What is a Christian nationalist?

[texasdago 7376]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Non denominational bible church preacher in NC pushing back on some people in his congregation. The winds in these communities shift, and quickly. 
 

 

Thank you for posting this. I stopped going to our church and have not been back in a church because I saw how everyone sold out to the orange one. This guy gets it. More pastors need to be seeing this. And they need to be speaking out against the behavior we see by the one Christians seem to be following.

[Pato del Muerto 51914]

2 minutes ago, safe sex said:

You'll notice that when people do speak in tongues, they always (at least English speakers—the only group of tongue-speakers with which I've had interaction) use phonemes that are comprised of Baby's First Vocalizations. Because it's just gibberish, it's hard to improvise sounds that aren't in your native language. No English speaker of tongues is getting real Semitic phonemes out there. Just lots of "sha na na" and "manahaba" like shit. No complex diphthongs or consonant clusters. No uvular fricatives, voiced implosives, or clicks. Just basic baby bitch English nonsense

And often rhythmic 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21765]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Non denominational bible church preacher in NC pushing back on some people in his congregation. The winds in these communities shift, and quickly. 
 

 

I rarely post anything on Facebook, and I mainly use it to keep up with relatives and real-life acquaintances that I don't see very often.  I have a number of people that constantly bombard me with MAGA Christian Nationalist shit, and I think this is a powerful message for them.  I'm thinking about posting it and seeing how many unfriend me.  Can you embed TikTok into Facebook?

[Pato del Muerto 51914]

Yeah that video doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies at all. It’s still heavy on the “only one true path” theme, just altered that trump isn’t that path.  But it is only a portion of one sermon, so perhaps I’d get a different impression if I were to listen to all of it and some others as well to get a feel for his message. 

[UpperWestside 5990]

46 minutes ago, safe sex said:

You'll notice that when people do speak in tongues, they always (at least English speakers—the only group of tongue-speakers with which I've had interaction) use phonemes that are comprised of Baby's First Vocalizations. Because it's just gibberish, it's hard to improvise sounds that aren't in your native language. No English speaker of tongues is getting real Semitic phonemes out there. Just lots of "sha na na" and "manahaba" like shit. No complex diphthongs or consonant clusters. No uvular fricatives, voiced implosives, or clicks. Just basic baby bitch English nonsense

I don’t dispute how it sounds. My first interaction was as a teen and I had no idea what was going on. In college I saw it again, but not so much since then due to going to a Baptist church. I will likely never partake in doing it and I’m cool with that.
 

I just leave things be with religious beliefs, practices and customs. What a Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Mormon or even the Baha’i faith (Rainn Wilson was raised in a house with these beliefs and he’s an incredibly nice person. Met him once and he was so accommodating to random fans coming off the street to take pictures with him.) thinks and does is okay by me so long as it does not hurt or infringe on others who do not believe as they do. It’s the infringing on others that irks me and in the US it feels like most of this behavior comes from the Trumpvangelicals. 

[SydneyCarton 47099]

I'd like to answer the question in the thread title with "A fucking asshole."

[safe sex 11545]

33 minutes ago, UpperWestside said:

I don’t dispute how it sounds. My first interaction was as a teen and I had no idea what was going on. In college I saw it again, but not so much since then due to going to a Baptist church. I will likely never partake in doing it and I’m cool with that.
 

I just leave things be with religious beliefs, practices and customs. What a Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim, Mormon or even the Baha’i faith (Rainn Wilson was raised in a house with these beliefs and he’s an incredibly nice person. Met him once and he was so accommodating to random fans coming off the street to take pictures with him.) thinks and does is okay by me so long as it does not hurt or infringe on others who do not believe as they do. It’s the infringing on others that irks me and in the US it feels like most of this behavior comes from the Trumpvangelicals. 

I think your stance is admirable and one I largely agree with. But the only dickholes speaking in tongues now are Trumpvangelicals and those adjacent to them. It's such obvious claptrap and hokum that is used to further the brainwashing of their adherents and the oppression of their perceived enemies. 

I would similarly call out any other nonsense that was filmed in a government building shortly before the rights of citizens were endangered or removed altogether

 

Edited April 24 by safe sex

[Anastasis 23191]

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Yeah that video doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies at all. It’s still heavy on the “only one true path” theme, just altered that trump isn’t that path.  But it is only a portion of one sermon, so perhaps I’d get a different impression if I were to listen to all of it and some others as well to get a feel for his message. 

Yeah, I am not really promoting that guy nor his theology. I am fairly certain that we would disagree about most things, but in the context of the Christian nationalism tendencies among in particular the evangelical non-denoms, seems reasonable to amplify some of the voices in that vein that are pushing back. 

[Macanudo 12652]

1 hour ago, safe sex said:

You'll notice that when people do speak in tongues, they always (at least English speakers—the only group of tongue-speakers with which I've had interaction) use phonemes that are comprised of Baby's First Vocalizations. Because it's just gibberish, it's hard to improvise sounds that aren't in your native language. No English speaker of tongues is getting real Semitic phonemes out there. Just lots of "sha na na" and "manahaba" like shit. No complex diphthongs or consonant clusters. No uvular fricatives, voiced implosives, or clicks. Just basic baby bitch English nonsense

 

[Neonmoon 38126]

https://www.threads.net/@christian__nightmares/post/C69hNOruMzH
 

https://apnews.com/article/e00f6ee45955c99ef1e809ec447239e0

Chiefs Kicker comes out as Christian Nationalist

[Biff Tannen 44925]

7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

https://www.threads.net/@christian__nightmares/post/C69hNOruMzH
 

https://apnews.com/article/e00f6ee45955c99ef1e809ec447239e0

Chiefs Kicker comes out as Christian Nationalist

And not just on the gays and abortion front:

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Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia, as well as a growing support for the degenerate cultural values and media all stem from pervasiveness of disorder.

