The KGB Warning to America Video

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

 

A couple of things:

Yuri frames this with Marxist/Leninist as the ideology that is pushed on the American people for subversion purposes.  While this was true in Soviet times, the ideology of Russia today is much more neo-fascist so it makes sense the Kremlin would use the same tactics with an ideology and geopolitical goals closer to the Putin regime.  However, his warnings about the dangers of socialist fascism from the left and the big brother government shouldn’t go ignored.

Yuri says the demoralization process takes 15 to 20 years to mature to completion.  Several scholars, including Clint Watts, have noted the demoralization process is much quicker now with new technology.  With the social media platforms, bad actors can easily spread propaganda to targeted audiences.  This quick deployment was unimaginable in the time of Yuri.  Watts puts the demoralization process at less than half the years with the new technologies.

If the demoralization process is much quicker, it’s my speculation that the counter to Russia’s subversion efforts should be just as quick.  The most effective counter to subversion efforts will not come from the U.S. government.  It will come from everyday people and the free press increasing awareness of the threat,  and helping others to educate themselves on things like media literacy and critical thinking.  The tech companies should also do their part to combat this problem in a socially responsible way but I’m not confident they will take it seriously enough (because shareholders).

[Barbara 120]

"Aim higher" is a hilarious part, where the useful idiots are considered to be already won by the Marxists. They aim to take over "conservative" media. 

What if this dude is just an excellent US Intel actor? I've never understood the fear of Russia anyway, they have a poor, drunk, and AIDS infested population. Maybe they have some dudes that are good at chess that the Government keeps on their payroll.

[Chrispy 132]

56 minutes ago, Barbara said:

"Aim higher" is a hilarious part, where the useful idiots are considered to be already won by the Marxists. They aim to take over "conservative" media. 

What if this dude is just an excellent US Intel actor? I've never understood the fear of Russia anyway, they have a poor, drunk, and AIDS infested population. Maybe they have some dudes that are good at chess that the Government keeps on their payroll.

The Russian population is in the middle of a serious decline, that’s for sure. The USCB estimates that by 2050, the population will shrink by 20% to a mere 111 million people. They average 15 deaths per 1,000 people per year, while the world average is 9. I was stunned to discover that the life expectancy of a Russian male is only 59 years old, alcoholism being the main culprit. Combine this issue with low birth rates, high abortion rates, and very minimal immigration and you have a disaster on your hands. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19,188]

5 hours ago, Chrispy said:

The Russian population is in the middle of a serious decline, that’s for sure. The USCB estimates that by 2050, the population will shrink by 20% to a mere 111 million people. They average 15 deaths per 1,000 people per year, while the world average is 9. I was stunned to discover that the life expectancy of a Russian male is only 59 years old, alcoholism being the main culprit. Combine this issue with low birth rates, high abortion rates, and very minimal immigration and you have a disaster on your hands. 

You say that as if a world with fewer Russians in it is a bad thing.  Other than some hockey players, female tennis stars and buxom long-legged pornstars, the rest of them can get fucked.

Edited July 17, 2018 by Fudge Nuggets

[Huckleberry 32,848]

2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

You say that as if a world with fewer Russians in it is a bad thing.  Other than some hockey players, female tennis stars and buxom long-legged pornstars, the rest of them can get fucked.

Well apparently the ones at the end of your list can, too.

[David Dennison 18,847]

7 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

You say that as if a world with fewer Russians in it is a bad thing.  Other than some hockey players, female tennis stars and buxom long-legged pornstars, the rest of them can get fucked.

Well, they did kind of help win World War II.

[Clob94 121]

5 hours ago, Chrispy said:

The Russian population is in the middle of a serious decline, that’s for sure. The USCB estimates that by 2050, the population will shrink by 20% to a mere 111 million people. They average 15 deaths per 1,000 people per year, while the world average is 9. I was stunned to discover that the life expectancy of a Russian male is only 59 years old, alcoholism being the main culprit. Combine this issue with low birth rates, high abortion rates, and very minimal immigration and you have a disaster on your hands. 

Russia is a paper tiger. They don't want war with us because their only shot at retaliation is an option that they just can't afford to do. 

[Barbara 120]

5 minutes ago, Clob94 said:

Russia is a paper tiger. They don't want war with us because their only shot at retaliation is an option that they just can't afford to do. 

China is the paper tiger. Russia, as Yuri has said in the video, puts the vast majority of it's resources into subversion. They have more success subverting the American people into defeating themselves rather than overtly defeating America. 

How do they subvert? Divide and conquer, put the extremes from both sides on center stage and have them control the narrative.

A delusional Gary Johnson voter believes his football forum is infiltrated with Russian bots because 1950s popular women's names skipped C. He's almost got it solved!

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

I love how the Russia subversion threads bring out the trolls. 

[Huckleberry 32,848]

China is the paper tiger. Russia, as Yuri has said in the video, puts the vast majority of it's resources into subversion. They have more success subverting the American people into defeating themselves rather than overtly defeating America. 
How do they subvert? Divide and conquer, put the extremes from both sides on center stage and have them control the narrative.
A delusional Gary Johnson voter believes his football forum is infiltrated with Russian bots because 1950s popular women's names skipped C. He's almost got it solved!

It's cute that you think I think you're actually Russian. You're about two steps behind but keep trying.

[Barbara 120]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I love how the Russia subversion threads bring out the trolls. 

Russia subversion is such a huge deal! Surly our intelligence agencies don't do the same all over the world and at home correct?

I like the "timeless tips" for simple subversion manual myself. 

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf

[David Dennison 18,847]

10 minutes ago, Barbara said:

Russia subversion is such a huge deal! Surly our intelligence agencies don't do the same all over the world and at home correct?

I like the "timeless tips" for simple subversion manual myself. 

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf

Ah, yes. The United States and Russia are morally equal. That's good both sides.

[TexArcher 37,761]

You're not even good at this, Barbara.

[MaybeACoordinator 8,349]

Last night Annie, today Barbara.

Vigilance is our watchword, Surly bros. 

[Red Five 40,835]

2 hours ago, Barbara said:

Russia subversion is such a huge deal! Surly our intelligence agencies don't do the same all over the world and at home correct?

I like the "timeless tips" for simple subversion manual myself. 

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2012-featured-story-archive/CleanedUOSSSimpleSabotage_sm.pdf

bye

[HOOK'EMHOOAH 1,610]

The world wouldn't be better off without the Russians, the world would be better off without the Russian government. The world would be better off without the Russian government invading them or interfering their internal affairs.

Cultural diversity is dependent upon having as many different uniqueways of life as possible. Cultural diversity is a good thing. Cultural diversity is how we grow and advance as a species.

[maninblack 7,974]

the world would be better off without government.

Ding

[HOOK'EMHOOAH 1,610]

16 minutes ago, maninblack said:

Ding

As a largely Libertarian-minded individual, I largely agree. However, there does have to be some skeletal body in place to ensure the rights of the people are maintained and defended against those who would try to take them away. Additionally, because each person has the right to do as they please as long as it doesn't harm another person, their property, and no one else has to pay for it some level of arbitration through the courts must be maintained. Unfortunately, its impossible to entirely do away with government but it can and should be limited ensure the will of the people is never subverted.