Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Ted Lange 16,426]

 

[Tex Long 4,665]

15 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

1, 2

Because sometimes tits>redhead

 

[Hank Kingsley 21,793]

Estrogen levels: HIGH 

 

[SizzleChest 8,314]

1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

Brilliant engineer doesn’t know that Mars has a soft vacuum - the pressure is something like over 100 times less than Earth’s atmospheric pressure, not to mention mostly carbon dioxide.

Bur mainly I wanted to post a video showing how he is morphing into the CyberTruck

 

Profile is starting to look like Donny.

[C-Man 27,789]

23 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

Profile is starting to look like Donny.

Or Gru.

[Prepuce of Doom 21,288]

Or Dickbutt. 

[Hank Kingsley 21,793]

 

[atomheartbevo 90,660]

Some people will do anything to get Grimes’s attention.

[Francisco 2.0 32,603]

 

https://9to5mac.com/2024/06/10/elon-musk-calls-ios-18-a-security-violation-for-integrating-chatgpt-says-he-will-ban-use-of-apple-devices-at-tesla/

 

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iOS 18 includes a swathe of new Apple Intelligence features, as well as integration with ChatGPT for things like image generation and writing assistance. Users can optionally pass off their Siri requests to ChatGPT, for example.

Elon Musk has just heard the news about iOS 18, and is weighing on with his elevated thoughts. He describes the OpenAI integration as an “unacceptable security violation” and threatens to ban the use of Apple devices at his companies, including Tesla, SpaceX and X.

 

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The tech exec continued that visitors will be required to hand over their Apple phones upon arrival at his companies, with the devices stored in a Faraday cage.

It’s unclear if Musk watched the Apple AI announcement during the WWDC keynote, or if he is reacting off the cuff. Musk, of course, runs xAI which is a direct competitor to OpenAI.

It is true that ChatGPT is deeply integrated into iOS 18, but only if the user gives explicit permission. There is little effective difference compared to downloading the ChatGPT app from the App Store, aside from more convenient access.

 

 

 

 

[SizzleChest 8,314]

[Bozo_Casanova 26,867]

 

For $270 you can take a MIssion to Uranus

 

 

[Deej 77,852]

At least Hitler had some charisma. Elon, not so much..

[Captain Ron 13,133]

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Brilliant engineer doesn’t know that Mars has a soft vacuum - the pressure is something like over 100 times less than Earth’s atmospheric pressure, not to mention mostly carbon dioxide.

Bur mainly I wanted to post a video showing how he is morphing into the CyberTruck

 

 

No wonder this guy doesn't have a PR department, as great of a speaker he is.

 

Jesus, the first 1:20 of that video is blovating. He repeats himself 3 maybe 4 times. He could have said the first part in about 20 seconds.

[Ted Lange 16,426]

 

[BearMace 2,244]

28 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

 

No wonder this guy doesn't have a PR department, as great of a speaker he is.

 

Jesus, the first 1:20 of that video is blovating. He repeats himself 3 maybe 4 times. He could have said the first part in about 20 seconds.

It was like watching a hungover frat kid trying to fake it though a presentation. You can hear it in his wavering voice that he's knows he's full of shit.

[Captain Ron 13,133]

2 hours ago, Ted Lange said:

 

Zuck in 2013

 

Jeff in 2014

 

 

 

But sure Elmo, you can totally disrupt this space.

[Ted Lange 16,426]

He could buy Jitterbug, rebrand it to CyberPhone X, and sell it to the simps.   He’d probably get 50B in initial investor funding.  

[atomheartbevo 90,660]

3 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

No wonder this guy doesn't have a PR department, as great of a speaker he is.

Jesus, the first 1:20 of that video is blovating. He repeats himself 3 maybe 4 times. He could have said the first part in about 20 seconds.

2 hours ago, BearMace said:

It was like watching a hungover frat kid trying to fake it though a presentation. You can hear it in his wavering voice that he's knows he's full of shit.

