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Elon Musk: Officially a fraud and piece of shit. Official or unofficial war criminal?

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Hotez is far from bulletproof.       

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Absolutely.    Would you like other guys pointing out Hotez deficiencies?   It was actually more about Hotez but whatever? Why stick around? All the constructive back and forth

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A nice side benefit of this is how MAGA is completely dropping the veil of "oh, no, we only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration!"  That was always a lie.   And now, they are openly telling you "yep, that was a lie.  We don't want ANY immigrants.  At all."

Whereas Elon just says "look, so long as I can have functional slaves, I don't care where they come from."

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From a few hours ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/musk-vivek-ramaswamy-h1b-visa-maga-immigration-what-to-know/

Musk and Ramaswamy's views have sparked an online spat between factions of Trump's supporters over immigration and the tech industry, whose businesses rely on the H-1B visa to bring in thousands of foreign engineers and other skilled workers each year from India, China and other nations.

The tech industry has long called for more H-1B visas to attract highly skilled workers to the U.S., although Trump's first administration restricted the program in 2020, arguing that it allows businesses to replace Americans with lower-paid foreign workers. 

That debate has again erupted after Musk, himself once on an H-1B visa and whose electric vehicle company Tesla has hired workers using the program, defended the tech industry's need to bring in foreign workers. Ramaswamy, for his part, wrote in an X post that American culture "has venerated mediocrity over excellence," leading to a nation that does "not produce the best engineers."

"There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley," Musk wrote on Dec. 25 on X, his social media app. 

The debate touched off this week when Laura Loomer, a right-wing influencer with a history of racist and conspiratorial comments, criticized Trump's selection of Sriram Krishnan as an adviser on artificial intelligence policy in his coming administration. Krishnan favors the ability to bring more skilled immigrants into the U.S.

Loomer declared the stance to be "not America First policy" and said the tech executives who have aligned themselves with Trump were doing so to enrich themselves. 

Loomer's comments sparked a back-and-forth with venture capitalist and former PayPal executive David Sacks, whom Trump has tapped to be the "White House A.I. & Crypto Czar." Musk and Ramaswamy, whom Trump has tasked with finding ways to cut the federal government, defended the tech industry's need to bring in foreign workers.

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What if Musk dumped a shitload of money into Trump’s campaign and whispered sweet nothings into his ear, so that he could stop Trump from restricting H-1Bs, and even increase the number coming in?  What if Vivek joined in for similar reasons?

Musk is trying to shut down California’s high-speed initiatives, he and Vivek want some loans or grants given to other EV makers rescinded, he wants to increase government contracts to SpaceX, he wants the EPA scaled back or ditched so they’d get off his back, and so on, and so forth.

All of the sudden people are discovering that a billionaire oligarch wants to do things that benefit himself?

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

A nice side benefit of this is how MAGA is completely dropping the veil of "oh, no, we only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration!"  That was always a lie.   And now, they are openly telling you "yep, that was a lie.  We don't want ANY immigrants.  At all."

Whereas Elon just says "look, so long as I can have functional slaves, I don't care where they come from."

Yall got Elon’s real motivations twisted. No one stans harder for Elon than Indian tech dudes on Twitter so that’s what side he’s on. 

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41 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I mean, this is all highly entertaining of course, but some of you guys are acting like any of this going on over the last day on the Xitter matters.

It does not matter.

Well, President Leon is going to find himself kicked off the Doge commission, and that's going to be fun as fuck, especially if the H-1Bs are drastically limited or completely ended.  We will see twitter weaponized against people who aren't used to it.

Musk probably doesn't even see this coming - from his twitter postings lately, he seems to be oblivious to how many people are pissed at him, and because he's always the smartest guy in the room, he thinks the people disagreeing with him are morons. He helped Trump get elected, but he doesn't understand that he's pretty useless to Trump now.

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, President Leon is going to find himself kicked off the Doge commission, and that's going to be fun as fuck, especially if the H-1Bs are drastically limited or completely ended.  We will see twitter weaponized against people who aren't used to it.

Musk probably doesn't even see this coming - from his twitter postings lately, he seems to be oblivious to how many people are pissed at him, and because he's always the smartest guy in the room, he thinks the people disagreeing with him are morons. He helped Trump get elected, but he doesn't understand that he's pretty useless to Trump now.

This is all playing out on Xitter.  It's entertaining....it's also 2 days after Christmas, and nobody is paying attention.  I said it on the other thread.  This is the same shit verse 3,567 of all the other breathless pre-election "holy shit look at this insanity, can you believe this is happening" tweets from generally the same cast of characters.  

 

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45 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

This is all playing out on Xitter.  It's entertaining....it's also 2 days after Christmas, and nobody is paying attention.  I said it on the other thread.  This is the same shit verse 3,567 of all the other breathless pre-election "holy shit look at this insanity, can you believe this is happening" tweets from generally the same cast of characters.  

Ehh, it's being covered by the media, and the right-wingers like Loomer are foaming at the mouth over it, and there are people in Congress pissed about it.  Combine with the "President Musk" talk and Musk won't be around in the administration much longer.  He believes he can convince Trump of anything, and doesn't realize that everybody is disposable to Trump.

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1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

Oh WOW REALLY??

I mean take your pic of a few that took 3 seconds to locate

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Why did you post a bunch of Trump-related posts from xitter in this thread?  Go fuck yourself in the face. 

Also if you had taken a minute to read what you quoted and what you cross-posted you'd have noticed they're nothing alike. Assuming you weren't wasted out of your mind. 

 

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13 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

waitwaitwaitwaitwait.

you think this guy might be on drugs? 

Combine it with an ego like his, and that he thinks everything he has achieved has been solely due to his own hard work and brilliance, and that any criticism of H-1Bs is a criticism of him and, well,...

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edit: apparently the H-1B thing has been a sore point for him for many years (probably since his brother outed them as being here illegally).

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7 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I'm not reading everything, but it seems like just a brief glance and the past 2-3 days is him melting down over H-1B stuff.

Like this.

 

The punchline is the implicit admission of breaking immigration law, which up until a week or two ago was a carnal sin for him and his ilk

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