Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

[Anastasis 23718]

On 8/1/2024 at 12:11 PM, Nivek said:

On 8/1/2024 at 11:46 AM, NeverMarryAStripper said:

 

Pony car, not a muscle car.

69 428cj identifies as a muscle car. 

Edited August 2 by Anastasis

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

1 hour ago, Chopper said:

Crap, sorry. Better spoiler it.

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Please take my picture down. 

[Pato del Muerto 53606]

Gosh I wonder if the richest man on the planet will be able to avoid legal consequences for any of his shenanigans 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20950]

I see that Elon has been bragging over the number of users/visitors Twitter has had recently.  Here's something really interesting --- a list of my 10 most recent followers.  Why are my followers interesting? If you click on the profiles of almost all of them 1) They are following between 3,000-7,000 accounts 2) they have roughly 100 followers 3) they have ZERO posts.

Example: my most recent four followers are Christie Cokely, Viviana Poser, Zahara Gollady, and Karma Allison.

Christie joined Twitter in July 2023, is following 6625 accounts, has 94 followers, and has tweeted zero times.

Viviana joined Twitter in October 2023, is following 2,584 accounts, has 31 followers, and has tweeted zero times.

Zahara joined Twitter in November 2023, is following 2285 accounts, has 24 followers, and has tweeted zero times.

Karma joined in September 2023, is following 3012 accounts, has 149 followers, and has tweeted zero times.

If you look at my last 10 followers, eight of the accounts are following several thousand accounts, have a few followers, and have tweeted ZERO times. Eight out of 10!

How does somebody get 150 followers without having ever tweeted?

Conclusion: ELON is cooking the books. Twitter's numbers are bullshit. 

 




 

[Pato del Muerto 53606]

I assume some people reflexively follow back any account that follows them. 

[Braff Zacklin 13676]

42 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I assume some people reflexively follow back any account that follows them. 

Especially when the account says, "Pussy in Bio."

[royiv 9898]

3 hours ago, troph said:

I may end up regretting this post, but fuck it.

I have no problem with responsible, sensible, well thought out regulation of trans women in sports. I've stated that from the beginning. Some progressives in my life have expressed dissatisfaction with that. But the idea that the issue is simple or that there should be a complete ban is laughable.

I know some trans women (who are not competitive and not athletes) that say fuck it, just resign from it all to a complete ban, agree with those that want the complete ban and let's move on. Their reasoning is that there are bigger issues to address.  I say fuck that. They are all big issues. I will go to my grave believing the right to compete is as important of a fundamental human right as any other. I also think the innate need to compete as a hallmark of being human goes back to the beginning. All you have to do is look at some of the earliest depiction of human civilization to find humans competing in athletic events against each other. It's wired into us. and for those of us who do wish to compete, it's worthy of finding a way that - and this is the key - works for everyone.

The desire for an outright ban is based in prejudice and discrimination, pure and simple. Almost all of the people who advocate for a complete ban also advocate for a complete ban on transition before 18 years of age predestining trans women to a complete ban in athletics by fiat and by law.  I've even heard people talk about socialization as an advantage in athletics and that should also prevent trans women from competing with other women. That's absurd. Raise your girls to be as competitive as you can, it's a cut throat world out there. Even among AFAB women, those who have cultivated a competitive drive at the highest level are the ones that will win. Granted that's not a physical trait but I've heard it used many times. Again, absurd.

However, there are things that should prevent trans women from competing in women sports, namely time to complete their transition, and this is controversial - effectiveness of transition. Completion and effectiveness of transition cannot be a hard and fast rule at 1 year (NCAA rule). That's preposterous. The problem with Lia Thomas is she met the bright line test from the NCAA. The NCAA set that rule a while ago probably under pressure, probably without a lot of knowledge and certainly from the standpoint that they didn't want to be seen and didn't want to be discriminatory. But in the end, Lia Thomas hurt the cause in ways that have become nearly unrecoverable.

