Kamala Harris 2024 - If you've got something to say, say it to my face

[Al_4_ISU 12454]

6 hours ago, South Austin said:

This is what a lot of us are craving for.  I'm not black or a member of any other minority group.  But I still remember the emotional charge of the possibility that Barack Obama would become the President of the United States, and I was euphoric when he won the election.  It was mainlining hope right into my veins.

Of course, our country has been sliding down a hill of shit since then.  But still, I'd love a dose of optimism and excitement like I got in 2008.  I haven't felt that in a long time, even in 2020 with Biden v. Trump.  While Harris may not be able to cure any significant part of our country's ills, she helps slam the brakes on the direction MAGA wants to take us.  

And this is really all that matters.

[Satchel 6935]

17 hours ago, BamaATL said:

I like this idea on a lot of levels, but mainly because Merrick Garland hits the bricks.  

While we are spitballing, Obama for SCOTUS sounds like a good start.  

All of her nominees need to be young as reasonably possible.

[sidis 9825]

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

But that is perfectly fine

overall theme correct. it blows my mind how much the misogyny comes out and what gets judged. i have an aunt who is a fucking democrat mayor of a town and the most ultra-feminist, progressive person and her response to my pointing out sunday that kamala had to be the one unless you want to lose atlanta, philly, pittsburgh, detroit, and milwaukee was "she needs voice lessons, her voice bugs me."

wtf, bitch?

that said, i do believe that ron's inability to function like a normal person and all these weird android trying to pass as a human displays of awkwardness completely halted and destroyed his momentum...a kind of slow burn howard dean.

[Js1 85300]

1 minute ago, Satchel said:

All of her nominees need to be young as reasonably possible.

I really have no issue her keeping most of the Cabinet secretaries, except she will and should probably make a change at AG, DHS and maybe SOS. 

Honestly, the quickest way she can blunt immediately being attacked by Dems is to replace Mayorkas at DHS. 

[Satchel 6935]

22 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm very gruntled

I’m with you…extremely gruntled.

[SydneyCarton 48070]

10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I really have no issue her keeping most of the Cabinet secretaries, except she will and should probably make a change at AG, DHS and maybe SOS. 

Honestly, the quickest way she can blunt immediately being attacked by Dems is to replace Mayorkas at DHS. 

I mean, they were talking about Supreme Court Justices, not cabinet secretaries. The age of those doesn't really make a difference. 

[Texas Jeff 1945]

Pete for SoS. He already knows all of the languages.

[safe sex 11704]

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

I really have no issue her keeping most of the Cabinet secretaries, except she will and should probably make a change at AG, DHS and maybe SOS.

Garland has got to go.

[Bama Llama 1450]

17 hours ago, BamaATL said:

This is the sort of invested engagement that wins.  I love it.  I was ride or die with Joe, but no way this sort of engagement happens without him stepping aside.  

An article in poor old AL.com today said it pretty well.  “Joe stepped up by stepping down.”

[YGIFS 19449]

6 hours ago, Satchel said:

All of her nominees need to be young as reasonably possible.

Pretty much this.  They're gonna have to sell everybody on "sure, they're not as seasoned as most justices, but..."   Folks need to remember Thomas was just 43 at confirmation, Roberts was 50, Gorsuch was 49, and Barrett 48.  It needs to be somebody 50 or under, period.  

-First thing is to of course to hope that Alito and/or Thomas is removed for cause

-Second thing is to hope that Alito and/or Thomas die.  Not out of the question since they'll be 78 and 80, respectively, at the end of her first term. 

-Third, pay attention to Sotamayor's age and health.  she'd be an 'older' 74 with her pre-existing conditions.  

-Fourth, Senate will be close for 2023-2025.  But 2025-2027 is arguably more in favor of Democrats.  But we know about first-term mid-term votes historically for the party out of the Oval.  No way GOP lets Harris nominate somebody in the final year of her year in office.  So they need to figure out the Sotamayor thing by end of first two years.  And then it's likely that if Thomas or Alito vacates their seat, they'd probably play ball and allow a new nomination.  By the end of her second term, no way Thomas AND Alito are both still up there so you could go from 6-3 MAGA to 5-4 Democratic nominees with a newbie in Sonya's seat.  But that's a long ways to go.

[Satchel 6935]

7 hours ago, DanTheHorn said:

She needs to stop talking about the assault weapons ban.  Keep it about what you stated above.

You’d be surprised just how ready America is for an assault weapons ban.

