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15 hours ago, Fletch said:

Thanks for the history lesson. After I posed that I went down Wikipedia and was like “oh shit! Didn’t realize they were that strong of a program.” Lice and learn. Thanks for the history lesson, ctj. Truly appreciate it. I’ll soak up anything college baseball. 
 

Speaking of do you, @BillyGoatHill @Beau Vine or any of the other college baseball crew over here have any good books on college baseball history?

There are some diverse recommendations here:

 

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17 hours ago, Fletch said:

Thanks for the history lesson. After I posed that I went down Wikipedia and was like “oh shit! Didn’t realize they were that strong of a program.” Lice and learn. Thanks for the history lesson, ctj. Truly appreciate it. I’ll soak up anything college baseball. 
 

Speaking of do you, @BillyGoatHill @Beau Vine or any of the other college baseball crew over here have any good books on college baseball history?

First, I have to parrot what CTJ had to say about Ariz St. In the 70's and 80's, they had a damn good program and knocked us out at least once or more while in Omaha. Also like he said, if they, or Arizona would spend some money, it would be easy for them to be good again.

OK, so I haven't read very many books about college baseball in particular due to that I don't think there are many books that cover the subject in general. You can find books with a broad name, ie Road to Omaha, but it really just covers the 2008 Fresno St team. 

If you want some local history which covers the man, but also his philosophy about life and how it and baseball intertwine , and if you haven't already, read Augie's book, "Life is Yours to Win".

@Beau Vine probably knows this with all his trivia question knowledge....Who replaced Shoeless Joe for the White Sox after the 1919 Black Sox scandal? 

He's the latter half name of our field. 

My dad was on his taxi (practice) squad in 1957 while at UT, so I thought I would get it for him one year for him to see the other side of the man who would gruffly say under his breath " about time you learned to pull the damn ball" after Dad had taken one of the starter's deep over the right field wall in an intersquad game at the old UT ballpark, Clark Field (hence BillyGoatHill)

The book is "Bibb Falk The Man Who Replaced Shoeless Joe" by William A Cook

It's an easy read book (188 pages) that covers his playing time here at UT, playing in the pros and then back here coaching plus a bit on his WW2 service (though too old to be drafted) he enlisted at 42 leaving the coaching duties here at the school to Blair Cherry.

Not college related but still great baseball books that were recommended to me after Dad and my Mom lived in Okinawa for 4 years in the late 80's are "Slugging it Out in Japan" by Warren Cromartie (left in his prime from the major leagues here to accept a big contract from the Tokyo Giants and play for Sadaharu Oh) and the other is "You Gotta Have WA", about Japanese baseball in general and their approach to America's pastime.

 

edit :  Forgot to add... while looking to answer your question, I found another book on Amazon that will cover one aspect of college ball but I haven't read it yet. 

Its about the JUCO ranks and called "The JUCO Life " and it most likely covers the San Jac (conference foe) connection as the description mentions Roger, Andy Pettite, and of course Wayne Graham (all San Jac). Bit funny to me that Wayne was a on the UT team in '57 when my dad was there and then he was in his first yr at San Jac as the head Coach my freshman year playing against them(Roger was a freshman there at San Jac Wayne's first year). Our conference was San Jac, Blinn, Beeville, Wharton , us in SA and one other CC, but I can't remember which one. Everybody's favorite college coach right now (David Pierce) started his college playing at Wharton the following year.

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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Ohio State 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 2 6 1
Cal Poly 0 1 3 0 0 14 1 0 X 19 21 0

 

From Saturday's Cal Poly game. Can you imagine those guys scoring 14 runs in one inning? Or in a game? Or over a weekend? 

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29 minutes ago, Js1 said:

LOL B1G baseball is such a joke though, minus the one year Michigan had a CWS team. At least early on - they can't even practice outside. 

The Big 10 has so much money they can have indoor facilities. They just don't really care about Baseball.