 

[F250 28380]

7 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

https://www.threads.net/@christian__nightmares/post/C69hNOruMzH
 

https://apnews.com/article/e00f6ee45955c99ef1e809ec447239e0

Chiefs Kicker comes out as Christian Nationalist

 

[C-Man 26536]

9 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

https://www.threads.net/@christian__nightmares/post/C69hNOruMzH
 

https://apnews.com/article/e00f6ee45955c99ef1e809ec447239e0

Chiefs Kicker comes out as Christian Nationalist

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5493651/2024/05/14/chiefs-harrison-butker-pride-month-sin/?redirected=1

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Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker, speaking during a commencement speech at Benedictine College, referred to Pride Month, the events in June demonstrating inclusivity and support for the LGBTQ+ community, as an example of the “deadly sins” as he advocated for a more conservative brand of Catholicism.

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“Not the deadly sins sort of Pride that has an entire month dedicated to it,” Butker said, “but the true God-centered pride that is cooperating with the holy ghost to glorify him.”

Butker spoke for more than 20 minutes to students at the Catholic school in Atchison, Kansas, saying he wanted the graduating class to prevent political leaders from interfering with social issues that impact their relationship with the church.

Butker, 28, criticized an Associated Press article on America’s Catholic Church, which detailed the institution’s shift “toward the old ways.” It highlighted Benedictine’s rules that “seem like precepts of a bygone age,” which include “volunteering for 3 a.m. prayers” and “pornography, premarital sex and sunbathing in swimsuits being forbidden.”

Butker said the story was an “attempt to rebuke and embarrass” places like Benedictine, and that it would be met with “pride” instead of “anger.”

Benedictine, a college with more than 2,100 full-time undergraduates as of September 2022, describes itself as a liberal arts institution aimed at “the education of men and women within a community of faith and leadership.” Butker, who called on religious leaders “to stay in their lane and lead,” praised Benedictine for embracing what he called traditional Catholic values.

“When you embrace tradition, success, worldly and spiritual, will follow,” Butker said.

In October 2014, the school ordered basketball player Jallen Messersmith to remove a Pride flag from his dorm room window.

Butker also used the speech to criticize President Joe Biden on several issues, including abortion and the coronavirus pandemic, and questioned Biden’s devotion to Catholicism. Butker also addressed gender ideologies and said that a woman’s most important title is “homemaker.”

“It is you, the women, who have had the most diabolic lies told to you. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world,” Butker said.

The Chiefs did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

While the NFL isn’t in season during Pride Month, the league participates in LGBTQ+ initiatives. On the Wednesday before Super Bowl LVIII, the NFL hosted a “Night of Pride” event in partnership with GLAAD, the LGBTQ+ advocacy organization. The Chiefs are among the NFL teams that have a Pride selection of apparel with rainbow colors.

Kansas City is among the many North American cities that host Pride events during June, led by the KC Pride Community Alliance.

Butker is a three-time Super Bowl champion with the Chiefs. He was a seventh-round draft pick in 2017 and made 33 of 35 field goals in the 2023 season.

 

[F250 28380]

Back when America was great Catholics were beaten, imprisoned or executed.

[Brisketexan 103161]

16 minutes ago, F250 said:

Back when America was great Catholics were beaten, imprisoned or executed.

Leopards eating people's faces, chapter eleventy billion.

Almost every one of these aspiring fascists is thinking "this new reign of repression is AWESOME!  I'm with you guys, let's repress like mofos!"  Then....when the fascists turn on them....the catholics, the browns, the blacks, the women, the insufficiently loyal to Trump fundagelicals, really....everyone who is not in the tightest inner circle of the Dear Leader, they'll cry "but...but...I'm one of YOU!  Don't you understand, I'm on your side!!"  Which won't matter for shit as they're unceremoniously shoved into the hole....

Useful idiots.  Every last one of them.

[UpperWestside 5990]

Christofascists in America have had it so rough. Hard to even burn a cross in a random person’s anymore without offending someone.

[BevoAbyss 1885]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Chiefs Kicker comes out as Christian Nationalist

How about we add to that: 

Christian Fascist Theocrat … who is 100% itching to violently repress women and LGBTQIA … reject vaccines and general science … and herd millions of immigrants and brown people on trains to the border.

Fuck that guy and his pseudo-macho beard. 

And guess what, you gotta know he ain’t the only one in the NFL or Chiefs organization with similar beliefs … or he would not be so open. 

 

Edited May 15 by BevoAbyss

[C-Man 26536]

14 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

How about we add to that: 

Christian Fascist Theocrat … who is 100% itching to violently repress women and LGBTQIA … reject vaccines and general science … and herd millions of immigrants and brown people on trains to the border.

Fuck that guy and his pseudo-macho beard. 

And guess what, you gotta know he ain’t the only one in the NFL or Chiefs organization with similar beliefs … or he would not be so open. 

 

Hell, the owners probably love it. Clark and his wife are the ones who drove the bus on HPISD banning a shit-load of "objectionable" books 10 years ago.

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/parents-get-books-suspended-from-high-school-reading-list/

[Nice Guy Eddie 13276]

Imagine standing up at a graduation, for a school with 52% female students, and telling the women graduates congrats on their academic successes but it's time for you to support your husband by being a housewife.  Congrats on spending >$100K for a wasted education.

but then again, I only heard applause in the video I watched. 

 

[SydneyCarton 47099]

6 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Imagine standing up at a graduation, for a school with 52% female students, and telling the women graduates congrats on their academic successes but it's time for you to support your husband by being a housewife.  Congrats on spending >$100K for a wasted education.

but then again, I only heard applause in the video I watched. 

 

Becucase it was at a brainswashed lunatic evangelical school. 

[BevoAbyss 1885]

51 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

it's time for you to support your husband by being a housewife. 

And the 1970s film The Stepford Wives saw it coming decades ago: the subservient sexy robot wife … created for wimp-ass men threatened by emerging female equality. Only now the wife is modified with 21st century cosmetic surgery and brainwashed at the megachurch.

That’s the evangelical MAGA-man dream goal. 21st Century Stepford Wives. Looks like Clark’s billions bought his model, a former Miss Kansas. Perfect couple for Highland Park. 

Edited May 15 by BevoAbyss

[Longhorn_Fan68 33697]

 

 

[F250 28380]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Becucase it was at a brainswashed lunatic evangelical school. 

