Kamala Harris 2024 - If you've got something to say, say it to my face

[Gatorubet 30,275]

3 minutes ago, ultimaton said:

how are you here, weren't sUNsPoTS supposed to wipe out global communications and send us back to stone age a few months ago?

[tchookem 3,905]

I suppose it is something of a valid point that she was not even hardly in contention in the Democratic Primary in 2020.  Part of it was inexperience and part I think that she was "a cop."
Now she's wildly popular.
But one thing I think has changed, and it's not so much her experience as Veep, but the fact that Biden has a fully functional and fairly smoothly operating Cabinet and other appointed officials (Officers of the United States). I assume that she's not going to fuck with that much.  I really hope she learned from the debacle that apparently was her VP staff and will stick with Joey Two-Scoops' people.
Also, yes she can be considered a "lesser of two evils" vote.  But, unlike most times that shibboleth is uncorked, the greater of the evils is actually, well, evil.

The good people who were pulling each other down in 2020 have decided to rally around one of those people. We all had our favorites in that group, and now everyone in that group supports Harris. And just lukewarm, hedging your bet support (that's what I felt Biden's supprt was). This is full fledged, and unfailing. If she's good enough for Pete, she's good enough for me.

[Brisketexan 105,186]

1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

It's why they're selling out so hard on the anti-democratic stuff now. They're like a sports team at the end of a championship roster window. 

Goddammit....why have you never used this analogy before?  Because it's perfect.

[chainsaw 9,873]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Goddammit....why have you never used this analogy before?  Because it's perfect.

JD Vance is the Bobby Bonilla

[tchookem 3,905]

My wife used to be very involved and cared about politics since 2015, but the last 8 months or so she basically forbade the talk of politics in our house. She didn’t want to hear any of it.
 
Since Biden stepped down, she is right back into it. She’s asking me to put on podcasts, hell, even CNN to watch Biden’s speech. She’s reinvigorated. She was always going to vote, but this has really brought her back into the fold. 

I was almost there myself

[Js1 85,452]

Broken Barbie is right once or twice a day, I guess

 

 

[Brisketexan 105,186]

Just now, Js1 said:

Broken Barbie is right once or twice a day, I guess

 

 

She should STFU.  She knew what Trump and Trumpism was when she went all-in on it.  When you vote straight-ticket Leopards Eating People's Faces Party, you have zero basis to bitch when they eat your face.

[Pescado_Rojo 19,427]

19 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Goddammit....why have you never used this analogy before?  Because it's perfect.

It just occurred to me as the MLB trade deadline approaches. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,511]

An elderly man I know who I am related to and is my father in law is struggling with “Kamala”.
He is a traditional Texas Republican of the John Tower/Bush sr variety. He hates Trump. He voted Hillary and Biden to vote against Trump. He will not, under any circumstances vote for Trump in 2024.
When Trump dropped out he was elated because he thought Manchin would somehow get the nomination. Now he can’t believe that Beshear or really any of the “traditional” candidates would consider “working for Kamala”. 
I asked him in 2008, didn’t he feel proud of America even though he had voted for McCain? He agreed he did and acknowledged this was similar, but it was just hard because everything has changed so much, but he would probably vote for Harris with my daughters in mind even though it would be uncomfortable for him.
 

 

Edited July 26 by Bozo_Casanova

[nbmishoid 963]

22 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

An elderly man I know who I am related to and is my father in law is struggling with “Kamala”.
He is a traditional Texas Republican of the John Tower/Bush sr variety. He hates Trump. He voted Hillary and Biden to vote against Trump. He will not, under any circumstances vote for Trump in 2024.
When Trump dropped out he was elated because he thought Manchin would somehow get the nomination. Now he can’t believe that Beshear or really any of the “traditional” candidates would consider “working for Kamala”. 
I asked him in 2008, didn’t he feel proud of America even though he had voted for McCain? He agreed he did and acknowledged this was similar, but it was just hard because everything has changed so much, but he would probably vote for Harris when my daughters in mind even though it would feel weird.
 

 

Thanks for sharing.  This is going to be difficult for many.   Maybe a loving approach, listening, as suggested above, is the only real way to start.

[Mittens 8,291]

 

[MrBig 5,424]

44 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Now he can’t believe that Beshear or really any of the “traditional” candidates would consider “working for Kamala”. 

You need to emphasize that Beshear and the others are not working FOR Kamala, they are working WITH Kamala alongside everyone else in this country trying to stop the Trump freak show. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,511]

19 minutes ago, nbmishoid said:

Thanks for sharing.  This is going to be difficult for many.   Maybe a loving approach, listening, as suggested above, is the only real way to start.

I think it’s good for those who are ready to receive it, anyway.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,511]

8 minutes ago, MrBig said:

You need to emphasize that Beshear and the others are not working FOR Kamala, they are working WITH Kamala alongside everyone else in this country trying to stop the Trump freak show. 

Not sure that helps. He’s struggling to accept what he already knows, at least intellectually: that a black woman could be President of the United States and that we are better off if she is. There’s really no getting an around that fact, other than meeting it. 

