Venezuela Invasion of Guyana

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,400]

9 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

This is Guyana

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guyana

 

It's almost exactly 1/3 as big as Texas.

[InkaUtexas 25,941]

14 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

It's almost exactly 1/3 as big as Texas.

With a smaller population than Austin.

[52-80 19,158]

Guyana doesnt sound very inclusive. Why cant they call it Girlana?

[deadshank 24,653]

14 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

Damn I was just thinking about my Venezuelan ex earlier today wondering what she is up to. That was some awesome sex

It was.  

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,976]

15 hours ago, Wally Fairway said:

ooooh - someone thinks they are Nostradamus or maybe Rasputin

Shoot him a few times and see if he survives. 

[Armybrat 40,845]

10 hours ago, F250 said:

Did you ever cover WWII in your history courses or was that considered current events.

The textbooks we used when I was an elementary & junior high school student in the 1940s & 50s only covered up to 1939.

[atomheartbevo 89,668]

11 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

The textbooks we used when I was an elementary & junior high school student in the 1940s & 50s only covered up to 1939.

What’d they say about Aggy’s national championship?

[Armybrat 40,845]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

What’d they say about Aggy’s national championship?

Just that the Corps was in training to win the new World War while the sips were lifting their little pinkies.

[Macanudo 12,979]

3 hours ago, deadshank said:

It was.  

Is Zepol a gentle lover or do you like it rough?

[FartingMonk 3,606]

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

The textbooks we used when I was an elementary & junior high school student in the 1940s & 50s only covered up to 1939.

My German history textbooks glossed over the 1930s and 40s.  Must not have been a very exciting time

[Gatorubet 30,238]

16 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Well…they should have militarized themselves 

I bet the citizens were mostly clothed in provocative petroleum based clothing

[RPM 26,321]

Doesn't ESA have a huge launch facility there?

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

9 minutes ago, RPM said:

Doesn't ESA have a huge launch facility there?

No--that's in French Guiana.  Which is to say, France.

[RPM 26,321]

7 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

No--that's in French Guiana.  Which is to say, France.

Too beaucoup for regular Guiana?

Edited February 21 by RPM

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57 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

It feels like we are increasingly back to the Might is Right phase and trend of geopolitics.

 

Ukraine says HI!

[Beau Vine 54,230]

Freshen up, freshen up, freshen up!

[InkaUtexas 25,941]

1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

I guess. I mean, Ukraine is ultimately going to lose and tons of money and lives will be wasted, but yes they are fighting the good fight and being a good proxy for the West.

Why do you think that? I don't see Russia taking over Ukraine. I see them fighting until Putin dies. But Russia won't take be successful in their stated goals.

Or the Russian army could collapse. This goes up if Putin dies. Please read some Eastern Front WW1 history to see how fast that can happen.

Now back to Guyana.

Full scale attack- They could not hold off Venezuela, except there is one caveat. Maduro cannot send his entire military on the attack. He needs them at home and to watch Colombia. So say he sends 20%. That is between 20,000 and 30,000 ground troops. Guyana can mobilize between 4-5K. What is needed now is a training program and the supply of light weapons. These do not have to be US or UK. They could be Brazilian, Argentine, or even South Korean. Establish the capacity for Guyana to conduct an insurgency and delaying actions.

Hybrid- Venezuela with external help (Cuba, Russia (mercenaries) undermine the government of Guyana. Start hitting the mining and O/G sector with sabotage. Spread out the small military and make them paranoid.

There has been a push within the OAS to have sanctions reduced. If Maduro attacks this is off the table. This is what I think it is about. Maybe he asks for a "cut" of the profits from the O/G finds claiming that it is territory Venezuela claims. And he needs the hard currency.

Edited February 21 by InkaUtexas

[Viper 12,109]

1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

I guess. I mean, Ukraine is ultimately going to lose and tons of money and lives will be wasted, but yes they are fighting the good fight and being a good proxy for the West.

Wouldn't the same happen in Guyana? 

[Brian Fantana 6,689]

26 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Why do you think that? I don't see Russia taking over Ukraine. I see them fighting until Putin dies. But Russia won't take be successful in their stated goals.