Catholic but not one of the chill ones. These Trad Caths would probably be cool with burning Evangelicals at the stake for heresy.

[C-Man 26536]

Following up on my earlier comment about Clar Khunt. I’m in a “Trump is a fucking idiot” text chain with about five or six (mostly female) friends and my wife. One of our good friends responded to me posting that link that she’s heard the Chiefs have actually wanted Butker to be more vocal because Chiefs fans were getting pissed off that Kelce and Taylor Swift are so liberal.

[Orale 1079]

Anti-queer fascists are always snow flake crying about queer culture being shoved down their throats (tee-hee). Yet they love spreading their crack pot views and talk openly about how their religious views should dictate public policy. Ironic, don't you think. 

[TwiceHorn 30730]

35 minutes ago, F250 said:

Catholic but not one of the chill ones. These Trad Caths would probably be cool with burning Evangelicals at the stake for heresy.

And vice versa. Then they all gang up on the Jews. And the Morms. Then the 7th Day Adventists and Jehovahs Witnesses. 

 

 

[SydneyCarton 47099]

1 hour ago, F250 said:

Catholic but not one of the chill ones. These Trad Caths would probably be cool with burning Evangelicals at the stake for heresy.

 

[F250 28380]

23 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And vice versa. Then they all gang up on the Jews. And the Morms. Then the 7th Day Adventists and Jehovahs Witnesses. 

 

 

Right. None of these militant religious groups have tolerance for each other which is fine when we have the 1st Amendment and separation of church and state. But these assholes want to tear that down.

The main problem with these groups is that they all default to...

[F250 28380]

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

The point is that they are different religious factions vying for power. In their world you don't get to choose between Catholic zealot and Evangelical that choice is made by who holds the gun.

[SydneyCarton 47099]

13 minutes ago, F250 said:

The point is that they are different religious factions vying for power. In their world you don't get to choose between Catholic zealot and Evangelical that choice is made by who holds the gun.

Oh I understood your point. The man that gif is representing me. 

[Biff Tannen 44925]

4 hours ago, F250 said:

Right. None of these militant religious groups have tolerance for each other which is fine when we have the 1st Amendment and separation of church and state. But these assholes want to tear that down.

The main problem with these groups is that they all default to...

And I'm on the sidelines going

[ocugolf 1198]

As a person that lost a child to stillbirth at 8 months and tried for 5 years to get pregnant and only just now got pregnant through the miracle of IVF, Mr. Butker can eat a bag o’ dick. To talk about the most noble thing a woman can do is be a mother and then expressly call out the only way a decent percent of the population can achieve pregnancy is quite a belief. Further, his mom is a Research Physicist at Emory University in the Oncology department. I wonder how she feels about the speech. 

[Neonmoon 38126]

33 minutes ago, ocugolf said:

his mom is a Research Physicist at Emory University in the Oncology department. I wonder how she feels about the speech. 

Who do you think signed him up to the cult? 

[Jhawkmvp 1487]

On 4/25/2024 at 12:50 AM, safe sex said:

You'll notice that when people do speak in tongues, they always (at least English speakers—the only group of tongue-speakers with which I've had interaction) use phonemes that are comprised of Baby's First Vocalizations. Because it's just gibberish, it's hard to improvise sounds that aren't in your native language. No English speaker of tongues is getting real Semitic phonemes out there. Just lots of "sha na na" and "manahaba" like shit. No complex diphthongs or consonant clusters. No uvular fricatives, voiced implosives, or clicks. Just basic baby bitch English nonsense

My best friend went back to his parents hometown in KS to visit his relatives during high school summer vacation and ended up staying the entire summer because he met a girl and was getting some for the first time. His relatives, that he was staying with, were all bible thumpers so he got drug to their lily white church on Sunday. When they would do the talking in tongues thing, they would always push him to get involved. He would just start speaking Spanish since we had like 4 years of it at that point. They really thought the holy spirit had gotten into him since none of them spoke or recognized he was speaking Spanish.

[Foosters 17624]

[Anastasis 23191]

Here is the full text behind the tags. 

The parts that are being picked out because culture wars are among the least interesting imo. Shit, he spends exponentially more time talking about the Tridentine Mass. His main theme is an attack on the leadership of the Catholic Church with a flow through vocation theme and some silly imo adoption of American culture war framing. It's an interesting look inside the mind of a Traditional Catholic, if nothing else. Within the context of the Catholic Church, it's primarily a subversive attack against the clergy and the hierarchs. Otherwise he is pretty much just restating Catholic positions on those issues. Kinda sheds some light on the suppression of the Tridentine Mass/TradCaths.   

 

Spoiler

Ladies and gentlemen of the class of 2024, I would like to start off by congratulating all of you for successfully making it to this achievement today. I'm sure your high school graduation was not what you had imagined and most likely neither was your first couple years of college.

By making it to this moment through all the adversity thrown your way from COVID, I hope you learned the important lessons that suffering in this life is only temporary. As a group you witnessed firsthand how bad leaders who don't stay in their lane can have a negative impact on society. It is through this lens that I want to take stock of how we got to where we are and where we want to go as citizens, and yes, as Catholics.

One last thing before I begin I want to be sure to thank president Minns and the board for their invitation to speak. When President Minnis first reached out a couple of months ago I had originally said no. You see, last year I gave the commencement address at my Alma moer Georgia Tech and I felt that one graduation speech was more than enough, especially for someone who isn't a professional speaker. But of course president Minnis used his gift of persuasion and spoke to the many challenges you all faced throughout the COVID fiasco and how you missed out on so many milestones the rest of us older people have taken for granted.

While COVID might have played a large role throughout your formative years it is not unique. Bad policies and poor leadership have negatively impacted major life issues. Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder. Our own nation is led by a man who publicly and proudly proclaims his Catholic faith but at the same time is delusional enough to make the sign of the cross during a pro-abortion rally. He has been so vocal in his support for the murder of innocent babies that I'm sure to many people it appears that you can be both Catholic and pro-choice. He is not alone. From the man behind the COVID lockdowns to the people pushing dangerous gender ideologies onto the youth of America, they all have a glaring thing in common: They are Catholic. This is an important reminder that being Catholic alone doesn't cut it.

