

"'Bring Back Twitter!' Elon Gets Booed at Video Game Tournament" 

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It seems Elon Musk isn’t very popular in the video game community, at least not among the gamers who gathered for the Valorant World Championship Final in Los Angeles on Saturday. During the event, the camera briefly panned to Musk, who was attending the tournament with one of his sons, as reported by Insider. Immediately, the crowd started booing. 

 

“Where is that from? That can’t be from in here, surely,” one of the event’s commentators asked as the sound of jeers filled the arena. An oblivious Musk appeared on screen for just about four seconds, but the boos continued long after the camera cut back to footage of game play. After around thirty seconds, the mockery settled into a chorus as the audience chanted, “Bring back Twitter.”“Getting booed by Valorant players is like getting wedgies by the anime club in middle school,” one user posted, negging everyone involved.

 

This isn’t the first time a surprise appearance by the world’s most online billionaire went sour. Comedian Dave Chappelle brought Musk on stage at a show in San Francisco last December. The crowd erupted in boos every time Musk tried to speak during the brief and awkward encounter.

 

Musk later tweeted that most people were thrilled to see him, actually. “Technically, it was 90% cheers & 10% boos (except during quiet periods), but, still, that’s a lot of boos, which is a first for me in real life (frequent on Twitter),” Musk posted, contradicting the video evidence.

Elon Musk gets booed by the crowd at Dave Chappelle’s San Francisco show (Part 1 of 4)

 

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2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Why do they still have “twitter” instead of X everywhere? Because it looks like incompetence 

Because they are incompetent.  As mentioned earlier, businesses rebrand and merge all the time, and are somehow able to competently change their branding and websites over, and they do it with much smaller budgets and staffs.

This rebranding scheme feels like Elmo brought in Tesla engineers to look at twitter code and try and do a bunch of "find and replace" actions and then call it a day, whether they hit it all or not.

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https://mashable.com/article/tucker-carlson-x-trump-interview-twitter-video-view-count

No, Tucker Carlson's Trump interview doesn't have 230 million video views on X: Here's how many times it has actually been viewed.

 
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On Wednesday night, former Fox News host Tucker Carlson interviewed former president Donald Trump on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter. Now, Trump and his supporters are claiming that Carlson's video has received hundreds of millions of views on Elon Musk's social media site. That's not the case.

"The Tucker Carlson Interview with me was a BLOCKBUSTER. Could hit 200,000,000 Views, and more!" Donald Trump posted on his social networking platform, Truth Social, on Thursday morning.

Trump later claimed that, at 230 million views, the Carlson video was now: "The Biggest Video on Social Media, EVER, more than double the Super Bowl!" (For context, the 2023 Super Bowl was watched by more than 115 million viewers.)

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On Carlson's interview post on X, the views metric displayed 236 million views, as of the time of publishing, since it went live 21 hours ago.

However, the metric on X is not how many views Carlson's video actually received.

Mashable can report that, as of the publication of this article on Thursday evening, Carlson's Trump interview has received 14.8 million video views on X. 

 

the best part is HOW they know the real video views

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However, some older Android versions of the Twitter app continue to display the public video view metrics on X. Mashable has access to such a version of the app and was able to pull this data from it.

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For example, in July, Carlson brought on controversial right-wing influencer Andrew Tate for an episode. As of publication, that video has 17.9 million views on X. It has 107 million tweet views, or impressions. 

This means that, with less than half the impressions Carlson's Trump interview has received so far, his Tate interview has garnered over 3 million more video views. Carlson's show on X routinely showed impressions of around five to six times more than the actual video views per episode. However, for Carlson's Trump interview, the ratio of impressions to actual video views is nearly 17:1

 

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9 hours ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Does he ban gamers from Twitter now?

 

"'Bring Back Twitter!' Elon Gets Booed at Video Game Tournament" 

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It seems Elon Musk isn’t very popular in the video game community, at least not among the gamers who gathered for the Valorant World Championship Final in Los Angeles on Saturday. During the event, the camera briefly panned to Musk, who was attending the tournament with one of his sons, as reported by Insider. Immediately, the crowd started booing. 

 

“Where is that from? That can’t be from in here, surely,” one of the event’s commentators asked as the sound of jeers filled the arena. An oblivious Musk appeared on screen for just about four seconds, but the boos continued long after the camera cut back to footage of game play. After around thirty seconds, the mockery settled into a chorus as the audience chanted, “Bring back Twitter.”“Getting booed by Valorant players is like getting wedgies by the anime club in middle school,” one user posted, negging everyone involved.

 

This isn’t the first time a surprise appearance by the world’s most online billionaire went sour. Comedian Dave Chappelle brought Musk on stage at a show in San Francisco last December. The crowd erupted in boos every time Musk tried to speak during the brief and awkward encounter.