It’s hard to keep a train of thought going when 75% of your brain is focused on holding your gut in.

[HenryJames 67,410]

The dumbest shit.

[InkaUtexas 26,909]

How long until Apple products no longer work  in Teslas?

[Chopper 17,432]

[C-Man 27,789]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/tech/elon-musk-drops-openai-lawsuit/index.html

Elon Musk drops lawsuit after OpenAI published his emails

[HenryJames 67,410]

Concerning.

[27-25 2,085]

On 6/10/2024 at 10:48 AM, tbone_ said:

What is Afd? And no I don’t want to google it.

Alternative for Germany, far right political party.  Alarmingly, just came in second in the EU elections in Germany.  Members have engaged in various forms of violence, bribery and accepting money from Russian sources (gasp!).

I was in Germany a couple of weeks ago and yes, their political posters around the towns all look mostly tame.  Not a swastika to be found!  But Elmo obviously didn't look much deeper at their underlying actions, motives and history.

[Brisketexan 106,944]

36 minutes ago, C-Man said:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/11/tech/elon-musk-drops-openai-lawsuit/index.html

Elon Musk drops lawsuit after OpenAI published his emails

You know, I may have to soften my stance on Elon.  He seems to be furthering something dear to my heart, like few others have done: because of him, lawyers are getting PAID.

Do stupid shit to get sued?  Plaintiffs' lawyers get paid, Elon's defense lawyers get paid.

File stupid suits?  Elon's lawyers get paid, defense lawyers get paid.

 

Lawyers getting paid, everywhere.  

[Chopper 17,432]

I was working on my comedy routine. Got no help.

[Francisco 2.0 32,603]

Elon has blocked the world from Apple

 

 

 

 

[Brisketexan 106,944]

3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Elon has blocked the world from Apple

 

 

 

 

But......champion of free speech!!!!!

[Chopper 17,432]

4 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Elon has blocked the world from Apple

Maybe he'll lose the shareholder vote this week, have yet another hissy, and block everyone from himself.

[Ted Lange 16,426]

17 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Elon has blocked the world from Apple

 

 

 

 

fake

[Francisco 2.0 32,603]

6 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

fake

 

I'm blocked, and if I go to view Apple's posts, there are none.

 

 

 

Edited June 11 by Francisco 2.0

[mdmost 44,073]

5 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

fake

Not fake. This is what I see when I look up Apple on Twitter. They have no posts or replies. Apple Music and Apple TV have posts. 

Edited June 11 by mdmost

[Ted Lange 16,426]

They have never posted, you arent blocked.

[Francisco 2.0 32,603]

I never blocked Apple, but I show it as blocked, as many others do.  

 

 

[mdmost 44,073]

4 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

They have never posted, you arent blocked.

I highly doubt Apple has never posted on X when they post a lot for both Apple Music and Apple TV. So either they never posted which I highly doubt or they were scrubbed to no posts. And there are a lot of replies and screenshots of people who show Apple is blocked for them. 

Edited June 11 by mdmost

[Francisco 2.0 32,603]

Just now, mdmost said:

I highly doubt Apple has never posted on X when they post a lot for both Apple Music and Apple TV. So either they never posted which I highly doubt or they were scrubbed to no posts. 

 

In looking further, they do post...but their post count is 0 because every one of their tweets is a "promoted" tweet.

 

 

 

 

[mdmost 44,073]

4 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

In looking further, they do post...but their post count is 0 because every one of their tweets is a "promoted" tweet.

 

 

 

 

Then that makes sense but if people were auto blocked, that's definitely petty overreach from the champion of free speech. 

[SizzleChest 8,314]

4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Then that makes sense but if people were auto blocked, that's definitely petcunty overreach from the champion of free speech. 

fify

[Ted Lange 16,426]

5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Then that makes sense but if people were auto blocked, that's definitely petty overreach from the champion of free speech. 