These are the sorts of things we are told in polite society to not bring up. You know, the difficult and unpleasant things. But if we are going to be men and women for this time in history we need to stop pretending that the “Church of nice” is a winning proposition. We must always speak and act in charity but never mistake charity for cowardice. It is safe to say that over the past few years I've gained quite the reputation for speaking my mind. I never envisioned myself nor wanted to have this sort of a platform but God has given it to me so I have no other choice but to embrace it and preach more hard truths about accepting your lane and staying in it.

As members of the church founded by Jesus Christ, it is our duty and ultimately privilege to be authentically and unapologetically Catholic. Don't be mistaken: even within the church, people in polite Catholic circles will try to persuade you to remain silent. There even was an award-winning film called “Silence” made by a fellow Catholic wherein one of the main characters, a Jesuit priest, abandoned the church, and as an apostate, when he died is seen grasping a crucifix quiet and unknown to anyone but God. As a friend of Benedictine College, his Excellency Bishop Robert Barron said in his review of the film it was exactly what the cultural elite want to see in Christianity: Private, hidden away and harmless.

Our Catholic faith has always been countercultural. Our Lord along with countless followers were all put to death for their adherence to her teachings. The world around us says that we should keep our beliefs to ourselves whenever they go against the tyranny of diversity, equity and inclusion. We fear speaking truth because now unfortunately truth is in the minority. Congress just passed a bill where stating something as basic as the Biblical teaching of who killed Jesus could land you in jail.

But make no mistake, before we even attempt to fix any of the issues plaguing society we must first get our own house in order, and it starts with our leaders. The bishops and priests appointed by God as our spiritual fathers must be rightly ordered. There is not enough time today for me to list all the stories of priests and bishops misleading their flocks, but none of us can blame ignorance anymore and just blindly proclaim that that's what father said. Because sadly many priests we are looking to for leadership are the same ones who prioritize their hobbies or even photos with their dogs in matching outfits for the parish directory. It’s easy for us lay men and women to think that in order for us to be holy, that we must be active in our parish and try to fix it. Yes, we absolutely should be involved in supporting our parishes, but we cannot be the source for our parish priests to lean on to help with their problems just as we look at the relationship between a father and his son, so too should we look at the relationship between a priest and his people. It would not be appropriate for me to always be looking to my son for help when it is my job as his father to lead him.

St Josemaria Escriva states that priests are ordained to serve and should not yield to temptation to imitate lay people but to be priests, through and through. Tragically, so many priests revolve much of their happiness from the adulation they receive from their parishioners, and in searching for this, they let their guard down and become overly familiar. This undue familiarity will prove to be problematic every time, because as my teammate’s girlfriend says “familiarity breeds contempt.” St Josemaria continues that some want to see the priest as just another man. That is not so they want to find in the priests those virtues proper to every Christian and indeed every honorable man: understanding, justice, a life of work, priestly work in this instance, and good manners. It is not prudent as the laity for us to consume ourselves in becoming amateur theologians so that we can decipher this or that theological teaching unless of course you are a theology major. We must be intentional with our focus on our state in life and our own vocation, and for most of us, that's as married men and women.

Still we have so many great resources at our fingertips that it doesn't take long to find traditional and timeless teachings that haven't been ambiguously rewarded for our times. Plus, there are still many good and holy priests and it's up to us to seek them out. The chaos of the world is unfortunately reflected in the chaos in our parishes and sadly in our cathedrals, too. As we saw during the pandemic, too many Bishops were not leaders at all. They were motivated by fear: fear of being sued, fear of being removed, fear of being disliked. They showed by their actions, intentional or unintentional, that the sacraments don't actually matter. Because of this countless people died alone, without access to the sacraments, and it's a tragedy we must never forget.

As Catholics, we can look to so many examples of heroic shepherds who gave their lives for their people, and ultimately, the church. We cannot buy into the lie that the things we experienced during COVID were appropriate. Over the centuries there have been great wars, great famines, and yes, even great diseases, all that came with a level of lethality and danger. But in each of those examples, church leaders leaned into their vocations, and ensured that their people received the sacraments. Great saints like St. Damien of Molokai, who knew the dangers of his ministry, stayed for 11 years as a spiritual leader to the leper colonies of Hawaii. His heroism is looked at today as something set apart and unique, when ideally, it should not be unique at all. For as a father loves his child, so a shepherd should love his spiritual children, too.

That goes even more so for our bishops. These men who are present day apostles, our bishops once had adoring crowds of people kissing their rings and taking in their every word, but now relegate themselves to a position of inconsequential existence. Now, when a bishop of a diocese or the Bishops Conference as a whole puts out an important document on this matter, nobody even takes a moment to read it, let alone follow it. No. Today, our shepherds are far more concerned with keeping the doors open to the Chancery than they are saying that difficult stuff out loud. It seems that the only time you hear from your bishops is when it’s time for the annual appeal. Whereas we need our bishops to be vocal about the teachings of the Church, setting aside their own personal comfort and embracing their cross. Our bishops are not politicians, but shepherds. So instead of fitting in the world by going along to get along, they too need to stay in their lane and lead.

I say all of this not from a place of anger as we get the leaders we deserve. But this does make me reflect on staying in my lane and focusing on my own vocation, and how I can be a better father and husband and live in the world, but not be of it. Focusing on my vocation while praying and fasting for these men will do more for the church than me complaining about our leaders. Because there seems to be so much confusion coming from our leaders. There needs to be concrete examples for people to look to, and places like Benedictine, a little Kansas college built high on a bluff above the Missouri River, are showing the world how an ordered Christ-centered existence is the recipe for success. You need to look no further than the examples all around this campus, where over the past 20 years enrollment has doubled, and construction and revitalization are a constant part of life and people, the students, the faculty and staff are thriving. This didn’t happen by chance. In a deliberate movement to embrace traditional Catholic values, Benedictine has gone from just another liberal arts school with nothing to set it apart to a thriving beacon of light and a reminder to us all that when you embrace tradition, success, worldly and spiritual will follow. I am certain the reporters at the AP could not have imagined that their attempt to rebuke and embarrass places and people like those here at Benedictine wouldn’t be met with anger, but instead with excitement and pride. Not the deadly sin sort of pride that has an entire month dedicated to it. But the true God-centered pride that is cooperating with the Holy Ghost to glorify Him.