 

Musk later tweeted that most people were thrilled to see him, actually. “Technically, it was 90% cheers & 10% boos (except during quiet periods), but, still, that’s a lot of boos, which is a first for me in real life (frequent on Twitter),” Musk posted, contradicting the video evidence.

Elon Musk gets booed by the crowd at Dave Chappelle’s San Francisco show (Part 1 of 4)

 

 

"Actually it was 90% cheers." It's almost like he's following a well-trod narcissistic path at this point.

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https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/company/2023/supporting-peoples-right-to-accurate-and-safe-political-discourse-on-x

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Supporting people’s right to accurate and safe political discourse on X

More than half a billion people from around the world gather on X to talk about their interests in real-time, and that includes elections. X enables people to directly engage on important topics with elected representatives, local or national leaders and fellow citizens.

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During elections, X works to get in front of a range of tactics that people use to target the process. To do this we hire the right people, update our policies and evolve our product.

Our people: We’re currently expanding our safety and elections teams to focus on combating manipulation, surfacing inauthentic accounts and closely monitoring the platform for emerging threats.

They fired most/all of those people last fall, but now they are hiring new ones.

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Our policies: We have rules in place to help protect the safety and authenticity of conversations on X. During elections, our Civic Integrity Policy provides an extra layer of protection that is applied for a limited period of time before and during an election. We’re updating this policy to make sure we strike the right balance between tackling the most harmful types of content—those that could intimidate or deceive people into surrendering their right to participate in a civic process—and not censoring political debate.

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The policy will also be aligned with our updated enforcement philosophy, Freedom of Speech, Not Reach. We will add publicly visible labels to posts identified as potentially violating the Civic Integrity Policy, letting people know when their reach has been restricted.

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Building on our commitment to free expression, we are also going to allow political advertising. Starting in the U.S., we’ll continue to apply specific policies to paid-for promoted political posts. This will include prohibiting the promotion of false or misleading content, including false or misleading information intended to undermine public confidence in an election, while seeking to preserve free and open political discourse. We’ll also provide a global advertising transparency center so that everyone can review political posts being promoted on X, in addition to robust screening processes to ensure only eligible groups and campaigns are able to advertise.  

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Our product: We continue to scale Community Notes, an innovative tool that empowers a vetted and growing group of people to add context to posts when they see something that could be wrong, misleading or requires another point of view. X shouldn't determine the truthfulness of disputed information; rather, we should empower our users to express their opinions and openly debate during elections, in line with our commitment to protecting freedom of expression.

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Community Notes is available globally with contributors in 44 countries, and is fully open-sourced. We’re already seeing real impact—people are on average 30% less likely to agree with the substance of a post after reading a Community Note about it, and they’re also less likely to reshare it. All promoted posts are eligible for Community Notes, including promoted political posts.

Our work is ongoing. These increased investments in people, policy and product will further ensure our communities have access to open, accurate and safe political discourse on X.

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17 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Elmo has fucked up twitter but one thing he did good is community notes.   They are savage, people are even using against twitter advertisers  

All Elon did was rebrand it. Birdwatch first debuted in 2021.

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introducing-birdwatch-a-community-based-approach-to-misinformation

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Guys....I'm gonna shock you with this take: Elmo will keep his mouth fucking shut about this.  Because, umm, he doesn't give a single fuck about "free speech."  Seriously, he could borrow 10,000 fucks and still have such a massive fuck deficit that he still couldn't give a single fuck about "free speech."  He's a lying narcissist hypocrite.  That's all he is.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Guys....I'm gonna shock you with this take: Elmo will keep his mouth fucking shut about this.  Because, umm, he doesn't give a single fuck about "free speech."  Seriously, he could borrow 10,000 fucks and still have such a massive fuck deficit that he still couldn't give a single fuck about "free speech."  He's a lying narcissist hypocrite.  That's all he is.

So did he pay the legal bills for that trial? Has anyone tried to cash in on that promise?

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https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/tesla-elon-musk-glass-house-doj-sec-investigation-c723166b

 

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Manhattan federal prosecutors are investigating Tesla’s use of company funds on a secret project that had been described internally as a house for Chief Executive Elon Musk, people familiar with the matter said.

The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York has sought information about personal benefits paid to Musk, how much Tesla spent on the project—which called for a spacious glass structure to be built in the Austin, Texas, area—and what it was for, the people said.

 

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The Wall Street Journal was the first to report in July that Tesla board members had investigated whether company resources were misused on the secret effort, known internally as “Project 42,” and whether Musk was personally involved. The outcome of Tesla’s internal investigation couldn’t be learned.

The Securities and Exchange Commission has also opened a civil investigation into Project 42 and is seeking similar information from the company, one of the people said.

The SDNY and SEC investigations are in their early stages and may not lead to formal allegations of wrongdoing.

 

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Tesla didn’t respond to requests for comment on this story or the Journal’s previous reporting about Project 42. Spokesmen for the SEC and the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office declined to comment.