 

If Twitter did that I agree, and some people have Apple blocked, who didn't block Apple.   But not everyone had them auto blocked, like you and me.

[Captain Ron 13,133]

So I used a fake temporary email account to create a fake twitter account to test this out.

So Apple has a weird account, they clearly tweet:

But their profile shows 0 tweets.

 

It has been this way for years because I see article as far back as 2017 that people have noted this. Now I have a fresh account and Apple isn't blocked, so he hasn't done it across the board.

[wildcat09 29,595]

2 hours ago, 27-25 said:

Alternative for Germany, far right political party.  Alarmingly, just came in second in the EU elections in Germany.  Members have engaged in various forms of violence, bribery and accepting money from Russian sources (gasp!).

I was in Germany a couple of weeks ago and yes, their political posters around the towns all look mostly tame.  Not a swastika to be found!  But Elmo obviously didn't look much deeper at their underlying actions, motives and history.

I never want to underestimate Elon’s stupidity, but he knows exactly what AfD is. He’s promoting Nazis while trying to pretend otherwise. This is not the first time he’s done so.

[Brisketexan 106,944]

I never want to underestimate Elon’s stupidity, but he knows exactly what AfD is. He’s promoting Nazis while trying to pretend otherwise. This is not the first time he’s done so.

This. There’s nothing innocent about his question.

[bolverk 30,349]

46 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I never want to underestimate Elon’s stupidity, but he knows exactly what AfD is. He’s promoting Nazis while trying to pretend otherwise. This is not the first time he’s done so.

I dumped it for good last fall when he retweeted some antisemitic shit or was promoting an antisemitic account. I can't recall many specifics, but it was from some neo-Nazi group/individual. It was bad enough that I quit it on the spot without much reflection and determined I'd never go back. I can't understand why some people who purport to be such vocal supporters of the Jewish people in general or Israel, in particular, continue to have an account on that site. Whatever marginal value they derive from their feeds is more important, I guess.

[Sawbonz 28,232]

On 6/10/2024 at 12:40 PM, Chopper said:

A reminder that everytime you go to twitter you are supporting a full-fledged neo-nazi, even though he's too big of a pussy to explicitly say it.

 

[Sawbonz 28,232]

8 hours ago, Chopper said:

[HenryJames 67,410]

https://www.wsj.com/business/elon-musk-spacex-employee-relationships-8bca2806

 

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Elon Musk’s Boundary-Blurring Relationships With Women at SpaceX

The billionaire founder had sex with an employee and a former intern, and asked a woman at his company to have his babies

By Joe Palazzolo

 

 and Khadeeja Safdar

 

June 11, 2024 at 10:46 pm ET

She and Musk had met years earlier during her internship, when she was still in college. She’d approached him with ideas for improving SpaceX. Her outreach had led to a date, which led to a kiss, and eventually sex, she told friends. The year after her internship, the billionaire had the fresh college graduate flown out to a resort in Sicily, before they ended things, according to documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

Musk, who is more than 20 years her senior, attempted to restart their relationship but she rejected his advance. They remained close as she tried to establish herself in the new job.  

He texted her often and invited her to come over to his Los Angeles mansion at night on multiple occasions. Sometimes she accepted his invitations, but friends said she told them at the time that his behavior made her job harder.

She eventually moved off Musk’s executive team, according to friends she told and to people familiar with her time at SpaceX. The woman left the company in 2019.

Her lawyers, who also represent Musk, provided the Journal with two affidavits signed by the woman. The affidavits disputed some aspects of the Journal’s reporting but confirmed many others, including that she had a romantic relationship with Musk in the past. She said she invited him to dinner near the end of her summer internship and broke things off the following year. 

She said at no point during employment at SpaceX from 2017 to 2019 was there any “romantic relationship” with Musk.

“Nothing that Elon Musk did towards me during either of my periods of employment at SpaceX was predatory or wrongful in any way,” the woman said.

