Truck Nuts

[tx 3 putt 76345]

2 hours ago, utee94 said:

Loved that truck.  Of course, at the time, my preference still ran more toward something like this:

The Fall Guy and Invasion USA Chuck Norris agree !

[texas08 1599]

I’m finally getting my spray in bed liner and bakflip cover. So excited 
I’m getting anxious about upgrading the suspension, slap some 33’s in there. 

What suspension shocks will you end up going with?

Saw this today and it looked pretty sweet (stance/height).

[Gil Bang 25897]

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

The Fall Guy and Invasion USA Chuck Norris agree !

Rocky Rockford

[tx 3 putt 76345]

1 hour ago, texas08 said:

What suspension shocks will you end up going with?

I’ll most likely go Roush Fox or BDS. 

[tx 3 putt 76345]

11 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

I’ll most likely go Roush Fox or BDS. 

I’m starting to be really torn on suspension upgrade v spacer.

im basically going for Raptor type look. 

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Death to spacers.

[tx 3 putt 76345]

Just now, Anton Chigurh said:

Death to spacers.

I was about to text you 

[utee94 15745]

I was thinking about lifting the front of mine, but the rake works well for towing, which is really why I bought the truck.  So I'm a little torn.

 

(But willing to be swayed by the fine folks on this Forum  )

 

[texhorn 351]

2020 SuperDuty facelift looks legit. Still can't stomach $60-70k for a truck. 

[tx 3 putt 76345]

46 minutes ago, texhorn said:

2020 SuperDuty facelift looks legit. Still can't stomach $60-70k for a truck. 

 

i never thought i'd drop $50k for a truck 

i remember several years back being somewhere and they had new trucks out on display. i told my buddy 'man if i had fuck you money, id drop $54k on a denali truck !'

I'm glad I wised up and a got a King Ranch instead 

Edited January 16, 2020 by tx 3 putt

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

46 minutes ago, texhorn said:

2020 SuperDuty facelift looks legit. Still can't stomach $60-70k for a truck. 

That tremor package sounds nice. 

[tx 3 putt 76345]

17 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That tremor package sounds nice. 

 

[tx 3 putt 76345]

also a side shoot, i can see myself getting a mat black or carbon fiber wrap at about 50k miles or so. damn that looks very interesting 

[fattyflattie 4636]

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

I'm glad I wised up and a got a King Ranch instead 

How's that?  Our Denali has been a great truck.

2 hours ago, texhorn said:

2020 SuperDuty facelift looks legit. Still can't stomach $60-70k for a truck. 

Easy 70k for well equipped.  I was pricing 250's last week and $74.5 was best i was seeing on a KR on a '20.  Down from 83k sticker.  I'd prefer a 350 single wheel but not going to pay the premium for it.  5 years ago when a loaded one was 55k, yeah, but not a chance now.  My buddy ordered his '17 KR and got out for 70, back when they first came out.  I thought that was crazy but looks like they took another bump since then.

[fattyflattie 4636]

Overall a cool video, pretty good tire talk at 12:30.   Michelin's...damn.

 

[texas08 1599]

I’m starting to be really torn on suspension upgrade v spacer.

im basically going for Raptor type look. 

 

 

You don’t wanna go down the raptor look road....

 

 

[texas08 1599]

[tx 3 putt 76345]

Raptor light. Researching Fox 2.0 v Fox 2.5 

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Damn, nice. Are those Kings under there?

[texas08 1599]

Yup, Kings.

Fiberwerx fenders and bed sides.

[tx 3 putt 76345]

I’m not man enough for that truck 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 That looks great 
 

but a lighter version would suit me 

[dirtonia 269]

Ridgeline... gtfo

[fattyflattie 4636]

@texas08  What is the thought process behind building a raptor in lieu of grabbing a factory one?  Even better components, cheaper, other?    I've never really looked into the Raptors in detail as they wouldn't work great for what I do, but just curious. 

Truck looks great btw. 

[tx 3 putt 76345]

I wanted the coyote 5.0 before it was phased out, that’s why I went king ranch 

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

I wanted the coyote 5.0 before it was phased out, that’s why I went king ranch 

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Double post.

