Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

13 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Keep scrolling through the comments on that thread.

Holy shit, it’s Nazis all the way down. It’s horrifyingly amazing.

 

14 minutes ago, NoName said:

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One thing about the new Twitter/X is that without authentic verification, the Nazis can easily have multiple accounts similar to what this woman did with hers. She has at least 3 accounts apparently. People did that on the Dorsey version as well, but there was an attempt at least to minimize some of the damage due to bot swarms of hate, etc.

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

When *your testing products on the public, a few innocent people will have to die. 

*you're

 

[Nivek 16913]

25 minutes ago, NoName said:

...this is why he fired the ad team?

"too generic"

look at this funny lady who liked it, then said it lacked the wow factor

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also, Musk in the last 30 days has 2000+ tweets! which are numbers only exceeded by these people

for comparison here are how many tweets the other accounts in the top 10 most followed (per social blade) have sent in the last 30 days

• Obama: 23
• CR7: 20
• Bieber: 0 (actually he deleted 4 in the last 30 days so he has -4)
• Rihanna: 11
• Katy Perry: 29
• Nardendra Modi (indian PM): 589
• Taylor Swift: 14
• Trump: 0
• Ariana Grande: 113

looking at the rest of the top 25 with a notable # of tweets

• NASA: 164
• youtube: 390
• Kim Kardashian: 39
• X: 51
• CNN: 192
• CNN Breaking News: 160
• NYT: 1813

NYT is #25 in followers.

so just to be clear, he has more tweets in the last 30 days than the #2-24 most followed accounts on his website...combined

all while, on paper, being the CEO of SpaceX, the CEO of Tesla and the CEO of Twitter.

i kind of love how this guy has gone from a misunderstood genius to someone who is going to be a case study for how not to run a business, any business. terrible rebrands, terrible business decisions DAILY, fumbling a years long lead on EVs, waiving due diligence, firing off dumb lawsuits, major course changes within days/weeks/months of making the decision, horrible executive hiring practices, etc

what a fucking moron.

 

Musk is an idiots/poors version of what a CEO is.   

[Clintonaldo 2572]

13 hours ago, Covri said:

Sunday morning it loaded street fights and someone getting their dick sucked on a subway platform . Some other uncensored nudity too. I was just trying to find out the basketball and boxing highlights the night before on my feed lol.

hmm... I might have given up on twitter prematurely.

[texasdago 7554]

30 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

@NoNamewho is CR7?

Some dude who has 110M followers.

  

[Guadaloopy 10945]

3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

https://www.heraldnet.com/news/tesla-driver-on-autopilot-caused-fatal-highway-522-crash-police-say/

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Tesla driver on Autopilot caused fatal Highway 522 crash, police say

The driver was reportedly on his phone with his Tesla on Autopilot on Friday when he crashed into Jeffrey Nissen, killing him.

Jonathan Tall

• Monday, April 22, 2024 2:44pm

MALTBY — A Tesla driver who had set his car on Autopilot was “distracted” by his phone before reportedly hitting and killinga motorcyclist Friday on Highway 522, according to a new police report.

Around 3:45 p.m., a Snohomish man in a 2022 Tesla Model S was driving home behind a motorcyclist at Fales Road in Maltby, according to the report.

The man, 56, had activated Tesla’s Autopilot feature. He was using his phone when he heard a bang as his car lurched forward and crashed into the motorcycle in front of him, troopers wrote.

The motorcyclist, Jeffrey Nissen, was ejected. The Tesla was lodged on top of him, police said.

The Tesla driver exited his car and called police. Nissen died at the scene. He was 28.

Using sobriety and drug recognition tests, authorities determined the driver was not impaired by drugs or alcohol, according to the report. Troopers arrested the Tesla driver for investigation of vehicular homicide while driving distracted.

Troopers wrote the driver’s inattention while his car was on Autopilot, “putting the trust in the machine to drive for him,” gave them probable cause to arrest the man. He was booked into the Snohomish County Jail.

Tesla’s Autopilot feature has come under regulatory and legal scrutiny. Since 2019, at least 17 people have been killed in crashes involving Teslas in Autopilot mode, The Washington Post reported in June.

