Truck Nuts

[TankedBevo 2504]

20 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

It’s 80%king ranch / 20% at 4

I was down to both as well and really the exterior look of the AT4 plus the possibility of ~30mpg on the highway with the diesel is what made me mind up for me. The interior of the king ranch is so fuckin nice though. The AT4 feels very cheap in comparison.

[Pato del Muerto 53546]

Biggest reason I prefer ford to gm/dodge is the interior. I like Toyota interior as well. New dodges are much better but still not good enough. Haven’t really gotten a good look at a new gm yet. 

[TXLNGHRN10 341]

I don't think the new king ranch interior is all that. Friend of mine has a Sierra SLT and I though the interior was just as nice if not nicer then the Lariat / KR and way nicer then the plastic filled XLT interior that I have

[fattyflattie 4640]

2 hours ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

I don't think the new king ranch interior is all that. Friend of mine has a Sierra SLT and I though the interior was just as nice if not nicer then the Lariat / KR and way nicer then the plastic filled XLT interior that I have

I feel the same way. Think the past KR’s were nicer.  

[HOOKEM4 5177]

They dont use the same quality leather anymore. That was the only real reason to get one and now it is just another stupid badge you are buying.

[Gladeite 376]

 Just picked up the '20 F150 Platinum.  Did the leveling kit and Roll N Lock bed cover.  I really like it.  Also looked at the AT4. The 36 gallon tank and the interior was the difference for me.  I really like the looks of the AT4.  What tires came on the AT4?  Hankook Dynapo AT2 came on the F150.   I have never had them and prefer the BFG K02.  

[HOOKEM4 5177]

Do yourself a favor and shop other tires. KO2's are not the best or the most bang for your buck. They are just riding the legacy at this point. 

[Errestaurants 2570]

7 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Do yourself a favor and shop other tires. KO2's are not the best or the most bang for your buck. They are just riding the legacy at this point. 

what do you recommend?  I've ran K02's on my 3500 and they've been pretty good. 

[Errestaurants 2570]

On 12/21/2019 at 6:23 PM, TankedBevo said:

Pulled the trigger on a 2020 AT4 1500 Sierra with the turbo diesel. Got 500 miles out of my first tank in shitty Dallas traffic. Just got a 2” leveling kit to take out that horrible rake and put a bakflip tonneau cover on which are the only mods I plan on doing. This thing is a blast to drive.

beautiful truck brother. first thing I'd do the minute that thing is out of factory warranty get it deleted. Both DPF and EGR. I have a deleted 6.7 and she runs like a boss. 

[Pato del Muerto 53546]

50 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

Do yourself a favor and shop other tires. KO2's are not the best or the most bang for your buck. They are just riding the legacy at this point. 

I’m trying to get a straight answer from the internet about whether mastercraft tires are the same as cooper, or similar, or only the same manufacturer. I think I’ve found that they use the same compound. If the only difference is price and warranty, then there would be a decision to make. 

[Gil Bang 26247]

I'd never heard of Mastercraft until the GF's son bought a used F150 (don't ever buy from Jimmie Johnson Chevy in SD), and it had new Mastercrafts.  I assumed that they were cheap junk.  They didn't last long for him. 

[jofus 2269]

My at4 came with Goodyear wrangler duratracs. I’ll keep them as long as they last and then go back to Michelin LT at2’s. They’re rated for 80k miles, and I usually get 90-100k out of them.

 

[HOOKEM4 5177]

3 hours ago, Errestaurants said:

what do you recommend?  I've ran K02's on my 3500 and they've been pretty good. 

Toyo will kill the bfg's in longevity. Michelin if you want better road handling. 

We run a fleet of F250s and use a variety of tires. We used to exclusively run bfg till we noticed they changed the compound. They just dont hold up like they used to or should.

[fattyflattie 4640]

10 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

They just dont hold up like they used to or should.

I agree. They do wear more evenly and stay balanced more than anything else I’ve ever run, though. I switched back to Nitto a set or two ago, and took them back at 1k miles (a week of driving at that time) Much louder and harsher.  But I keep getting less and less miles with each set of KO2’s. Time to do something else. 