[texas08 1599]

[mention=618]texas08[/mention]  What is the thought process behind building a raptor in lieu of grabbing a factory one?  Even better components, cheaper, other?    I've never really looked into the Raptors in detail as they wouldn't work great for what I do, but just curious. 
Truck looks great btw. 

Disclaimer. Those are not my trucks...but I do know people who have very similar modded trucks and I know that Baja world very well.

It honestly comes down to time and money vs no time and not as much money.

If you like that off road look, but you don’t have time...and you want a quick “nothing too expensive”...but still legit as hell truck, you get the Raptor and you’re done.

If you have time and a bit more money to throw on a toy, you get a 5.0 and build your own Raptor style truck.

The sound, just the sound. 5.0 vs not 5.0. If you look at real Trophy Trucks (Baja professional trucks)...how do they sound? Like fucking beasts. Those trucks can also reach 1mil or so to build. Race, break, build again...not as crazy $ as formula 1 or even nascar, but it’s still very very costly.

The aftermarket parts are much better than Ford factory parts. Who owns these legit aftermarket shops? The guys who race Baja or supply parts for those 1 million dollar trucks. Other than the Fox shocks on the Raptor, practically everything else is Ford factory on a Raptor. If you pick and choose your parts to “try” and emulate a trophy truck (but with comforts), you build your own starting with a 5.0...because of the sound that it can create (and you want to emulate a trophy truck), you start there.

Now, starting with a 6.2 Gen 1 Raptor, and then modding...well you’re a hardcore MFer and you know what you’re doing.

Folks also mod Gen 2 Raptors of course, but again, it’s that sound vs no sound and a few other things here and there.

[fattyflattie 4636]

Yeah, as I stated, not my type of deal.  But if it was, it’d be the ones with the 6.2, not the ecoboost.  

[KuЯdt 248]

I’m starting to be really torn on suspension upgrade v spacer.
im basically going for Raptor type look. 

If you don't want to spend Fox money, why not look at Bilstein 5100's. Fronts can be adjusted for varying degrees of lift, they're suitable for mild/casual offroading, and are relatively inexpensive.
Then you can avoid spacers, which likely will leave you with a shitty riding truck. Don't know if you can achieve a Raptor look going that route though.

[tx 3 putt 76345]

all About the gram and bro credit

 

those fox 2.5’s are dreamy 

[tx 3 putt 76345]

researching the following :

Fox 0-2" Front Coil-Over | Fox 2.5 Factory Series Reservoir

Fox 2.5" 04-08 4wd and 09-On 2wd/4wd Ford F-150 Rear, 2.5 Series, P/B, 11.0 in , 0-1.5 in Lift

BDS Upper Control w/ Sealed Ball Joint 2004+ Ford F-150 2wd/4wd

Amp Research Power Steps plug-n-play 2015-17 Ford F150

 

S&B - Cold Air Intake For 2018 Ford F150 5.0L

Magnaflow - 15-16 F150 V8 5.0L Extended/Crew Cab SS Street, Series Exhaust System Single Side Exit

[TwiceHorn 31267]

Dumb question, but doesn't all that nuke your warranty?

[tx 3 putt 76345]

37 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Dumb question, but doesn't all that nuke your warranty?

I’m still researching

Ford dealership can do all the work, 100%  warranty 

Edited January 21, 2020 by tx 3 putt

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

[Gil Bang 25897]

On 1/21/2020 at 5:58 AM, TwiceHorn said:

Dumb question, but doesn't all that nuke your warranty?

I had a neighbor that bought a new Dodge truck.  The first thing he did was install (himself) a lift kit. 

Then, he started having issues with the truck.  So, he'd take a day off work, remove the lift kit, then take the truck into the dealership for warranty work, then, once the work was completed, he'd take another day off and reinstall the lift kit (and then take the truck in for alignment).  I saw this process repeated a half-dozen times.  

[Newdoc 3433]

Most warranties are only void on aftermarket parts if the part caused the problem. So if someone takes off suspension parts to get their a/c fixed under warranty then that’s ignorant.

