Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[chainsaw 9,838]

23 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Elon isn't just a cartoon villain.....he's a poorly written one.

 

[Chopper 17,169]

Attempt to save $200M in a $45B deal through outright breach of contract. That's less than half of 1 percent (.0044) - reneged on by Elmo, and now he'll get to go to court, likely pay their attorneys' fees, and perhaps damages. The lawsuit describes the lengthy details Mosk went to...it's repulsive and tedious, though of course involves using spacex workers to carry out Mosk's own dirty work.

Paragraph 90 is a lovely dig by Plaintiff's (Argawal, et al.) attorneys.

 

[chainsaw 9,838]

Lighting $31.6B on fire to own the libs.

[Brisketexan 104,622]

Just now, chainsaw said:

Lighting $31.6B on fire to own the libs.

Fire's still burning, dude.

[956 Worldwide 34,443]

The Cybertruck is such an execrable piece of garbage and Elon is becoming such and albatross at the same time other automakers are really creating EVs that are crave-worthy. And Tesla has not really been doing any development save this joke of a truck that can’t drive in rain.  Tesla has a lot of advantages most notably the Supercharger network but he’s well on the way to fucking up Tesla as the EV of record. 
 
Rivian recently released this hot number and I can’t imagine selecting any Tesla over this pending pricing:

The new Dodge Charger will have to prove quality but I say in all seriousness I can’t believe it won’t be better than Tesla’s objectively.  It looks better and it will be competitive on price:

[Prepuce of Doom 20,988]

That Rivian looks familiar. 

[safe sex 11,680]

Good artists borrow. Great artists steal

[Brisketexan 104,622]

2 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

That Rivian looks familiar. 

Silly goose, Tesla already has the answer ready to crank out:

[Pescado_Rojo 19,331]

12 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

That Rivian looks familiar. 

I was thinking it looked like the offroad version of a 90's GTI...so this is pretty much correct. 

[Storm the Field 5,273]

On 3/6/2024 at 12:05 PM, Planet Houston said:

I went to dinner at a nice restaurant in town the other night. Parked next to a CyberTruck. It had full matte black PPF on it - good move to save the paint, but hilarious that’s the only real option for protecting it. 

I thought to myself “I wonder what winner in here is driving that.” Then I proceed to the (small) bar and proceed to hear a guy sitting by himself in a full conversation about himself only - dating life, missed opportunities in BTC, people he should have fired, the while nine yards - at full volume on his AirPods. It wasn’t hard to figure out who the driver was.

The woooooooorst

Houston? If so, I think I may have seen the exact same truck downtown on Sunday. Matte black Cybertruck. First time I've seen one in the flesh. Looked like a prop from Demolition Man.

Direct quote to my wife "Jesus, that's the shittiest looking car I've ever seen. Can you imagine the douche that must be driving that thing?"

Now, with this info, I no longer have to imagine. 

Edited March 7 by Storm the Field

[F250 28,688]

4 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

If you are adept at social engineering and are able to steal a user's login, I guess it's "easy"?  The article does highlight some security vulnerabilities that need to be addressed, but it's quite a leap to call it "easy" to steal a Tesla. 

Teslas are among the least stolen vehicles in the U.S.

This really is a very simple hack that doesn't require a strong technical skillset.

The only drawback to stealing a Tesla like other vehicles is the tracking of the vehicle. I wouldn't recommend stealing a Tesla unless the goal was to just steal it and immediately drive it into a lake for lulz.

 

[Planet Houston 4,923]

29 minutes ago, Storm the Field said:

Houston? If so, I think I may have seen the exact same truck downtown on Sunday. Matte black Cybertruck. First time I've seen one in the flesh. Looked like a prop from Demolition Man.

Direct quote to my wife "Jesus, that's the shittiest looking car I've ever seen. Can you imagine the douche that must be driving that thing?"

Now, with this info, I no longer have to imagine. 

Yep. This was at Kata Robata. 

[Biff Tannen 45,495]

39 minutes ago, F250 said:

This really is a very simple hack that doesn't require a strong technical skillset.

The only drawback to stealing a Tesla like other vehicles is the tracking of the vehicle. I wouldn't recommend stealing a Tesla unless the goal was to just steal it and immediately drive it into a lake for lulz.

