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On 8/13/2024 at 8:45 PM, TwiceHorn said:

I'm not sure that is 100% true.

On most of the continent, the judiciary is actively involved in investigating offenses as well as trying them.  The system is "inquisitorial" rather than adversarial.  The court issues subpoenas and similar process and even questions witnesses.  Most of the submissions by the lawyers are in writing and the judge does all the talking and questioning.

The key question here is whether French jurisdictional law permits their criminal courts to reach those who never set foot in France in committing their crimes.

Also, in many cases where civil and criminal law overlap, filing a criminal complaint is a prerequisite to filing a civil suit for damages.

You should have stopped at the first part.  Cybercrimes from US to France and vice versa are handled by treaty.  They can't prosecute someone tweeting from the U.S.

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3 hours ago, ultimaton said:

"If you don't have kids, you are psychotic and have no investment in the future", say the people unconcerned about climate change because it may not get *really bad* for another generation or two. 

Me without kids when other people complain I live a carefree lifestyle 

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https://www.thenational.scot/news/24513964.elon-musks-humza-yousaf-claim-sparks-twitter-x-privacy-concerns/

 

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But in a comment which has been seized on by Twitter/X users concerned about their privacy on the platform, Musk added: “Legal discovery will show that however big a racist he’s been in public communications, he is vastly worse in private communications.”

 

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"Cybertruck Buyers Get Unusual Surprise: A Brand-New Truck Delivered With Dirt and Mud"

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/cybertruck-buyers-get-unusual-surprise-a-brand-new-truck-delivered-with-dirt-and-mud-eccd274a

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The Cybertruck was designed to feel like the truck of the future. To some buyers, their new pickups instead feel like they haven’t been cleaned.

As Tesla TSLA 0.29%increase; green up pointing triangle rushes to fill orders for its long-delayed Cybertruck, some customers are taking delivery of their expensive new trucks only to find surfaces covered in dust, dirt or other grime. 

“It wasn’t clean like a new car should be if you’re paying $100,000,” said Bill Walsh, who picked up his new Cybertruck in April from a local delivery center near his home in Annapolis, Md.

The interior of the windshield was coated in a cloudy, hard-to-remove film, and there were water streaks and fingerprints visible on the stainless-steel exterior, Walsh said.  

He thought about mentioning it to the staff, but by then there was a line of people waiting to take delivery of their own pickups. He returned home and spent about an hour wiping it down with rubbing alcohol and window cleaner. 

Tesla, which according to its website has about 160 delivery centers in the U.S., didn’t respond to requests for comment. 

Nathaniel Durham's Cybertruck had marks on the exterior when he arrived at his local service center.NATHANIEL DURHAM

In recent months, more than two dozen Cybertruck owners have posted on social media about Tesla delivering them dirty trucks, with users noting muddy floors and dusty interiors, as well as sticky residue and unsightly spots on the outer panels. 

Others have posted photos of unusual white streaks in the truck bed and a hazy coating on the windshield that obstructs the view. 

Handing over a brand-new vehicle in such a condition is unusual in the car business, where typically automakers and dealers ensure the car is inspected, washed and detailed before the customer arrives, industry analysts and car retailers say. 

Tesla, which sells directly to consumers and doesn’t use independent dealers, does much of this detailing work in-house, relying on staff at its various locations to spiff up cars shipped from the factory. 

The delivery experience tends to vary depending on the center and the number of Cybertrucks being processed on a given day, former Tesla employees say. 

Many Cybertruck owners also have said their trucks arrived clean, or if they had any problems, they were quickly resolved when raised with the staff. Some customers who got less-than-pristine trucks described it as a temporary inconvenience and said overall they were happy with their purchase. 

Tough to clean

The Cybertruck, which went on sale late last year, has had a bumpy launch, disrupted by manufacturing challenges, recalls and other delays. 

The pressure to get the trucks quickly into customers’ hands is taxing some delivery centers, where staffing is thin and there has been confusion over how to clean the novel truck, the ex-employees say. 

Additionally, some pickups arrive with parts covered in dust and dirt from the factory site, where construction is under way to expand the plant, they said. And the truck’s unique design makes it trickier and more time-consuming to clean, in part because the stainless-steel surface tends to easily attract spots and fingerprints.

Each Cybertruck took at least two hours to fully detail, compared with 45 minutes for Tesla’s bestselling Model Y SUV, according to one of the former employees. 

