One Class Can Kill You - Reviewing the Texas 2019 Class

[closetojumping 62510]

We kind of touch on the issue of the impact of one recruiting class during various discussions on this board. I can't say that anyone is ever really convicted about the overall impact of a single class for a program.  That considered, I'll contend that the 2019 class for Texas played a helpful role in seeing Tom Herman pushed out the door slightly less than two years after that dipshit signed these guys. 

Folks will often cite the 2018 and 2019 as both being highly ranked (3rd each cycle) and both being significant bombs in terms of results. I understand the sentiment because neither covered itself in glory, but the 2018 class was actually decent and, if reranked, probably winds up remaining in the top 10-15 range.

We can argue personal opinions about the quality of the starting minutes from each player, but the top 9 players in the 2018 class all started an entire season or more for Texas. 3 of the top 9 were drafted. If Christian Jones is drafted, and it seems like he's probable in that regard, the 2018 class will have 6 NFL draftees. That doesn't include Cameron Dicker, who has a strong NFL career going at this point, or Cameron Rising, who Texas can't claim but will likely be drafted and was a solid evaluation, or Jamison, who played a lot in the back half of this season for the Carolina Panthers. Overall, that class yielded 18 full season or multi-season starters for Texas and landed 8 UT guys in the pros. 

That's not a great class, but that cannot be called a bad class, either. 

Now, 2019 was ranked on the same level as 2018. How did it do by comparison? 

The 2019 class yielded 6 full time starters plus Roschon Johnson. Unfortunately, some of those starters were starters out of pure necessity.

-Chris Adimora started a bunch in 2020 and was rarely ever a factor outside of that season.

-Marcus Washington was a starter because multiple WR prospects around him went down to injury, transfer, or were even worse than he was.

-Does Jacoby Jones get regular rotation time these days? I don't think so.

That leaves Whittington, Gbenda, and the lowest ranked recruit in that class, Tvondre Sweat, as quality starters. Roschon Johnson was also big time in this class.

So, you wind up with 2 NFL draftees (assuming Whitt is UFA) and 4 quality starter types out of a group of 24 signees. That is a truly pathetic class. 

-Texas signed 3 OLs in the 2019 class and none of them ever factored into the depth chart at Texas. Javonne Shepherd truly sucked.

Probably most importantly for Tom Herman is the way in which that class fell apart, which I think is a stronger indicator for killing a coach's tenure than just the talent quality in that class. I think is especially important going forward for programs because of the velocity in which a class can be disintegrated by the portal and NIL expectations/tampering. Consider this:

-Multiple players, with whom early expectations were high, never contributed. Bru McCoy, the highest ranked player in the class, injured his pussy and never played a down. Degabriel Floyd, who Texas needed at LB early, never played a down due to medial issues. They needed Caleb Johnson to come in a make an impact, instead they ran him off during his first spring. Derian Brown had the head injury and his football career was over before it started. Peter Mpagi had the major heart problems that ended his career before it started. That's 5 guys out of 24 who never saw their first fall in a fucking uniform and pads. 21% of the class never existed except on paper. 

-Tyler Owens, Jake Smith, Brayden Liebrock, and Kenyatta Watson were all highly rated (top 155 nationally or better) and all wound up being pure busts. 

Between the OL recruits creating a massive long term hole, the transfers & medical retirements in semester 1, and the terrible evaluations at the top of the class, half the class was garbage from day one. Most of the others ended up not being better than replacement value, with only two real stars and two other solid college players. With only decent production from the 2017 and 2018 classes heading into the 2019 and 2020 seasons, the problems with the 2019 class simply compounded the problems within the program. Given that Herman ended up being widely despised by almost everybody, him being fired in early 2021 made sense.

Whether it was Steve Sarkisian or anyone else, Herman especially, I'm not sure how anyone goes better than 7-5 in the 2021 season. Two transition classes (2017, 2021), two decent to solid classes (2018, 2020), and one enormous bomb of a class (2019) spelled trouble.