[Biff Tannen 45670]

8 hours ago, Js1 said:

But that is perfectly fine

lol he is so clearly an alien

[DanTheHorn 4921]

14 minutes ago, Satchel said:

You’d be surprised just how ready America is for an assault weapons ban.

It has gone from a strongly support of 44% in 2019 to 37% in 2023. It is the type of issue in which she is singing to the choir. She needs to go get independents so focus on what gets her those voters.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_042423/

[Satchel 6935]

U.S. support for banning assault-style weapons in the U.S. 2023, by party

Published by Statista Research Department, Jul 5, 2024

 According to a survey conducted in February 2023, 53 percent of all registered voters in the United States strongly supported banning assault-style weapons. Opinions were divided based on political party, with 73 percent of Democrats saying they strongly support an assault weapon ban and 29 percent of Republicans strongly opposing such a ban.
 

Gun laws by state 

As the Second Amendment of the Constitution allows for citizens to own firearms, many citizens take advantage of that. Gun ownership rates across the country have fluctuated slightly over the past 30 years, with Texas being home to the highest number of registered guns in the country. However, gun ownership laws vary by state, as some states are stricter than others. The federal government does not have many laws that control gun sales, so it is up to the states to create their own legislation. States such as New York, New Jersey, and California have banned military-style weapons, while many other states such as Florida and Texas still allow them. 
 

Political opinions 

Gun ownership is a highly contentious topic between the two major parties in the United States. 78 percent of registered voters identifying themselves as Democrats strongly supported stricter gun control laws, while only 22 percent of Republican voters strongly supported stricter firearm legislation.

[DanTheHorn 4921]

9 hours ago, Satchel said:

Political opinions 

Gun ownership is a highly contentious topic between the two major parties in the United States. 78 percent of registered voters identifying themselves as Democrats strongly supported stricter gun control laws, while only 22 percent of Republican voters strongly supported stricter firearm legislation.

Let them be the highly contentious red meat throwing party and go get independents that like hanging out in the middle. Like I said it is a singing to the choir topic. It buys you nothing that you don't already own and can only hurt you. It is my opinion that independents that somewhat oppose or are neutral on an assault weapon ban don't hear assault weapon ban they hear gun ban. You want to throw a little gun control at your base talk about background checks instead.

Edited July 24 by DanTheHorn

[Dutchrudder 11137]

15 hours ago, safe sex said:

Garland has got to go.

I would hope that Harris being a former prosecutor is just as annoyed with Garland as this board is. I don't know who she would pick to replace him, but I would hope she has someone chomping at the bit to go after some of these guys.  

[dcbc 14468]

25 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

I would hope that Harris being a former prosecutor is just as annoyed with Garland as this board is. I don't know who she would pick to replace him, but I would hope she has someone chomping at the bit to go after some of these guys.  

 

/kidding?

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

Thing about voting for Kamala in this election is, even if she's not what you want exactly, you know that going with her ensures you get another vote down the line. The democrats have demonstrated objectively that they believe in succession of power. A big fear of Trump is that electing him might be the last real election in american history if his project 2025 goes through. It's either live to fight another day, or lose forever. I think a lot of people can see that and are more willing to vote for the option that keeps future options open.

[Bozo_Casanova 26440]

13 hours ago, Satchel said:

You’d be surprised just how ready America is for an assault weapons ban.

It’s not worth the expenditure of political capital and wouldn’t make any sort of dent in gun violence even if it happened, but I agree that saying it deepens the commitment of some Democratic voters in some places.

[Bozo_Casanova 26440]

12 hours ago, Satchel said:

 

U.S. support for banning assault-style weapons in the U.S. 2023, by party

Published by Statista Research Department, Jul 5, 2024

 According to a survey conducted in February 2023, 53 percent of all registered voters in the United States strongly supported banning assault-style weapons. Opinions were divided based on political party, with 73 percent of Democrats saying they strongly support an assault weapon ban and 29 percent of Republicans strongly opposing such a ban.
 

Gun laws by state 

As the Second Amendment of the Constitution allows for citizens to own firearms, many citizens take advantage of that. Gun ownership rates across the country have fluctuated slightly over the past 30 years, with Texas being home to the highest number of registered guns in the country. However, gun ownership laws vary by state, as some states are stricter than others. The federal government does not have many laws that control gun sales, so it is up to the states to create their own legislation. States such as New York, New Jersey, and California have banned military-style weapons, while many other states such as Florida and Texas still allow them. 
 

Political opinions 

Gun ownership is a highly contentious topic between the two major parties in the United States. 78 percent of registered voters identifying themselves as Democrats strongly supported stricter gun control laws, while only 22 percent of Republican voters strongly supported stricter firearm legislation.