The emergence of these complaints comes as Tesla is trying to boost production of its first new passenger-vehicle model in years.

While its design has been polarizing, the angular truck has amassed a dedicated following with many customers placing reservations in 2019, when it was first unveiled.

Tesla Chief Executive Elon Musk at one point said the company had more than one million reservation holders waiting for the truck. It hasn’t provided a more recent figure or broken out how many Cybertrucks it has sold to date. 

A recall on the model in late June affected more than 11,000 Cybertrucks, which is roughly how many were sold in the U.S. in the first half of 2024, according to data-analytics firm Motor Intelligence. 

Meanwhile, Tesla’s sales overall have slumped after years of double-digit growth. The electric-car pioneer has leaned on price cuts and other sales incentives to keep buyers interested, especially as rivals increase their EV offerings.  

‘Price of a Porsche’

As is typical with a launch, Tesla is giving priority to delivery of its more expensive versions of the Cybertruck first, including those sold under its Foundation Series line, which start at about $100,000. The company has previously said a version starting at $61,000 would go on sale in 2025.

Most new vehicles today roll off the assembly line clean. That is because auto plants are generally well-kept and the process is tightly controlled, with some high-contact surfaces covered in a protectant to keep them tidy, industry experts say. 

While a vehicle can get dirty in transport or while sitting on the lot, most of this filth is washed off and the car fully detailed before it is turned over. If it isn’t, that could hurt repeat business, which manufacturers and dealers tend to rely on, auto analysts say.

Part of the problem for Tesla is that staff have had to deal with changing guidance on how best to clean freshly shipped Cybertrucks, complicating efforts to make them more presentable, the former employees say.

The stainless-steel surface on a Cybertruck tends to attract spots and fingerprints, some say. PHOTO: KRISZTIAN BOCSI/BLOOMBERG NEWS

At one point, vehicle-readiness specialists were told to wipe down the outside of the vehicles with Dawn dish soap, according to the ex-employees. Later the prevailing wisdom was to use Bar Keepers Friend, an all-purpose dish soap or a window-cleaner spray.

Nathaniel Durham of Greensboro, N.C., said he arrived at his local service center to find his truck covered in spots and a sticky substance that he later used rubbing alcohol to remove. The floor mats were also visibly dirty, and the staff wasn’t helpful.

“It’s not a Rolls-Royce or a Mercedes. But still, this is the price of a Porsche,” said Durham, who paid around $120,000 for his Cybertruck. “I wasn’t looking for special treatment.”

Still, Durham is pleased with his purchase. He has since had the truck covered in an orange wrap, which he says is evocative of the surface of Mars.

 

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2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Wow it's so weird how he keeps doing what he accuses other companies of doing. Reminds me of one of his recent interviewees

2 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

Every accusation is an admission.

 Grimes’s DMs ain’t gonna read themselves.

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51 minutes ago, C-Man said:

"Cybertruck Buyers Get Unusual Surprise: A Brand-New Truck Delivered With Dirt and Mud"

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/cybertruck-buyers-get-unusual-surprise-a-brand-new-truck-delivered-with-dirt-and-mud-eccd274a

 

TLDR - Bill Walsh and Nathaniel Durham have a god given right to roll up to their doctor's office for micropenis surgery in a clean cybertruck. 

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6 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

Every accusation is an admission.

This has me thinking that maybe Elon wants to transition into a woman. He’s so jealous his daughter Vivian had the guts to transition herself instead of spending a life trapped in her own skin and gaining validation online from a bunch of incels. 

I would understand the root of his contempt for trans people if Vivian transitioned and then became miserable and depressed after making the choice to do so. But to be so vehemently against it when your child is happy and proud of who they are post-transition is just an asshole move. 

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5 hours ago, C-Man said:

He thought about mentioning it to the staff, but by then there was a line of people waiting to take delivery of their own pickups. He returned home and spent about an hour wiping it down with rubbing alcohol and window cleaner.

I know Cybertruck owner and fucking loser are redundant, but holy shit.

I half expected this next line:

"After Mr. Walsh spent an hour cleaning, he then posted a social media message to Mr. Musk telling him, 'I love you so much.'"

