Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Ted Lange 15934]

Changing it from Twitter to X is a classic Musk move, just absolutely idiotic.  Also dumb, giving any idiot a bluecheck for $8 a month and boosting their idiocy.   Then you have the barrage of bots, everywhere, in your mentions, in every reply.   This was never the case until this dolt took over.   Then the ads, non-stop stream of shit, crappy dropship junk, scams, nutjob conservative politicians and conspiracy peddlers.    This is where Lists comes in handy, I have several different lists I use almost 95% of the time, why?   You get fed none of his 5th-rate ads if you use a list ZERO ads, vs the Followers/For You tab.   You simply pin the lists, and they sit right up top for you click on.

The only positive post-Musk taking over is community notes. 

 

[safe sex 11608]

@Macklemore What views were being "censored" that upset you so much that you like the hellhole that Twitter has become since Musk took over? 

 

Edited May 15 by safe sex

[Francisco 2.0 32214]

What the fuck.

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-s-cyberhammer-makes-sense-if-you-hit-yourself-wit-1851478583

 

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Despite, well, not being that tough, a big chunk of the Tesla Cybertruck’s perceived value is that it is super duper tough. The automaker seems to have realized this is a winning marketing strategy, so it decided to introduce a new product called the CyberHammer. Much like the truck, it’s just for show.

It’s meant to commemorate the Cybertruck’s unveiling 1,000 years ago when design chief Franz von Holzhausen took a sledgehammer to the site of the stainless steel truck to demonstrate its “toughness.” The spectacle clearly worked on the Tesla faithful. Anyway, just 800 of these hammers were built at $700 a pop, and I’m sorry to report that they’re already out of stock on Tesla’s website. If you’re a freak who wants one of these things anyway, head over to eBay. They’re being sold anywhere between $1,000 and $4,000. Good lord.

 

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The hammer itself was designed in Tesla’s design studio and is made of steel, according to the automaker. Its head comes with a laser etching of von Holzhausen’s signature that makes the CyberHammer “a true collectible.” Sure, bud. Sure.

I’m going to guess at this point that you are probably not a fan of the CyberHammer – much like me. It seems very weird and pointless, doesn’t it? Well, folks. It gets even dumber. At the bottom of Tesla’s webpage is a short message that lets everyone know what the CyberHammer is all about.

Note: Do not strike hard surfaces with CyberHammer. Intended for display or gym use.

 

 

 

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cyberhammer

 

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READY OR NOT, IT’S HAMMER TIME. NOW AVAILABLE TO A WIDER AUDIENCE, OUR LIMITED-RELEASE CYBERHAMMER COMMEMORATES THE CYBERTRUCK UNVEILING WHEN FRANZ USED A SLEDGEHAMMER TO SHOW THE TOUGHNESS OF THE VEHICLE’S STAINLESS-STEEL EXOSKELETON. DESIGNED BY TESLA DESIGN STUDIO AND MADE OF STEEL, CYBERHAMMER FEATURES A LASER ETCHING OF FRANZ’S SIGNATURE ON THE HEAD THAT MAKES THIS PIECE A TRUE COLLECTIBLE.

ONLY 800 HAMMERS BUILT - AVAILABLE ON TESLA SHOP AND THROUGH THE TESLA REFER AND EARN PROGRAM. CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY INCLUDED. LIMIT ONE PER TESLA ACCOUNT.

NOTE: DO NOT STRIKE HARD SURFACES WITH CYBERHAMMER. INTENDED FOR DISPLAY OR GYM USE. CYBERHAMMER IS FINAL SALE.

 

[HenryJames 65563]

33 minutes ago, safe sex said:

@Macklemore What views were being "censored" that upset you so much that you think the hellhole that Twitter has become since Musk took over? 

 

[Captain Ron 12722]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

He's pulling his own strings.

He's a narcissist.  Narcissists thrive on slavish adoration.  And it's less about the volume/number of adoring parties than it is about the degree of adoration among the adoring parties.  So, narcissists seek out audiences/groups who are likely to deliver what they need.  That slot is easily filled by the "redpill/incel/groyper" type crowd.

Elon needed something: knob-slobbering adoration.  He gets it by saying things that the knob-slobbering crowd loves to hear.  And that crowd LOVES hearing someone more powerful than them say what they are thinking/believe, because it gives them validation -- "see, we're not stupid!  ELON AGREES WITH US!  That means we think just like a super brain genius does!"

It's no much more complicated than a politician telling a crowd of UT students "It's great to be here at the GREATEST university in the state of Texas!" to get their adoring cheers....and then saying the EXACT same line to a crowd of aggy students later that afternoon.  It's about getting the adoration.