 

Seems like a pretty simple software fix too.  

[Francisco 2.0 32,341]

Ya'll remember that Tesla video of the Cybertruck tugging an F-150?  Well, most of ya'll wouldn't be surprised...but it was staged:

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-cybertruck-embarrasses-itself-in-tug-of-war-with-1851317370

 

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 Tesla CEO Elon Musk tweeted a video of a Cybertruck pulling an F-150 uphill in a game of tug-of-war in 2019, but when real people attempted a similar stuntwith a diesel Silverado HD, the stock Cybertruck disabled power. 

It turns out, the Cybertruck can’t tug without the CPU shutting the whole thing down, as Inside EVs reports:

 

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Unfortunately, the Cybertuck can’t tug. Once the Silverado begins to pull the Cybertruck, some sort of failsafe kicks in and disables the motors/cuts power to the Cybertruck. This was a big letdown, especially since Tesla hyped the Cybertruck tug-of-war abilities during the debut. The Cybertruck does manage to pull the Silverado but only when its in park (with nobody inside the truck for some odd reason too).

In the video, you’ll see that they even disconnected the ABS sensors on the Cybertruck, but that still didn’t allow it to tug. Maybe there is a workaround? If so, we think someone will find it soon enough, so stay tuned to see if a tampered-with Cybertruck can tug-of-war.

It seems we may have been duped by Tesla and Elon Musk because replicating something like what’s seen in the video below doesn’t appear to be possible with a stock Cybertruck.

 

 

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This is not the first time that Tesla doctored results to make its products look superior; as we covered previously, Tesla also intentionally misled the public when it claimed a Cybertruck would beat a Porsche 911 in a quarter-mile drag race while towing a Porsche 911. This kind of behavior is disappointing to see, but not surprising given the shifty nature of previous Tesla claims and the generally shifty nature of the company’s CEO Elon Musk.

 

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This now marks the third time that Tesla and Elon Musk have knowingly bullshitted their respective ways into headlines, with the first time being back in 2016 when Tesla released a fake video showing fake self-driving capabilities. That was confirmed fake in 2023 when a Tesla engineer admitted it was a farce. Then, at the Cybertruck delivery event late last year, Tesla lied about the Cybertruck towing a Porsche 911 beating a 911 in a quarter-mile drag race. That was confirmed fake when “Engineering Explained” crunched some numbers and realized that Musk lied about the race taking place over a full quarter-mile, and likely used a base, manual transmission 911.

 

 

[Parliament 14,138]

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This now marks the third time that Tesla and Elon Musk have knowingly bullshitted ...

*bullshat

[Post Oak 20,184]

Flew home from Disney today.  Took 130 right past the Tesla factory.  Must've seen 4 or 5 cybertrucks  on 130.  

I swear I don't get it.  

I wouldn't trade my 2011 F150 for it.  

Edited March 8 by Post Oak

[SydneyCarton 47,884]

15 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The Cybertruck is such an execrable piece of garbage and Elon is becoming such and albatross at the same time other automakers are really creating EVs that are crave-worthy. And Tesla has not really been doing any development save this joke of a truck that can’t drive in rain.  Tesla has a lot of advantages most notably the Supercharger network but he’s well on the way to fucking up Tesla as the EV of record. 
 
Rivian recently released this hot number and I can’t imagine selecting any Tesla over this pending pricing:

The new Dodge Charger will have to prove quality but I say in all seriousness I can’t believe it won’t be better than Tesla’s objectively.  It looks better and it will be competitive on price:

 

15 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

That Rivian looks familiar. 

Not going to lie, not a big fan of that Rivian. I really like their bigger SUV. Their truck looks fine, it's just too fucking small. That need to make a model that is the size of an F150, no a Ranger or Maverick. 

[Captainant 27,463]

13 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

That need to make a model that is the size of an F150, no a Ranger or Maverick. 

Bigger vehicle body = more weight = less range, unless you're spending a bunch of money for more batteries. 

IMO, cars are going the wrong way. They shouldn't be massive boxy slabs on wheels that stick out a couple feet from your parking space. They've only become that way because of poorly written emissions regulations that have looser rules if a vehicle is heavy enough. 

