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4 hours ago, NoName said:

Typical Musk Things

can't deliver the Cybertruck because of rain!

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This just cracks me up for more than one reason but the main one is that when I spent some time living in a northern state, I made a pretty good sum from selling my "southern" used car because it was in good shape: properly maintained and most importantly: NO RUST because I had been domiciled where there was no snow and no road salt. Now Elonstans are buying a vehicle that acquires rust (and eventually corrodes) if it gets wet, salt not necessary. Yeesh. Talk about buying an automobile from the carnival midway. Clown show.

 

Also: here is the fact check regarding the airline flights referred to by disingenuous political and billionaire malcontents and dupes (spoilered because it mentions the President and thus may trigger some people who are CR sensitive)
 

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TLDR version:

The federal government transports adult detainees in its custody from one facility to another, or from one U.S. city to another during deportation proceedings.

The vast majority of people on the flights are unaccompanied minors who crossed the border, requested asylum under immigration law, and are being released from federal custody to a parent or sponsor.

Some of these flights happen at night, but they are not covert operations. The same types of flights were done by the Trump administration.

Longer article from same source (PolitiFact)

Republicans campaigning for office are running ads that hammer President Joe Biden’s management of the U.S.-Mexico border. They claim that the administration is using planes to fly "illegal immigrants" around the country.

Republican Tyler Kistner, making his second consecutive campaign for a U.S. House seat in Minnesota, made his claim about skullduggery in the dark.

Biden "has been secretly flying illegal immigrants into communities across the country in the middle of the night," his ad on Facebook and Instagram claimed.

Other Republicans have run social media ads making similar claims. They include Lisa Scheller, who is running for a U.S. House seat in Pennsylvania; Jake Corman, who is running for Pennsylvania governor; U.S. Rep. Randy Weber of Texas, U.S. Sen. Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, and U.S. Rep. Ashley Hinson of Iowa.

Experts said the vast majority of people trying to cross the southern border into the United States are summarily turned back. Exceptions are made for unaccompanied minors, some of whom are transported by planes to be with relatives or approved sponsors — a practice also done during the Trump administration. 

How the process works

Kistner’s campaign did not reply to our requests for information to support his claim.

Two law professors and directors of immigrants’ rights clinics, Fatma Marouf at Texas A&M University School of Law and Nicole Hallett at the University of Chicago Law School, walked us through the process.

Because of a public health law known as Title 42, invoked at the start of the pandemic by the Trump administration and continued under Biden, the vast majority of migrants are turned back and not given the opportunity to make their case for why they should be allowed to stay.

Those encountered at the border who have been allowed to remain are, by and large, unaccompanied minors. They typically are taken first to facilities near the border and then transferred to the temporary custody of the U.S. Health and Human Services department, which eventually places the children with family or sponsors in the U.S. If family members or approved sponsors are not able to arrange transportation, the federal government pays for transportation, including flights. 

The charter flights are not publicized and sometimes are done in the middle of the night to protect the confidentiality of those being transported and to guard against anyone who would interfere with the flights.

Republicans, including Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, have complained that they were not notified about the flights and U.S. House members from New York asked the Biden administration to stop such flights to their state.

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker reported that sometimes the federal government tries to save money by arranging for flights that land late in the evening.

Most unaccompanied minors turn themselves in to border authorities and by doing so are "actually following the rules of seeking asylum," said Marouf.

ICE Air Operations is the air transportation arm of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is responsible for the detention and deportation of immigrants.

 

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6 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

This just cracks me up for more than one reason but the main one is that when I spent some time living in a northern state, I made a pretty good sum from selling my "southern" used car because it was in good shape: properly maintained and most importantly: NO RUST because I had been domiciled where there was no snow and no road salt. Now Elonstans are buying a vehicle that acquires rust (and eventually corrodes) if it gets wet, salt not necessary. Yeesh. Talk about buying an automobile from the carnival midway. Clown show.

 

Also: here is the fact check regarding the airline flights referred to by disingenuous political and billionaire malcontents and dupes (spoilered because it mentions the President and thus may trigger some people who are CR sensitive)
 

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TLDR version:

The federal government transports adult detainees in its custody from one facility to another, or from one U.S. city to another during deportation proceedings.

The vast majority of people on the flights are unaccompanied minors who crossed the border, requested asylum under immigration law, and are being released from federal custody to a parent or sponsor.

Some of these flights happen at night, but they are not covert operations. The same types of flights were done by the Trump administration.