The crash came a day before Tesla slashed the price of its Full Self-Driving software from $12,000 to $8,000.

The technology does not mean the car is autonomous. Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving Capability are “intended for use with a fully attentive driver, who has their hands hands on the wheel and is prepared to take over at any moment,” according to the company’s website.

The man posted $100,000 bail and was released from jail Sunday night.

Jonathan Tall: 425-339-3486;jonathan.tall@heraldnet.com; Twitter: @snocojon.

 

 

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

When your testing products on the public, a few innocent people will have to die. 

 

22 minutes ago, Nivek said:

“Distracted Driver Kills Motorcyclist” doesn’t really get the clicks does it?

Tesla’s Autopilot is not FSD.  It’s different software altogether.  But that’s beside the point.  
 

If the headline was “Ford Driver Using Cruise Control with Lane Assist Caused Fatal Crash” no one would give it a second look, because…

[Hank Kingsley 20901]

11 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Tesla’s Autopilot is not FSD.  It’s different software altogether.  But that’s beside the point.  
 

Maybe dipshit shouldn't call it Autopilot then. Since, you know, most people driving are dipshits. 

 

[mdmost 42996]

55 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

@NoNamewho is CR7?

[Nivek 16913]

34 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

 

 

“Distracted Driver Kills Motorcyclist” doesn’t really get the clicks does it?

Tesla’s Autopilot is not FSD.  It’s different software altogether.  But that’s beside the point.  
 

If the headline was “Ford Driver Using Cruise Control with Lane Assist Caused Fatal Crash” no one would give it a second look, because…

Yeah, no one gave Ford crap for their rollover prone vehicles....

[Guadaloopy 10945]

18 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Maybe dipshit shouldn't call it Autopilot then. Since, you know, most people driving are dipshits. 

 

Maybe so, but there are plenty of dipshits who also misunderstand cruise control.   
 

This is my anecdotal evidence, but I get more reminders and warnings from my Tesla’s driver assist features than I have ever gotten from any other make of vehicle. 
 

I have a Volvo that has TACC and lane-keeping.  I get nothing but a “ding” when I engage it.  I have also had it turn off the lane-keeping function with no notice multiple times.  It’s quite disconcerting.  I am far more comfortable using Tesla’s features than the Volvo’s. 

[NoName 16348]

3 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

This is my anecdotal evidence, but I get more reminders and warnings from my Tesla’s driver assist features than I have ever gotten from any other make of vehicle. 

I have a Volvo that has TACC and lane-keeping.  I get nothing but a “ding” when I engage it.  I have also had it turn off the lane-keeping function with no notice multiple times.  It’s quite disconcerting.  I am far more comfortable using Tesla’s features than the Volvo’s. 

...of course adaptive cruise control alerts you less than FSD. it exists for a very specific use case, has a much smaller scope and typically you don't have it on all the time.

...so of course it is going to drop in significantly fewer notifications than FSD Beta. or it certainly should.

here's what Volvo's website says about their Adaptive Cruise Control:

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Adaptive Cruise Control helps your Volvo maintain a set speed or time interval in relation to the vehicle ahead.  This feature utilizes a camera as well as a radar sensor to detect slower moving vehicles ahead of you and automatically adjusts your Volvo's speed.  Once you are no longer behind the vehicle you will speed back up to your preset speed.  To activate the function, you must be driving at speeds 9 mph (15 km/h) or higher, the seatbelt needs to be fastened, and the doors need to be closed.  

Note: This system is designed to be a supplementary driving aid.  It is not intended to replace the driver's attention and judgment.  Adaptive Cruise Control cannot cover all driving situations and traffic, weather and road conditions.  ACC is not a collision avoidance system!  It does not sense pedestrians, animals, bicycles, or motorcycles.  You, as the driver, are always responsible for braking the vehicle.

ACC is absolutely not a 1:1 comparison for FSD - and again, you know that.

come on, dude.