Reading that article now shared all over the world, we see that in the complete surrender of self and a turning towards Christ, you will find happiness. Right here in a little town in Kansas, we find many inspiring lay people using their talents. President Minnis, Dr. Swofford and Dr. Zimmer are a few great examples right here on this very campus that will keep the light of Christ burning bright for generations to come. Being locked in with your vocation and staying in your lane is going to be the surest way for you to find true happiness and peace in this life. It is essential that we focus on our own state in life, whether that be as a layperson or priests, or religious.

Ladies and gentlemen of the class of 2024, you are sitting at the edge of the rest of your lives. Each of you has the potential to leave a legacy that transcends yourselves and this era of human existence. In the small ways by living out your vocation, you will ensure that God’s Church continues and the world is enlightened by your example. For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment. You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives. I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you, how many of you are sitting here now about to cross the stage, and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you’re going to get in your career. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world. But I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

I’m on this stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation. I’m beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me. But it cannot be overstated, that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife and embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker. She’s a primary educator to our children. She’s the one who ensures I never let football or my business become a distraction from that of a husband and father. She is the person that knows me best at my core. And it is through our marriage that Lord willing, we will both attain salvation. I say all of this to you because I’ve seen it firsthand how much happier someone can be when they disregard the outside noise and move closer and closer to God’s will in their life. Isabelle’s dream of having a career might not have come true. But if you ask her today, if she has any regrets on her decision, she would laugh out loud without hesitation and say, “heck no.”

As a man who gets a lot of praise and has been given a platform to speak to audiences like this one today, I pray that I always use my voice for God and not for myself. Everything I am saying to you is not from a place of wisdom, but rather a place of experience. I am hopeful that these words will be seen as those from a man not much older than you who feels it is imperative that this class, this generation, and this time in our society must stop pretending that the things we see around us are normal. Heterodox ideas abound, even within Catholic circles. Let’s be honest, there is nothing good about playing God with having children, whether that be your ideal number or the perfect time to conceive. No matter how you spin it, there is nothing natural about Catholic birth control. It is only in the past few years that I have grown encouraged to speak more boldly and directly, because as I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father and as a man.

To the gentleman here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent disorder, dysfunction and chaos set in this absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the US. And a correlation can be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well. Be unapologetic in your masculinity. Fight against the cultural emasculation of men. Do hard things. Never settle for what is easy. You might have a talent that you don’t necessarily enjoy. But if it glorifies God, maybe you should lean into that over something that you might think suits you better. I speak from experience as an introvert who now finds myself as an amateur public speaker, and an entrepreneur, something I never thought I’d be when I received my industrial engineering degree.

The road ahead is bright, things are changing, society is shifting, and people young and old are embracing tradition. Not only has it been my vocation that has helped me and those closest to me, but not surprising to many of you should be my outspoken embrace of the traditional Latin Mass. I’ve been very vocal in my love and devotion to the TLM and its necessity for our lives. But what I think gets misunderstood is that people who attend the TLM do so out of pride or preference. I can speak to my own experience. But for most people I have come across within these communities. This simply is not true. I do not attend the TLM because I think I’m better than others, or for the smells and bells, or even for the love of Latin. I attend TLM because I believe just as the God of the Old Testament was pretty particular and how he wanted to be worshiped, the same holds true for us today. It is through the TLM that I encountered order and began to pursue it in my own life. Aside from the TLM itself, too many of our sacred traditions have been relegated to things of the past. When in my parish, things such as Ember Days — days when we fast and pray for vocations and for our priests — are still adhered to. The TLM is so essential that I would challenge each of you to pick a place to move where it is readily available. A lot of people have complaints about the parish or the community, but we should not sacrifice the mass for community. I prioritize the TLM even if the parish isn’t beautiful, the priest isn’t great, or the community isn’t amazing. I still go to the TLM because I believe the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is more important than anything else. I say this knowing full well that when each of you rekindle your knowledge and adherence to many of the church’s greatest traditions, you will see how much more colorful and alive your life can and should be. As you move on from this place and enter into the world, know that you will face many challenges.

Sadly, I’m sure many of you know of the countless stories of good and active members of this community who after graduation and moving away from the Benedictine Bubble have ended up moving in with their boyfriend or girlfriend prior to marriage. Some even leave the church and abandon God. It is always heartbreaking to hear these stories, and there’s a desire to know what happened and what went wrong. What you must remember is that life is about doing the small things well. So setting yourself up for success and surrounding yourself with people who continually push you to be the best version of you. I say this all the time, that iron sharpens iron. It’s a great reminder that those closest to us should be making us better. If you’re dating someone who doesn’t even share your faith, how do you expect that person to help you become a saint? If your friend group is filled with people who only think about what you’re doing next weekend, and are not willing to have those difficult conversations, how can they help sharpen you? As you prepare to enter into the workforce, it is extremely important that you actually think about the places you are moving to. Who is the bishop? What kind of parishes are there? Do they offer the TLM and have priests who embrace their priestly vocation? Cost of living must not be the only arbiter of your choices. For a life without God is not a life at all. And the cost of salvation is worth more than any career.

I’m excited for the future. And I pray that something I’ve said will resonate as you move on to the next chapter of your life. Never be afraid to profess the one holy, Catholic and apostolic Church. For this is the Church that Jesus Christ established, through which we receive sanctifying grace. I know that my message today had a little less fluff than is expected for these speeches. But I believe that this audience and this venue is the best place to speak openly and honestly, about who we are and where we all want to go, which is heaven. I thank God for Benedictine College, and for the example it provides to the world. I thank God for men like President Minnis who are doing their part for the Kingdom. Come to find out you can have an authentically Catholic College and a thriving football program. Make no mistake, you’re entering into mission territory in a post-God world. But you were made for this and with God by your side and a constant striving for virtue within your vocation, you too can be a saint. Christ is King to the heights.