 

Edited February 6 by closetojumping

[satyanash 14471]

Eerily prophetic quote from Herman in May 2018:

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 “In coaching, if you say it once you say it 1,000 times and I wish more people would listen — it really is not the ones that go to other schools that beat you,” Tom Herman said. “A kid leaves here and goes to the Midwest, we’re never going to play him. He’s not going to beat us. It’s the ones that you take that can’t play because you only have 85 scholarships. If you take a guy that’s a cancer in the locker room, or he’s not as good as you thought he was and you mis-evaluated him, you’re stuck with him for four years.”

 

[jeevsie 3733]

Seems your post sent out the Satya signal.

[Vito Andolini 9124]

It’s easy to understand how Milwee (allegedly) looked at the team that first spring and said something to the effect, “None of these fucks would be on our second team at Bama.” Even if this is made up horse shit, I still can see it being true.

[MuellerHorn 4227]

The lowest-ranked recruit is going to be the highest draft pick (assuming he goes before the 115th pick, which he will). Thats just wild. 

[irishtexan 11511]

Two of the three most productive players in the class were Roschon Johnson and Sweat. One was recruited as a QB and the other was the lowest-rated guy in the class. Whittington was a good player and a great culture guy. The rest of the class was straight ass, my dudes. 

[Helobious 9456]

Jake Smith busted a lot of stereotypes I had about white receivers, for all the wrong reasons.

[DixonHur 11292]

28 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

The lowest-ranked recruit is going to be the highest draft pick (assuming he goes before the 115th pick, which he will). Thats just wild. 

Remember when lots of folks, myself included, thought we only offered D'Onta Forman to secure a commitment from his brother Armanti?

[futureman 22440]

32 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

The lowest-ranked recruit is going to be the highest draft pick (assuming he goes before the 115th pick, which he will). Thats just wild. 

??

[Mitch Cumsteen 18547]

 

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

-Multiple players, with whom early expectations were high, never contributed. Bru McCoy, the highest ranked player in the class, injured his pussy and never played a down. Degabriel Floyd, who Texas needed at LB early, never played a down due to medial issues. They needed Caleb Johnson to come in a make an impact, instead they ran him off during his first spring. Derian Brown had the head injury and his football career was over before it started. Peter Mpagi had the major heart problems that ended his career before it started. That's 5 guys out of 24 who never saw their first fall in a fucking uniform and pads. 21% of the class never existed except on paper. 

You should probably add Liebrock, Jake Smith and Isiah Hookfin to the list of guys who never contributed primarily because of injury. That's just an inordinate number. That class really was snakebit.

Edited February 5 by Mitch Cumsteen

[SimkinsMan 4385]

This thread ...

[futureman 22440]

49 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

The lowest-ranked recruit is going to be the highest draft pick (assuming he goes before the 115th pick, which he will). Thats just wild. 

who do you think is the lowest-ranked recruit?

[Sabalo 994]

Why did Wylie transfer to TCU?

[closetojumping 62510]

19 minutes ago, SimkinsMan said:

This thread ...

There are a few tangents to this thread that I've pondered as well. 

1) Something similar to this thread regarding the 2022 Texas A&M class. 

2) Looking at the opposite premise - can a single class make you playoff compatible?

3) Rather than thinking through the 5 star and high 4 star impacts, going the opposite route and looking at a few teams and their classes over a 5 year period and seeing how many guys ranked outside of the top 250 nationally played key roles on their team, and how those teams performed. Maybe there are some interesting indicators there that would help thinking about intangibles like evaluation, development, luck and such differently. Maybe it's all noise. That's why it intrigues me.

I've got some time right now and many of the stupid tangents that all of the threads are taking have bored me, so I'm pondering topics that might be interesting to me and some of you non-idiots posting here. 

[closetojumping 62510]

6 minutes ago, Sabalo said:

Why did Wylie transfer to TCU?

Wylie was soft. Kudos to him and the TCU staff for getting some solid blocking out of him to go with some solid receiving skills. His productivity at TCU has surprised me. 

[Hookem2147 21188]

Off-ball LB recruiting was so damn bad for a 3-4 year stretch.

2017- No HS guys. Gary Johnson from the JUCO ranks was added late.

2018- Dele Adeoeye (IMG curse!). Maybe you can include Byron Vaughns and his overtweeting mom in this group but he seemed destined for edge once he filled out.