Elon Musk speaking at the unveiling of SpaceX’s Dragon V2 spacecraft in 2014.Photo: Mario Anzuoni/Reuters

She is one of several female employees at SpaceX who have told friends, family, or the company itself, that Musk showed them an unusual amount of attention or pursued them.

One woman, a SpaceX flight attendant, alleged that in 2016 Musk exposed himself to her and offered to buy her a horse in exchange for sex acts.

Another woman who left the company in 2013 alleged in exit negotiations with SpaceX human resources and legal executives that Musk had asked her to have his babies.

A fourth woman had a month-long sexual relationship with Musk in 2014 while she directly reported to him. The relationship ended badly, leading to recriminations over text and email as she left the company and signed an agreement prohibiting her from discussing her work for Musk.

Former SpaceX executives, as well as fired SpaceX employees who complained to the National Labor Relations Board in 2022, say a high-level group around Musk fails to apply his company’s own rules to the CEO, contributing to a culture of sexism and harassment.

They say there’s an understanding that Musk, a charismatic leader with many fans who call him a genius, can act with impunity. “Elon is SpaceX, and SpaceX is Elon,” one former engineer recalled an executive saying during a June 2022 meeting after the firings of some of the SpaceX employees, who had criticized Musk and demanded greater accountability at the company.

Musk, who is one of the richest men in the world, leads companies including the publicly traded electric-vehicle maker Tesla, rocket-maker SpaceX and social-media platform X.

SpaceX has won billions in federal contracts, and is key to NASA and Pentagon space programs. Tesla, meanwhile, is holding a shareholder vote that closes on June 13 over Musk’s $46 billion pay package, which was struck down by a Delaware court in January because of concerns about the approval process.

Musk didn’t reply to requests for comment.

Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX’s president and chief operating officer, said the Journal’s reporting doesn’t reflect SpaceX’s culture.

“The untruths, mischaracterizations, and revisionist history in your email paint a completely misleading narrative,” she said. “I continue to be amazed by what this extraordinary group of people are achieving every day even amidst all the forces acting against us. And Elon is one of the best humans I know.”

She said SpaceX fully investigates all complaints of harassment and takes appropriate actions.

Other behavior by Musk, including his use of illegal drugs, has raised concerns among some executives and board members of SpaceX and Tesla, according to previous Journal reporting. Musk has used drugs including LSD, cocaine, ecstasy, mushrooms and ketamine, at times with some board members, the Journal has reported.

An attorney for Musk, Alex Spiro, said at the time that Musk is “regularly and randomly drug tested at SpaceX and has never failed a test.” He said “there are other false facts” in the reporting about Musk’s drug use but didn’t detail them.

SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, Calif.Photo: Mario Anzuoni/Reuters

Encounters with Musk

This article is based on conversations with more than four dozen people, including former employees, people familiar with Musk’s interactions with female subordinates and friends and family of the women. The Journal also reviewed emails, text messages and other documents.

Since 2017, the era of MeToo has resulted in a pronounced cultural shift that has put more scrutiny on the conduct of executives in the workplace. Good-governance norms in the corporate world have shifted toward hard bans on supervisor-employee sexual relationships, out of concern for their potential to create power imbalances and conflicts of interest in the workplace.

Federal and state laws bar supervisors from sexually harassing employees. Some courts have recognized “sexual favoritism” as a form of harassment, blessing claims of a hostile work environment by employees who alleged that their bosses gave preferential treatment to colleagues with whom they were having consensual affairs.

A SpaceX policy discourages employees from directly overseeing romantic partners. 

The women who described the encounters with Musk had jobs that meant they worked closely with him.

The college student studying engineering met Musk in the early 2010s during her summer internship at SpaceX. Musk and the woman went out for a meal after she sent him ideas about how to improve the company, she told friends. They bonded over “Star Wars” and kissed.