Longer article from same source (PolitiFact)

Republicans campaigning for office are running ads that hammer President Joe Biden’s management of the U.S.-Mexico border. They claim that the administration is using planes to fly "illegal immigrants" around the country.

Republican Tyler Kistner, making his second consecutive campaign for a U.S. House seat in Minnesota, made his claim about skullduggery in the dark.

Biden "has been secretly flying illegal immigrants into communities across the country in the middle of the night," his ad on Facebook and Instagram claimed.

Other Republicans have run social media ads making similar claims. They include Lisa Scheller, who is running for a U.S. House seat in Pennsylvania; Jake Corman, who is running for Pennsylvania governor; U.S. Rep. Randy Weber of Texas, U.S. Sen. Kevin Cramer of North Dakota, and U.S. Rep. Ashley Hinson of Iowa.

Experts said the vast majority of people trying to cross the southern border into the United States are summarily turned back. Exceptions are made for unaccompanied minors, some of whom are transported by planes to be with relatives or approved sponsors — a practice also done during the Trump administration. 

How the process works

Kistner’s campaign did not reply to our requests for information to support his claim.

Two law professors and directors of immigrants’ rights clinics, Fatma Marouf at Texas A&M University School of Law and Nicole Hallett at the University of Chicago Law School, walked us through the process.

Because of a public health law known as Title 42, invoked at the start of the pandemic by the Trump administration and continued under Biden, the vast majority of migrants are turned back and not given the opportunity to make their case for why they should be allowed to stay.

Those encountered at the border who have been allowed to remain are, by and large, unaccompanied minors. They typically are taken first to facilities near the border and then transferred to the temporary custody of the U.S. Health and Human Services department, which eventually places the children with family or sponsors in the U.S. If family members or approved sponsors are not able to arrange transportation, the federal government pays for transportation, including flights. 

The charter flights are not publicized and sometimes are done in the middle of the night to protect the confidentiality of those being transported and to guard against anyone who would interfere with the flights.

Republicans, including Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, have complained that they were not notified about the flights and U.S. House members from New York asked the Biden administration to stop such flights to their state.

The Washington Post’s Fact Checker reported that sometimes the federal government tries to save money by arranging for flights that land late in the evening.

Most unaccompanied minors turn themselves in to border authorities and by doing so are "actually following the rules of seeking asylum," said Marouf.

ICE Air Operations is the air transportation arm of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which is responsible for the detention and deportation of immigrants.

 

He's projecting extra hard because people are starting to realize he immigrated illegally.

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3 hours ago, Planet Houston said:

I went to dinner at a nice restaurant in town the other night. Parked next to a CyberTruck. It had full matte black PPF on it - good move to save the paint, but hilarious that’s the only real option for protecting it. 

I thought to myself “I wonder what winner in here is driving that.” Then I proceed to the (small) bar and proceed to hear a guy sitting by himself in a full conversation about himself only - dating life, missed opportunities in BTC, people he should have fired, the while nine yards - at full volume on his AirPods. It wasn’t hard to figure out who the driver was.

The woooooooorst

There's no paint to save, the body is stainless steel and unpainted. I can see throwing a vinyl wrap on it to make it look a little better, though.

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26 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

There's no paint to save, the body is stainless steel and unpainted. I can see throwing a vinyl wrap on it to make it look a little better, though.

Sorry - I should have said it’s a good solution to save it from rusting. I have PPF for aesthetic and protective reasons on my car, but the cybertruck is the dumbest El Camino wannabe ever. 

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22 minutes ago, Planet Houston said:

Sorry - I should have said it’s a good solution to save it from rusting. I have PPF for aesthetic and protective reasons on my car, but the cybertruck is the dumbest El Camino wannabe ever. 

I had an El Camino Hot Wheels car that I "borrowed" from my older brother. That little car could fly down a side by side straight piece of track and won the neighborhood head-to-head races with other kids (I loved Hot Wheels cars when I was a little kid). It even had a tiny bed cover in the back that lifted up. It kind of looked like this one below only it was dark green. I have no idea where he got it but likely a garage sale cause my folks used to pick up a lot of toys that way. He had a shoe box full of cars. 

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9 hours ago, Chopper said:

Your daily dose of Elmo being a piece of shit.

edit oh wait wuuuut sorry @Hank Kingsley I guess I should've written second daily dose.

tldr - elmo wanted majority equity, to be named CEO and have OpenAI folded into Tesla.

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If I were to call this anything, it’s my daily dose of Elon being a dumbass.

Galloway blew this one up yesterday. He called this suit exactly what it is: Elon was dumb and got out too early and has serious sour grapes for that decision. There isn’t any merit to this, just he’s hoping to find a judge so dumb as to let him undo his major goof. Oops.