 

Edited May 16 by Anastasis

[BrickHorn 17990]

11 hours ago, Anastasis said:

It's an interesting look inside the mind of a Traditional Catholic

[softlynow 1612]

30 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I'm more interested in

 

12 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Here is the full text behind the tags. 

The parts that are being picked out because culture wars are among the least interesting imo. Shit, he spends exponentially more time talking about the Tridentine Mass. His main theme is an attack on the leadership of the Catholic Church with a flow through vocation theme and some silly imo adoption of American culture war framing. It's an interesting look inside the mind of a Traditional Catholic, if nothing else. Within the context of the Catholic Church, it's primarily a subversive attack against the clergy and the hierarchs. Otherwise he is pretty much just restating Catholic positions on those issues. Kinda sheds some light on the suppression of the Tridentine Mass/TradCaths.   

 

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Ladies and gentlemen of the class of 2024, I would like to start off by congratulating all of you for successfully making it to this achievement today. I'm sure your high school graduation was not what you had imagined and most likely neither was your first couple years of college.

By making it to this moment through all the adversity thrown your way from COVID, I hope you learned the important lessons that suffering in this life is only temporary. As a group you witnessed firsthand how bad leaders who don't stay in their lane can have a negative impact on society. It is through this lens that I want to take stock of how we got to where we are and where we want to go as citizens, and yes, as Catholics.

One last thing before I begin I want to be sure to thank president Minns and the board for their invitation to speak. When President Minnis first reached out a couple of months ago I had originally said no. You see, last year I gave the commencement address at my Alma moer Georgia Tech and I felt that one graduation speech was more than enough, especially for someone who isn't a professional speaker. But of course president Minnis used his gift of persuasion and spoke to the many challenges you all faced throughout the COVID fiasco and how you missed out on so many milestones the rest of us older people have taken for granted.

While COVID might have played a large role throughout your formative years it is not unique. Bad policies and poor leadership have negatively impacted major life issues. Things like abortion, IVF, surrogacy, euthanasia as well as a growing support for degenerate cultural values and media all stem from the pervasiveness of disorder. Our own nation is led by a man who publicly and proudly proclaims his Catholic faith but at the same time is delusional enough to make the sign of the cross during a pro-abortion rally. He has been so vocal in his support for the murder of innocent babies that I'm sure to many people it appears that you can be both Catholic and pro-choice. He is not alone. From the man behind the COVID lockdowns to the people pushing dangerous gender ideologies onto the youth of America, they all have a glaring thing in common: They are Catholic. This is an important reminder that being Catholic alone doesn't cut it.

These are the sorts of things we are told in polite society to not bring up. You know, the difficult and unpleasant things. But if we are going to be men and women for this time in history we need to stop pretending that the “Church of nice” is a winning proposition. We must always speak and act in charity but never mistake charity for cowardice. It is safe to say that over the past few years I've gained quite the reputation for speaking my mind. I never envisioned myself nor wanted to have this sort of a platform but God has given it to me so I have no other choice but to embrace it and preach more hard truths about accepting your lane and staying in it.

As members of the church founded by Jesus Christ, it is our duty and ultimately privilege to be authentically and unapologetically Catholic. Don't be mistaken: even within the church, people in polite Catholic circles will try to persuade you to remain silent. There even was an award-winning film called “Silence” made by a fellow Catholic wherein one of the main characters, a Jesuit priest, abandoned the church, and as an apostate, when he died is seen grasping a crucifix quiet and unknown to anyone but God. As a friend of Benedictine College, his Excellency Bishop Robert Barron said in his review of the film it was exactly what the cultural elite want to see in Christianity: Private, hidden away and harmless.

Our Catholic faith has always been countercultural. Our Lord along with countless followers were all put to death for their adherence to her teachings. The world around us says that we should keep our beliefs to ourselves whenever they go against the tyranny of diversity, equity and inclusion. We fear speaking truth because now unfortunately truth is in the minority. Congress just passed a bill where stating something as basic as the Biblical teaching of who killed Jesus could land you in jail.

But make no mistake, before we even attempt to fix any of the issues plaguing society we must first get our own house in order, and it starts with our leaders. The bishops and priests appointed by God as our spiritual fathers must be rightly ordered. There is not enough time today for me to list all the stories of priests and bishops misleading their flocks, but none of us can blame ignorance anymore and just blindly proclaim that that's what father said. Because sadly many priests we are looking to for leadership are the same ones who prioritize their hobbies or even photos with their dogs in matching outfits for the parish directory. It’s easy for us lay men and women to think that in order for us to be holy, that we must be active in our parish and try to fix it. Yes, we absolutely should be involved in supporting our parishes, but we cannot be the source for our parish priests to lean on to help with their problems just as we look at the relationship between a father and his son, so too should we look at the relationship between a priest and his people. It would not be appropriate for me to always be looking to my son for help when it is my job as his father to lead him.

St Josemaria Escriva states that priests are ordained to serve and should not yield to temptation to imitate lay people but to be priests, through and through. Tragically, so many priests revolve much of their happiness from the adulation they receive from their parishioners, and in searching for this, they let their guard down and become overly familiar. This undue familiarity will prove to be problematic every time, because as my teammate’s girlfriend says “familiarity breeds contempt.” St Josemaria continues that some want to see the priest as just another man. That is not so they want to find in the priests those virtues proper to every Christian and indeed every honorable man: understanding, justice, a life of work, priestly work in this instance, and good manners. It is not prudent as the laity for us to consume ourselves in becoming amateur theologians so that we can decipher this or that theological teaching unless of course you are a theology major. We must be intentional with our focus on our state in life and our own vocation, and for most of us, that's as married men and women.