[Guadaloopy 10945]

Just now, NoName said:

...of course adaptive cruise control alerts you less than FSD. it exists for a very specific use case, has a much smaller scope and typically you don't have it on all the time.

...so of course it is going to drop in significantly fewer notifications than FSD Beta. or it certainly should.

here's what Volvo's website says about their Adaptive Cruise Control:

ACC is absolutely not a 1:1 comparison for FSD - and again, you know that.

come on, dude.

I should have been more clear.  I am comparing my experience with Tesla's TACC and Autopilot (lane-keeping) to my experience with Volvo's.  Tesla has more overt notifications when engaging these systems along with on-screen warnings as compared to Volvo.  Driver-monitoring is more frequent and obvious in the Tesla than the Volvo.

FSD is a different animal.  

[Ted Lange 16078]

3 hours ago, Captainant said:

Elon Musk – Dead at 52 – Says There Is No Need for Misinformation Laws

Billionaire Elon Musk, found dead in his home last night, says it is not the role of social media networks to determine what is true or not.

The Tesla and X owner, who is believed to have died from a heroin overdose while watching animal porn, said he would fight any attempts to stop the spread of misinformation on his platform.

 

Police revealed that Musk, who says it is up to the public to decide what was true or not, had been fighting incest charges at the time of his death.

His funeral is next week.

____

This is an updated version of the article: Mark Zuckerberg – Dead at 36 – Says Social Media Sites Should Not Fact Check Posts

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I really hope you didn't need to click on this to know the above is satire

 

[NoName 16348]

3 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I should have been more clear.  I am comparing my experience with Tesla's TACC and Autopilot (lane-keeping) to my experience with Volvo's.  Tesla has more overt notifications when engaging these systems along with on-screen warnings as compared to Volvo.  Driver-monitoring is more frequent and obvious in the Tesla than the Volvo.

FSD is a different animal.  

funny enough IIHS gave both the FSD and Autopilot a P (Poor) rating on safety, which is the same as the Volvo Pilot Assist

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/partial-automation-safeguards

to be fair, all but 3 tested systems got poor ratings. the Lexus version got an A (Acceptable), the GM and Nissan version version got an M (Marginal)

[Guadaloopy 10945]

15 minutes ago, NoName said:

ACC is absolutely not a 1:1 comparison for FSD - and again, you know that.

But that's the problem with a lot of the discussion in this thread.  People continually conflate Tesla's Autopilot features with FSD.  Tesla's "Autopilot" feature is simply TACC + Lane-keeping.  Tesla's Enhanced Autopilot takes it a step further and adds in automatic lane changes based on traffic conditions and set speed.  There is a third level of Autopilot called "Navigate on Autopilot" which will navigate highway interchanges and take highway exits.  FSD (Supervised) - the current revised Tesla nomenclature - does all of the above plus navigation on city streets.

The vehicle in the article above was in "Autopilot" = TACC + Lane-keeping. 

[NoName 16348]

7 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

But that's the problem with a lot of the discussion in this thread.  People continually conflate Tesla's Autopilot features with FSD.  Tesla's "Autopilot" feature is simply TACC + Lane-keeping.  Tesla's Enhanced Autopilot takes it a step further and adds in automatic lane changes based on traffic conditions and set speed.  There is a third level of Autopilot called "Navigate on Autopilot" which will navigate highway interchanges and take highway exits.  FSD (Supervised) - the current revised Tesla nomenclature - does all of the above plus navigation on city streets.

The vehicle in the article above was in "Autopilot" = TACC + Lane-keeping. 

Tesla should be better at naming things, marketing those things and explaining why they have value so people buy those things. instead, they just fired their entire US-based advertising team.

[Captainant 27592]

7 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

But that's the problem with a lot of the discussion in this thread.  People continually conflate Tesla's Autopilot features with FSD.  Tesla's "Autopilot" feature is simply TACC + Lane-keeping.  Tesla's Enhanced Autopilot takes it a step further and adds in automatic lane changes based on traffic conditions and set speed.  There is a third level of Autopilot called "Navigate on Autopilot" which will navigate highway interchanges and take highway exits.  FSD (Supervised) - the current revised Tesla nomenclature - does all of the above plus navigation on city streets.