Plus, a smaller car means a cheaper bill of materials to build it which is more sustainable and affordable

[SydneyCarton 47,884]

3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Bigger vehicle body = more weight = less range, unless you're spending a bunch of money for more batteries. 

IMO, cars are going the wrong way. They shouldn't be massive boxy slabs on wheels that stick out a couple feet from your parking space. They've only become that way because of poorly written emissions regulations that have looser rules if a vehicle is heavy enough. 

Plus, a smaller car means a cheaper bill of materials to build it which is more sustainable and affordable

You're arguing to me about something you *think* my point or line of thought is, but I assure you it's not where your head is going. I didn't attempt to prompt some discussion about distance or range, batteries required, or however the fuck your philosophical leanings on where cars should be going being expressed. I wasn't looking for a dicussion on materials and bills.

If they want to sell trucks, make something cool that looks and is the size of popular truck models. The Ford Lighnting looks like a normal sized F150, so lets not pretend this engineering isn't fucking possible. The Rivian truck looks small compared to an F150 or Silverado, and those are the standards for trucks. You want to sell something, make it in the size that's popular. Whining about battery range when the analogs who are buying ICE trucks right now sure don't give a fuck about gas mileage doesn't strike me as an argument that has merit.

As for the idea of what cars should be doing, or going, and what their purpose is, well, everyone's going to have different opinions on that. And there are going to be electric cars and trucks of all different shapes and sizes to cater to those people as well. 

[Captainant 27,463]

Just now, SydneyCarton said:

You're arguing to me about something you *think* my point or line of thought is, but I assure you it's not where your head is going. I didn't attempt to prompt some discussion about distance or range, batteries required, or however the fuck your philosophical leanings on where cars should be going being expressed. I wasn't looking for a dicussion on materials and bills.

Woah dude, I didn't feel like I was coming at you hot or aggressively or anything, sorry my tastes don't align with yours I guess. 

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

If they want to sell trucks, make something cool that looks and is the size of popular truck models. The Ford Lighnting looks like a normal sized F150, so lets not pretend this engineering isn't fucking possible. The Rivian truck looks small compared to an F150 or Silverado, and those are the standards for trucks. You want to sell something, make it in the size that's popular. Whining about battery range when the analogs who are buying ICE trucks right now sure don't give a fuck about gas mileage doesn't strike me as an argument that has merit.

Well it's moreso that things get more and more expensive as vehicles get larger - and IIRC, trucks and the vehicle market in general are struggling because of prices becoming too high for most car buyers. 

 

Jesus Christ, Sid. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning? 

[SydneyCarton 47,884]

5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Woah dude, I didn't feel like I was coming at you hot or aggressively or anything, sorry my tastes don't align with yours I guess. 

Well it's moreso that things get more and more expensive as vehicles get larger - and IIRC, trucks and the vehicle market in general are struggling because of prices becoming too high for most car buyers. 

 

Jesus Christ, Sid. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning? 

Man, you've been a poster on here a long time. I realize that I use profanity excessively. This is one of those isntances where while I used it, I wasn't being overly aggressive. More dismissive. And that's on my to clear up with posts like this. But yeah, I wasn't trying to be overly aggressive, just illustrating exactly what you said: Our tastes don't align. We're good. 

While there is plenty of discussion to be had on how the car industry doesn't make new cars for people without money anymore (that market is solely the used car market, more or less), I think that's a different dicussion. Cars are routinely, insanely, in the 70-120 range now for things that aren't even super/sports cars. It's insane. But as a result, I don't think money really has a part in this conversations. Rivians are ALREADY expensive AF. Ford Lightning's are expensive AF. Sadly, capitalism isn't intersted in catering to the middle or lower class. I'm not sure the car market is "struggling." I think it's working as they've designed/chosen. Sadly. 

Ha, no one man. I'm just a potty-mouthed motherfucker. I'm actually in a pretty good mood today. Sorry man. 

Edited March 8 by SydneyCarton

[Brisketexan 104,622]

9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Jesus Christ, Sid. Who pissed in your cheerios this morning? 