Or the Russian army could collapse. This goes up if Putin dies. Please read some Eastern Front WW1 history to see how fast that can happen.

Now back to Guyana.

Full scale attack- They could not hold off Venezuela, except there is one caveat. Maduro cannot send his entire military on the attack. He needs them at home and to watch Colombia. So say he sends 20%. That is between 20,000 and 30,000 ground troops. Guyana can mobilize between 4-5K. What is needed now is a training program and the supply of light weapons. These do not have to be US or UK. They could be Brazilian, Argentine, or even South Korean. Establish the capacity for Guyana to conduct an insurgency and delaying actions.

Hybrid- Venezuela with external help (Cuba, Russia (mercenaries) undermine the government of Guyana. Start hitting the mining and O/G sector with sabotage. Spread out the small military and make them paranoid.

There has been a push within the OAS to have sanctions reduced. If Maduro attacks this is off the table. This is what I think it is about. Maybe he asks for a "cut" of the profits from the O/G finds claiming that it is territory Venezuela claims. And he needs the hard currency.

You're trying to argue with a dude that gets all his news from the Joe Rogan Experience.

[ABSR 5,312]

2 hours ago, RPM said:

Too beaucoup for regular Guiana?

Now look, what we have here is a magnificent specimen of pure Bourgogne Crepe Snake.  But it ain't too goddamn beaucoup!

[NorthLoop 14,203]

26 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I’ve been listening to a lot of Joe Rogan as well, and I think his takes on this situation have been pretty informed and reasonable.  As we all know, ultimately the outcome is going to be determined by three items:

1. Which army has been vaxxed, and therefore weakened, more?  Does either country have low-t clinics to offset those effects, or at least do they know a guy with a hookup?

2. How adept at Muay Thai or Jiu-Jitsu is the Guyana civilian population?   If most of the Guyana women and children spar at a dojo a few times a week, then they could probably defeat the Venezuelan military in an invasion scenario even if they are outgunned.  But if they only train in boxing, Judo or Tae Kwon Do, I’d have to favor the army with guns in that matchup.

3.  Who does the Illuminati REALLY want to win?  

This is solid

[Beau Vine 54,230]

31 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I’ve been listening to a lot of Joe Rogan as well, and I think his takes on this situation have been pretty informed and reasonable.  As we all know, ultimately the outcome is going to be determined by three items:

1. Which army has been vaxxed, and therefore weakened, more?  Does either country have low-t clinics to offset those effects, or at least do they know a guy with a hookup?

2. How adept at Muay Thai or Jiu-Jitsu is the Guyana civilian population?   If most of the Guyana women and children spar at a dojo a few times a week, then they could probably defeat the Venezuelan military in an invasion scenario even if they are outgunned.  But if they only train in boxing, Judo or Tae Kwon Do, I’d have to favor the army with guns in that matchup.

3.  Who does the Illuminati REALLY want to win?  

[RDCanecutter 26,443]

From my recon (glancing at a map while on the shitter) it doesn't look like road maintenance is a huge item in the Guyanese budget, or that there are enough towns and farms for an invader to live off the land. So how are a mob of Venezoluchos even supposed to move or eat, especially once all the unknown spiders and insects and trained monkeys with poison dart blowguns start swarming?

I predict they grab a couple of oil wells walking distance from their own border, then it stalls out.

And for the umpteenth time, it's sad-funny when military juntas try to grab land because Spain once claimed it. Bitch you ain't part of Spain.

[Sandman 3,403]

I thought Venezuela was all starving snd shit. How can they hope to invade anyone without keeling over from hunger?

[InkaUtexas 25,941]

3 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

From my recon (glancing at a map while on the shitter) it doesn't look like road maintenance is a huge item in the Guyanese budget, or that there are enough towns and farms for an invader to live off the land. So how are a mob of Venezoluchos even supposed to move or eat, especially once all the unknown spiders and insects and trained monkeys with poison dart blowguns start swarming?

I predict they grab a couple of oil wells walking distance from their own border, then it stalls out.

And for the umpteenth time, it's sad-funny when military juntas try to grab land because Spain once claimed it. Bitch you ain't part of Spain.