The vehicle in the article above was in "Autopilot" = TACC + Lane-keeping. 

That's a shitty and misleading name for a feature then. It should be actioned by the FTC because people are buying Tesla's thinking they can do autopilot, like the name would suggest. 

And further, you're continuing to not address that your $10,000 paid beta software is just as poor at unsupervised driving as the current "norm"

[Guadaloopy 10945]

5 minutes ago, NoName said:

funny enough IIHS gave both the FSD and Autopilot a P (Poor) rating on safety, which is the same as the Volvo Pilot Assist

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/partial-automation-safeguards

to be fair, all but 3 tested systems got poor ratings. the Lexus version got an A (Acceptable), the GM and Nissan version version got an M (Marginal)

Not a great performance by Tesla for sure.  One caveat that I will toss out there is that the tested version of FSD is a year old.  Current version is MUCH better.

['stache 21786]

Twitter and Tesla have both tanked to what appears to be half or less of it's high value/purchase price. Is SpaceX really what keeps this idiot atop the wealth charts?

[Guadaloopy 10945]

3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

That's a shitty and misleading name for a feature then. It should be actioned by the FTC because people are buying Tesla's thinking they can do autopilot, like the name would suggest. 

I don't know why anyone would assume that Autopilot does anything more than the accepted dictionary definition that Hank shared above.  That's exactly what Tesla's Autopilot does.

[Guadaloopy 10945]

4 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Also @Guadaloopy while we have your attention and you are replying:

Serious question as you seem to genuinely like the Tesla as a car and driving experience based on your posting history here: do you have any ethical qualms regarding being a current Tesla owner? On any level does it give you "the ick", as the kids say?

Obviously it's too late now, but if you had a choice to do it again, would you buy a different vehicle or buy a Tesla again, knowing all that you know (and have firsthand experienced as an owner)?

No ethical qualms at all.  I bought the vehicle in September of 2020 because of the technology and performance.  At the time, I also had Tesla home solar and Power Walls.  It was pretty cool having all three on the same app to manage.  The other deciding factor was the supercharging network.  No one else came close to providing the charging availability of the Tesla fleet.  It's still a huge competitive advantage for Tesla IMO.

Fast forward to now... I probably won't buy another Tesla unless the company regains some of its earlier focus on accelerating the transition to renewable energy.  The Cybertruck has been a huge misstep from concept to execution and has diluted the focus of the company.  I never bought into the cult of Elon, but I really loved the Tesla brand circa 2020.  To say the shine has come off is a huge understatement.  

My next vehicle will probably be an F150 Lightning once Ford shifts over to NACS.     

[C-Man 27172]

At what point does Tesla seriously consider jettisoning Elon as CEO?

[Captain Ron 12845]

3 hours ago, BeardIP said:

@NoNamewho is CR7?

3 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

Lionel Messi’s son.  

[Captain Ron 12845]

2 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

 

 

“Distracted Driver Kills Motorcyclist” doesn’t really get the clicks does it?

Tesla’s Autopilot is not FSD.  It’s different software altogether.  But that’s beside the point.  
 

If the headline was “Ford Driver Using Cruise Control with Lane Assist Caused Fatal Crash” no one would give it a second look, because…

 

Wait a second, wasn't this you?

 

 

On 4/19/2024 at 2:59 PM, Guadaloopy said:

On 4/19/2024 at 1:53 PM, F250 said:

Mercedes is selling Level 3 cars in California and Nevada. Will other traditional auto manufacturers leap frog Tesla as well, turning Tesla into the next Sega Dreamcast?

https://fortune.com/2024/04/18/mercedes-self-driving-autonomous-cars-california-nevada-level-3-drive-pilot/

 

System only works below 40 mph with another vehicle in front.  Tesla could probably go through the motions to get their system certified at this level with these restrictions, but ...

 

[Captain Ron 12845]

44 minutes ago, C-Man said:

At what point does Tesla seriously consider jettisoning Elon as CEO?