Altman is pantsing him with this email dump and it’s damn brilliant. 

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6 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

You think people dislike Musk now, wait till he gives a financial lifeline to Trump. Buying Trump for $600 million may fetch a better ROI than the $44 billion he spent on Twitter

I assume it would require Trump to abandon truth and rejoin X. That would probably be worth $60M. Get the rubes back on board and sell them pillows and nfts.

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12 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I assume it would require Trump to abandon truth and rejoin X. That would probably be worth $60M. Get the rubes back on board and sell them pillows and nfts.

I don’t see how that’s any benefit to Trump, given that truth social is about to IPO and he could make upwards of $5 Billion with it. 

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2 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

Galloway blew this one up yesterday. He called this suit exactly what it is: Elon was dumb and got out too early and has serious sour grapes for that decision.

Pretty sure I've mentioned to you before that imo Galloway only says the most obvious things that any idiot could come up with. Exhibit A bolded, below.

 

On 3/2/2024 at 9:42 AM, Chopper said:

Without getting all into the issue of AI, here's a couple other things I find interesting about this. When OpenAI was trying to raise $$ for their work in order to run it entirely as a non-profit, they received less than $150 Million in donations. They required a far greater sum to build and so created a for profit subsidiary, which raised something like $13 Billion to fund their efforts.

I think once again Elmo made a bad deal for himself and he's having remorse, and so we see him acting out. For example, as posted above the first thing he's asked for is that OpenAI show him their work. They're not obligated to do so Just Because the parent company is a non-profit. Also IF if that were part of any deal Elmo made with them then that would be a central part of his lawsuit against them. But, as they say, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride.

I can't wait to read OpenAI's response, they will almost certainly light him up. I'm no OpenAI or Altman fan so I have some mixed emotions about it but watching Elmo lose is much more fun. For now.

 

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18 minutes ago, Chopper said:

another daily dose of whatever you want to call it

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He’s getting the mixture dialed in tonight. 

In three hours he’ll be in a shit-filled bathtub screaming out the lyrics to White Rabbit. 

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18 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

To be clear though, El Caminos are cool AF. 
 

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I had a friend in high school that had a Black with white stripes '71 El Camino SS that was modded. Fucking thing had some serious power.

One weekend at a party he had to drive his girlfriend home in her car because she couldn't handle her liquor. He handed me his keys and asked me and another friend to pick him up at her place. lulz

Me and my other friend driving the El Camino over to that chicks house.

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the parent tweet for all this is makes it even funnier - shes giving away her money as part of her signing the Giving Pledge.

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here is who she has given $$ to last year btw:https://yieldgiving.com/essays/giving-update/

includes such well known wildass groups like the Girl Scouts and United Way. she's given $25 million to an affordable housing nonprofit plus another $20m to a community land trust in SF that works on housing, $5m to a foundation's fund that benefits those impacted by the wildfires in Hawaii, a bunch of legal aid and justice services across the entire country, a bunch of early childhood development services across the entire country, substance abuse programs, etc

you know, not everyone just gives $5.7 billion to their own charity, some folks actually like to give it to places that will make a difference.

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oh my god. he sent the "vote for the guy running as DA in Austin" to the entire TSLA company. they employ 140k people worldwide.

he didn't send it to the US group. he didn't send it to the Texas group (remember they have offices in Austin, DFW, Houston, etc.) he didn't send it to the Central Texas group (Austin + Bastrop.) he didn't send it to those working in the Austin office only - he sent it to the ENTIRE COMPANY - then emailed them again 10 hours later about it.

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also, he's megafucked in this X music publisher lawsuit: https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/tech/x-lawsuit-music-elon-musk/index.html

as a reminder, they don't pay companies to license it and they have virtually no anti piracy system or team in place for music or videos compared to every other social media site in the universe. they aren't even out there looking at the top 25 viewed videos for the day to screen out "hey this is the entire mario movie" or "hey this is the #3 most RT or liked video on the platform, but it's playing what is obviously copyrighted music, we should mute that or demonotize it"

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Summary:

  • A federal judge has allowed parts of a $250 million copyright lawsuit to proceed against Elon Musk’s X (formerly Twitter), focusing on illegal music sharing allegations.
  • The lawsuit is by the National Music Publishers’ Association, with members including Universal, Sony, and Warner Music Group, alleging X favored "verified" subscribers in sharing copyrighted music.
  • Claims that X delayed copyright infringement notices and failed to combat repeat offenders were allowed to proceed by US District Judge Aleta Trauger.
  • However, claims that X was directly responsible for stealing artists’ intellectual property were dismissed.
  • The lawsuit highlights the practice of large social media platforms paying licensing fees to music publishers, contrasting X’s alleged infringement involving over 1,700 songs.
  • Songs mentioned in the lawsuit include Mariah Carey’s “All I Want For Christmas Is You,” Outkast’s “Hey Ya!” and Mark Ronson’s “Uptown Funk,” featuring Bruno Mars.
  • Judge Trauger suggested X could be contributorily liable if it knowingly allowed its platform to be used for copyright infringement.