2019- Floyd and David Gbenda. Great character additions Caleb Johsnon and Juwan Mitchell from the JUCO ranks late.

2020- Didn't have one until the last minute when Jaylan Ford was added.

 

Would love to know the thought process throughout those classes. And 2021 wasn't much better (Terrance Cooks, who lasted 3 seconds under the new staff, and Mo Blackwell, who was a tweener)

Edited February 5 by Hookem2147

[Beau Vine 54203]

1 hour ago, MuellerHorn said:

The lowest-ranked recruit is going to be the highest draft pick (assuming he goes before the 115th pick, which he will). Thats just wild. 

Sweat wasn't the lowest-ranked.

Also, I seriously couldn't believe that Tyler Johnson didn't pan out.   I was OK with Shephard bombing -- didn't expect much out of him except providing aggy misery.

 

[closetojumping 62510]

1 minute ago, Beau Vine said:

Sweat wasn't the lowest-ranked.

Also, I seriously couldn't believe that Tyler Johnson didn't pan out.   I was OK with Shephard bombing -- didn't expect much out of him except providing aggy misery.

 

On3 was what I was using and Sweat was the lowest ranked by their tracking (they didn't have their own for that year, so they just incorporated the other 3):

https://www.on3.com/college/texas-longhorns/football/2019/industry-comparison-commits/

If someone else had it different, it's splitting hairs. He was at or near the bottom of the pile and wound up being the most important positive development in that class.

[SimkinsMan 4385]

15 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

There are a few tangents to this thread that I've pondered as well. 

1) Something similar to this thread regarding the 2022 Texas A&M class. 

2) Looking at the opposite premise - can a single class make you playoff compatible?

3) Rather than thinking through the 5 star and high 4 star impacts, going the opposite route and looking at a few teams and their classes over a 5 year period and seeing how many guys ranked outside of the top 250 nationally played key roles on their team, and how those teams performed. Maybe there are some interesting indicators there that would help thinking about intangibles like evaluation, development, luck and such differently. Maybe it's all noise. That's why it intrigues me.

I've got some time right now and many of the stupid tangents that all of the threads are taking have bored me, so I'm pondering topics that might be interesting to me and some of you non-idiots posting here. 

I'm just being a drive-by commenter. I truly appreciate the effort to start a meaningful thread, as painful as it may be for us to revisit. 

That 2019 class was all the more of a gut punch because Texas football was such a fucking mirage. The team had its biggest win in nearly a decade, over Georgia, just weeks before signing day. Then they signed what appeared to be a bomber class headlined by that awesome dude from Cali, Bru McCoy. It looked like Herman had picked up the pieces from Chuckles and baked the fucking cake. Then it all exploded like that turkey on Christmas Vacation. 

It's good to remember what happened five years ago because it makes the reality of what is happening now all the more sweeter.

[Red Five 40823]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

-Chris Adimora started a bunch in 2020 and was rarely ever a factor outside of that season.

I completely forgot that he existed. When I first read that I wasn't sure who you were even talking about. 

[RollingPresidential 632]

I thought Jake Smith looked good early in that year. He had a nice TD against LSU. But "Jake Smith direct snap on 4th and 1" is burned into my brain as a peak Herman play call. 

[Bodacious Bevo 3583]

I remember one of the big dynamics for the 19 class was going out of state. Jimbo was able to capitalize on the first year coaching bump and some bags with in-state guys, so we ended up going out of state for replacements. Demarvin Leal, Kenyon Green, Demani Richardson, Dylan Wright, and Brian Williams were replaced by Tyler Owens, Myron Warren, Marcus Washington, Chris Adimora, Tyler Hookin, etc. I also remember the twitter slap fights about our WR class vs. OU's class of five stars (Jadon Haselwood, Theo Wease, Trejan Bridges). At least we weren't alone in misery there. 

[Beau Vine 54203]

6 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

I remember one of the big dynamics for the 19 class was going out of state. Jimbo was able to capitalize on the first year coaching bump and some bags with in-state guys, so we ended up going out of state for replacements. Demarvin Leal, Kenyon Green, Demani Richardson, Dylan Wright, and Brian Williams were replaced by Tyler Owens, Myron Warren, Marcus Washington, Chris Adimora, Tyler Hookin, etc. I also remember the twitter slap fights about our WR class vs. OU's class of five stars (Jadon Haselwood, Theo Wease, Trejan Bridges). At least we weren't alone in misery there. 