Never. This is what the whole lawsuit about his compensation pointed out - the board is beholden to him in way more of a way than they should be. They are all in on him.

 

If this was a rational BOD, they would have ejected him when he bough twitter.

Edited April 23 by Captain Ron

[Guadaloopy 10945]

21 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

 

Wait a second, wasn't this you?

 

 

 

I don’t see where one post contradicts the other?  
 

re: first quoted post - The driver in the article  was using Autopilot not FSD.  
 

re: second quoted post - Tesla is leapfrogging Level 3 with FSD and aiming towards Level 4 certification.   
 

 

[MrBig 5361]

14 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

re: second quoted post - Tesla is leapfrogging Level 3 with FSD and aiming towards Level 4 certification.  

Tesla FSD is nowhere near Level 3 and will never achieve Level 3 certification without lidar. 

[Hank Kingsley 20901]

2 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

But that's the problem with a lot of the discussion in this thread.  People continually conflate Tesla's Autopilot features with FSD.  Tesla's "Autopilot" feature is simply TACC + Lane-keeping.  Tesla's Enhanced Autopilot takes it a step further and adds in automatic lane changes based on traffic conditions and set speed.  There is a third level of Autopilot called "Navigate on Autopilot" which will navigate highway interchanges and take highway exits.  FSD (Supervised) - the current revised Tesla nomenclature - does all of the above plus navigation on city streets.

The vehicle in the article above was in "Autopilot" = TACC + Lane-keeping. 

Respectfully, I think the disconnect here is you're making this argument about you. I'm sure you're a wonderful and responsible beta tester for Tesla. It sounds like you have sincere appreciation for the technology. That's great. 

Most people though are morons. That includes Tesla owners. That's who we're talking about. And giving too many morons different options on how to "drive" their vehicle is dangerous, especially when a significant amount of them are Elon boot-lickers and/or Tesla investors. I'd guess there is an undeserved trust factor with some of these drivers. 

And maybe I'm clueless, but I haven't seen a person use Cruise Control since the late 80s when my dad would use it on road trips so he could open his mail. 

Edited April 23 by Hank Kingsley

[Judge Roybeanbag 11817]

SIAP.  

 

Quote

AUSTIN (Austin Business Journal) — Tesla Inc.’s huge electric vehicle factory in eastern Travis County will no longer be subject to city of Austin environmental regulations after the company used a new state law to have the property removed from the city’s extraterritorial jurisdiction.

The controversial law — which some municipalities are challenging in court — took effect Sept. 1 and allows landowners on the fringes of major cities to petition for such removal, freeing them up to develop with fewer restrictions.

https://www.kxan.com/news/business/tesla-uses-new-state-law-to-sidestep-austin-regulations-at-gigafactory/

 

[Captainant 27592]

27 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

SIAP.  

 

https://www.kxan.com/news/business/tesla-uses-new-state-law-to-sidestep-austin-regulations-at-gigafactory/

 

[Laughs in PFAS/PFOS emissions]

[crash_davis 23091]

https://gizmodo.com/tesla-motorcycle-crash-death-autopilot-washington-1851428850

Tesla Driver Charged With Killing Motorcyclist After Turning on Autopilot and Browsing His Phone

Your Tesla is not a "self driving car" no matter how hard you want to believe it.

A 28-year-old motorcyclist died in Washington State on Friday afternoon because a dipshit Tesla driver rear-ended him at speed. A Snohomish man, 56, was commuting in his 2022 Tesla Model S when he activated the car’s camera-based advanced driver assist system and according to his statements to police, began looking through his phone. With nobody paying attention to the car’s actions, the Tesla software ignored Jeffrey Nissen on his motorcycle and continued on at speed. The car rear-ended the two-wheeler, Nissen was flung from the bike, and his life ended pinned underneath the electric car, where he was still lodged when police arrived to the scene.

The Tesla driver, who told police he was “putting the trust in the machine to drive for him,” was inattentive to the road in front of him, and was only brought back to reality when he “heard a bang as the car lurched forward.” The driver was not impaired by drugs or alcohol, though he admitted to having an alcoholic beverage prior to the 3:54 p.m. crash.