Americans: willing to argue about  literally anything that keeps them from dealing with isolation, abuse and despair. 

[RPM 26318]

The MAGA idiots work fast. Last night my supervisor came in griping about Kamala laughing at important subjects. I asked him for a specific moment and he was all "Well I don't know, but she does." This morning I run across a few MAGA posts and sure enough it's "Laughing Kamala." Guess they can't come up with anything legitimate.

Edited July 24 by RPM

[YGIFS 19449]

Someone who manages to retain a modicum of humanity (laughter), while about doing two of the most difficult jobs in the world (VP and running for President)?  Oh, the horror! 

Also, they keep bringing up this shit about her parents not being born in the United States.  I don't get that one.  As long as she was, that's all that matters---you 'Students of the Constitution'  

None of the first 7 Presidents of this country had parents born in the United States because it didn't exist yet.  

And the first President with two native-born U.S. Citizens as parents?  You guessed it.  Martin Van Buren.

Proud8Boy4Ever!

[Hookah Horns 3083]

4 hours ago, RPM said:

The MAGA idiots work fast. Last night my supervisor came in griping about Kamala laughing at important subjects. I asked him for a specific moment and he was all "Well I don't know, but she does." This morning I run across a few MAGA posts and sure enough it's "Laughing Kamala." Guess they can't come up with anything legitimate.

I'm sure he's parroting one of the Fox News cretins. 

['stache 21801]

4 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Someone who manages to retain a modicum of humanity (laughter), while about doing two of the most difficult jobs in the world (VP and running for President)?  Oh, the horror! 

Also, they keep bringing up this shit about her parents not being born in the United States.  I don't get that one.  As long as she was, that's all that matters---you 'Students of the Constitution'  

None of the first 7 Presidents of this country had parents born in the United States because it didn't exist yet.  

And the first President with two native-born U.S. Citizens as parents?  You guessed it.  Martin Van Buren.

Proud8Boy4Ever!

I can help you out here. They’re racists. 

[BamaATL 16593]

57 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I can help you out here. They’re racists. 

It didn't take Sherlock Holmes to figure that out, hell Larry Holmes could figure that out.  

[Handcruser 2805]

Just heard Kamala give a speech for the first time in years.  She is impressive and  is ready to fuck Trump up.

lol. She’s awful. So is Trump. We’re fucked.

[Js1 85300]

Thanks for your contribution, troll 

[Kermit 3156]

5 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

lol. She’s awful. So is Trump. We’re fucked.

Are you a couch? No? Then you have nothing to worry about.

[safe sex 11704]

5 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

lol. She’s awful. So is Trump. We’re fucked.

Can you explain how she's awful?

[Hefeweizen 5310]

23 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

lol. She’s awful. So is Trump. We’re fucked.

Serious question, what’s awful?  I know her background but don’t really see anything terrible there. Can you provide anything?  We know what a lying sack of shit pedophile trump is, but I’m curious now.

[SubliminalHorn 6786]

6 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Someone who manages to retain a modicum of humanity (laughter), while about doing two of the most difficult jobs in the world (VP and running for President)?  Oh, the horror! 

Also, they keep bringing up this shit about her parents not being born in the United States.  I don't get that one.  As long as she was, that's all that matters---you 'Students of the Constitution'  

None of the first 7 Presidents of this country had parents born in the United States because it didn't exist yet.  

And the first President with two native-born U.S. Citizens as parents?  You guessed it.  Martin Van Buren.

Proud8Boy4Ever!

Texags calls her Kackling Kamala. And then they all laugh and laugh about it. Seriously, adults. Adults think that’s funny and clever

[Js1 85300]

1 minute ago, Hefeweizen said:

Serious question, what’s awful?  I know her background but don’t really see anything terrible there. Can you provide anything?  We know what a lying sack of shit pedophile trump is, but I’m curious now.

If he comes back, it’ll be some combination of slut/laughs too much/soft on crime/not black/open borders/stabbed Joe in the back

 

[Handcruser 2805]

Thanks for your contribution, troll 

She sucks. Fuck off.

Trump sucks. Fuck off.

[Player 4575]

She sucks. Fuck off.

Trump sucks. Fuck off.

You suck. Fuck off.

[Handcruser 2805]

Can you explain how she's awful?

She’s not very presidential. That bothers me. I don’t think she’s very smart, and we need someone really smart in that position. I don’t thing she’s particulary articulate - and that position begs for expert level articulation.

I didn’t really like Obama - but he was thoughtful, articulate, and presidential. He didn’t embarrass us on the world stage.