Employees were working on Project 42 last year, and plans called for a glass building to be erected near the automaker’s Austin-area headquarters, the Journal reported. At one point, the building was envisioned in the shape of a twisted hexagon. Other images showed an expansive glass box that appeared to include a residential area.

 

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Tesla lawyers and board members scrutinized the project after employees became concerned about how the company planned to use millions of dollars in specialized glass that it had ordered.

The status of the project and whether the glass was ever delivered to Tesla couldn’t be learned.

Musk has been investing heavily in Texas in recent years, personally relocating to the Lone Star State from California and moving Tesla’s headquarters there. He has lamented California’s rules, calling the state the land of “overregulation, overlitigation, overtaxation.” Texas also offers tax benefits for the world’s wealthiest person: Unlike California, the state doesn’t tax individual income or capital gains.

The electric-vehicle maker now produces its Model Y crossover at its Austin-area factory, which was ramping up production around the time employees were working on Project 42.

Musk and employees of his companies have described a vision for a “utopia” along the Colorado River, the Journal reported earlier this year. Executives at Musk’s Boring Co. have explored incorporating a town in Bastrop County, about 35 miles from Austin, a move that would allow Musk to set his own regulations.

Federal prosecutors also have sought information about the driving range of Tesla’s electric vehicles, people familiar with the matter said. Reuters reported in July that Tesla had inflated the projected distance its vehicles could travel on a single battery charge.

SEC rules require public companies to disclose transactions above $120,000 in which a related party, such as an executive officer, has a material interest.

The regulations also require that any perks or other personal benefits worth more than $10,000 paid to the senior-most executive officers be disclosed to investors. The SEC in recent years has brought a series of civil enforcement actions against public companies, including Hilton Worldwide, over failure to report perks given to CEOs or other officers.

The Justice Department and SEC have also each opened an investigation into whether Tesla misled customers and investors about the performance of its advanced driver-assistance system known as Autopilot.

Tesla and Musk have repeatedly clashed with the SEC since they each paid $20 million in 2018 to settle the agency’s fraud lawsuit, which alleged the CEO misled investors when he tweeted funding was in place to take the automaker private.

In the years since, Musk has tried to unravel the settlement, saying the SEC used the deal to continue peppering Tesla with frivolous demands for information. A federal judge last year denied Musk’s request to vacate the settlement.

In February, a jury in San Francisco rejected investor claims that Musk’s 2018 tweets about potentially taking Tesla private violated federal securities law.

 

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13 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/tesla-elon-musk-glass-house-doj-sec-investigation-c723166b

 

 

 

 

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Tesla lawyers and board members scrutinized the project after employees became concerned about how the company planned to use millions of dollars in specialized glass that it had ordered.

The status of the project and whether the glass was ever delivered to Tesla couldn’t be learned.

Musk has been investing heavily in Texas in recent years, personally relocating to the Lone Star State from California and moving Tesla’s headquarters there. He has lamented California’s rules, calling the state the land of “overregulation, overlitigation, overtaxation.” Texas also offers tax benefits for the world’s wealthiest person: Unlike California, the state doesn’t tax individual income or capital gains.

The electric-vehicle maker now produces its Model Y crossover at its Austin-area factory, which was ramping up production around the time employees were working on Project 42.

Musk and employees of his companies have described a vision for a “utopia” along the Colorado River, the Journal reported earlier this year. Executives at Musk’s Boring Co. have explored incorporating a town in Bastrop County, about 35 miles from Austin, a move that would allow Musk to set his own regulations.

Federal prosecutors also have sought information about the driving range of Tesla’s electric vehicles, people familiar with the matter said. Reuters reported in July that Tesla had inflated the projected distance its vehicles could travel on a single battery charge.

SEC rules require public companies to disclose transactions above $120,000 in which a related party, such as an executive officer, has a material interest.

The regulations also require that any perks or other personal benefits worth more than $10,000 paid to the senior-most executive officers be disclosed to investors. The SEC in recent years has brought a series of civil enforcement actions against public companies, including Hilton Worldwide, over failure to report perks given to CEOs or other officers.

The Justice Department and SEC have also each opened an investigation into whether Tesla misled customers and investors about the performance of its advanced driver-assistance system known as Autopilot.

Tesla and Musk have repeatedly clashed with the SEC since they each paid $20 million in 2018 to settle the agency’s fraud lawsuit, which alleged the CEO misled investors when he tweeted funding was in place to take the automaker private.

In the years since, Musk has tried to unravel the settlement, saying the SEC used the deal to continue peppering Tesla with frivolous demands for information. A federal judge last year denied Musk’s request to vacate the settlement.

In February, a jury in San Francisco rejected investor claims that Musk’s 2018 tweets about potentially taking Tesla private violated federal securities law.

 

 

12 hours ago, Grade of D as in David said:

The fact that this stone throwing mother fucker of all people wants to build himself a glass house bottles the mind.

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