A year later, the chief executive arranged for the woman to meet him at a resort in Sicily, where he was attending an exclusive conference sponsored by Google, according to documents reviewed by the Journal. 

The woman’s passport was in another city at the time so Musk had arrangements made for a friend of hers to bring it to the woman on an early morning domestic flight, documents show. The woman was then scheduled on a first-class flight to London and a private jet to Italy, the documents show.

The former intern told friends not to speak with Journal reporters and later said that she didn’t want to be part of an article, following outreach from the Journal. 

Clare Locke, a Virginia-based law firm that also represents Musk and Tesla, sent the Journal legal letters on behalf of the woman that demanded her removal from the article. The affidavits signed by the woman were attached to the letters.

The woman said in one of the affidavits that after she broke off the relationship with Musk they remained friends.

‘Nothing out of the ordinary’

In 2017, Musk personally contacted the former intern about a fulltime job at SpaceX, which would be to find problems at the company and fix them. She moved from New York to the Los Angeles area to become a member of Musk’s executive staff. Former employees said that while she was a talented engineer, they found it odd that someone so junior was given such a high-profile role so close to the boss. 

She said in one of the affidavits that she believes she was one of many candidates for the role.

After she arrived in California, Musk invited her for drinks and came on to her, touching her breast, friends said she told them at the time. One of them said the woman recalled Musk saying, “Oh, I’m so bad. I shouldn’t be doing this.” 

In one of her affidavits, she said, without providing details, “Elon tried to rekindle our relationship prior to my employment, and I rejected the advance. While there was some initial awkwardness, it was nothing out of the ordinary after a rejection.”

She told friends that she was unhappy at SpaceX, had no authority and had trouble getting executives to take her ideas seriously. She told one friend that she sometimes hid in the bathroom at SpaceX.

Musk speaks at a SpaceX event in 2018.Photo: Patrick T. Fallon/Bloomberg News

She said in one of the affidavits that her feelings about her job at SpaceX “were completely unrelated to any romantic or personal interactions with Elon Musk.”

“I came into a very difficult role as a newcomer into an established company,” she said in the affidavit.

She visited Musk at his home multiple times, as she struggled at work to establish herself, according to people familiar with the matter and friends she confided in.

“He would text her, like a lot,” said one of the friends. When she didn’t respond to a nighttime invitation to come over to his house, Musk texted her name repeatedly, the friend recalled.

About half a year into her job, the woman received another invitation from Musk to come to his house, according to a text exchange reviewed by the Journal.

“Come by!” he wrote. When she didn’t respond, he peppered her with more texts: 

“Look, it’s either me or 6am [exercise] :)”

“Just finished the Model 3 production call. It’s def going to be hell for several more months.”

“Are you coming over? If not, I will probably tranq out. Too stressed to sleep naturally.”

When she still hadn’t responded, he wrote, “Probably best if we don’t see each other.”

The woman texted him in the morning. “Oh man. I’m sorry, I’d already fallen asleep. I’ve been a late night person most of my life but have been trying to switch over because it seems responsible. Tbh. Sorry I crashed last night,” she wrote.

Later that day, she shared the text exchange with a friend. 

“Dude not gonna lie the fact that I have mild society[sic] anxiety resulting from imposter syndrome definitely makes this job harder,” the woman wrote in a text. “And that’s definitely exacerbated by Elon’s behavior.”

“I was wondering about that,” her friend responded.

“So badly,” she said.

“I mean if hanging out with him stresses you out about work maybe you might want to let things chill? I dunno.”

“Well I mean I think he broke up with me this morning. If I interpreted that last text 😆,” she wrote.

She then sent her friend a copy of Musk’s string of messages asking her to come over.

“Why are so many of the men in my life so weiiiiirrddddd,” she wrote.

The woman said in an email provided by her lawyers that her comment about Musk breaking up with her was a joke. His text message to her, she said, “was not referring to a romantic relationship.”

She said Musk’s lack of interest in roles such as hers is what made her job more difficult, and that her background expertise “made an already difficult role even more difficult.”