Exactly. It is guerilla territory. Venezuela has never fought against one of those. I like the trained monkey ideas. get them to infiltrate Caracas and fuck up baseball games. That will cause some havoc.

I predict they talk a big game and try and destabilize from inside. Fund and opposition group, homegrown type of disturbance. Cheap and every country has an opposition. Some Guyanese lawyer/doctor attended school at the Che Guevara College of Development and Political Thought.

Fortunately there are not that many border issues that could become a conflict in Latin America. One that is overlooked is Belize/Guatemala. Another is the ongoing BS between Peru and Ecuador. Yeah, they fought a war in the 1990's and display their borders different, but neither country can really afford a real war.

[DDD Dad 14,339]

Anybody checked on Gunny Highway lately?

[InkaUtexas 25,941]

1 minute ago, Sandman said:

I thought Venezuela was all starving snd shit. How can they hope to invade anyone without keeling over from hunger?

Give zero fucks. Maduro is not losing an election no matter how bad shit gets. Want food? vote this way.

And yeah, they are hurting, which is why he really needs hard currency since that bus driver has a fucked economy.

[JesusSweatDuck 17,781]

28 minutes ago, Sandman said:

I thought Venezuela was all starving snd shit. How can they hope to invade anyone without keeling over from hunger?

 

I love that dark mode gives away all of you fuckers who have to use Google to spell words correctly.

[SL Xpress 7,514]

5 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

 

I love that dark mode gives away all of you fuckers who have to use Google to spell words correctly.

You make it sound like some kind of insult. I'm glad they bother. 

[Chad Fuck 17,681]

Man, I thought this thread was morphing into a "hot Venezolanas" thing.  

Now we're back to poo flinging guerrilla monkeys?  

I haz disappoint.

[Rimbo 25,935]

1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

I’ve been listening to a lot of Joe Rogan as well, and I think his takes on this situation have been pretty informed and reasonable.

 

Well... my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Edit: goddammit, you got me, and got me good

Edited February 21 by Rimbo

[Pescado_Rojo 19,416]

1 hour ago, longhornmatt said:

I’ve been listening to a lot of Joe Rogan as well, and I think his takes on this situation have been pretty informed and reasonable.  As we all know, ultimately the outcome is going to be determined by three items:

1. Which army has been vaxxed, and therefore weakened, more?  Does either country have low-t clinics to offset those effects, or at least do they know a guy with a hookup?

2. How adept at Muay Thai or Jiu-Jitsu is the Guyana civilian population?   If most of the Guyana women and children spar at a dojo a few times a week, then they could probably defeat the Venezuelan military in an invasion scenario even if they are outgunned.  But if they only train in boxing, Judo or Tae Kwon Do, I’d have to favor the army with guns in that matchup.

3.  Who does the Illuminati REALLY want to win?  

We could air drop some Alpha Brain and tilt the balance of power to the highest bidder!! 

[Sandman 3,403]

29 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

 

I love that dark mode gives away all of you fuckers who have to use Google to spell words correctly.

I copied and pasted it. Some of us are working and need to save time, Pal!!!

 

[InkaUtexas 25,941]

30 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

Man, I thought this thread was morphing into a "hot Venezolanas" thing.  

Now we're back to poo flinging guerrilla monkeys?  

I haz disappoint.

It could be. Lead by example. stop flinging poo.

Edited February 21 by InkaUtexas

[Pescado_Rojo 19,416]

31 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

It could be. Lead by example. stop flinging poo.

[Gatorubet 30,238]

8 hours ago, BeardIP said:

I haven't read anything current..

 

“I don’t usually post my prophetic opinions about international affairs, but when I do It’s when I have no idea what’s currently going on.”

 

[DDD Dad 14,339]

7 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

Now we're back to poo flinging guerrilla monkeys?  

Doesn’t every thread?

6 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

It could be. Lead by example. stop flinging poo.

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[Wally Fairway 5,550]

OP - update me

[Schulz2.0 28,951]

Brazil and Colombia call out Maduro blocking opposition candidates.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/mar/26/nicolas-maduro-blocks-presidential-candidate-corina-yoris-venezuela

[Bender Bending Rodriguez 1,678]

 

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On 2/20/2024 at 12:57 PM, statsman said:

Placeholder. 