That you don't see yourself as one of the knob-slobberers is one of the least surprising things ever revealed on this board.

 

 

Would Macklemore really ever slobber knob?

 

But seriously, going back to the point I hate Musk for owning Twitter - negative ghost rider. I hate Musk for:

• Consistently overpromising and under delivering
• Being a liar about so many thing, like founding Tesla
• Becoming red pilled and swallowing so much conspiracy bullshit 
• Generally morphing into an asshole in the past few years, most of it post twitter acquisition, but he was starting to do it before buying it up too.

[hayden_horn 11311]

5 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Coke helps. 

lol at coke. you think this guy is acting like a guy who is on drugs? 

[Hank Kingsley 20147]

Not upset. We are laughing. 

[C-Man 26737]

10 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

What the fuck.

https://jalopnik.com/tesla-s-cyberhammer-makes-sense-if-you-hit-yourself-wit-1851478583

 

 

 

 

 

https://shop.tesla.com/product/cyberhammer

 

 

Do not upset Cyber Hammer?

[Parliament 14017]

4 hours ago, HenryJames said:

The inside story of Elon Musk’s mass firings of Tesla Supercharger staff (yahoo.com)

Just the dumbest fucking guy.

So it was a profitable business with well thought out locations and a significant cost advantage and lead over competitors.  It would be a cash cow.

And he axed it.  K.

[Captain Ron 12722]

2 hours ago, Macklemore said:

Elon was one of the first investors into Tesla and was actively involved before they produced their first EV car. That’s a founder in my book.

 

 

I get he was involved very early - but he wasn't a founder, despite his title. And look I get he did a lot while there - but the company is floundering BADLY now.

[C-Man 26737]

1 hour ago, Macklemore said:

I slob his knob when it comes to Twitter. That’s the only product of his that I use. I think changing the name of Twitter to X was stupid as hell. No one calls it X.

[Captain Ron 12722]

10 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Everyone seems to be so upset about the Cybertruck, which I don't really understand. It seems like it sucks, so that should be good enough, but Cybertruck haters seem to be emotionally bothered that the thing even exists. You wouldn't have it to make fun of everyday if it didn't exist!

The only people upset are:

• Those that had the gas pedal fail
• Those that had coolant leaks
• Those that drove it through a car wash
• Those that drove it 1 mile and had it die

Frankly - I don't care that much. I think the truck is silly. I kind of agree with MKBHD (aka Marques Brownlee) the truck tried  to do something, and it looks different. And that works when you have a small number of them (see Lambos and Bugattis) but when this car is mass produced - seeing it all the time is going to change the view.

[Macklemore 2856]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

@Macklemore What views were being "censored" that upset you so much that you like the hellhole that Twitter has become since Musk took over? 

 

Right-wing Twitter. Guys who were banned before and now are reinstated.

[Brisketexan 103650]

3 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

I agree with you-- it's a silly truck for silly people. But there are markets for that.

We have entire threads on this board where folks who love them some Elon are mocking silly people for taking silly positions/doing silly things (see, e.g., the discussion of campus pro-Palestine protests).  Pot, the kettle is calling.

[C-Man 26737]

4 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Definitely think that the people who bought the thing should be upset, but it seems as if they aren't really, at least from reading the viral tweets and such. It seems more that the Musk haters are mad that the Cybertruck even exists and is talked about and people dare and deign to drive one in their suburb. 

I agree with you-- it's a silly truck for silly people. But there are markets for that. Silly people have been buying silly vehicles en masse since whenever the Mazda Miata was produced.

It’s ugly. It’s dysfunctional as a pick-up or any other kind of SUV. It’s expensive and has a shit-load of bugs and other design flubs that 99.9% of other new vehicles don’t. It also wasn’t delivered anywhere near Elon’s timeline. What’s not to like?

[Zeus 5890]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

@Macklemore What views were being "censored" that upset you so much that you like the hellhole that Twitter has become since Musk took over? 

 

Just use instagram threads instead

 

[Brisketexan 103650]

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

It’s ugly. It’s dysfunctional as a pick-up or any other kind of SUV. It’s expensive and has a shit-load of bugs and other design flubs that 99.9% of other new vehicles don’t. It also wasn’t delivered anywhere near Elon’s timeline. What’s not to like?

All of those things would be just another product flop.

What makes it hysterically entertaining is 1) all of the fanbois eating their shit sandwich while proclaiming how delicious it is, as 2) Elon continues to insist that it's delicious.  Watching people utterly bitch-ify themselves will never not be entertaining.