She said in one of the affidavits that she and Musk texted frequently as she supported him through difficulties, including issues at Tesla and his divorce from actress Talulah Riley. He was married to Riley when the woman and Musk were in a romantic relationship years earlier. They divorced in 2016.

Musk with then-wife Talulah Riley in February 2014 at a state dinner hosted by President Barack Obama in honor of French President François Hollande.Photo: Andrew Harrer/Pool/Getty Images

On the few occasions that she went to Musk’s house, the woman said in one of the affidavits, they watched TV and talked. In the email, she said they watched anime and talked about the Tesla Model 3 production ramp up and the “technical future of humanity.”

Friends said she told them at the time that the job wasn’t going well because it had gotten awkward with Musk. Eventually she moved off the executive staff to a role reporting to another engineer. 

The woman said in one of the affidavits that she requested the move and “worked out an arrangement that would give me better support for my daily responsibilities at the company.” 

She exited SpaceX in 2019 after an executive she reported to was included in a mass layoff, she said in one of the affidavits.

Defended by leadership

One incident of alleged sexual harassment of workers by Musk has surfaced publicly, in a 2022 report by Business Insider about the flight attendant who told SpaceX that Musk exposed himself to her and asked her for sex.

The woman, who worked on contract for SpaceX, alleged in a 2018 mediation with the company that Musk showed her his erect penis and offered her a horse in return for sex acts as she gave him a massage during a flight, according to people familiar with the allegations. SpaceX cut her shifts back after she rejected his advances, she alleged. The company agreed to pay her $250,000. 

Musk called the flight attendant’s allegations “utterly untrue.” In social-media posts, he joked that the scandal should be called “Elongate” and denied that he used a flight attendant on his plane. 

But he had used flight attendants in the past, including in 2016, when the woman alleged Musk’s proposition had taken place, according to former SpaceX employees as well as LinkedIn profiles of former SpaceX flight attendants.

Shotwell, Musk’s No. 2 at SpaceX, defended him against the flight attendant’s allegations in a companywide email after the news report. “Personally, I believe the allegations to be false; not because I work for Elon, but because I have worked closely with him for 20 years and never seen nor heard anything resembling these allegations,” she wrote. 

Musk boarding a SpaceX jet in Beijing last year. Photo: Jade Gao/AFP/Getty Images

Musk’s denials and Shotwell’s email prompted SpaceX employees to post an internal letter protesting what they viewed as the company’s failure to take harassment allegations seriously. 

Eight of them who were fired after the letter subsequently filed complaints with the NLRB, alleging they were terminated for speaking up. SpaceX denies the allegations in that ongoing case and is seeking a court ruling that the agency’s process is unconstitutional.

‘Civilization is going to crumble’

In the summer of 2013, a woman who reported directly to Musk left the company and later returned with a lawyer. She alleged that Musk had asked her on multiple occasions to have his babies, according to people familiar with the allegations.

Musk, who has at least 10 children, has said that the world faces an underpopulation crisis and that people with high IQs should procreate. He has encouraged some of his employees to have children. He has spoken of the need to colonize Mars to protect the human species in the event of a cataclysm on Earth. Sending people to the red planet is a long-held ambition that animates his work at SpaceX.

“If people don’t have more children, civilization is going to crumble. Mark my words,” Musk said in a 2021 interview with the Journal.

Musk had children with an employee in 2021. He and Shivon Zilis, an executive at Musk’s Neuralink brain-implant company, share twins. Zilis has said Musk encouraged her to have children and later offered to be the sperm donor. “I can’t possibly think of genes I would prefer for my children,” Zilis is quoted as saying in “Elon Musk,” a biography by author Walter Isaacson.

But the woman at SpaceX declined Musk’s offer. She had continued working for Musk after he asked her to have his children, but their relationship deteriorated. Besides the baby allegations, Musk had denied the woman a raise and complained about her performance, according to people familiar with the matter. 