And yeah that 2019 Michigan Team was frustrating because if they had beaten Vandy maybe the problem of the Big 10 just not giving a shit might be solved. It is a problem for College Baseball that the second biggest conference doesn't consider competing a priority.

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On 3/5/2024 at 11:57 PM, Fletch said:

Speaking of do you, @BillyGoatHill @Beau Vine or any of the other college baseball crew over here have any good books on college baseball history?

I've been meaning to see if I could track this one down.  Someone posted about it here or maybe on shaggy

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Florida State was up 8-1 heading to the bottom of the 9th yesterday and gave up 8 to lose 9-8. Today they were up 11-2 heading to the bottom of the 6th and lost 14-12.

From winning the series to getting swept. Baseball will always humble you no matter how good you think you are.

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32 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

Washington lost 3-1 and then 18-2 to Oregon State on Friday and Saturday, respectively. Now down 4-0 in T3. OSU is really good, but that series loss is going to be bad for Texas.

OSU scored 10 in B1st yesterday.  It was fugly.

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1 hour ago, MontereyMX said:

caught the tail end of this live but they never showed events leading up for context.   

LSU hit a homer and there was jawing as the guy rounded the bases. Both teams were warned, so when Cags struck out the next guy and started jawing he really should have been tossed because warnings were already issued. 

I think Johnson was also pissed at how his team was playing and was looking for a reason to fire them up.

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Oregon State lost 2-1 on Thursday and 17-4 tonight against USC who came into the weekend 9-15.. Seems like shitty bad baseball is making a stop everywhere this year.

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On 3/27/2024 at 4:41 PM, Beau Vine said:

That play doesn't work nearly as well if there's not a moron playing third.

or on the mound staring at the runner breaking for home and still lobbing it to third

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30 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Lulz:

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There's no reason for UGA not to be a baseball powerhouse. They have underachieved like no other program. If Pierce isn't recruiting metro Atlanta, that's mega fail.

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1 hour ago, zlavydra said:

There's no reason for UGA not to be a baseball powerhouse. They have underachieved like no other program. If Pierce isn't recruiting metro Atlanta, that's mega fail.

Truth, especially since the Hope Scholarships mean they're not hamstrung by 11.7.

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38 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Truth, especially since the Hope Scholarships mean they're not hamstrung by 11.7.

All of the public schools in Georgia and Florida have an advantage on scholarship numbers due to their respective state programs. Frankly, none of the top public programs in either state should consistently underachieve. Both have great local talent pools and advantageous scholarship levers for academically gifted players. 
 

Top-tier public schools like GT, UF, and UGA have no excuse. 

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Apparently the admin at Georgia didn’t want to pay up for a sitting head coach in baseball so they had to go get an assistant that would be cheaper. Johnson has been around a lot of great head coaches: Heefner at DBU, Van Horn at Arky, Johnson at LSU. Obviously his MLB experience didn’t hurt either.

Ended up making a good hire despite limiting themselves, which doesn’t happen often.

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Just realized the Athletic has been doing Monday college baseball roundups

Spoiler

Wake Forest opened the season as the top-ranked team in the nation. Duke grabbed some early headlines with a bunch of quality wins in the first month of the season. Florida State stormed out of the gate with 19 consecutive wins. And Clemson was the talk of college baseball a few weeks ago after its two dramatic comeback wins over the Seminoles.

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What about North Carolina? Is there a chance the Tar Heels might be the best team in the ACC?

It’s quite possible, after Scott Forbes’ club improved to 25-4 overall and 10-2 in the league with a convincing three-game sweep at Wake Forest by scores of 6-5 (10 innings), 10-6 and 14-10. The Tar Heels became the first team to get to Wake star right-hander Chase Burns, touching up the Tennessee transfer for nine hits and six earned runs in 6 1/3 innings (though Burns did strike out 14). They also became the first team to sweep the Demon Deacons in Winston-Salem since 2011.

The Tar Heels got it done with the long ball, hitting 14 home runs in the three games, including four by Parks Harber (three in one game) and three by both Luke Stevenson and Casey Cook.