Tyler Owens is from Plano.

[Bodacious Bevo 3583]

4 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Tyler Owens is from Plano.

Sorry, as I was compiling the list I forgot about the whole out of state thing and just listed the replacements. Hookfin was in-state too. But the original point about going OOS was a big theme with Bru, Floyd, Smith, etc. The spin was about going national after the sugar bowl win, but really we were just missing on guys. And without NIL and the SEC, we weren't even really making in-roads to southeast. 

[Lonestar88 4629]

1 hour ago, Sabalo said:

Why did Wylie transfer to TCU?

Jatavion Sanders.

Wiley got to be the #1 TE at TCU, he wasn’t gonna be that here.

[BabaYaga 15286]

Thought this was about the last few A&M mercenary classes that all bailed

[lilMAC25 3788]

The injury attrition from that class was incredible.

 

 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18547]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

3) Rather than thinking through the 5 star and high 4 star impacts, going the opposite route and looking at a few teams and their classes over a 5 year period and seeing how many guys ranked outside of the top 250 nationally played key roles on their team, and how those teams performed. Maybe there are some interesting indicators there that would help thinking about intangibles like evaluation, development, luck and such differently. Maybe it's all noise. That's why it intrigues me.

I've got some time right now and many of the stupid tangents that all of the threads are taking have bored me, so I'm pondering topics that might be interesting to me and some of you non-idiots posting here. 

I think looking at the outlier playoff teams would be more interesting -- specifically TCU last year and Washington this year, and maybe Cincinnati in 2021. TCU had 8 guys drafted off their playoff team. Cincy had 9 drafted off the 2021 team. TCU had a new coach. UW coach was in year 2. They both won primarily with players recruited by somebody else.

[TreatyOak 16311]

[The Dog 44017]

Did a quick search on where everyone ended up. Some we already know; some were "what happened to that guy?"

Bru McCoy - most know he went back to USC then to Tennessee. Was a starter before a season-ending injury. Coming back for a sixth year.

Jake Smith has transferred to USC then to Arizona State and hasn't played since 2020 at Texas. Coming back for a sixth year I think.

Myron Warren played as a backup DT for Texas State. 

Admiora was a backup LB for SMU last season. 

Tyler Johnson was the starting LG for UH last year and transferred to play his sixth year for Coach Prime. Maybe he can get that rap career going?

Kennedy Lewis transferred to UTSA and then (had to dig for this one) East Los Angeles College. On3 has an RPM for him to transfer to Charlotte. 

Marcus Tillman transferred to Navarro JC and then committed, then de-committed, then re-committed and signed with Memphis in December 2022. He wasn't on the roster last fall so who knows where he ended up.

[Fondren & Main 6699]

3 hours ago, Sabalo said:

Why did Wylie transfer to TCU?

Some people get fired from their jobs and never amount to shit.  Others find their resolve and go on to bigger and better things.

[Fondren & Main 6699]

7 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Did a quick search on where everyone ended up. Some we already know; some were "what happened to that guy?"

Bru McCoy - most know he went back to USC then to Tennessee. Was a starter before a season-ending injury. Coming back for a sixth year.

Jake Smith has transferred to USC then to Arizona State and hasn't played since 2020 at Texas. Coming back for a sixth year I think.

Myron Warren played as a backup DT for Texas State. 

Admiora was a backup LB for SMU last season. 

Tyler Johnson was the starting LG for UH last year and transferred to play his sixth year for Coach Prime. Maybe he can get that rap career going?

Kennedy Lewis transferred to UTSA and then (had to dig for this one) East Los Angeles College. On3 has an RPM for him to transfer to Charlotte. 

Marcus Tillman transferred to Navarro JC and then committed, then de-committed, then re-committed and signed with Memphis in December 2022. He wasn't on the roster last fall so who knows where he ended up.

Kennedy Lewis and DGF to play for Biff Poggi.  That should inspire some prose from @closetojumpingnext year.