[fattyflattie 4640]

3 hours ago, Errestaurants said:

first thing I'd do the minute that thing is out of factory warranty get it deleted. Both DPF and EGR.

I agree. Don’t know if I’d turn it up much though, people wear down a lot bigger drivetrains with tunes in a hurry.  

[HOOKEM4 5177]

6 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

I agree. They do wear more evenly and stay balanced more than anything else I’ve ever run, though. I switched back to Nitto a set or two ago, and took them back at 1k miles (a week of driving at that time) Much louder and harsher.  But I keep getting less and less miles with each set of KO2’s. Time to do something else. 

What mileage do you get from the bfg's?

We were seeing 40k before we swapped when we easily would hit 60k on the old compound. 

[LebongJames 1921]

We got 38k on the last set of BFGs on the wife’s ride. My Tundra came with them as well. 10k on them so far 

[LebongJames 1921]

Put Michelin’s on the wife’s 4Runner when I replaced at 38k. 20k miles later and they still look brand new

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

54k or so on my KO2s so far and they still have probably 6-7/32nds. I don’t have a huge truck, though.

[fattyflattie 4640]

3 hours ago, HOOKEM4 said:

What mileage do you get from the bfg's?

We were seeing 40k before we swapped when we easily would hit 60k on the old compound. 

Same. Low to mid 40’s and I change them before they are dangerously bald.  I could eek 50 maybe if I ran them down to nothing (people do, not worth it to me)  But I used to get mid-50’s relatively easy and have friends that run them bald but were upper 70’s.   They’ve changed.  Still a good tire, but not exceptional and pricey for an average tire imo.  If you change vehicles every 100k or less I guess it isn’t a huge concern. 
 

eta: this is on a 2500 Dmax.  Friends experiences above are on 250 Fords.  I don’t have any info on the guys with 1/2-tons. I’d guess they wear pretty well. 

Edited December 24, 2019 by fattyflattie

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

They are still good because of their super strong sidewall, though. Lots of off-road stuff in sharp rocks in Big Bend and Utah and they still look great.

That said, I am probably trying Cooper ST Maxx next.

[TankedBevo 2504]

Goodyear wrangler duratracs came on mine. They seem pretty loud on the highway compared the the Nitto Ridge grapplers I just came from but if they really last ~80k as stated above I’ll be with these for quite some time and I think I’ll get used to it. 

[jofus 2269]

Goodyear wrangler duratracs came on mine. They seem pretty loud on the highway compared the the Nitto Ridge grapplers I just came from but if they really last ~80k as stated above I’ll be with these for quite some time and I think I’ll get used to it. 

Not sure if you’re referring to my post above, but those Goodyears are only rated for 50k miles.

The Michelin ltz lt at2’s used to be rated for 80k, but it looks like they’re down to 60k now.

[TankedBevo 2504]

55 minutes ago, jofus said:

 

Not sure if you’re referring to my post above, but those Goodyears are only rated for 50k miles.

The Michelin ltz lt at2’s used to be rated for 80k, but it looks like they’re down to 60k now.

 

Ooof. I totally misread your post. 

[HOOKEM4 5177]

We have run the toyos hard to 60k and the michelins that come on them for the same. But we need something more aggressive for the land the trucks roll through than the michelins. Our guys abuse the shit out of these trucks and will get stuck on pavement. True specimens we have working for us.

[tx 3 putt 78717]

On 12/23/2019 at 7:05 PM, Errestaurants said:

Both DPF and EGR. I have a deleted 6.7 and she runs like a boss. 

Please explain this a little more to me, thanks 

Edited December 25, 2019 by tx 3 putt

[fattyflattie 4640]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Please explain this a little more to me, thanks 

Diesel particulate filter.   An emissions item that catches particulates in your exhaust then uses fuel to heat up to very hot and burns it out to clean it. You’ll be avg about 18mpg until a regen kicks in (about once a tank normal driving) and you burn off a gallon or gallon and a half, demoing your mpg avg.  Folks have some pretty big claims on mileage gains once removed. They are about $1500 to replace and when/if mine ever goes, it’ll get a pipe in its place.  Knock on wood I have the first year they came out, and haven’t had any issues in 11 yrs/250k miles.  
 