Still we have so many great resources at our fingertips that it doesn't take long to find traditional and timeless teachings that haven't been ambiguously rewarded for our times. Plus, there are still many good and holy priests and it's up to us to seek them out. The chaos of the world is unfortunately reflected in the chaos in our parishes and sadly in our cathedrals, too. As we saw during the pandemic, too many Bishops were not leaders at all. They were motivated by fear: fear of being sued, fear of being removed, fear of being disliked. They showed by their actions, intentional or unintentional, that the sacraments don't actually matter. Because of this countless people died alone, without access to the sacraments, and it's a tragedy we must never forget.

As Catholics, we can look to so many examples of heroic shepherds who gave their lives for their people, and ultimately, the church. We cannot buy into the lie that the things we experienced during COVID were appropriate. Over the centuries there have been great wars, great famines, and yes, even great diseases, all that came with a level of lethality and danger. But in each of those examples, church leaders leaned into their vocations, and ensured that their people received the sacraments. Great saints like St. Damien of Molokai, who knew the dangers of his ministry, stayed for 11 years as a spiritual leader to the leper colonies of Hawaii. His heroism is looked at today as something set apart and unique, when ideally, it should not be unique at all. For as a father loves his child, so a shepherd should love his spiritual children, too.

That goes even more so for our bishops. These men who are present day apostles, our bishops once had adoring crowds of people kissing their rings and taking in their every word, but now relegate themselves to a position of inconsequential existence. Now, when a bishop of a diocese or the Bishops Conference as a whole puts out an important document on this matter, nobody even takes a moment to read it, let alone follow it. No. Today, our shepherds are far more concerned with keeping the doors open to the Chancery than they are saying that difficult stuff out loud. It seems that the only time you hear from your bishops is when it’s time for the annual appeal. Whereas we need our bishops to be vocal about the teachings of the Church, setting aside their own personal comfort and embracing their cross. Our bishops are not politicians, but shepherds. So instead of fitting in the world by going along to get along, they too need to stay in their lane and lead.

I say all of this not from a place of anger as we get the leaders we deserve. But this does make me reflect on staying in my lane and focusing on my own vocation, and how I can be a better father and husband and live in the world, but not be of it. Focusing on my vocation while praying and fasting for these men will do more for the church than me complaining about our leaders. Because there seems to be so much confusion coming from our leaders. There needs to be concrete examples for people to look to, and places like Benedictine, a little Kansas college built high on a bluff above the Missouri River, are showing the world how an ordered Christ-centered existence is the recipe for success. You need to look no further than the examples all around this campus, where over the past 20 years enrollment has doubled, and construction and revitalization are a constant part of life and people, the students, the faculty and staff are thriving. This didn’t happen by chance. In a deliberate movement to embrace traditional Catholic values, Benedictine has gone from just another liberal arts school with nothing to set it apart to a thriving beacon of light and a reminder to us all that when you embrace tradition, success, worldly and spiritual will follow. I am certain the reporters at the AP could not have imagined that their attempt to rebuke and embarrass places and people like those here at Benedictine wouldn’t be met with anger, but instead with excitement and pride. Not the deadly sin sort of pride that has an entire month dedicated to it. But the true God-centered pride that is cooperating with the Holy Ghost to glorify Him.

Reading that article now shared all over the world, we see that in the complete surrender of self and a turning towards Christ, you will find happiness. Right here in a little town in Kansas, we find many inspiring lay people using their talents. President Minnis, Dr. Swofford and Dr. Zimmer are a few great examples right here on this very campus that will keep the light of Christ burning bright for generations to come. Being locked in with your vocation and staying in your lane is going to be the surest way for you to find true happiness and peace in this life. It is essential that we focus on our own state in life, whether that be as a layperson or priests, or religious.

Ladies and gentlemen of the class of 2024, you are sitting at the edge of the rest of your lives. Each of you has the potential to leave a legacy that transcends yourselves and this era of human existence. In the small ways by living out your vocation, you will ensure that God’s Church continues and the world is enlightened by your example. For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment. You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives. I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you, how many of you are sitting here now about to cross the stage, and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you’re going to get in your career. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world. But I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabelle would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

I’m on this stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation. I’m beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me. But it cannot be overstated, that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife and embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker. She’s a primary educator to our children. She’s the one who ensures I never let football or my business become a distraction from that of a husband and father. She is the person that knows me best at my core. And it is through our marriage that Lord willing, we will both attain salvation. I say all of this to you because I’ve seen it firsthand how much happier someone can be when they disregard the outside noise and move closer and closer to God’s will in their life. Isabelle’s dream of having a career might not have come true. But if you ask her today, if she has any regrets on her decision, she would laugh out loud without hesitation and say, “heck no.”

As a man who gets a lot of praise and has been given a platform to speak to audiences like this one today, I pray that I always use my voice for God and not for myself. Everything I am saying to you is not from a place of wisdom, but rather a place of experience. I am hopeful that these words will be seen as those from a man not much older than you who feels it is imperative that this class, this generation, and this time in our society must stop pretending that the things we see around us are normal. Heterodox ideas abound, even within Catholic circles. Let’s be honest, there is nothing good about playing God with having children, whether that be your ideal number or the perfect time to conceive. No matter how you spin it, there is nothing natural about Catholic birth control. It is only in the past few years that I have grown encouraged to speak more boldly and directly, because as I mentioned earlier, I have leaned into my vocation as a husband and father and as a man.

To the gentleman here today, part of what plagues our society is this lie that has been told to you that men are not necessary in the home or in our communities. As men, we set the tone of the culture. And when that is absent disorder, dysfunction and chaos set in this absence of men in the home is what plays a large role in the violence we see all around the nation. Other countries do not have nearly the same absentee father rates as we find here in the US. And a correlation can be made in their drastically lower violence rates as well. Be unapologetic in your masculinity. Fight against the cultural emasculation of men. Do hard things. Never settle for what is easy. You might have a talent that you don’t necessarily enjoy. But if it glorifies God, maybe you should lean into that over something that you might think suits you better. I speak from experience as an introvert who now finds myself as an amateur public speaker, and an entrepreneur, something I never thought I’d be when I received my industrial engineering degree.

