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[Chewbacca 7,780]

Looks very cool. 35" tires with standard locking rear and optional locking front diff? Nice. Bad ass offroader right out of the box.

[Dbeasy 15,073]

Love the look of the Bronco. Engine undersized though.

[Chewbacca 7,780]

What kind of power does the 2.7 put out?

[Anton Chigurh 3,319]

310/400. Great engine. Was top spot on Ward’s a few years back.

[cknight 184]

2door looks very nice! Coincidentally, Jeep put out some videos today showing a 6.4 hemi in a wrangler.

Competition is good!

[cknight 184]

Bronco has 7 speed manual as well with a rock crawler gear

Edited July 14, 2020 by cknight

[Chewbacca 7,780]

Bronco has 7 speed manual as well with a rock crawler gear

Only with the small engine

[cknight 184]

That’s disappointing 

[Anton Chigurh 3,319]

Photo dump. I love those half doors.

[Anton Chigurh 3,319]

[utee94 15,835]

Wow, looks absolutely great, Ford definitely did not eff it up.

However, as a brand-new Jeep owner (just two months ago bought my wife a Rubicon JKU 4-door), I can say that it's definitely not a Jeep killer.  Getting in with the Jeep community, I can attest that Jeep people aren't going to switch.  

Agnostic off-roaders are going to like it a lot, though.  

[Chewbacca 7,780]

Wow, looks absolutely great, Ford definitely did not eff it up.
However, as a brand-new Jeep owner (just two months ago bought my wife a Rubicon JKU 4-door), I can say that it's definitely not a Jeep killer.  Getting in with the Jeep community, I can attest that Jeep people aren't going to switch.  
Agnostic off-roaders are going to like it a lot, though.  

Yeah, Jeepers don't like reliable vehicles.

[utee94 15,835]

Just now, Chewbacca said:

2 minutes ago, utee94 said:

Wow, looks absolutely great, Ford definitely did not eff it up.
However, as a brand-new Jeep owner (just two months ago bought my wife a Rubicon JKU 4-door), I can say that it's definitely not a Jeep killer.  Getting in with the Jeep community, I can attest that Jeep people aren't going to switch.  
Agnostic off-roaders are going to like it a lot, though.  

Yeah, Jeepers don't like reliable vehicles.

Sure.  They laugh about their vehicles' tendency toward unreliability and throw stones at the gods whilst doing so.  It's what they do. 

And I still love our new Wrangler Rubicon, it's freaking awesome.

 

 

 

[Chewbacca 7,780]

Sure.  They laugh about their vehicles' tendency toward unreliability and throw stones at the gods whilst doing so.  It's what they do. 
And I still love our new Wrangler Rubicon, it's freaking awesome.
 
 
 

I know. I used to own one.

[Anton Chigurh 3,319]

A lot of Jeep owners are not “Jeep people”, though.

Will be interesting to follow for sure.

[Brew 3,049]

Tried reserving one tonight but it kept kicking me out. I have to take my piece of crap truck in tomorrow because the rear diff is humming pretty bad, so I'll see what they have to say on ordering one while I am there.

Edited July 14, 2020 by Brew

[utee94 15,835]

2 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

A lot of Jeep owners are not “Jeep people”, though.

Will be interesting to follow for sure.

Maybe so.

But I predict it makes very little dent in Jeep sales.  Nothing else looks like a Jeep and that is a lot of the allure.

I do think Jeep is smart to offer up the V8 right about now.  That's a swap that people have been paying ridiculous amounts of money to make, aftermarket.

[tx 3 putt 77,178]

that's pure bad ass there 

[Chewbacca 7,780]

Tried reserving one tonight but it kept kicking me out. I have to take my piece of crap truck in tomorrow because the rear diff is humming pretty bad, so I'll see what they have to say on ordering one while I am there.

I might need to look into a Badlands.

[Brew 3,049]

4 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

8 minutes ago, Brew said:

Tried reserving one tonight but it kept kicking me out. I have to take my piece of crap truck in tomorrow because the rear diff is humming pretty bad, so I'll see what they have to say on ordering one while I am there.

I might need to look into a Badlands.