[safe sex 11608]

5 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Right-wing Twitter. Guys who were banned before and now are reinstated.

But what were they saying that got them banned? What viewpoints of theirs were censored? I never saw anyone that talked about dismantling the welfare state get censored or banned. 

Hmmm. Makes ya think 🤔 

[C-Man 26737]

Just now, BeardIP said:

Of course it's unlikeable in the sense that you don't want to buy one. But it should be something that unites us all in ridicule, not the breathless indignation seen on this pages.

I ridicule his Tesla missteps as they have little to do with my life, and never will as I will never, ever buy a Tesla until he’s no longer affiliated with the company (and probably not even then). SpaceX has little bearing on my daily existence as well but, hey, that seems to be the venture of his that is doing the most “good.” Twitter/X is where I draw the line because of what that place has become under his watch. It has complete laid bare the man as an utter fool/fraud, who is amplifying some really bad actors either through stupidity at best and downright evil at worst. Again, I’ve been calling him Miles Bron since I saw The Glass Onion and I’m not backing off that today.

[C-Man 26737]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

All of those things would be just another product flop.

What makes it hysterically entertaining is 1) all of the fanbois eating their shit sandwich while proclaiming how delicious it is, as 2) Elon continues to insist that it's delicious.  Watching people utterly bitch-ify themselves will never not be entertaining.

Like our poster on here who keeps tying himself up into a pretzel defending the utter shit-show that FSD is?

[texasdago 7463]

2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

The proposal that humans will ever sustainably colonize Mars (much less in the next 30 years) is painfully stupid.

Never mind the obvious issues that Mars has no food and virtually no oxygen or water, so we would need to haul all that shit out there just to set up a small enclosure that could support life.

The bigger problems are geological. Mars has no global magnetic field. Couple that with the thin atmosphere, and the sun would bombard any human on Mars’s surface with ionizing radiation.  Even assuming we could eventually set up a colony there, its inhabitants would need to be artificially shielded (in spacesuits, under ground, etc.). 

And Mars has only 38% of Earth’s gravity. Living in reduced gravity long term could have all kinds of negative impacts on human health and could potentially fuck up our ability to reproduce. And the low gravity coupled with the lack of a magnetic field means any attempt to terraform Mars (i.e. create an Earth-like atmosphere) would be doomed to failure - the Sun would eventually blast it away. 

Can we solve this problem? Not in our lifetimes. You’d have to somehow slam Mars with asteroids or some shit for millennia, and wait for it the resultant composite to form a solid planet of sufficient mass. We’re talking about geological time scales here. And even then, there’s the problem of how to get a global magnetic field going on Mars. 

And further: even if we could do all of that, compared to Earth, Mars is 50% further from the Sun. Which means we can’t just add an atmosphere and some water and hope to replicate Earth’s climate there. (This problem would be exacerbated if we don’t go to the trouble of scaling Mars up to Earth’s size and mass).

It’s fun to ponder extraterrestrial colonization and space exploration is important if for no other reason than it expands our knowledge. But talk of a near-term sustainable colony anywhere outside of the thin little habitable shell on our home planet is fucking idiocy. 

I agree.

People who are all bought in on this idea of a Utopian society on Mars believe that Sea Monkeys look like this...

[Brisketexan 103650]

1 minute ago, texasdago said:

I agree.

People who are all bought in on this idea of a Utopian society on Mars believe that Sea Monkeys look like this...

 

You just knew that lady sea monkey was dirty.

 

 

Oh sure, like I was the ONLY ONE who thought that.  Please.

[Deej 76218]

2 hours ago, Macklemore said:

I slob his knob when it comes to Twitter. That’s the only product of his that I use. I think changing the name of Twitter to X was stupid as hell. No one calls it X.

You probably think he was a founder of Twitter.

[Captain Ron 12722]

44 minutes ago, Macklemore said:

Right-wing Twitter. Guys who were banned before and now are reinstated.

Give a clear example of normal speech that was censored that shouldn’t have been.  

[High Plains Drifter 10937]

2 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

The proposal that humans will ever sustainably colonize Mars (much less in the next 30 years) is painfully stupid.

Never mind the obvious issues that Mars has no food and virtually no oxygen or water, so we would need to haul all that shit out there just to set up a small enclosure that could support life.

The bigger problems are geological. Mars has no global magnetic field. Couple that with the thin atmosphere, and the sun would bombard any human on Mars’s surface with ionizing radiation.  Even assuming we could eventually set up a colony there, its inhabitants would need to be artificially shielded (in spacesuits, under ground, etc.). 