I don’t like Trump, so don’t spin this as me being pro Trump.

I liked Clinton. In hindsight - he was more fantastic than I thought.

She’s just not our best - and we need our best right now.

You suck. Fuck off.

If you like Trump that’s fine man!

[Handcruser 2805]

What I am getting here is that there is no tolerance for people that dislike both candidates.

Is this correct?

If he comes back, it’ll be some combination of slut/laughs too much/soft on crime/not black/open borders/stabbed Joe in the back
 

Wrong. Not surprised.

[Mo Horn 8831]

1 minute ago, Handcruser said:

She’s not very presidential. That bothers me. I don’t think she’s very smart, and we need someone really smart in that position. I don’t thing she’s particulary articulate - and that position begs for expert level articulation.

I didn’t really like Obama - but he was thoughtful, articulate, and presidential. He didn’t embarrass us on the world stage.

I don’t like Trump, so don’t spin this as me being pro Trump.

I liked Clinton. In hindsight - he was more fantastic than I thought.

She’s just not our best - and we need our best right now.
If you like Trump that’s fine man!

 

Just now, Handcruser said:

What I am getting here is that there is no tolerance for people that dislike both candidates.

Is this correct?

You are welcome to your opinion, and free to share it. I just think you're wrong. 

[StassneyHorn 6575]

Pat yourself on the back, please. You’re not part of the problem, smarter than everyone here, and above it all handcruisin

[Js1 85300]

Lol not smart, not articulate. Not presidential. 

Probably the easiest and most common tropes against black women running for office.

 

[Dbeasy 15043]

3 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

What I am getting here is that there is no tolerance for people that dislike both candidates.

Is this correct?

Setting Trump aside, the issue is that your reasons for disliking her are either flat wrong or subjective drivel. You look like a clown. I was expecting some thoughtful response on why you don’t like her. 

[Ted Lange 16084]

4 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

What I am getting here is that there is no tolerance for people that dislike both candidates.

Is this correct?

 

It’s just a knee jerk reaction to the dishonest trolls that show up.  

[SubliminalHorn 6786]

Just now, Js1 said:

Lol not smart, not articulate. Not presidential. 

Probably the easiest and most common tropes against black women running for office.

 

I had something typed up about it but decided not to post it. It really is rooted in misogyny and racism. I’m sure he doesn’t see himself as either and I expect a strongly worded post denying it. But it’s deep rooted. Not presidential? What does that mean exactly? Not very smart? Like what the fuck? Just a different standard 

[Handcruser 2805]

Setting Trump aside, the issue is that your reasons for disliking her are either flat wrong or subjective drivel. You look like a clown. I was expecting some thoughtful response on why you don’t like her. 

You’re a clown for slobbin on her knob. She got obliterated in the last round of primaries she was a non-factor because of the things I mentioned. It is t because she’s fucking black.

She wasn’t when a major player in those primaries. There were like 15 people above her. She sucked.

Now she’s your fucking choice and she’s awesome? Your own party thought she blew chunks. Get real man.

[SubliminalHorn 6786]

Who fucking cares what happened in the primaries FOUR fucking years ago. How is she not presidential? Why isn’t she very smart? What are some examples of her not speaking well?

[safe sex 11704]

My dude the primaries were 4 years ago. Just because you don't believe in personal growth doesn't mean that everyone else stagnates with you

[Handcruser 2805]

Marianne Williamson lasted longer than Kamala. I guess she was fucking awesome too and you want to bang her or something.

[Biff Tannen 45670]

[mchookem 16325]

14 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

She’s not very presidential. That bothers me. I don’t think she’s very smart, and we need someone really smart in that position. I don’t thing she’s particulary articulate - and that position begs for expert level articulation.

I didn’t really like Obama - but he was thoughtful, articulate, and presidential. He didn’t embarrass us on the world stage.

I don’t like Trump, so don’t spin this as me being pro Trump.

I liked Clinton. In hindsight - he was more fantastic than I thought.

She’s just not our best - and we need our best right now.
If you like Trump that’s fine man!

 

13 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

What I am getting here is that there is no tolerance for people that dislike both candidates.

Is this correct?

well have i got a deal for you!

 

[WelfareBuysMyWeed 5388]

9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Lol not smart, not articulate. Not presidential. 

Probably the easiest and most common tropes against black women running for office.

 

Look, his problem being that's she's an uppity, big-lipped, thug has absolutely nothing to do with race, buddy.

[Handcruser 2805]

Let me go watch some vids of her and see the personal growth. I’m selling guns in Chicago so it might be a few days.