1) I guess you haven't heard - from now on, all Cheerios come pre-pissed-in.

2) It's the newest breakfast feature brought to us by Elon.  His fanbois assure me that the pissed-in Cheerios are indeed superior to all other Cheerios, and only beta soyboy cucks eat Cheerios with milk now.

[TexPx 2,319]

That Rivian looks familiar. 

That was a pretty badass Rally car in its day.

[HenryJames 65,890]

[Gene Parmesan 3,993]

4 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

You're arguing to me about something you *think* my point or line of thought is, but I assure you it's not where your head is going. I didn't attempt to prompt some discussion about distance or range, batteries required, or however the fuck your philosophical leanings on where cars should be going being expressed. I wasn't looking for a dicussion on materials and bills.

If they want to sell trucks, make something cool that looks and is the size of popular truck models. The Ford Lighnting looks like a normal sized F150, so lets not pretend this engineering isn't fucking possible. The Rivian truck looks small compared to an F150 or Silverado, and those are the standards for trucks. You want to sell something, make it in the size that's popular. Whining about battery range when the analogs who are buying ICE trucks right now sure don't give a fuck about gas mileage doesn't strike me as an argument that has merit.

As for the idea of what cars should be doing, or going, and what their purpose is, well, everyone's going to have different opinions on that. And there are going to be electric cars and trucks of all different shapes and sizes to cater to those people as well. 

I know the majority of truck owners don't do truck things with their trucks, but if you do EV isn't really an option.  Unless there is a charger at the boat launch, I can probably only take my boat 30-50 miles away in a Lightning if I want to get back.  

[Hank Kingsley 20,704]

42 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Smart move. A little more privacy for when a Cybertruck owner kidnaps a girl and goes on the run. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

My word, I've got a bright blue tarp I keep stowed in the back of my little Honda for when I need to haul mulch or other messy stuff that looks better than that $3000 dollar Harbor Freight disaster. I think it cost me <20 dollars give or take a few.

[gofuckyourself 8,122]

$3000? Pretty good deal for $45 worth of nylon and an air mattress.

Have to hand it to him. He found his idiots to fleece.

[gofuckyourself 8,122]

Also funny

 

 

[Stilicho 1,397]

Legit lol at "Tent Mode"

[Brisketexan 104,622]

$3000.  For a baggy-ass tarp looking thing.  Whereas the following item is a mere $155:

Elon really is the Fyre Fest of oligarchs, isn't he?

[atomheartbevo 89,447]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Elon really is the Fyre Fest of oligarchs, isn't he?

Holy shit it really is $3,000

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cybertruck-basecamp

Im actually impressed at the grift.

[Brisketexan 104,622]

43 minutes ago, Stilicho said:

Legit lol at "Tent Mode"

To be fair, it will probably be available in the next software upgrade to the Cybertruck.

Of course, ACTIVATING that software module will probably cost $5,000.

4 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Holy shit it really is $3,000

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cybertruck-basecamp

Im actually impressed at the grift.

Once you establish a class of cultish simps, it really is your holy obligation to bilk them out of every possible penny.

That move may be the one thing about Elon that I actually respect.  When you've got suckers on the line, REEL THEM IN.

[Chopper 17,169]

I still can't believe that thing is real. Jalopnik has a review in case, like me, you're a basecamp skeptic.  https://jalopnik.com/tesla-cybertruck-s-basecamp-tent-is-a-3-000-disappoi-1851319488

 

[Hefeweizen 5,307]

Holy shit that’s real?  Seriously?

[Chopper 17,169]

11 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Holy shit that’s real?  Seriously?

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

went on sale at the end of November when the production models were unveiled, just started shipping to the lucky first few to snag one.

 

[HenryJames 65,890]

1 hour ago, gofuckyourself said:

Also funny

 

 

@PantsTent

[Pig Bellmont 8,691]

1 hour ago, gofuckyourself said:

Also funny

 

 

Compare side by side with Rivian

[JosephStang 130]

Copied from the two threads I've posted.

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Here's another way to put it. Israel believes the Jewish Messiah has arrived and they are totally comfortable dragging us into WWIII. That's why Ukraine is happening. Austin could force Musk to let us have a fair and open debate. 