She was already an athlete and good enough to be a college athlete, she transitioned for 1 year and I think still trained. I don't think she had any surgery, if she did she would have undoubtedly had to stop training and she would not have been back in the pool competing within 12 months. Surgery has a tremendous recovery time and she wouldn't likely be cleared to jump in a pool for months, let alone train vigorously.  Point is, 1 year is definitely not enough time for nearly anyone except those transitioning really early, if even then. This may harm trans women who are staring at the athletic clock whether it be age or college eligibility, etc. but fairness is fairness, it has to work for all.

I think AFAB women should be protected from trans women who are in transition. Lia Thomas was still in transition, she had not completed transition. At age 36 I began my transition. I don't think I was finished for at least 4 years. But by the time I was 40 when I picked up the tennis racket, it was clear while athletic I was not a man playing women's tennis.  I have a coach who coaches D1 players from time to time when they are in town for vacation or the summer. He laughed out loud when I asked if I could compete with men at the same USTA rating I had.  I also play women who hit harder, run faster, and are mentally tougher than me. I think what a lot of men fail to realize is that there are some wickedly athletic and fiercely competitive women out there. This shows up in the number of men who think they could return a serve from a pro tennis player like Coco or Serena. Same probably would be the case for hitting a fast pitch softball off Canady. The list goes on.

My tennis record post-transition is mixed, as I gained experience and skill I got better, I won more. As I approached next level I was winning a lot, and no doubt some would say because I'm trans. That's complete bullshit. When I moved to the next level I got my ass kicked. Some of these women were 10+ years older than me, some 10+ years younger. I've lost 0-6 / 1-6 and I've won 6-0 / 6-1. My anecdotal story is only that, but it's indicative of 99% of trans women in sports, who already represent a tiny fraction of the athletes in women's sports.

But when it comes to participation and when it comes to winning at the highest levels, there is a scenario where trans women can win and should not be penalized and be told it's just because you're a man or just because you were a man or because of testosterone or whatever. And if we figure out how to measure effectiveness of transition, then I really believe we have a solution.

I have friends who were not sensitive to estrogen, even after the testosterone was removed, they did not shed muscle mass, they did not gain fat weight. Did you know there are at least 4 ways to take estrogen? and that doesn't take into account dosages. Some of my friends have had to cycle through those methods to find what works, and different dosages.  Some trans women have an underdeveloped sensitivity to testosterone (some have postulated it's one of the many factors in what causes a person to be trans) making estrogen take faster. The point being, transition is complex, it's not one size fits all and I think we need to take the time to ask two questions of trans women athletes - are you done with transition and was your transition effective?

The IOC and NCAA have no framework to determine how receptive a body is to hormones or other aspects of medical transition. And this is the controversial part - if your medical transition isn't taking, you shouldn't be able to compete. It sucks, it may not be fair, but it's not fair to others either. And by effectiveness of transition, I don't mean do you look hot, I mean did you shed the physical traits that would be akin to the doping East Germany swim team or not?  If you didn't, not sure it's fair to compete. 

What does that framework look like? I don't know. But I do believe it's doable.

I also think the standard should be heightened for sanctioned high school, college, pro and Olympic sports and events and can be relaxed for club, recreational leagues and play, especially where there are inherent levels so that competition is structurally organized by talent/skill level.

In the end, trans women and progressives need to be more understanding, but the latent and in some cases overt -isms run rampant on this issue as much as any other and for those of us who believe there is a way to get this done and who believe the right to compete is a fundamental human right, it's severely damaging.

I do believe reason, logic and sound judgment can be used here to create a system that is inherently fair to everyone, and I think the importance of athletic competition demands we do it. Unfortunately, I'm afraid we are at least decades away from having the will as a society to find that solution that works for everyone.

That deeply saddens me and is one of the most troubling aspects of living in this world as an (admittedly aging) trans-athlete.

Great post. Appreciate your insight on this topic. It’s a subject that I don’t have the right answer on and your thoughts make a lot of sense to me. I think my head was already moving in the direction of your thoughts, but having you articulate it as you did makes it much easier for me to wrap my head around this issue.