[Rimbo 25908]

11 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Did a quick search on where everyone ended up. Some we already know; some were "what happened to that guy?"

Bru McCoy - most know he went back to USC then to Tennessee. Was a starter before a season-ending injury. Coming back for a sixth year.

Jake Smith has transferred to USC then to Arizona State and hasn't played since 2020 at Texas. Coming back for a sixth year I think.

Myron Warren played as a backup DT for Texas State. 

Admiora was a backup LB for SMU last season. 

Tyler Johnson was the starting LG for UH last year and transferred to play his sixth year for Coach Prime. Maybe he can get that rap career going?

Kennedy Lewis transferred to UTSA and then (had to dig for this one) East Los Angeles College. On3 has an RPM for him to transfer to Charlotte. 

Marcus Tillman transferred to Navarro JC and then committed, then de-committed, then re-committed and signed with Memphis in December 2022. He wasn't on the roster last fall so who knows where he ended up.

So many of the names from this class have me reacting like:

Many of them look vaguely familiar, like I remember them being mentioned, and then just forgotten about.

[Hornbeliever 712]

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

 

I've got some time right now and many of the stupid tangents that all of the threads are taking have bored me, so I'm pondering topics that might be interesting to me and some of you non-idiots posting here. 

What about a deep dive on Super Blue Chips?  And on how many calories four Arby's sandwiches have in them?.......sorry, just saw those are covered by someone elsewhere.

I wish there was some easy to understand metric that amounts to something like stars per win during their sophomore to senior years.  I only care about NFL future because that implies they were great players during college, in theory, and that should have led to wins. Super half baked since I know attrition and transfers and injuries mess up the class calcs.  I guess I'd one day like to see something that relates overall class stars to wins since one could define how well players played to the win-loss column and not to how many had brighter future post-Texas.

[CHIEF 5075]

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

There are a few tangents to this thread that I've pondered as well. 

1) Something similar to this thread regarding the 2022 Texas A&M class. 

2) Looking at the opposite premise - can a single class make you playoff compatible?

3) Rather than thinking through the 5 star and high 4 star impacts, going the opposite route and looking at a few teams and their classes over a 5 year period and seeing how many guys ranked outside of the top 250 nationally played key roles on their team, and how those teams performed. Maybe there are some interesting indicators there that would help thinking about intangibles like evaluation, development, luck and such differently. Maybe it's all noise. That's why it intrigues me.

I've got some time right now and many of the stupid tangents that all of the threads are taking have bored me, so I'm pondering topics that might be interesting to me and some of you non-idiots posting here. 

it's so bad, I just scroll to see if there is a new recruit/transfer that has their own post. God, I hate the offseason.

CHIEF

[SamMan 1362]

7 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Degabriel Floyd, who Texas needed at LB early, never played a down due to medial issues.

Not sure if this was an intentional turn of phrase..if so, well played. Those cervical spine issues certainly made him mid as fuck. Was happy to see him persevere and eventually overcome those obstacles, though. I remember when Brown had his medical emergency. That was some scary shit. Talk about slings and fucking arrows...Floyd, Brown, and Mpagi are winners in my book.

[IDIOTsavant 8482]

5 hours ago, closetojumping said:

3) Rather than thinking through the 5 star and high 4 star impacts, going the opposite route and looking at a few teams and their classes over a 5 year period and seeing how many guys ranked outside of the top 250 nationally played key roles on their team, and how those teams performed. Maybe there are some interesting indicators there that would help thinking about intangibles like evaluation, development, luck and such differently. Maybe it's all noise. That's why it intrigues me.

I've got some time right now and many of the stupid tangents that all of the threads are taking have bored me, so I'm pondering topics that might be interesting to me and some of you non-idiots posting here. 

Michigan would make a great subject for this topic. Their last Top 5 class was 2017, but I feel like most of the top of that class flamed out, and the lower ranked guys formed the backbone of the last couple of years. Classes have been ranked between 10-20 since, but the results were significantly better than Harbaugh’s early tenure when he seemed to be star chasing.

[Gut Wagon 8065]

6 hours ago, irishtexan said:

Two of the three most productive players in the class were Roschon Johnson and Sweat. One was recruited as a QB and the other was the lowest-rated guy in the class. Whittington was a good player and a great culture guy. The rest of the class was straight ass, my dudes. 