The road ahead is bright, things are changing, society is shifting, and people young and old are embracing tradition. Not only has it been my vocation that has helped me and those closest to me, but not surprising to many of you should be my outspoken embrace of the traditional Latin Mass. I’ve been very vocal in my love and devotion to the TLM and its necessity for our lives. But what I think gets misunderstood is that people who attend the TLM do so out of pride or preference. I can speak to my own experience. But for most people I have come across within these communities. This simply is not true. I do not attend the TLM because I think I’m better than others, or for the smells and bells, or even for the love of Latin. I attend TLM because I believe just as the God of the Old Testament was pretty particular and how he wanted to be worshiped, the same holds true for us today. It is through the TLM that I encountered order and began to pursue it in my own life. Aside from the TLM itself, too many of our sacred traditions have been relegated to things of the past. When in my parish, things such as Ember Days — days when we fast and pray for vocations and for our priests — are still adhered to. The TLM is so essential that I would challenge each of you to pick a place to move where it is readily available. A lot of people have complaints about the parish or the community, but we should not sacrifice the mass for community. I prioritize the TLM even if the parish isn’t beautiful, the priest isn’t great, or the community isn’t amazing. I still go to the TLM because I believe the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is more important than anything else. I say this knowing full well that when each of you rekindle your knowledge and adherence to many of the church’s greatest traditions, you will see how much more colorful and alive your life can and should be. As you move on from this place and enter into the world, know that you will face many challenges.

Sadly, I’m sure many of you know of the countless stories of good and active members of this community who after graduation and moving away from the Benedictine Bubble have ended up moving in with their boyfriend or girlfriend prior to marriage. Some even leave the church and abandon God. It is always heartbreaking to hear these stories, and there’s a desire to know what happened and what went wrong. What you must remember is that life is about doing the small things well. So setting yourself up for success and surrounding yourself with people who continually push you to be the best version of you. I say this all the time, that iron sharpens iron. It’s a great reminder that those closest to us should be making us better. If you’re dating someone who doesn’t even share your faith, how do you expect that person to help you become a saint? If your friend group is filled with people who only think about what you’re doing next weekend, and are not willing to have those difficult conversations, how can they help sharpen you? As you prepare to enter into the workforce, it is extremely important that you actually think about the places you are moving to. Who is the bishop? What kind of parishes are there? Do they offer the TLM and have priests who embrace their priestly vocation? Cost of living must not be the only arbiter of your choices. For a life without God is not a life at all. And the cost of salvation is worth more than any career.

I’m excited for the future. And I pray that something I’ve said will resonate as you move on to the next chapter of your life. Never be afraid to profess the one holy, Catholic and apostolic Church. For this is the Church that Jesus Christ established, through which we receive sanctifying grace. I know that my message today had a little less fluff than is expected for these speeches. But I believe that this audience and this venue is the best place to speak openly and honestly, about who we are and where we all want to go, which is heaven. I thank God for Benedictine College, and for the example it provides to the world. I thank God for men like President Minnis who are doing their part for the Kingdom. Come to find out you can have an authentically Catholic College and a thriving football program. Make no mistake, you’re entering into mission territory in a post-God world. But you were made for this and with God by your side and a constant striving for virtue within your vocation, you too can be a saint. Christ is King to the heights.

 

I'm more interested in following up on my client's revelation this morning that they have, among their $10k in sex toys, an anal shower head. Unfortunately, I had to spend 5+ minutes hearing about it, and the trauma that my client will suffer if it is not awarded to them (leaving gender out for reasons). I've met my daily quota of hearing about people's fucked up lives.

[Biff Tannen 44925]

20 minutes ago, softlynow said:

an anal shower head

Does not compute

[Anastasis 23191]

24 minutes ago, softlynow said:

anal shower head.

[wildcat09 28388]

Odds that Butker has an anal showerhead at home?

[BigHorn'13 3340]

4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Does not compute

It's an attachment to turn your shower head to an enema for butt stuff. Regular enemas using mineral oil (instead of water) is not only more hygienic, but is also gentler and is better suited for the action to follow. 

My wife (no pics) is awesome and likes to get kinky lol

[SubliminalHorn 6331]

5 hours ago, softlynow said:

I'm more interested in

 

I'm more interested in following up on my client's revelation this morning that they have, among their $10k in sex toys, an anal shower head. Unfortunately, I had to spend 5+ minutes hearing about it, and the trauma that my client will suffer if it is not awarded to them (leaving gender out for reasons). I've met my daily quota of hearing about people's fucked up lives.

Ok no need to kink shame 

[atomheartbevo 88751]

6 hours ago, softlynow said:

I'm more interested in following up on my client's revelation this morning that they have, among their $10k in sex toys, an anal shower head. Unfortunately, I had to spend 5+ minutes hearing about it, and the trauma that my client will suffer if it is not awarded to them (leaving gender out for reasons). I've met my daily quota of hearing about people's fucked up lives.

Does attorney-client privilege mean nothing to you? This is the kind of stuff that will lead me to leaving a poor Yelp score for you.

[softlynow 1612]

24 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Does attorney-client privilege mean nothing to you? This is the kind of stuff that will lead me to leaving a poor Yelp score for you.

I did leave out the part about your off-label uses of Liquid Smoke and gold-plated HDMI cables. 

[F250 28380]

Now I am going to wonder all night about the off label possibilities of liquid smoke.

[atomheartbevo 88751]

30 minutes ago, F250 said:

Now I am going to wonder all night about the off label possibilities of liquid smoke.

https://altonbrown.com/recipes/smoky-tequila-sour/

[Rex Kramer 1185]

On 5/15/2024 at 12:28 PM, C-Man said:

Following up on my earlier comment about Clar Khunt. I’m in a “Trump is a fucking idiot” text chain with about five or six (mostly female) friends and my wife. One of our good friends responded to me posting that link that she’s heard the Chiefs have actually wanted Butker to be more vocal because Chiefs fans were getting pissed off that Kelce and Taylor Swift are so liberal.

Clark is a good guy but this absolutely tracks with what I know. 

[C-Man 26536]

[bolverk 28890]