The woman received an exit package of cash and stock valued at more than $1 million, according to a person familiar with the agreement. 

Planning a party

The same year that woman left SpaceX, 2013, Shotwell made allegations of her own: The executive accused one of her employees of having an affair with her husband, and then allegedly retaliated against the woman, according to the employee’s account to friends and family and emails she showed them at the time.

On her own time, the woman had helped Shotwell’s husband, Robert, plan a surprise Western-themed 50th birthday party for Shotwell, her boss. Robert sent boxes containing bull horns and other Western decor to the employee’s house for the party. Before leaving town to visit her family for Thanksgiving, the woman called Robert to arrange for him to pick up the boxes while she was away. 

“So, your call last night was not good,” Robert wrote to the woman in a November 2013 email, with the subject line “Trouble.” “She accused us of having an affair…Be prepared when she gets in.”

The employee was on a plane with her brother when she got the email, which she later shared with her family. The accusation shocked and mortified her, her brother said. 

Gwynne Shotwell, SpaceX president and chief operating officer, at an event at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston in 2015. Photo: Brett Coomer/Houston Chronicle/Getty Images

“I hope you realize that this puts me in a very awkward position with my boss and makes me super uncomfortable,” she replied to Robert. 

He emailed her after the party to thank her for her help and to tell her that “everything is cleared up now.”

When the woman told a human resources executive about the affair accusation, it got back to Shotwell, the woman told a friend. 

The woman said in a text message that she understood the conversation to have been confidential. “He told Gwynne everything. She told me,” the woman texted the friend, referring to the human resources executive to whom she’d reported Shotwell. “I should be able to go to HR for such things. She f— thought I was having an affair with her husband for God’s sake.”

Gwynne and Robert Shotwell didn’t respond to requests for comment on the matter. 

Musk’s lawyers sent a sworn declaration from Brian Bjelde, SpaceX’s current vice president of human resources, that said he could not locate any records of an HR complaint from the woman. 

By the time of Shotwell’s party, the woman was working for both Shotwell and Musk. Shotwell told the HR department at SpaceX that she wanted the woman removed from the office of the chief executive. 

While Shotwell was trying to push her out, Musk was pulling her in, she told people close to her.

17-hour days

In the fall of 2014, Musk initiated a sexual relationship with the woman, who by that time was working directly for him alone, she told the people. Musk was still married to but separated from Riley. 

A couple of months earlier, Musk and a human resources officer had met with the employee and said that a coming restructuring in Musk’s office meant that the woman would have to move to another part of the company, into a less visible role, if she wanted to stay, she later told friends.

She had declined but agreed to stay on as long as needed to get Musk’s new chief of staff, Sam Teller, up to speed.

“[Shotwell] has 100% sabotaged my future at a company I love, and I am not safe in any position,” she wrote in an email to another friend in September 2014. “This position is killing me and it has [affected] my mental and now physical health.” 

But she was still at SpaceX in the late fall of 2014, at Musk’s request, when he approached the woman at her desk and asked her if she wanted to have a drink and talk at his Bel-Air mansion, his primary Los Angeles residence at the time, situated on a knoll overlooking a country club.

A satellite image of the mansion Musk owned in Bel-Air, which was later sold.Photo: EagleView

Leading up to the invitation, Musk and the woman had become close professionally. They sat within view of each other in the office and were in frequent contact on work matters. She often put in 17-hour days to keep pace with Musk, helping out with matters at Tesla and in Musk’s personal life, in addition to her primary duties at SpaceX. 

Her friends and family noticed she’d lost an unhealthy amount of weight, and her hair was falling out as she worked long hours and friction with Shotwell continued.

Musk’s invitation came as such a surprise to the woman that she told Teller about it at the office, according to people familiar with the matter.

When she arrived at Musk’s house that night, with her computer and work bag, they went into his living room. 