 

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3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

It's a time-honored tradition of billionaire shitheads to donate money to their own charity for use as a slush fund AND get tax benefits for it

but he paid the largest tax bill in history! he would never use a loophole like that to try and reduce his tax burden, right?!?!?!?!

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22 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Poor Elmo still not getting the attention it craves. 

He used to post high engagement numbers (that no doubt had been lifted due to spambots) to "prove" how much activity there is on X. Hasn't done that in a while though.

So now he needs to find a way to game the system again to try and bring in advertisers, and the users of this app lose yet again. 

X is a dead man walking. If he doesn't sell it soon the party is over. Just a matter of when. 

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2 hours ago, NoName said:

the parent tweet for all this is makes it even funnier - shes giving away her money as part of her signing the Giving Pledge.

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here is who she has given $$ to last year btw:https://yieldgiving.com/essays/giving-update/

includes such well known wildass groups like the Girl Scouts and United Way. she's given $25 million to an affordable housing nonprofit plus another $20m to a community land trust in SF that works on housing, $5m to a foundation's fund that benefits those impacted by the wildfires in Hawaii, a bunch of legal aid and justice services across the entire country, a bunch of early childhood development services across the entire country, substance abuse programs, etc

you know, not everyone just gives $5.7 billion to their own charity, some folks actually like to give it to places that will make a difference.

 

"She's giving away all of Jeff's hard earned money so she must be evil and hate him!!"

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Look, Bezos is a smart and rich man, but to fundamentally ignore Scott's efforts as a spouse, mother and having an early role at Amazon to help the business succeed, is being at best ignorant and at worst casually misogynistic.

 

1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Your daily dose of Elon being a complete dipshit moron. 

 

 

Yeah, keep taking away features. That will keep people on your site and keep attracting them on.

Every since I quit Twitter, there has been little incentive for me to go back, even with how broken my experience with the site is. For example I click either of these embedded tweets, I can only see that tweet. I click Doge's, I see zero replies. I click Elmo's, I don't even see the tweet he is replying too, so it makes no sense.

 

And it just shows how much he still does not understand what Twitter is. Oh we want proxy metrics, you have to interact with a tweet to really see what it's about. Because daring to show us that people are really getting something is inherently bad.

 

https://elonmusk.today/ should put this and Xmail on their timeline of failed deliveries. At this point anytime Elmo says "Oh X is definitely happening" it should be on that site with a new counter.

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So, apparently it is pretty easy to steal a Tesla.  

 

https://gizmodo.com/want-to-steal-a-tesla-try-using-a-flipper-zero-1851316236

 

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Security researchers report they uncovered a design flaw that let them hijack a Tesla using a Flipper Zero, a controversial $169 hacking tool. Partners Tommy Mysk and Talal Haj Bakry of Mysk Inc. said the attack is as simple as swiping a Tesla owner’s login information, opening the Tesla app, and driving away. The victim would have no idea they lost their $40,000 vehicle. Mysk said the exploit takes minutes, and to prove it all works, he stole his own car.

The issue isn’t “hacking” in the sense of breaking into software, it’s a social engineering attack that fools a user into handing over their information. Using a Flipper, the researchers set up a WiFi network called “Tesla Guest,” the name Tesla uses for its guest networks at service centers. Mysk then created a website that looks like Tesla’s login page.

 

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The process is simple. In this scenario, hackers could broadcast the network near a charging station, where a bored driver might be looking for entertainment. The victim connects to the WiFi network and enters their username and password on the fake Tesla website. The hacker then uses the credentials to log in to the real Tesla app, which triggers a two-factor authentication code. The victim enters that code into the fake website, and the thief gains access to their account. Once you’re logged into the Tesla app, you can set up a “phone key” which lets you unlock and control the car over Bluetooth with a smartphone. From there, the car is yours.

You can see Mysk’s demonstration of the attack in the video below.