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In early March, Kentucky opened up a three-game series at home with consecutive losses to Kennesaw State by a combined score of 23-3. The Wildcats have lost only one game since.

On Sunday, Kentucky run-ruled Ole Miss 15-1 to complete the program’s first-ever sweep in Oxford and improve to 24-4 overall and 8-1 in the SEC. With this sweep at Ole Miss and their series win at Missouri two weeks ago, the Wildcats are responsible for two of the four series won by road teams in the SEC in 2024.

Kentucky also started strong a year ago, winning nine of its first 10 league games before going 7-13 the rest of the way. Does Nick Mingione’s team have staying power this time around?

There is still much work to be done, but USC has won seven of its last 10 after starting the season with just four wins in its first 16 games. The Trojans swept a two-game set from then-No. 2 Oregon State over the weekend, with wins of 2-1 on Thursday and 17-4 on Friday (Saturday’s game was canceled due to rain).

On Thursday, ace Caden Aoki allowed only one earned run and four hits in six innings. On Friday, the Trojans took advantage of six Oregon State errors (three by All-America second baseman Travis Bazzana) en route to a stress-free 13-run victory.

Brody Brecht is off to a rough start in the Big Ten. Iowa’s hard-throwing right-hander, a projected first-round pick in the 2024 MLB Draft, gave up five hits and seven earned runs in only three innings of a 16-9 loss at home to Minnesota on Friday. The previous week, in a 10-3 loss at Purdue, Brecht gave up seven hits and three earned runs in five innings.

Brecht’s strikeouts are up in 2024 — from 12.7 per nine innings in 2023 to 16.7 — but his WHIP has jumped from 1.27 to 1.63 and he’s averaging fewer than five innings per start.

Three different SEC West teams have claimed the last three national titles. LSU, the 2023 champ, is hoping to avoid the same fate as the previous two winners: finishing in last place in the division in the following season.

The Tigers dropped to 2-7 in league play after getting swept at Arkansas over the weekend.

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So how does that compare to Mississippi State in 2022 and Ole Miss in 2023? The Bulldogs started 4-5 the year after their title and finished 9-21 in the SEC. Ole Miss went 1-8 in its first nine games on the way to a 6-24 league record last season.

Arkansas, meanwhile, is 8-1 in the SEC and ranked No. 1 in the nation. And although the Razorbacks are clearly an elite team — led by a fantastic starting rotation — it is worth noting that the three teams they have played (Missouri, Auburn and LSU) are a combined 4-23 in the SEC (3-15 in games not against Arkansas).

Missouri’s struggles continue. The Tigers scored a total of two runs (on 10 hits) in a weekend sweep at Vanderbilt and have now scored two runs or fewer in seven of their nine SEC games.

Missouri is hitting .144 in league games (almost 100 percentage points lower than the next-worst team) and has only nine extra-base hits in nine games.

Stanford, the only team to play in the last three College World Series, is 11-13 overall and 4-5 in the Pac-12 after losing two of three games at Utah over the weekend. The Cardinal have not missed the postseason since 2016, under former coach Mark Marquess.

Stanford suffered heavy losses from last year’s team that won the Pac-12 with a 23-7 record (five games ahead of second-place Oregon State), including its top four hitters from one of the nation’s most potent offenses as well as No. 1 pitcher Quinn Matthews. Most of those losses were expected, but the Cardinal were dealt a huge blow when All-America outfielder Braden Montgomery transferred to Texas A&M in the offseason. Montgomery, who also pitched for the Cardinal, is hitting .381 with 16 home runs and 47 RBIs for the Aggies.

Florida shook up its pitching rotation over the weekend, inserting closer Brandon Neely as the Friday night starter against visiting Mississippi State. Neeley started 10 games as a freshman (all on the weekend) but had pitched exclusively out of the bullpen since the start of the 2023 season.