Edited July 26 by Bozo_Casanova

[MrBig 5,424]

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Not sure that helps. He’s struggling to accept what he already knows, at least intellectually: that a black woman could be President of the United States and that we are better off if she is. There’s really no getting an around that fact, other than meeting it. 

I know this sounds terrible but I would try to hammer home the fact that Trump is such an evil piece of shit that the only way to save this country from his incompetence is by electing a black woman as president.

If that doesn’t work, you can just say she’s Italian.

 

[South Austin 52,526]

And tell them she's arresting that little girl.

[TexEx15 17,549]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

An elderly man I know who I am related to and is my father in law is struggling with “Kamala”.
He is a traditional Texas Republican of the John Tower/Bush sr variety. He hates Trump. He voted Hillary and Biden to vote against Trump. He will not, under any circumstances vote for Trump in 2024.
When Trump dropped out he was elated because he thought Manchin would somehow get the nomination. Now he can’t believe that Beshear or really any of the “traditional” candidates would consider “working for Kamala”. 
I asked him in 2008, didn’t he feel proud of America even though he had voted for McCain? He agreed he did and acknowledged this was similar, but it was just hard because everything has changed so much, but he would probably vote for Harris with my daughters in mind even though it would be uncomfortable for him.
 

 

Just ask him straight up. Does he prefer his granddaughters grow up under another Trump administration or take a chance on the first Woman President, which if your daughters are anything like mine, is something they are extremely excited for.

[Biff Tannen 45,696]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

An elderly man I know who I am related to and is my father in law is struggling with “Kamala”.

This made me laugh

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,586]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This made me laugh

Same

[tchookem 3,905]

Not sure that helps. He’s struggling to accept what he already knows, at least intellectually: that a black woman could be President of the United States and that we are better off if she is. There’s really no getting an around that fact, other than meeting it. 

I'd acknowledge the decency that has kept him from voting for Trump. Personally, it's been the line that I've drawn the past 9 years... one side is decency, the other is Trump. It sounds like he's chosen the right side of that line.

I would say that these people aren't working for Kamala, as much as they are working for America... as I also believe she is. I don't know if you're trying to change his heart and mind (if such a thing is possible), but this may be a path to that... or just a way to help him deal with his cognitive dissonance.

[Bozo_Casanova 26,511]

1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

Just ask him straight up. Does he prefer his granddaughters grow up under another Trump administration or take a chance on the first Woman President, which if your daughters are anything like mine, is something they are extremely excited for.

Again, it’s not a question of voting for Trump and he’s already going to vote for Harris. It’s just an interesting window into the mind of an old man struggling to accept a world foreign to his own. There are a lot of those people in the Trump coalition who simply can’t.

[Bookman 4,639]

5 hours ago, Js1 said:

I had a dream last night that Trump did in the debate.  Kamala eviscerated him and he got so mad, he said it. 

Trump's going to pull out of that debate faster than he did with Stormy Daniels. 

[Js1 85,452]

Found Mrs. Handcruiser

 

[Nivek 16,949]

4 hours ago, Js1 said:

Broken Barbie is right once or twice a day, I guess

 

 

She is a bottle of peroxide away from being a Trumford Wife

[High Plains Drifter 11,050]

10 hours ago, Bookman said:

It's going to be great when six-time bankrupt failed businessman Donald Trump loses to a black woman. 

After that, I wonder if Republicans will reconsider their strategy of nominating simpleton fucking losers. Maybe next time try picking someone who's had some type of success at life other than being a reality TV game show host. 

 

Hopefully they'll nominate him again in 28

 

[Biff Tannen 45,696]

1 minute ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Hopefully they'll nominate him again in 28

 

Ideally he will be dead or in prison, but (assuming he loses this year) it would be quite hilarious if they did it again.

[Ten Bears 2,481]

On 7/25/2024 at 8:57 PM, Biff Tannen said:

My wife used to be very involved and cared about politics since 2015, but the last 8 months or so she basically forbade the talk of politics in our house. She didn’t want to hear any of it. 
 

Since Biden stepped down, she is right back into it. She’s asking me to put on podcasts, hell, even CNN to watch Biden’s speech. She’s reinvigorated. She was always going to vote, but this has really brought her back into the fold. 

Are we married because that sounds exactly like me.

Hi sweetie!

[tx 3 putt 77,250]

 

[tx 3 putt 77,250]

blew me away 

[Slacks 6,833]

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I thought that was AI or something

[Bama Llama 1,450]

15 hours ago, nbmishoid said:

Thanks for sharing.  This is going to be difficult for many.   Maybe a loving approach, listening, as suggested above, is the only real way to start.

It’s called wisdom and maturity.  Good for him.  But when did Trump drop out of anything? Maybe I missed something. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21,208]

4 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

It’s called wisdom and maturity.  Good for him.  But when did Trump drop out of anything? Maybe I missed something. 

Think he meant to type Biden. 