And Mars has only 38% of Earth’s gravity. Living in reduced gravity long term could have all kinds of negative impacts on human health and could potentially fuck up our ability to reproduce. And the low gravity coupled with the lack of a magnetic field means any attempt to terraform Mars (i.e. create an Earth-like atmosphere) would be doomed to failure - the Sun would eventually blast it away. 

Can we solve this problem? Not in our lifetimes. You’d have to somehow slam Mars with asteroids or some shit for millennia, and wait for it the resultant composite to form a solid planet of sufficient mass. We’re talking about geological time scales here. And even then, there’s the problem of how to get a global magnetic field going on Mars. 

And further: even if we could do all of that, compared to Earth, Mars is 50% further from the Sun. Which means we can’t just add an atmosphere and some water and hope to replicate Earth’s climate there. (This problem would be exacerbated if we don’t go to the trouble of scaling Mars up to Earth’s size and mass).

It’s fun to ponder extraterrestrial colonization and space exploration is important if for no other reason than it expands our knowledge. But talk of a near-term sustainable colony anywhere outside of the thin little habitable shell on our home planet is fucking idiocy. 

 

Huh, unlike elmo, you sound like you know what you are talking about.

 

also, obligatory, 

Global Magnetic Fields, how do they work?

 

 

[ultimaton 2954]

5 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Give a clear example of normal speech that was censored that shouldn’t have been.  

he's openly shared on here (or shaggy, fuck if I remember) his masturbatory fantasies of going down to the border and shooting migrant families. pretty sure he thinks the nasty shit spewed by the likes of nick fuentes is normal speech.

Edited May 15 by ultimaton

[Zeus 5890]

4 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Give a clear example of normal speech that was censored that shouldn’t have been.  

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/laura-loomer-banned-twitter/

Loomer said Twitter informed her she was banned for violating rules against hateful statements after she posted that Minnesota Representative-elect Ilhan Omar was "anti Jewish." Loomer's tweet, one of many that she had posted criticizing Omar and other prominent Muslim figures, said the incoming congresswoman was part of a faith in which "homosexuals are oppressed" and "women are abused."

 

 

https://reason.com/2018/11/26/twitter-permanently-banned-conservative/

 

 

Meanwhile this was fine

 

 

[wildcat09 28562]

Lol, Zeus is caping for this: 

[DigglerontheHoof 20595]

[Born to Run 6356]

Do not upset Cyber Hammer?

Do not taunt Cyber Hammer.

[Born to Run 6356]

Give a clear example of normal speech that was censored that shouldn’t have been.  

Murdering brown people for fun.

[Foosters 17638]

36 minutes ago, Zeus said:

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/laura-loomer-banned-twitter/

Loomer said Twitter informed her she was banned for violating rules against hateful statements after she posted that Minnesota Representative-elect Ilhan Omar was "anti Jewish." Loomer's tweet, one of many that she had posted criticizing Omar and other prominent Muslim figures, said the incoming congresswoman was part of a faith in which "homosexuals are oppressed" and "women are abused."

 

 

https://reason.com/2018/11/26/twitter-permanently-banned-conservative/

 

 

Meanwhile this was fine

 

 

LOL

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Following the ban, Loomer handcuffed herself to the door of Twitter's New York City headquarters. During the protest, Loomer wore a yellow star reminiscent of the Star of David that Jewish people were forced to wear under Nazi-occupied Europe during World War II.

 

[bolverk 29097]

It's interesting to go through the list of notable account suspensions and reinstatements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_suspensions

[Mittens 8036]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

Just use instagram threads instead

 

[Sawbonz 26892]

4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

He's pulling his own strings.

He's a narcissist.  Narcissists thrive on slavish adoration.  And it's less about the volume/number of adoring parties than it is about the degree of adoration among the adoring parties.  So, narcissists seek out audiences/groups who are likely to deliver what they need.  That slot is easily filled by the "redpill/incel/groyper" type crowd.

Elon needed something: knob-slobbering adoration.  He gets it by saying things that the knob-slobbering crowd loves to hear.  And that crowd LOVES hearing someone more powerful than them say what they are thinking/believe, because it gives them validation -- "see, we're not stupid!  ELON AGREES WITH US!  That means we think just like a super brain genius does!"

It's no much more complicated than a politician telling a crowd of UT students "It's great to be here at the GREATEST university in the state of Texas!" to get their adoring cheers....and then saying the EXACT same line to a crowd of aggy students later that afternoon.  It's about getting the adoration.