Thinking about a base model to use to run around at the beach. I’ve been looking at Defender 90’s and this would be a much better option at the pricing.

[Carl Spackler 3,487]

12 minutes ago, utee94 said:

I do think Jeep is smart to offer up the V8 right about now.

They put it in a concept vehicle and dropped some suggestions in the press release that they may make it an engine option in the future.  But they're not currently offering it as an option.

[utee94 15,835]

29 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

They put it in a concept vehicle and dropped some suggestions in the press release that they may make it an engine option in the future.  But they're not currently offering it as an option.

Yes, I'm aware that it's not currently an option.  They're moving to one-up the competition.  I think it's coming.

Edited July 14, 2020 by utee94

[Carl Spackler 3,487]

1 minute ago, utee94 said:

They're moving to one-up the competition.  I think it's coming.

Based on the wording of the press release, I suspect you're right.  But I wonder when it will be available.  Maybe sometime next year . . . shortly before the first production Broncos come rolling off the line.  LOL

[Chewbacca 7,780]

I'm a little disappointed Ford isn't offering the 3.5 EcoBoost in the Bronco. Hopefully later.

 

 

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

You know, this little gear mounting rail is a small detail, but something I like.  With all the gadgets and shit people bring Into their cars, here in the 21st century we are still mounting that shit with auction cups or shitty vent clamps or lighter plug mounts.  Wish car companies would band together to create universal and solid mounting system.  Then car companies can fight over who has the most accessory mounting points.  (Like I'd really like a good way to mount a tablet behind my seat for my kids)

Rant over 

[jofus 2,266]

The mount looks like a standard picatinny rail, so it should be very versatile.

[TexasEd 8,067]

4 minutes ago, jofus said:

The mount looks like a standard picatinny rail, so it should be very versatile.

More like M-loc

[CleverNickname 1,321]

Last year we did Moab area national parks. I drove my stock 2x4 gmc midsized down Long Canyon from 313 through Pucker Pass. What I learned: off-roading maybe ain't for me. Didn't take enough pictures as my hands were gripping wheel white knuckles. Maybe in a cheap mahindra knock off jeep beater or SxS. Was it exhilarating? Yes. Was I afraid of doing tens of thousands of dollars in damage? Yes. Would I do it again... maybe. And that was a "green" trail. 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

10 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

10 hours ago, utee94 said:

Wow, looks absolutely great, Ford definitely did not eff it up.
However, as a brand-new Jeep owner (just two months ago bought my wife a Rubicon JKU 4-door), I can say that it's definitely not a Jeep killer.  Getting in with the Jeep community, I can attest that Jeep people aren't going to switch.  
Agnostic off-roaders are going to like it a lot, though.  

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Yeah, Jeepers don't like reliable vehicles.

Any motor offered in this has decades to make up before they reach 4.0 straight 6 legacy.  That was a very reliable motor, it didn’t even come with cam phaser issues. 

[smuggs 9,353]

Fucking beautiful little rig. Ford knocked it out of the park. So cool that they went back to the original Bronco format.

[Pato del Muerto 52,531]

Reading some twitter replies for the lulz and it delivers. Some folks saying it looks like a jeep or an fj.  As if they’d never seen a 1st gen bronco. That’s like saying the new mustang looks like a camaro. 
others posting the fanfic renderings of a f150 based bronco saying it shoulda been that. 
 

now, can their baby diesel fit in it?

[utee94 15,835]

[CooterBrown 18,015]

Just reserved a Badlands edition.

My wife and kids were like get it ASAP.  They hate my Tacoma.

[clapclapclap 9,000]

Quote

7 G.O.A.T. Modes™ (Goes Over Any Type of Terrain)

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/suvs-crossovers/bronco/pdf/21_Bronco_lineup_HR.pdf#base|wildtrak

This really bothers me. 

Either *G.O.A.T.T. or *(Goes Over Any type of Terrain)

Edited July 14, 2020 by clapclapclap

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

19 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

Just reserved a Badlands edition.

My wife and kids were like get it ASAP.  They hate my Tacoma.

I find it interesting that you and probably thousands of other people would buy a car sight unseen and never having driven it.  