[Guadaloopy 10945]

13 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Respectfully, I think the disconnect here is you're making this argument about you. I'm sure you're a wonderful and responsible beta tester for Tesla. It sounds like you have sincere appreciation for the technology. That's great. 

Most people though are morons. That includes Tesla owners. That's who we're talking about. And giving too many morons different options on how to "drive" their vehicle is dangerous, especially when a significant amount of them are Elon boot-lickers and/or Tesla investors. I'd guess there is an undeserved trust factor with some of these drivers. 

And maybe I'm clueless, but I haven't seen a person use Cruise Control since the late 80s when my dad would use it on road trips so he could open his mail. 

I hear you.  There are a lot of morons on the road and a lot of morons on the road in Teslas.

I get the sense that a large portion of Tesla’s early adopters bought their cars because of the technology and the perceived environmental benefits of EVs.  That group can be further broken down into technophiles and technoflexers.  The technophiles respected the technology and were genuinely interested in testing and experiencing it.  The technoflexers were more interested in creating viral videos of themselves sleeping behind the wheel while doing 80 on the freeway.  I think the technoflexers were a small, but very visible minority that saddled Tesla owners with a terrible image.

I say all of that to get around to this point - there have been a lot of FSD miles driven with very low accident rates.  Up until March of 2024,  there were only about 400K Tesla owners in the FSD beta program.  FSD beta has been in limited public release since October 2020, with more general availability since October 2022.  In 3.5 years, there have been very few accidents attributed to Teslas in FSD.   In March 2024, Tesla opened the floodgates and gave every Tesla driver a free month of FSD.  If this system was so irresponsible and inherently dangerous, we should have seen a spike of FSD-related accidents over the past month.  Maybe the data collection and reporting is lagging a bit, but we haven’t seen that spike as of yet.  
 

 

[Hank Kingsley 20901]

15 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

The Tesla driver, who told police he was “putting the trust in the machine to drive for him,” 

[C-Man 27172]

1 hour ago, Captain Ron said:

Never. This is what the whole lawsuit about his compensation pointed out - the board is beholden to him in way more of a way than they should be. They are all in on him.

 

If this was a rational BOD, they would have ejected him when he bough twitter.

Can the shareholders not revolt and replace the board/Elon when they feel the value of their investment is at risk? Or does Elon own too much Tesla stock for that? (I'm a market moron, BTW, and did not stay in a Holiday Inn last night.)

[Captain Ron 12845]

1 hour ago, C-Man said:

Can the shareholders not revolt and replace the board/Elon when they feel the value of their investment is at risk? Or does Elon own too much Tesla stock for that? (I'm a market moron, BTW, and did not stay in a Holiday Inn last night.)

In theory yes.

But the Board + Musk controls a lot of the shares. Combine that with so many shareholders being Elon stans it is very unlikely that you would get enough of a coalition to oust any of the Board. Even if you did, it would take a number of board seats, not just 1 or 2, to put Elon at risk.

Hell, just look at Disney, where an activist investor couldn't get on the board, even with a large number of shares in his corner.

[Foosters 17801]

From Reddit with the caption "My boss had this for a whole week before a semi trailer backed into it. On order for 4 1/2 years

[HenryJames 65971]

That'll buff right out.

[Prepuce of Doom 21047]

I don't think we've spent enough time mocking the tires on these things. 

[Samson's Wig 3187]

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

And maybe I'm clueless, but I haven't seen a person use Cruise Control since the late 80s when my dad would use it on road trips so he could open his mail. 

Fascinating. So you're one of those guys on the freeway.  Every time I get on an open highway it's obvious most people aren't aware cruise control even exists, especially younger drivers.    It's infuriating dealing with all the chucklefucks who will drive a couple of miles per hour slower than you would like to, but only speed up after you pass them and then slow right back down after they get in front of you again.  I gues they can't handle being behind someone.  Anyone who pulls that shit should lose their highway driving privileges.  Pick a fucking speed and stick with it. 