He was solid through three innings, allowing one run on three hits, but stumbled in the fourth when he gave up two hits, hit two batters and walked one while retiring only one batter. His final line: five hits and five earned runs in 3 1/3 innings.

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Florida rallied from a 6-1 deficit with five runs in the last two innings, winning on a walk-off single by Cade Kurland on an 0-2 count with two outs. Mississippi State bounced back with a 12-2 win on Saturday, but the Gators secured the series with a Jac Caglianone walk-off two-run home run in the bottom of the ninth inning on Sunday.

 

Lamar had its 13-game winning streak snapped last Tuesday with a 6-4 loss at Houston. So how did the Cardinals respond? By sweeping Oklahoma in Norman over the weekend — the same Oklahoma team that leads the Big 12 with a 7-2 record in league play.

Lamar scored 31 runs and hit seven home runs in the three games, headlined by a 5-for-5, two-home run, six-RBI performance by DH Zak Sinner in Friday’s 13-8 win. Lamar, which last played in a Regional in 2010, is 22-5 overall and 3-0 in the Southland.

Georgia and Tennessee entered the weekend ranked No. 1 and No. 2 in the nation in home runs, so some fireworks were expected when the two teams met at homer-friendly Lindsey Nelson Stadium in Knoxville.

The first two games lived up to the hype, with a combined 12 home runs hit as Georgia won on Friday 16-2 and Tennessee rallied for a 16-11 win on Saturday. On Sunday, however, there was only one home run hit as the Tennessee pitching staff shut out Georgia’s powerful offense in a 7-0 victory.

Georgia slugger Charlie Condon was held to one hit on Friday and no hits on Sunday but went 5-for-6 with two home runs and three RBIs on Saturday. He still leads the nation in average (.505) and home runs (19).

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• TCU is working its way back into the mix in the Big 12. The Horned Frogs improved to 5-7 in the league with a three-game sweep over Houston in Fort Worth.

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• Washington State senior right-hander Grant Taylor threw a one-hit complete game on Thursday against rival Washington. Taylor gave up a two-out single in the first inning and then retired 25 straight (including 17 strikeouts) to close out a 4-0 win.

• Grand Canyon freshman Connor Mattison topped Taylor’s performance on Friday night, throwing a no-hitter in the Lopes’ 4-0 win over Sacramento State.

• UCLA outfielder Payton Brennan went 7-for-7 in the Bruins’ 13-12 extra-innings victory over UCSB on Tuesday. He raised his batting average from .193 to .342 in one game.

 

• Louisiana has won 11 straight after sweeping a series at Texas State over the weekend. The Ragin’ Cajuns are 20-8 overall and in first place in the Sun Belt with an 8-1 record.

• Clemson stayed hot, taking two of three from Miami in Coral Gables. The Tigers held a very good Hurricanes offense to a total of five runs in three games.

• UC Irvine has raced out to an 8-1 record in the Big West and is two games up on Cal State Northridge and Cal Poly. The Anteaters are 22-3 overall.

• Nebraska is looking like the team to beat very early in the Big Ten race. The Cornhuskers improved to 20-5 overall and 3-0 in the league with a sweep over Northwestern. Nebraska plays Creighton, which is 20-4 after sweeping Charleston Southern on the road, on Tuesday at Charles Schwab Field in Omaha.

(Photo of Parks Harber courtesy of UNC Athletics)

 

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9 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

LSU down 12-7 to SOUTHERN in the 9th.

Crazy how human you look as a manager when sugar daddy Marucci isn’t able to buy you an automatic win every Friday night

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1 minute ago, chase25 said:

Crazy how human you look as a manager when sugar daddy Marucci isn’t able to buy you an automatic win every Friday night

Saw a LSU fan post this the other day: Jay Johnson is 30-28 in SEC play at LSU when Paul Skenes doesn’t start on the mound.

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2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Saw a LSU fan post this the other day: Jay Johnson is 30-28 in SEC play at LSU when Paul Skenes doesn’t start on the mound.

Was it in the Fire Johnson thread at tigerdrippings?

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