 

 

 

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According to Mysk, Tesla doesn’t notify users when new keys are created, so the victim wouldn’t know they’ve been compromised. Mysk said the bad guys wouldn’t need to steal the car right away, either, because the app shows you the physical location of the vehicle. The Tesla owner could finish charging the car and drive off to go shopping or park outside their house. The thief would just watch the car’s location using the app, and then waltz up at an opportune moment and drive away.

“This means with a leaked email and password, an owner could lose their Tesla vehicle. This is insane,” Tommy Mysk said. “Phishing and social engineering attacks are very common today, especially with the rise of AI technologies, and responsible companies must factor in such risks in their threat models.”

 

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When you buy a Tesla, the company provides you with a physical keycard for the car. The Tesla Model 3 owner’s manual says “The key card is used to ‘authenticate’ phone keys to work with Model 3 and to add or remove other keys.” However, when Mysk tried this exploit, it seemed that wasn’t true.

According to Mysk, he tested the vulnerability multiple times with his own Tesla. Mysk said he used a freshly reset iPhone that had never been paired with his car before, and he made sure there was no link between that phone and his real identity through the Apple ID or IP address. Mysk said he was able to create a phone key multiple times without access to the Tesla’s physical key card.

Mysk said he contacted Tesla through its vulnerability reporting program, but the company responded that this isn’t a real problem. He shared a copy of the exchange with Gizmodo. “We have investigated and determined that this is the intended behavior,” Tesla said in the email. “The ‘Phone Key’ section of the owner’s manual page you linked to makes no mention of a key card being required to add a phone key.”

Tesla, which typically ignores questions from the media, did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

“Tesla Product Security team’s confirmation that this is the ‘intended behavior’ is preposterous,” Mysk said. “The design to pair a phone key is clearly made super easy at the expense of security.”

According to Mysk, it seems the physical key card is only necessary to “authenticate” the phone key as a fail-safe mechanism. In Mysk’s tests, he was able to set up the phone key when he was standing near or sitting in the car. If the car was too far away, the setup process would fail, and the app asked for the physical key card. But as long as he was close by, Mysk said he was able to add a new phone key without the key card.

“With Tesla’s current design, if an attacker has the victim’s username and password, they can drive away with the victim’s vehicle,” Mysk said. “If a victim is tricked to expose their credentials, they shouldn’t lose it all. They shouldn’t lose their car.”

The Flipper Zero is a controversial device that’s designed for hobbyists, hackers, and people who want to stop them. It’s like a digital Swiss army knife, with a variety of wireless connectivity features that let you play with (and break into) other devices. Recently, the Flipper’s co-founder told Gizmodo the whole point of the device is to expose big tech’s shoddy security practices. However, it’s worth noting that there are a wide variety of other inexpensive devices that would let you exploit this Tesla vulnerability in the exact same way.

It wouldn’t be hard for Tesla to solve this problem. Mysk said the company should make key card authentication mandatory before you add phone keys, and Tesla should notify users when new keys are created. But without action from the company, Tesla owners may be sitting ducks.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

So, apparently it is pretty easy to steal a Tesla.

If you are adept at social engineering and are able to steal a user's login, I guess it's "easy"?  The article does highlight some security vulnerabilities that need to be addressed, but it's quite a leap to call it "easy" to steal a Tesla. 

Teslas are among the least stolen vehicles in the U.S.

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30 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

If you are adept at social engineering and are able to steal a user's login, I guess it's "easy"?  The article does highlight some security vulnerabilities that need to be addressed, but it's quite a leap to call it "easy" to steal a Tesla. 

Teslas are among the least stolen vehicles in the U.S.

So even thieves agree that Elmo is a shithead?

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6 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Poor Elmo still not getting the attention it craves. 

6 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

He used to post high engagement numbers (that no doubt had been lifted due to spambots) to "prove" how much activity there is on X. Hasn't done that in a while though.

So now he needs to find a way to game the system again to try and bring in advertisers, and the users of this app lose yet again. 

X is a dead man walking. If he doesn't sell it soon the party is over. Just a matter of when. 

Yep, this is not the way to convince advertisers that everything is peachy keen.  I still really don’t think he understands who the product and the customers are.

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21 minutes ago, Chopper said:

The rantings of an angry moron come back to bite him in the ass.

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Parag Argawal and 3 other top twitter execs filed suit against elmo this week because he stole their $$$$ (refused to pay severance).

 

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link to lawsuit

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24457674-twitter-exec-lawsuit

Elon isn't just a cartoon villain.....he's a poorly written one.

 

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