EGR - exhaust gas recirculation.  Mostly same as in gas vehicles.  Dirties up your oil 10x faster and in general is not best for motor. People block them with a plate (or removal) then use programmer to take off the CEL.   I’m starting to have trouble with mine as of this month.  You can remove and clean the crap out of them, but I might just delete it and add EFI live. My truck is bone stock at moment, don’t really want to tamper with it. But not about spending a ton of money on emissions crap either. 
 

very common for diesel owners to take emissions crap off as they generally make them less effecient, reliable, and we don’t have to go thru emissions for a sticker.  

[Brew 3049]

On 12/24/2019 at 9:27 AM, Anton Chigurh said:

They are still good because of their super strong sidewall, though. Lots of off-road stuff in sharp rocks in Big Bend and Utah and they still look great.

That said, I am probably trying Cooper ST Maxx next.

I’ve run Cooper’s my last few sets and have been extremely happy with them. They wear about the same rate as the others but for a lot less and I have not had any cupping issues like I did with the BFG’s. The guy that owns the tire shop I use told me I should give them a try several sets back and I haven’t looked back.

[Errestaurants 2570]

10 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Please explain this a little more to me, thanks 

Pretty much what Fattyflattie described. On the newer diesels most of the issues are related to all the new emission crap they put on them. Every issue I've had on my '14  3500 was emission related. At times not running it hard enough so it went into regen to often which can give your turbo problems. With the DPF delete there is no more DEF required. Not that DEF is expensive but its just another thing you have to buy.  Lots of info out there about deleting---pros and cons. 

I have no clue about these diesels on half ton trucks but I know the new diesels on 3/4 and 1 ton trucks are meant to be ran hard. 

[Lat22 4086]

I feel the same way. Think the past KR’s were nicer.  

The Castano leather in the older models was much nicer but waaaaay harder to take care of.

[fattyflattie 4640]

1 minute ago, Lat22 said:

The Castano leather in the older models was much nicer but waaaaay harder to take care of.

I agree. I’m the type to take care is it so it never bothered me.  Hell I even liked the look of the ones that were rode hard.  

[tx 3 putt 78717]

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Hell I even liked the look of the ones that were rode hard.  

that's my new pick up line, thanks 

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2779]

Buddy got a ‘20 Badlander this week.
Nice ride. I’m guessing this is Chevy’s answer to the Raptor?

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2779]

Double

 

[Pato del Muerto 53546]

Never heard of it. Looks to not be a gm offering, but an aftermarket package by a place called Tuscany.  

[tx 3 putt 78717]

Just sent 5 emails on 5 trucks. Maybe I’ll have a new truck before the end of the year or maybe not 

[utee94 16091]

Well Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you!

[TXLNGHRN10 341]

For you fellow f150 owners, how does yours ride?  My FX4 is stiff as hell. Driving on rough roads beats the hell out of me, i.e. down town or SW parkway.

Has anyone done a shock upgrade? 

[utee94 16091]

1 hour ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

For you fellow f150 owners, how does yours ride?  My FX4 is stiff as hell. Driving on rough roads beats the hell out of me, i.e. down town or SW parkway.

Has anyone done a shock upgrade? 

My FX4 ride is great, but it's the Platinum version so not sure if that changes anything?

[Gladeite 376]

Just got the 20 Platinum.  Leveled and rides on Hankooks.  The ride is great.  Been ferrying around relatives this past week and they all comment on the nice ride, roominess and quality of interior.  Could be they are just being nice because they have been freeloading off of me this past week.  Drank all my beer,  wine and never once found their wallet to pay for a meal.

[utee94 16091]

5 hours ago, Gladeite said:

Just got the 20 Platinum.  Leveled and rides on Hankooks.  The ride is great.  Been ferrying around relatives this past week and they all comment on the nice ride, roominess and quality of interior.  Could be they are just being nice because they have been freeloading off of me this past week.  Drank all my beer,  wine and never once found their wallet to pay for a meal.