I think a certain section of our society is using this as a wedge issue out of ignorance, stupidity, hate or all of the above. Like many difficult issues, there is a high level of nuance and some people can’t think in non-binary (sort of a double meaning in this case, I guess) terms. Whatever the answer is, it has to be fair (subjective) and based in science (objective). I’m not the person to determine what either of those things are and I salute those that are working to figure it out since inevitably there will be dissension from many.

[royiv 9898]

Dammit, I missed out on yet another business opportunity selling stickers to Tesla owners to make themselves feel better about driving a MAGA mobile.

[Anastasis 23718]

On 8/1/2024 at 12:18 PM, choripan said:

Oh, also, at lunch today, I was trying to explain to my wife how Elon is a traitor and that SpaceX should be given the ultimatum "Elon needs to go, or your contracts are gone," or at least to put the company on some sort of probation.

Obviously there's the Starlink satellites in Ukraine thing, but I couldn't think of anything else in the moment.

Maybe you just have brain worms. Musk is a lot of things, some including serious psychopathology. But he is not a traitor to his country. That’s just silly shit the politically brain damaged run out when they are flashing their own psychopathology. 

Edited August 2 by Anastasis

[royiv 9898]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Maybe you just have brain worms. Musk is a lot of things, some including serious psychopathology. But he is not a traitor to his country. That’s just silly shit the politically brain damaged run out when they are flashing their own psychopathology. 

South Africa or the country that he immigrated to illegally?

[pantone159 731]

4 hours ago, Chopper said:

"Cumulative revenue"

How does this relate to EBITDA?

[Anastasis 23718]

33 minutes ago, royiv said:

South Africa or the country that he immigrated to illegally?

The brain worms eventually propel individuals to self identify. 

[Ted Lange 16444]

41 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 That’s just silly shit the politically brain damaged run out when they are flashing their own psychopathology. 

That describes Elon perfectly

[Anastasis 23718]

6 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

That describes Elon perfectly

 

I don’t disagree. Some posters have a lot in common in that regard  

 

[Ted Lange 16444]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

 

I don’t disagree. Some posters have a lot in common in that regard  

 

Except they aren't among the richest most influential people in the world.   That someone in his position has absolute social media brain rot is, not great.  

[Pato del Muerto 53606]

52 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Maybe you just have brain worms. Musk is a lot of things, some including serious psychopathology. But he is not a traitor to his country. That’s just silly shit the politically brain damaged run out when they are flashing their own psychopathology. 

Quick point of order. I believe psychopathology is the study of mental illness, and psychopathy is the actual mental illness. 

[Anastasis 23718]

6 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Except they aren't among the richest most influential people in the world.   That someone in his position has absolute social media brain rot is, not great.  

I don’t disagree, but that’s a very weird way to define being a traitor to one’s country. 
 

it’s ok to just acknowledge that that particular accusation is stupid and baseless at this point. It reflects only brain damage to be unable to do so. 

Edited August 2 by Anastasis

[Ted Lange 16444]

I just take it as the same inflammatory rhetoric and hyperbole that Elon spews out on a daily basis.   But both sides Elon with a post on Surly I guess.

[Anastasis 23718]

 

2 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

I just take it as the same inflammatory rhetoric and hyperbole that Elon spews out on a daily basis.   But both sides Elon with a post on Surly I guess.

You just wrapped a both sides in your both sides deflection. 
 

it’s ok to just acknowledge that that particular accusation is stupid and baseless at this point.

[Anastasis 23718]

17 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Quick point of order. I believe psychopathology is the study of mental illness, and psychopathy is the actual mental illness. 

I think that the ology part can also be used when talking descriptively. 

[royiv 9898]

30 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I don’t disagree, but that’s a very weird way to define being a traitor to one’s country. 
 

it’s ok to just acknowledge that that particular accusation is stupid and baseless at this point. It reflects only brain damage to be unable to do so. 

Actively using a powerful platform to sow discord and promote the viewpoint of a politician that is on the record saying he wants to end elections in this country feels pretty treasonous to me, but you do you.

[Anastasis 23718]

8 minutes ago, royiv said:

but you do you

I’ll do the constitution. While you do empty rhetoric. 

[royiv 9898]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I’ll do the constitution. While you do empty rhetoric. 