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

When testing was nearly complete, things went downhill. The Cybertruck's screen flashed red, detecting a "loss of system redundancy." Here's what the message on the screen read: "When out of park, the vehicle may suddenly lose electric power, steering and propulsion and may be unable to apply parking brake. It may be possible to recover the system by performing a vehicle power cycle: Exit the vehicle, close all doors, re-enter the vehicle and attempt to drive..."

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Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov (born 5 October 1976) is a Russian politician and current Head of the Chechen Republic. He was formerly affiliated with the Chechen independence movement, through his father who was the separatist-appointed mufti of Chechnya. He is a colonel general in the Russian military.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-kadyrov-equips-tesla-truck-with-machinegun-war-2024-08-17/

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

I know we're not technically at war, but this feels real like giving aid and comfort to the enemy

Musk's piece of shit Cybertrucks going to Russians is the most patriotic and pro-Ukranian thing he's ever done.

Next up is video of the CT stuck in a Ukrainian puddle, with Kadryov DMing Tesla and Elon for help.

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3 hours ago, Parliament said:

I'm not in the habit of being that doofus's white knight.  But there's the possibility Kadrov is lying to sew discontent.

I think we should totally believe him just this one time, and see if any of Musk’s companies are sending anything over there.

 

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9 hours ago, Captainant said:

I know we're not technically at war, but this feels real like giving aid and comfort to the enemy

If by "aid and comfort" you mean complete and endless frustration while risking death at any moment, then we need to send a lot more "aid" to Russia. 

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On 8/16/2024 at 7:15 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://insideevs.com/news/730471/tesla-cybertruck-breaks-down-edmunds-review/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2Pe7GoGyyNXFnS9XFBnwOVPygZhY5Y3X9x7iKr-JMOXaiX2mnAZJcpaZc_aem_AoUkTQuA1MNn2x83Yq41Iw

 

 

 

 

 

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The outlet's Senior Reviews Editor Brian Wong followed the on screen instructions, but that didn't help. Aside from blowing hot air on a scorching summer day, the vehicle displayed more warnings, including rear steering failure, low-voltage battery warning and reduced power and speed. After running a "power cycle," it started moving, but only in limp mode at 4 mph. About an hour later, the Cybertruck drove just fine and acted like nothing had happened. Wong drove it back home.

The earliest service appointment Wong could get was two weeks after the incident occurred (August 20). The service person said these issues could be stemming from one of three sources: the front wiring harness, 48-volt battery or rear steering system. This isn't the first time we've seen a Cybertruck break down. Owners have faced drive unit failures, malfunctioning windshield wipers and several other issues. InsideEVs compiled an entire list of problems owners were facing since deliveries started at the end of last year.

This seems to the recurring theme at Tesla. Even the early production versions of the Model 3 and Model Y faced debilitating quality and reliability issues, but Tesla ironed them out over time. However, when those models were having teething issues, the world was a different place. Tesla wasn't in the position it is in today. Its sales are declining, rivals looks more  robust than ever before and CEO Elon Musk's controversies and culture wars are turning some buyers off. If Tesla wants to continue leading America's electrification journey, it needs to fix the Cybertruck first.

 

 

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Elon Musk said he’d eliminate bots from X. Instead, election influence campaigns are running wild

https://restofworld.org/2024/twitter-x-bots-elon-musk-elections/

 

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As Rwanda prepared for its national election on July 15, something strange was happening on X. Hundreds of accounts appeared to be operating in unison, posting identical or oddly similar messages in support of incumbent president Paul Kagame. A team of researchers at Clemson University started tracking the seemingly automated network and discovered more than 460 accounts involved, sharing what appeared to be AI-generated messages.

“The campaign, which exhibits several markers of coordinated inauthentic behavior, seems to be trying to affect discourse about the performance of the Kagame regime,” the researchers wrote in a paper tracing the network.

It was the kind of revelation that would normally send moderators scrambling, particularly in the weeks before a national election. But when the group reported their findings to X, nothing happened. Flagged accounts remained up, and the network continued to post. 

 

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No social media platform is completely immune to influence campaigns, but researchers say the uptick on X is noticeably higher. According to DFRLab’s managing director, Andy Carvin, much of the change can be traced to specific decisions the platform made under Musk’s leadership, particularly laying off 80% of the platform’s trust and safety team. “If you look at X circa 2024 and compare it to where it was during the U.S. election in 2020, the trust and safety team that was once there is gone,” Carvin told Rest of World.