Placeholder for what?

[RDCanecutter 26,443]

16 minutes ago, Bender Bending Rodriguez said:

 

Go grow your forests back in England and Scotland, broseeph.

[DCA_HORN 725]

Where are you going to grow your oil? 

[Bolero88 277]

17 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

US reinstates Venezuela oil sanctions.
The White House has announced it’s letting a Venezuela oil sanctions relief package expire, due to the Maduro regime’s lack of progress towards free and fair elections. Maduro committed last year to letting opposition figures run against him, but authorities went on to disqualify the leading candidate. The election is scheduled for Sunday July 28.

The US just loves tripping all over their own dick. Not like Saudi Arabia has any elections at all. Who the fuck are we to dictate how other nations rule themselves? I don't give a single flying fuck. Hypocritical dumbfucks all around. 

[atomheartbevo 89,668]

19 minutes ago, Bolero88 said:

Who the fuck are we to dictate how other nations rule themselves?

United States since 1811

[Gatorubet 30,238]

32 minutes ago, Bolero88 said:

The US just loves tripping all over their own dick. Not like Saudi Arabia has any elections at all. Who the fuck are we to dictate how other nations rule themselves? I don't give a single flying fuck. Hypocritical dumbfucks all around. 

Cancel culture is strong with this one. He wants to cancel all foreign policy and return to an American policy of Lord of the Flies by other countries is OK by me - so long as it’s not my country doing foreign policy junk.   Cool brah.   

Who are we to encourage democracy, to request that genital mutilation end, to promote religious toleration, to demand other countries enact/adhere to policies for the sustainability of international fishing, or to interfere with those other countries God-given  to perform genocide and junk…?

Is your solution to let other countries have foreign policies that favor their individual countries’ interests - but we are not to do that?

Inquiring minds at all.

 

[Bolero88 277]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Cancel culture is strong with this one. He wants to cancel all foreign policy and return to an American policy of Lord of the Flies by other countries is OK by me - so long as it’s not my country doing foreign policy junk.   Cool brah.   

Who are we to encourage democracy, to request that genital mutilation end, to promote religious toleration, to demand other countries enact/adhere to policies for the sustainability of international fishing, or to interfere with those other countries God-given  to perform genocide and junk…?

Is your solution to let other countries have foreign policies that favor their individual countries’ interests - but we are not to do that?

Inquiring minds at all.

 

Not what I said at all. We can, and should have relations with every country. We can and should not dictate how they run themselves. We have a strong relationship with the extremely autocratic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, yet we can't have normalized relations with Venezuela. Why not? It's hypocritical and actually undermines our soft power with nations outside the West and fucks with the global economy all at once!

[atomheartbevo 89,668]

1 hour ago, Bolero88 said:

Not what I said at all. We can, and should have relations with every country. We can and should not dictate how they run themselves. We have a strong relationship with the extremely autocratic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, yet we can't have normalized relations with Venezuela. Why not? It's hypocritical and actually undermines our soft power with nations outside the West and fucks with the global economy all at once!

We’ve been doing it for two centuries and others far longer.  Whether it’s the Great Game, or the Cold War, it comes down to commerce and geography.

[InkaUtexas 25,941]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

We’ve been doing it for two centuries and others far longer.  Whether it’s the Great Game, or the Cold War, it comes down to commerce and geography.

The Great Game was mainly the Brits. We were busy conquering the West and getting ready for the Civil War.

[SquishMitten 10,408]

2 hours ago, Bolero88 said:

Not what I said at all. We can, and should have relations with every country. We can and should not dictate how they run themselves. We have a strong relationship with the extremely autocratic Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, yet we can't have normalized relations with Venezuela. Why not? It's hypocritical and actually undermines our soft power with nations outside the West and fucks with the global economy all at once!

Are you of the belief both of these countries are exactly equal and have the same leverage to push back against policies we try to place upon them? Like, I can scold my child if they’re acting up at the grocery store, but I’m not going to tell Conor McGregor to stop eating grapes in the produce section

Edited April 18 by SquishMitten