So overturning democracy isn’t treasonous? It’s not empty rhetoric when we have a politician on the record saying he wants to end elections. Or are we just supposed to ignore what candidates for the highest office in the land say?

[Anastasis 23718]

20 minutes ago, royiv said:

So overturning democracy isn’t treasonous?

Elon overturned democracy? Are you even tracking this exchange?

[troph 25257]

2 hours ago, royiv said:

Great post. Appreciate your insight on this topic. It’s a subject that I don’t have the right answer on and your thoughts make a lot of sense to me. I think my head was already moving in the direction of your thoughts, but having you articulate it as you did makes it much easier for me to wrap my head around this issue.

I think a certain section of our society is using this as a wedge issue out of ignorance, stupidity, hate or all of the above. Like many difficult issues, there is a high level of nuance and some people can’t think in non-binary (sort of a double meaning in this case, I guess) terms. Whatever the answer is, it has to be fair (subjective) and based in science (objective). I’m not the person to determine what either of those things are and I salute those that are working to figure it out since inevitably there will be dissension from many.

The politicalization of this issue makes a reasonable, nuanced, well thought out and fair solution for society and those truly impacted virtually impossible. We are headed toward bans or near bans and the issue won’t be looked at again in my lifetime. 

Edited August 2 by troph

[Fudge Nuggets 19483]

8 hours ago, pacman said:

Just elon doing more piece of shit things...

I’m ok with this. A lot more potential MAGAts are going to be ffected than sane people.

[royiv 9898]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Elon overturned democracy? Are you even tracking this exchange?

You didn’t answer the question. Answer it and I’ll engage further. 

[Anastasis 23718]

ChAsE mY REd HeRRiNg Or I wON’T eNgAgE wiTh yOu AnYmoRe. 

[TwiceHorn 32111]

8 hours ago, royiv said:

Great post. Appreciate your insight on this topic. It’s a subject that I don’t have the right answer on and your thoughts make a lot of sense to me. I think my head was already moving in the direction of your thoughts, but having you articulate it as you did makes it much easier for me to wrap my head around this issue.

I think a certain section of our society is using this as a wedge issue out of ignorance, stupidity, hate or all of the above. Like many difficult issues, there is a high level of nuance and some people can’t think in non-binary (sort of a double meaning in this case, I guess) terms. Whatever the answer is, it has to be fair (subjective) and based in science (objective). I’m not the person to determine what either of those things are and I salute those that are working to figure it out since inevitably there will be dissension from many.

The thing that grinds my gears the most is that this should be left to the sport's sanctioning body.

There is zero place for legislative bans.  None.  Zilch.  Zero.   That is performative nonsense.

[Chopper 17452]

Holy shit -- the frame breaks while the dude's incel camino is pulling another truck downhill. 

 

 

[DigglerontheHoof 21565]

CT=Elmo's mental condition

[wildcat09 29601]

13 hours ago, royiv said:

Actively using a powerful platform to sow discord and promote the viewpoint of a politician that is on the record saying he wants to end elections in this country feels pretty treasonous to me, but you do you.

Kinda sounds like Ana (if you can imagine Surly as being powerful).

[Captain Ron 13133]

7 hours ago, Chopper said:

Holy shit -- the frame breaks while the dude's incel camino is pulling another truck downhill. 

 

 

Not to defend that garbage scow, but Isn’t their towing technique kinda shit?

Once they bumped over the first tunnel and the F150 hit the wedge, they jerked both trucks and the cable/chain/strap. A lot of stuff could have gone wrong there. 

Don’t get me wrong, we didn’t see the F150’s hitch, bumper or frame snap. Nor the strap. And the CT did. So I think we found a weak link in there. But I think with better/safer technique, this could be prevented. 

[Gene Parmesan 4085]

28 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Not to defend that garbage scow, but Isn’t their towing technique kinda shit?

Once they bumped over the first tunnel and the F150 hit the wedge, they jerked both trucks and the cable/chain/strap. A lot of stuff could have gone wrong there. 