Another change was the rebuilding of X’s verification system, initially intended to highlight verified, notable accounts with a “blue check” badge. Musk revamped the system, making the badges available to anyone paying a subscription fee — claiming that the need to pay a fee served as verification that the user was a human, not a bot. Instead, the easy availability of the badge has made a verified status on the platform far more accessible to coordinated campaigns.

“It is shocking how easy it has been to find accounts that appear to be bots spreading division around the U.K. vote.”

The result has been a flood of new campaigns targeting elections. Starting in May, researchers at the human rights group Global Witness monitored election hashtags leading up to the U.K. election on July 4. More than 610,000 of the posts were from a network of “bot-like accounts” that promoted conspiracy theories, xenophobia, and other divisive topics.

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“In prior times, Twitter’s integrity teams would engage with people outside of the company, and there would be more proactive ways of doing investigations and responding,” DiResta said. “I don’t think the platform has very much interest in engaging in that way now.”

Researchers are also facing growing impediments to finding influence operations in the first place. The easiest way to access X posts at scale is through the platform’s API, making it vital for researchers and academics. But while API access was once available for free to academics and research groups, it’s now metered according to access tiers that can cost as much as $42,000 a month.

Under Musk, the company has also sued research groups for reporting on activity that reflects poorly on the platform, launching civil cases against the Center for Countering Digital Hate and Media Matters. The former case has been dismissed, but the latter is scheduled for trial in April 2025. The lawsuits have had a chilling effect on the community at large, making many groups reluctant to conduct research on the platform.

 

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On 8/15/2024 at 7:20 PM, JBJ said:

You should have stopped at the first part.  Cybercrimes from US to France and vice versa are handled by treaty.  They can't prosecute someone tweeting from the U.S.

That may be true and probably is, but the cybercrime convention is not universally adopted or adhered to.  And, I do suspect that if the French could connect the cybercrime offenders sufficiently to the forum to satisfy jurisdiction/due process concerns, they would prosecute domestically.

The important part that I did leave out is what 956 said:  a criminal complaint in France invokes the investigation process rather unlike anything in the US, except a police report, and whether the government/law enforcement takes up the investigation and how seriously is not determined by the filing of a complaint.

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14 hours ago, Parliament said:

I'm not in the habit of being that doofus's white knight.  But there's the possibility Kadrov is lying to sew discontent.

Are you sure he’s not knitting discontent? Crocheting it perhaps?

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8 hours ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

I mean that's great and all, but Threads is pretty much the only realistic hope we have as a twitter alternative. 

It took facebook 7 years to overtake myspace. I don't think many serious people are on threads, or would go to threads. That's my perception. But if you want to support yet another Meta platform, and not gaf about all the harm they're doing to businesses and the US economy, that's certainly your choice. 

edit - also while bsky allows some video imbeds (youtube), there's no native video but that will soon change.

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1 hour ago, TexasHooch said:

Elon Musk said he’d eliminate bots from X. Instead, election influence campaigns are running wild

https://restofworld.org/2024/twitter-x-bots-elon-musk-elections/

 

 

 

So Musk bought Twitter in order to control the minds of millions of voters.  Reminds me of some former U.S. President we all know.  Sounds like twins to me.

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3 hours ago, Chopper said:

It took facebook 7 years to overtake myspace. I don't think many serious people are on threads, or would go to threads. That's my perception. But if you want to support yet another Meta platform, and not gaf about all the harm they're doing to businesses and the US economy, that's certainly your choice. 

edit - also while bsky allows some video imbeds (youtube), there's no native video but that will soon change.

How many of those years was Facebook only  open to .edu email addresses though?

22 hours ago, Mittens said:

Could this be construed as a sanctions violation somehow?

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4 hours ago, Chopper said:

It took facebook 7 years to overtake myspace. I don't think many serious people are on threads, or would go to threads. That's my perception. But if you want to support yet another Meta platform, and not gaf about all the harm they're doing to businesses and the US economy, that's certainly your choice. 

edit - also while bsky allows some video imbeds (youtube), there's no native video but that will soon change.

The only reason Threads exists is to be a big fuck you to Elon Musk from Zuck. He wanted to capture an audience that was pissed about Twitter devolving into X and threw Threads together to get people back into the Meta ecosystem. There is no incentive for Zuck to make Threads better because it ultimately takes users away from Facebook which is his bread and butter. 

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