[CooterBrown 18,015]

8 minutes ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

I find it interesting that you and probably thousands of other people would buy a car sight unseen and never having driven it.  

I'm sure I'll get to test drive it well before any order is finalized. With any other car reservation (unless it's truly a custom car), you can walk away at any time.

[Chewbacca 7,780]

Just reserved a Badlands edition.
My wife and kids were like get it ASAP.  They hate my Tacoma.

In gonna wait until i can see and drive one in person, but I'm intrigued.

[tx ind 7,013]

Reservation is only 100 bucks and refundable

[Chewbacca 7,780]

28 minutes ago, tx ind said:

Reservation is only 100 bucks and refundable

I don't need to be the first guy to get one.  

[dingleberryswitzer 2,724]

2 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

I'm sure I'll get to test drive it well before any order is finalized. With any other car reservation (unless it's truly a custom car), you can walk away at any time.

Yea, I guess for a car like this the dealer doesn't care of you walk away, they will probably be able to sell it quickly.

[Carl Spackler 3,487]

The guys on Jalopnik seem to think the reservation doesn't really do you much good, but I'm thinking the risk is virtually nonexistent so why not if you're pretty sure you want one?

I'm torn over whether to get one next year or wait until at least the second model year of production.  I almost never buy a first year production -- the manufacturer is typically still working out the kinks.  But part of me is thinking that the engine choices are both proven, so any issues would likely be very minor . . . unless they are electrical or structural, but Ford has a pretty good track record in those areas.  This might be one time where I'd be willing to make an exception to the usual rule, but I'm still leaning toward waiting.  I'm also thinking that dealers are going to be wanting close to MSRP initially due to the high demand.  Waiting until '22 or so might get me past the worst of it. 

 

Edited July 14, 2020 by Carl Spackler

[Chewbacca 7,780]

41 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

The guys on Jalopnik seem to think the reservation doesn't really do you much good, but I'm thinking the risk is virtually nonexistent so why not if you're pretty sure you want one?

I'm torn over whether to get one next year or wait until at least the second model year of production.  I almost never buy a first year production -- the manufacturer is typically still working out the kinks.  But part of me is thinking that the engine choices are both proven, so any issues would likely be very minor . . . unless they are electrical or structural, but Ford has a pretty good track record in those areas.  This might be one time where I'd be willing to make an exception to the usual rule, but I'm still leaning toward waiting.  I'm also thinking that dealers are going to be wanting close to MSRP initially due to the high demand.  Waiting until '22 or so might get me past the worst of it. 

 

I'm not pretty sure I want one.  I still want to see and drive one first.  I do like what I see, though.

[Aqua Buddha 14,599]

This is a weird segment.  You'd think there would be more room for Jeep Wrangler competitors but the Toyota FJ Cruise flamed out and no one else takes a stab at it.  (Any thoughts on the FJ Cruiser's demise?)

That being said, this looks bad ass.  I've always liked the 2 door Jeeps, practicality aside, and I like the 2 door version of this.  Supposedly, Ford focused on making the roof easier to take off as Jeep is a pain in the ass.

[Anton Chigurh 3,319]

This is a weird segment.  You'd think there would be more room for Jeep Wrangler competitors but the Toyota FJ Cruise flamed out and no one else takes a stab at it.  (Any thoughts on the FJ Cruiser's demise?) That being said, this looks bad ass.  I've always liked the 2 door Jeeps, practicality aside, and I like the 2 door version of this.  Supposedly, Ford focused on making the roof easier to take off as Jeep is a pain in the ass. 

 

So, I own an FJ myself. A 2013 Trail Teams edition.  

The FJ sold well for its first few years, but the problems were:

 

1) The recession. Jeep is a much more historic brand here, and while their sales did drop quite a bit from 2008-2010, they recovered really well. Gas prices went up, and SUV buying went down. The overlanding craze specifically was not also not a thing back then.

 

2) The styling was a little polarizing (though I love it), and I think might have eventually reached somewhat of a saturation in the buyers market for them.

 

3) It was apparently expensive to produce in relation to how many were sold. It was fully made in Japan.