Don’t get me wrong, we didn’t see the F150’s hitch, bumper or frame snap. Nor the strap. And the CT did. So I think we found a weak link in there. But I think with better/safer technique, this could be prevented. 

That guy gets crazy vehicles and does crazy stuff usually to their destruction on his YouTube channel. No doubt the CT is trash though. 

[Captainant 28607]

41 minutes ago, Captain Ron said:

Don’t get me wrong, we didn’t see the F150’s hitch, bumper or frame snap. Nor the strap. And the CT did. So I think we found a weak link in there. But I think with better/safer technique, this could be prevented. 

If a CT had to make an emergency move while pulling a trailer, it may snap it's own ass off. Did you see how THIN the aluminum frame is??

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20950]

17 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I assume some people reflexively follow back any account that follows them. 

Again: Eight out of my last 10 followers have ZERO tweets, are following thousands of accounts, and have a handful of followers ---- and when you go to see the list of those followers, those accounts themselves have no tweets.

Before Elon took over, none of this was ever the case. 

[immamac 44422]

Such a good watch

 

[HenryJames 67474]

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[Francisco 2.0 32620]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/2/24212295/x-loses-top-engineer-and-techops-lead

 

Quote

X loses top engineer and techops lead.

Mark Kalman, X’s engineering lead of media, and his second-in-command, Melissa Merencillo, resigned today. They announced their departures in a company Slack channel on the day stocks vest at X, which a source suggests might explain the timing.

This is a big loss for X, the source tells me. Kalman is the main source of knowledge for all things X media infrastructure, and more important than that, he’s good at “handling” Elon Musk.

 

[gofuckyourself 9096]

31 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

L

He didn't even @Elon and ask him and tell him how much he loves him.

How else is anyone going to look into it?

[HenryJames 67474]

[Celery Man 21108]

Still a better dad than Elon

[RPM 26682]

Meh, that idiot fucked around. Now he's finding out.

[Francisco 2.0 32620]

It's an older code, but still checks out:

 

 

 

[Covri 6375]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

Such a good watch

 

Really was. Cybertruck did better and worse than expected, stock ford with 4x4 also better and worse. Lots of fun tho packed into 22 minutes.

[immamac 44422]

2 minutes ago, Covri said:

Really was. Cybertruck did better and worse than expected, stock ford with 4x4 also better and worse. Lots of fun tho packed into 22 minutes.

For those wondering that thumbnail is not photoshopped. 

[fattyflattie 4640]

13 hours ago, Chopper said:

Holy shit -- the frame breaks while the dude's incel camino is pulling another truck downhill. 

 

 

In that POS trucks defense, whistlin diesel has never had a single vehicle survive.  Well, the Hilux…until it was dropped from space. 

[Captainant 28607]

16 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

In that POS trucks defense, whistlin diesel has never had a single vehicle survive.  Well, the Hilux…until it was dropped from space. 

The F150 stood up better once they replaced the immediately bent drive shaft. The frame weakness is just fucking insane to me, I don't know how they got its towing capacity certified for 11k lbs. That frame was SO THIN, it was closer to an aircraft frame than a shitkickin truck frame

[immamac 44422]

3 minutes ago, Captainant said:

The F150 stood up better once they replaced the immediately bent drive shaft. The frame weakness is just fucking insane to me, I don't know how they got its towing capacity certified for 11k lbs. That frame was SO THIN, it was closer to an aircraft frame than a shitkickin truck frame

When he called Tesla and they said is there any alerts in your app and they scrolled through the like 300 I lost it. 

[fattyflattie 4640]

7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

The F150 stood up better once they replaced the immediately bent drive shaft. The frame weakness is just fucking insane to me, I don't know how they got its towing capacity certified for 11k lbs. That frame was SO THIN, it was closer to an aircraft frame than a shitkickin truck frame

I didn’t watch it. Agree that it shouldn’t have that tow rating.   The 150 would hold up for decades longer, and is also carries an overrated tow capacity - all 1/2 tons do.  People forget towing isn’t Just about moving it forward in perfect conditions. Either way, lol at WD doing work on the CT. There’s now a maroon and white wrapped CT around my area.  How can you make this worse, hold my beer.