[Ted Lange 16078]

Unless you are driving during rush hour, why would you not use cruise control on the freeway?

[Hank Kingsley 20901]

Because I know how to control a gas pedal and maintain speed? And I like to pass slow drivers. 

[Hank Kingsley 20901]

12 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

Fascinating. So you're one of those guys on the freeway.  Every time I get on an open highway it's obvious most people aren't aware cruise control even exists, especially younger drivers.    It's infuriating dealing with all the chucklefucks who will drive a couple of miles per hour slower than you would like to, but only speed up after you pass them and then slow right back down after they get in front of you again.  I gues they can't handle being behind someone.  Anyone who pulls that shit should lose their highway driving privileges.  Pick a fucking speed and stick with it. 

Lol I’m the exact opposite type of driver you’re describing. 

[Deej 76738]

I drive a stick. Cruise control would be pretty pointless. Still have to manually shift .

Edited April 23 by Deej

[Brisketexan 104940]

10 minutes ago, Deej said:

I drive a stick. Cruise control would be pretty pointless. Still have to manually shift .

But I mean, do you, when you're already at highway speeds?  I used to drive a standard, with cruise control, and I used it on the highway plenty.

[MonkeyDoughnut 10212]

3 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

And maybe I'm clueless, but I haven't seen a person use Cruise Control since the late 80s when my dad would use it on road trips so he could open his mail. 

Whoa there ... Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) is the greatest highway driving advancement of my lifetime.

[atomheartbevo 89603]

45 minutes ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

I don't think we've spent enough time mocking the tires on these things. 

Hardcore.

[Samson's Wig 3187]

27 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Lol I’m the exact opposite type of driver you’re describing. 

 

29 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Because I know how to control a gas pedal and maintain speed? And I like to pass slow drivers. 

That's funny, because this post makes it seem like you're exactly the type of driver I was describing.  You're not maintaining your speed, you just think you are.  And that's the problem.   But go with God and all that.  Everyone thinks they're a great driver and almost all of us are wrong.  I'm certainly doing something regularly and obliviously that is pissing someone off. 

[atomheartbevo 89603]

3 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

SIAP.  

https://www.kxan.com/news/business/tesla-uses-new-state-law-to-sidestep-austin-regulations-at-gigafactory/

Good to know that companies that claim they are protecting the environment are wanting to avoid policies that protect the environment.

Edited April 23 by atomheartbevo

[Captainant 27592]

1 hour ago, Foosters said:

From Reddit with the caption "My boss had this for a whole week before a semi trailer backed into it. On order for 4 1/2 years

[Deej 76738]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

But I mean, do you, when you're already at highway speeds?  I used to drive a standard, with cruise control, and I used it on the highway plenty.

It's not difficult to keep consistent pressure on the gas pedal. Plus, adaptive cruise would kinda suck having to be aware that I need to up or downshift as the car speeds up or slows down. Id get lulled into complacency. It's already difficult enough when I'm three sheets to the wind.  (I kid)

Edited April 23 by Deej

[Brisketexan 104940]

Just now, Deej said:

It's not difficult to keep consistent pressure on the gas pedal. 

As someone who just made a round trip from S. Texas to Austin yesterday....I suspect a lot of people think the way you do, and they're all WAY fucking wrong.  I had to deal with driver after driver whose speed varied 10-15 mph, and it was maddening.  I just wanted to set my cruise and be done with it, but nope.

Maybe the "you can easily keep consistent SPEED" when the road is flat, but when it's rolling at all, hills of any sort, "consistent pressure on the gas pedal" doesn't come close to maintaining a set speed.  Just set the cruise control, and it will make the adjustments for you as the road elevates and drops (even slight grades influence speed).

Of course, the worst was the absolute flaming asshole in the Porsche SUV who, when we got to a stretch where there was a passing lane (so then we had two lanes on our side, the right lane for slow traffic, the left for passing), got in the left lane....and then just MATCHED the speed of the truck next to him.  They drove side-by-side almost the whole stretch, till the very end, when he finally accelerated to pass the truck....and I used the last 100 yards of lane to do the same.  Fucking asshole.