Ha!  You gotta love relatives.

Got any pictures?  Which Hankooks?  I've been wanting to go to a more aggressive looking tire but I love the way mine rides currently, and don't want to trade that off.  I'm running Goodyear Eagle LS-2 right now because that's what the dealer put on it before I bought it.

Edited December 27, 2019 by utee94

[tx 3 putt 78717]

many emails / calls / text messages = zero offers

maybe someone will give in tomorrow 

[Handcruser 2815]

What are you trying to buy?


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[tx 3 putt 78717]

F150 Black King Ranch - V8

Planet Ford Spring just emailed with a price that's within 10%. I'll email back and see how low they can go

Autonation Katy didn't have the truck I emailed about but he quoted 3 trucks, lower trim level but very interesting pricing. I've had 3 XLT's, very comfortable truck

[Pato del Muerto 53546]

Fun little issue today with the f150. Got in and the touchscreen is dead, not even a solid glow. Which meant no radio and no auto climate control and no blue tooth. 
get home and do some YouTubing, find several videos discussing various infotainment interface issues from wont connect to phone to some buttons don’t work. All of them were resolved with a sync reboot accomplished by pulling the appropriate fuse for a few seconds and reinstalling, so I tried that and it worked. Yay, no embarrassing trip to the dealer to be told about some $500 fix as the techs and csas laugh behind my back. 

but I’ll be damned if they didn’t put the fuses in a shit location to get to, behind the passenger door hinges. Had the seat rail digging into my back as I struggled to get eyes on the box to pull the correct fuse. 

[jofus 2269]

many emails / calls / text messages = zero offers

maybe someone will give in tomorrow 

 

 

I got this voicemail the other day from Sam Pack in Lewisville:

 

 

“Hey this is Ryan at Sam Pack Five-star Fors of Lewisville. hey I wanted to get a hold of you today to let you know that we just got out of the meeting with our general sales manager William Mills and just let us know that we are 32 more sales away from hitting our objectives for December and he said at this point he's making every single deal we just got some extra incentive money from Ford so this is the time goodbye he said he's putting all the money in every deal and he is not missing objective so if you are interested please give us a call cause this is a deal you don't want to mess you can either call or text us at 972-525-5598 we can go over all the details I hope to hear from you soon thanks bye…”

[tx 3 putt 78717]

I replied to Planet Ford Spring, gave them the target. 

[TexasEd 8266]

I'm on my second set of Geolandar AT tires.  They have a much better grip than Michelin's harder compound and still have an 80,000 mile rating.  I get the load range E and they add a lot of stability with the stiffer sidewalls.

 

I highly recommend them.

[Gladeite 376]

14 hours ago, utee94 said:

Ha!  You gotta love relatives.

Got any pictures?  Which Hankooks?  I've been wanting to go to a more aggressive looking tire but I love the way mine rides currently, and don't want to trade that off.  I'm running Goodyear Eagle LS-2 right now because that's what the dealer put on it before I bought it.

It is the new white color Star White which has a metallic sheen to it.  The leveling kit makes it look great.  They ride on Hankook Dynapro AT2.  The tires are very quiet on the road, track well and seem to hold the road.   I have been trying to break them loose in a big parking lot in the evenings when the cars are not there.  Doing power slides, increasing radius turns at speed, etc...  The tread is semi aggressive.  I want to like the tire, but have not driven in the snow/ice, black clay, crappy limestone ranch roads, etc....

The first thing I usually do with a new truck is swap the tires out for BFG KO2s. I really like that tire and have had great luck offroad and in Colorado.  

Sorry about the pics.  I am pretty good at looking at them, not so good at posting them.

For reference in looking for a new truck, I got $11 and change off sticker for the 20.  I had to buy $1500 worth of add ons on top of that.  Bed liner, wheel liner, door/handle protector and rubber mats.  

[Sandman 3435]

16 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

many emails / calls / text messages = zero offers

maybe someone will give in tomorrow 

Every time I play the email/phone game, I'm told that they won't talk money unless I come down there in person. Even when I told them I want to buy a truck TODAY, they won't give me an out the door price unless it's face to face.