She gave this account to friends in the following days: She and Musk drank and chatted. Musk told the woman she had both beauty and brains and continued to compliment her. They had sex and spent much of the rest of the night talking.

They saw each other again at his house in mid-December 2014, after Musk’s children were put to bed, according to text messages the woman shared with a friend at the time.

“I’ll see you at 11 or so,” the woman wrote in a text to Musk.

“Ok If you get tired or don’t feel like it for any reason, no problem to cancel,” he replied.

She said she didn’t want to cancel. “I might send a note to your house security only, to let them know I’m coming to drop something off….or something. So they’re prepared?” 

In bed the next morning, Musk promised the woman Tesla stock for unpaid work she’d done for him at the carmaker and in his personal life, she told a person close to her.

Musk told the woman that if the relationship ever became public, they’d have to say it started after she left the company, the woman later told that person and another friend.

Later that December, the woman asked Musk if she could enlist SpaceX information-security employees to check her email account, after they discussed the possibility of her email getting hacked. Musk granted her request but urged her in an email to delete “anything you don’t want them to see ahead of time, incl from sent folders and trash.”

Missed ‘bootie call’

The woman initially confided in people close to her that she believed she and Musk were starting a serious relationship and that they had a connection.

By late December, she was telling her friends that she felt used. Early on, she had wanted to keep their relationship private, but as it progressed, she sought more than drinks at his house and sex. 

When she suggested dinner out, Musk said he couldn’t be seen with her in public, citing ongoing negotiations over a possible divorce from Riley. 

Sam Teller, Musk’s former chief of staff, in San Francisco last year. Photo: David Paul Morris/Bloomberg News

As tensions mounted, Musk assigned Teller, his chief of staff, to handle the woman’s exit, according to people familiar with the matter and emails the woman shared with others. Musk had shared some of the woman’s texts with Teller, according to the people.

Musk declined to pay the woman directly in Tesla stock. In a Dec. 29, 2014, email, Teller offered her $35,400 in cash for her unpaid work, saying she could use it to buy the stock instead. She negotiated the offer up to $85,000, citing taxes and her broad brief for the billionaire. 

To get the money, she had to sign an agreement that required her to release Musk from potential legal claims “known and unknown,” and to keep information about him “in strictest confidence,” including the document itself, which Teller had received from Tesla’s then-general counsel Todd Maron, who had also been a divorce lawyer for Musk. She shared the agreement with people close to her before signing. 

Both Teller and Maron left their roles in 2019.

On Jan. 10, 2015, two days before she left the company, she received a late-night text from Musk: “Drinks?”

The woman didn’t see the invitation until the following morning.

“11:25 pm bootie call. Glad I was sleeping,” she wrote in a text to a friend.

After the woman left SpaceX, Musk told her in texts and emails that she shared with others that she had had thrown herself at him while he was in a fragile state over his separation from his then-wife, and they had been intimate only after she had resigned. 

“You insisted on coming to my house to sleep with me when I was just sad and tired and wanted to be alone,” he said in a text, the day after her exit from the company. 

She and Musk never saw each other again. 

Musk at an event in Chicago in 2018. Photo: Joshua Lott/Getty Images

Emily Glazer and Micah Maidenberg contributed to this article.

Write to Joe Palazzolo at Joe.Palazzolo@wsj.com and Khadeeja Safdar at khadeeja.safdar@wsj.com

 

Edited June 12 by HenryJames

[Neonmoon 38,130]

He offered her Tesla stock for sex. lol 

[Captain Ron 13,133]

2 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

He offered her Tesla stock for sex. lol 

Some of us only tell ourselves we aren’t paying for sex. Some of us give up on that lie. 

Edited June 12 by Captain Ron

[Captain Ron 13,133]

So the votes for the Tesla shareholders are due at midnight. Do we only find out at the meeting? Or could the news leak early? What happened in the Disney vote a few weeks back?

[Hank Kingsley 21,793]

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