If JWhitt had the heart of a bunch of less accomplished Texas recruits, he'd have added to the long list of busts. If a bunch of those guys had his heart, they'd now be much more favorably remembered. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12175]

10 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

The lowest-ranked recruit is going to be the highest draft pick (assuming he goes before the 115th pick, which he will). Thats just wild. 

This...makes no sense?

[immamac 42832]

11 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

This...makes no sense?

From that class specifically no one got drafted higher than 115. It makes sense. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12175]

39 minutes ago, immamac said:

From that class specifically no one got drafted higher than 115. It makes sense. 

I see now. Took me a moment from you explaining it. Thanks! 

[Bigbend1812 12915]

How many times do I have to say this guys?

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

[Bevo 13559]

With the way that we process, I don't think a single class can kill. You recruit 27 and bring in 6 transfers and keep 6 or 7 from a class like that and that is 40 guys to build a team from. That's fine if you did well in the year before the crappy class - If that earlier class had 26 guys and 6 transfers, that is basically a full 85 man roster after all the chaff has been rooted out.  The key is a healthy roster churn like Glasscock helped manage.

[statsman 5449]

It is remarkable- a #3 class busting so badly. It’s an indictment not just of Texas’ scouting/recruiting, but also how team class rankings are determined. 
 
It was a Herman special- there are five OL on the field, so about 22% of the positions playing. In a class of 26, Texas took four OL, about 15%. (None panned out) 

Typically, there are 3-5 WRs on the field. Texas took six. The rankings should punish teams for letting their roster get out of whack, but they don’t. 

[JBJ 3654]

40 minutes ago, Bevo said:

With the way that we process, I don't think a single class can kill. You recruit 27 and bring in 6 transfers and keep 6 or 7 from a class like that and that is 40 guys to build a team from. That's fine if you did well in the year before the crappy class - If that earlier class had 26 guys and 6 transfers, that is basically a full 85 man roster after all the chaff has been rooted out.  The key is a healthy roster churn like Glasscock helped manage.

I don't think it can now in the portal era.  You can easily churn through 100+ players over 4 years without being an unethical pos.  Pre-portal, with normal attirbution, it was hard to overcome.

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The last time someone did a deep dive on recruiting rankings, wins, and draft picks, the conclusion was that quantity absolutely destroys quality.  As an example, one of the worst places to go as a top 100 player if you wanted to be drafted was Alabama.  Their bust rate was in the 70% range, but they just had so many that they were sending a handful every draft and that drove perception.

[USNALonghorn 5078]

18 hours ago, Sabalo said:

Why did Wylie transfer to TCU?

To show off his toughness to the world in the CFP final against UGA

[Bevo 13559]

1 hour ago, JBJ said:

The last time someone did a deep dive on recruiting rankings, wins, and draft picks, the conclusion was that quantity absolutely destroys quality.  As an example, one of the worst places to go as a top 100 player if you wanted to be drafted was Alabama.  Their bust rate was in the 70% range, but they just had so many that they were sending a handful every draft and that drove perception.

 

That's what I would guess - and that was the biggest problem with many of our previous classes (in addition to unbalanced recruiting) - we held on to guys who had no place on a D1 roster. If we would have had much larger classes and gotten rid of guys quicker, we would have been much deeper and had better teams.

[Davis Lane 5577]

17 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

[statsman 5449]

How about the 2021 class? Ranked #15, but with several guys to be drafted after three years- Worthy, Sanders, Murphy, Brooks, with others still playing and contributing, with a chance at the NFL in the future. 

[closetojumping 62510]

16 minutes ago, statsman said:

How about the 2021 class? Ranked #15, but with several guys to be drafted after three years- Worthy, Sanders, Murphy, Brooks, with others still playing and contributing, with a chance at the NFL in the future. 

I was looking at that as a topic. Check out the 2006 and 2021 classes that were light and lightly regarded for varying reasons, and then what each of those classes ended up doing in the program. Pretty fun stuff. I didn't really see anything was transferable in thinking about either class, but maybe there's something there. I don't know. Got a few of these topics that are swirling around in my head if I feel like doing another one.