That you don't see yourself as one of the knob-slobberers is one of the least surprising things ever revealed on this board.

[Ted Lange 15934]

Look at this freak, a rightwing star.  

 

   

[wood 10962]

nsiap ...

Just got this email from the Guardian UK.

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Hi wood,

Yesterday, Elon Musk posted this on Twitter/X:

The Guardian
Vulgarity aside, “misanthropic” is an odd choice of word with which to attack a news organization. We don’t hate people. We exist only to serve people: to give the public free and accurate information about what’s going on in the world.

That’s more than can be said for Twitter/X, a platform which – under Musk’s ownership and encouragement – has spread misinformation, conspiracy theories and hate.

The Guardian is skeptical of plutocrats and entrenched power. From Musk to the Murdochs, a small number of billionaire owners have a powerful hold on much of the world’s information – and what they spread is often distorting and destructive.

The Guardian is different: with no billionaire owner, we are free to seek the truth and lift up important stories that people ought to know – and free to care less what Musk or any billionaire thinks of us.

Thanks to readers like you all over the world contributing what you can, we will continue to publish fearless, independent journalism – whether the rich and powerful like it or not.

Will you support that mission?

Yours,
The Guardian

 

 

Edited May 15 by wood

[Braff Zacklin 13299]

8 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

   

[wood 10962]

4 hours ago, BrickHorn said:

The proposal that humans will ever sustainably colonize Mars (much less in the next 30 years) is painfully stupid.

Never mind the obvious issues that Mars has no food and virtually no oxygen or water, so we would need to haul all that shit out there just to set up a small enclosure that could support life.

The bigger problems are geological. Mars has no global magnetic field. Couple that with the thin atmosphere, and the sun would bombard any human on Mars’s surface with ionizing radiation.  ...

No problem. Just send Buckaroo Banzai.

[KaiserSoze 997]

6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, he has answered it.  By his results.  The Cybertruck.  Firing masses of people actually essential for his core business, etc.  Half-assed thinking yields shitty results. 

 

I saw one today at 5th/Lamar. The "stainless" steel exterior looked like a pool that hadn't been treated or cleaned in months. 

[C-Man 26737]

52 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

[Prepuce of Doom 20906]

3 hours ago, BeardIP said:

 

I agree with you-- it's a silly truck for silly people. But there are markets for that. Silly people have been buying silly vehicles en masse since whenever the Mazda Miata was produced.

It's perfectly fine that you don't know anything about cars, but this is a truly terrible take. 

[Captainant 26927]

13 minutes ago, KaiserSoze said:

 

I saw one today at 5th/Lamar. The "stainless" steel exterior looked like a pool that hadn't been treated or cleaned in months. 

It's stain "less", not stain free lol. And musk used a lower grade of stainless and didn't do a surface passivation. There's been a few CT owners that have been scrubbing their truck down with barkeeper's friend to accomplish the same thing 

[Fudge Nuggets 18995]

3 hours ago, BeardIP said:

Of course it's unlikeable in the sense that you don't want to buy one. But it should be something that unites us all in ridicule, not the breathless indignation seen on this pages.

Just because you keep posting this doesn't make it true.  Learn to read the room and move on.

[Deej 76218]

3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

There's been a few CT owners that have been scrubbing their truck down with barkeeper's friend to accomplish the same thing 

They might want to verify that doesn't void their warranty.

[Born to Run 6356]

It's perfectly fine that you don't know anything about cars, but this is a truly terrible take. 

Yeah the Avalanche, Aztek, or 80s era Cutlas would be a good example. While not my jam, Miatas freaking rip and are fun as shit on a drive up Lime Creek rd

[Captainant 26927]

13 minutes ago, Deej said:

They might want to verify that doesn't void their warranty.

Just another testament that Tesla skipped a pretty standard step when dealing with wear surface stainless steel. They wouldn't be having all the rusting problems and it would be even more MANLYTOUGH after the EXTREMELY HARDCORE ACID DIP

[safe sex 11608]

23 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Just because you keep posting this doesn't make it true.  Learn to read the room and move on.

He can't.

[tbone_ 13991]

Yeah the Avalanche, Aztek, or 80s era Cutlas would be a good example. While not my jam, Miatas freaking rip and are fun as shit on a drive up Lime Creek rd

Uh the 80s Cutlass does not belong in that group of wretched examples of mechanical abortions

[atomheartbevo 89044]

2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Lol, Zeus is caping for this: 

That's what happens when you leave a Real Doll in the oven too long.