 

 

 

I have the evidence that will shut down every sociopath warmonger but I'm shadowbanned everywhere because I'm the wrong kind of Jewish Zionist. I'm the sane non-genocidal kind.

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[Brisketexan 104,622]

27 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Holy shit that’s real?  Seriously?

Dude.  #1 rule of the Elonverse.  No matter how ridiculous/insane/absurd something Elon-related seems.....it's real.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

The review comment about Tesla recommending bringing the cybertruck into a service center for installation.

"Honey? Honey, yeah it's me-your alpha male husband. I'm pulled over at the Buccees on 290. The Tesla service tech bros installed the tent and I was zooming along home to pick you and the gear up and the tent went airborne somewhere past Cypress. I think our camping trip will have to be postponed."

[Brisketexan 104,622]

21 minutes ago, JosephStang said:

Copied from the two threads I've posted.

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Here's another way to put it. Israel believes the Jewish Messiah has arrived and they are totally comfortable dragging us into WWIII. That's why Ukraine is happening. Austin could force Musk to let us have a fair and open debate. 

 

 

 

I have the evidence that will shut down every sociopath warmonger but I'm shadowbanned everywhere because I'm the wrong kind of Jewish Zionist. I'm the sane non-genocidal kind.

//

Negged because the theory of everything does not contain instructions on how to properly mount and deploy a Cybertruck Basecamp Super Alpha Male Camping Tent.  So, begone from this thread.

[Stilicho 1,397]

28 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

The review comment about Tesla recommending bringing the cybertruck into a service center for installation.

"Honey? Honey, yeah it's me-your alpha male husband. I'm pulled over at the Buccees on 290. The Tesla service tech bros installed the tent and I was zooming along home to pick you and the gear up and the tent went airborne somewhere past Cypress. I think our camping trip will have to be postponed."

Right? 

How the fuck would the tent not simply sail away five miles from the dealership?

Magnets?!

[Braff Zacklin 13,420]

Had to posrep that @JosephStang post as it caught me off guard and I nearly spit iced tea all over the place. Looks like crowdsourcing is imminent despite my reaction.

This site truly attracts some odd ones.

[ultimaton 2,966]

1 hour ago, JosephStang said:

I'm the sane non-genocidal kind.

Edited March 8 by ultimaton

[royiv 9,159]

5 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Had to posrep that @JosephStang post as it caught me off guard and I nearly spit iced tea all over the place. Looks like crowdsourcing is imminent despite my reaction.

This site truly attracts some odd ones.

Crowdsourcing this national treasure would be a crime.

[956 Worldwide 34,443]

3 hours ago, gofuckyourself said:

Also funny

 

 

Why do you even need a tent if you can’t take the truck out in the rain? 

[956 Worldwide 34,443]

8 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Had to posrep that @JosephStang post as it caught me off guard and I nearly spit iced tea all over the place. Looks like crowdsourcing is imminent despite my reaction.

This site truly attracts some odd ones.

I am with you, trying to keep him alive. I need someone to call me names and demand I print things out to read to professors. 

[956 Worldwide 34,443]

2 hours ago, Chopper said:

I still can't believe that thing is real. Jalopnik has a review in case, like me, you're a basecamp skeptic.  https://jalopnik.com/tesla-cybertruck-s-basecamp-tent-is-a-3-000-disappoi-1851319488

 

This is some true fucking LOL.  My first reaction is, Tesla has to know their market.  Cybertruck owners are not going camping, but I can bet they want to say they’d go camping and never try out the tent.  
 

Second— it completely tracks that they’d recommend Cybertruck owners get someone else to install the tent.  I wouldn’t let a Cybertruck owner set up my Coleman.

So overall, I respect this grift and effort to part poser dweebs from 3K.

[Braff Zacklin 13,420]

3 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I am with you, trying to keep him alive. I need someone to call me names and demand I print things out to read to professors. 

I saw the topic he created earlier this morning, but I just didn't expect to open up the Elmo thread and stumble upon a post that starts with:

"Israel believes the Jewish Messiah has arrived ... "

It truly caught me off guard and I've been chuckling over it, off and on, for the past 15 minutes.