 

4) Not having a true 4 door model probably didn’t help. The half doors are quirky and while they do work fine, they are kind of awkward to use.

 

If it had stayed on a few more years and they updated it a little, it would probably be doing well right now, similar to the recent 4Runner resurgence. Also, they have 3 wiper blades.

 

I love mine, though. Nothing has actually ever broken on it. I am currently at 118k. I’ve only done maintenance, wear items, and replaced the suspension with better suspension.

 

Here’s an older pic. It has actual 33s on it now.

 

[Carl Spackler 3,487]

1 hour ago, Chewbacca said:

I'm not pretty sure I want one.  I still want to see and drive one first.  I do like what I see, though.

Wasn't referring to you specifically -- just talking in general. 

I don't think having (or not having) a "reservation" will end up making much of a difference. 

[Aqua Buddha 14,599]

21 minutes ago, Anton Chigurh said:

So, I own an FJ myself. A 2013 Trail Teams edition.  

The FJ sold well for its first few years, but the problems were:

 

1) The recession. Jeep is a much more historic brand here, and while their sales did drop quite a bit from 2008-2010, they recovered really well. Gas prices went up, and SUV buying went down. The overlanding craze specifically was not also not a thing back then.

 

2) The styling was a little polarizing (though I love it), and I think might have eventually reached somewhat of a saturation in the buyers market for them.

 

3) It was apparently expensive to produce in relation to how many were sold. It was fully made in Japan.

 

4) Not having a true 4 door model probably didn’t help. The half doors are quirky and while they do work fine, they are kind of awkward to use.

 

If it had stayed on a few more years and they updated it a little, it would probably be doing well right now, similar to the recent 4Runner resurgence. Also, they have 3 wiper blades.

 

I love mine, though. Nothing has actually ever broken on it. I am currently at 118k. I’ve only done maintenance, wear items, and replaced the suspension with better suspension.

 

Here’s an older pic. It has actual 33s on it now.

 

Thanks.  I remember them selling well at first but then puttered out.  I know they were made in the same plant in Japan as the 4 Runner and basically ever sale they lost by cancelling them was made up by 4 Runner sales.  They were on the same frame so that was easy.  I have a 2015 4 Runner Trail and haven't had any problems.

I just know it's a weird segment.  Not many off road SUV's but tons of unibody grocery getters.  I wanted something more off road/SUV.  

[utee94 15,835]

I really liked the look of the FJ Cruiser (Still do).  I've never owned or driven one so can't say anything more, but I think they're very cool-looking, and I've seen a couple built FJ rigs out on the trails at Hidden Falls that appeared to work really well.

 

 

[ChickenSandwich 9,843]

every single FJ I've been in has a cracked windshield.  Whats up with that?

[Dbeasy 15,073]

I'm a little disappointed Ford isn't offering the 3.5 EcoBoost in the Bronco. Hopefully later.
 
 

That’s what I was hoping for.

[Dbeasy 15,073]

So, I own an FJ myself. A 2013 Trail Teams edition.  The FJ sold well for its first few years, but the problems were:
 
1) The recession. Jeep is a much more historic brand here, and while their sales did drop quite a bit from 2008-2010, they recovered really well. Gas prices went up, and SUV buying went down. The overlanding craze specifically was not also not a thing back then.
 
2) The styling was a little polarizing (though I love it), and I think might have eventually reached somewhat of a saturation in the buyers market for them.
 
3) It was apparently expensive to produce in relation to how many were sold. It was fully made in Japan.
 
4) Not having a true 4 door model probably didn’t help. The half doors are quirky and while they do work fine, they are kind of awkward to use.
 
If it had stayed on a few more years and they updated it a little, it would probably be doing well right now, similar to the recent 4Runner resurgence. Also, they have 3 wiper blades.
 
I love mine, though. Nothing has actually ever broken on it. I am currently at 118k. I’ve only done maintenance, wear items, and replaced the suspension with better suspension.
 
Here’s an older pic. It has actual 33s on it now.
 

They also did a poor job of marketing. Just based on Ford’s marketing launch yesterday it’s an order of magnitude better than any of the marketing Toyota did.