[Bama Llama 1,450]

The best thing about Kamala’s candidacy is what it did to the “PRESIDENT/PRISON” coin hucksters.  That bullshit commercial is still running. Only half kidding.  Who would even purchase such dreck?  Who would market it?

[Bozo_Casanova 26,511]

1 hour ago, Bama Llama said:

It’s called wisdom and maturity.  Good for him.  But when did Trump drop out of anything? Maybe I missed something. 

 

1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Think he meant to type Biden. 

Yes I did, and maybe I’m the one in cognitive decline.

[SydneyCarton 48,140]

22 hours ago, BamaATL said:

So lately the biggest dig is that Kamala at one point dated Montel Williams.  So what you are telling me, is that of all the horrible things to do in your life,either personally or professionally, dating Montel Williams is just a bridge too far.  

Meanwhile, their guy is a convicted fraudster, felon, rapist, draft dodging, abortion financing, traitor.  But that Montel Williams, just too much.  

 

22 hours ago, tx ind said:

Is Montel Williams that bad?  Yeah he had a shitty tv show but who cares.  He graduated from the Naval Academy and served for ~20 years and supports vets.

This. Y’all are looking at Monetell Williams the wrong way. Yeah, there’s nothing below a woman would find attractive. 
 

[WhatTheBuck 28,794]

Kamala. Damn. 

[SydneyCarton 48,140]

18 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

An elderly man I know who I am related to and is my father in law is struggling with “Kamala”.
He is a traditional Texas Republican of the John Tower/Bush sr variety. He hates Trump. He voted Hillary and Biden to vote against Trump. He will not, under any circumstances vote for Trump in 2024.
When Trump dropped out he was elated because he thought Manchin would somehow get the nomination. Now he can’t believe that Beshear or really any of the “traditional” candidates would consider “working for Kamala”. 
I asked him in 2008, didn’t he feel proud of America even though he had voted for McCain? He agreed he did and acknowledged this was similar, but it was just hard because everything has changed so much, but he would probably vote for Harris with my daughters in mind even though it would be uncomfortable for him.
 

 

 

18 hours ago, nbmishoid said:

Thanks for sharing.  This is going to be difficult for many.   Maybe a loving approach, listening, as suggested above, is the only real way to start.

I mean, this is the way, but I can’t get past…what makes it uncomfortable? Like do people. It believe the rights women have had for the last span of decades are real? 

17 hours ago, MrBig said:

I know this sounds terrible but I would try to hammer home the fact that Trump is such an evil piece of shit that the only way to save this country from his incompetence is by electing a black woman as president.

If that doesn’t work, you can just say she’s Italian.

 

It worked for Franco Harris. 

[Biff Tannen 45,696]

31 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Like do people. It believe the rights women have had for the last span of decades are real? 

English, motherfucker, dost thou speak it?

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15 hours ago, Js1 said:

Found Mrs. Handcruiser

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26,511]

37 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I mean, this is the way, but I can’t get past…what makes it uncomfortable

He’s an interesting set of contradictory impulses, as are we all. Especially as we age.

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Slut shaming, dog whistle racism, hatred towards immigrants, and being misinformed about inflation is about all they got right now.

[aggie08 21,511]

7 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Slut shaming, dog whistle racism, hatred towards immigrants, and being misinformed about inflation is about all they got right now.

So...Trump is still the favorite then?

[Aqua Buddha 14,599]

1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Kamala. Damn. 

Still not bad, to be honest.

[Red Five 40,877]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

This. Y’all are looking at Monetell Williams the wrong way. Yeah, there’s nothing below a woman would find attractive. 
 

It would be dumb in any election. But in an election against a rapist who has had multiple (who knows how many) affairs with porn stars....

[MissingInAction 25,135]

19 hours ago, MrBig said:

You need to emphasize that Beshear and the others are not working FOR Kamala, they are working WITH Kamala alongside everyone else in this country trying to stop the Trump freak show. 

This is what the trumpanzees are incapable of understanding.

It's not about Kamala. 

[SydneyCarton 48,140]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

English, motherfucker, dost thou speak it?

Sigh. 
 

do people *not believe the rights women ah e had for decades are real?

[Frank The Tank 1,497]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Sigh. 
 

do people *not believe the rights women ah e had for decades are real?

You can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning I guess. 

[gmr548 16,590]

7 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

blew me away 

I guess it depends on how we define "from," as Obama was born in HI and spent most of his childhood there. Still pretty interesting though.

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

I mean, this is the way, but I can’t get past…what makes it uncomfortable?

I read it as a straight racial thing with the allusion to Obama?

[SydneyCarton 48,140]

12 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I guess it depends on how we define "from," as Obama was born in HI and spent most of his childhood there. Still pretty interesting though.

I read it as a straight racial thing with the allusion to Obama?

I didn’t think it was clear. Gender? Race? Both? 

[ConferenceRoom 6,144]

37 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

I guess it depends on how we define "from," as Obama was born in HI and spent most of his childhood there. Still pretty interesting though.

I read it as a straight racial thing with the allusion to Obama?

Obama would be defined as being from (IL).