[Lat22 3994]

I no longer tinker with the motor until the warranty is expired.  All of these programmers and chip manufacturers will tell you "Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act" yada yada yada but it's not worth the trouble to me. 

[4th and 5 4914]

The magnetic shock (GM's magnetic ride control a/k/a magneride) on one rear wheel on my Denali went out. Makes for a rough ride because it throws the whole system out of whack.

Apparently they have to be replaced in pairs, for about $1800. Or replace them all with regular shocks and buy a kit to stop the vehicle from throwing a code. Ouch.

[lonestar3 274]

Dumb question amnesty:

If I replace just the muffler with an aftermarket, say Borla, is that going to affect my performance/mpg at all, or do I need to do the entire exhaust system to see any sort of difference?

[Gil Bang 25897]

dumb answer amnesty: If a different exhaust system will make your truck "better", wouldn't it come from the factory with that exhaust?  

Everytime I hear about a simple mod that promises better performance and mileage, I'm skeptical. 

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

3 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

dumb answer amnesty: If a different exhaust system will make your truck "better", wouldn't it come from the factory with that exhaust?  

Everytime I hear about a simple mod that promises better performance and mileage, I'm skeptical. 

Money. Nobody builds the best machine they are capable of, would cost too much. That’s what aftermarket is for. Improve where you want with what you can afford. 

Edited January 30, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[Gil Bang 25897]

So, how much more would it cost a manufacturer to install the "improved" exhaust?  I'm guessing a few bucks if any.

[fattyflattie 4636]

2 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

So, how much more would it cost a manufacturer to install the "improved" exhaust?  I'm guessing a few bucks if any.

Because most people don’t want loud, throaty exhausts. Truck enthusiasts do, and will put up with the side effects like cab drone and additional costs. 

It wouldn’t cost much to make it louder.  To make it more quality, like all stainless, mandrel bent, etc. it is quite a bit more expensive than what is currently stock on most. 

[fattyflattie 4636]

4 hours ago, 4th and 5 said:

The magnetic shock (GM's magnetic ride control a/k/a magneride) on one rear wheel on my Denali went out. Makes for a rough ride because it throws the whole system out of whack.

Apparently they have to be replaced in pairs, for about $1800. Or replace them all with regular shocks and buy a kit to stop the vehicle from throwing a code. Ouch.

Almost everyone I know rides on high end regular shocks with the little cheaters plugged in to turn off the light.  No one has complained really.  The cheaters are extremely cheap iirc. 

[TwiceHorn 31267]

I would think magneride is major overkill on a truck, although it is supposedly fantastic on cars.  I suspect it's also failure-prone on a truck.

 

And, aside from the sound, the best exhaust is going to be bent-tube headers and dual exhaust with twin catalytics (if in warranty or expected to pass an emissions inspection) and dual mufflers.  As opposed to the stock cast manifolds, single exhaust with one catalytic and one muffler, with two outlets.  The cost difference there is at least $1000.

And once you start fucking with the exhaust, you really need to match up the intake, which could be accomplished with just a tune, but optimally requires porting the cylinder heads.

So, nah, no OEM is doing that, unless it's a Corvette or something similarly hi-po and high-cost.

Edited January 30, 2020 by TwiceHorn

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

I would think magneride is major overkill on a truck, although it is supposedly fantastic on cars.  I suspect it's also failure-prone on a truck.

Au contraire, a truck suspension works harder when it is off-road.

Car dampers only have to really worry about smaller changes in road smoothness.

Gimme something like this that can have three dampening curves based on wheel travel speed and distance.

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

Golly gee why don’t manufacturers just put those on all their trucks if they are better than what’s on there now?

Edited January 30, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[Anton Chigurh 3318]

Golly gee why don’t manufacturers just punt those on all their trucks if they are better than what’s on there now?

[Brew 3045]

On 1/15/2020 at 8:54 AM, tx 3 putt said:

I’m starting to be really torn on suspension upgrade v spacer.

im basically going for Raptor type look. 

I’m not sure what there is to be torn about, are you looking for the cheapest option possible (spacers) or a true lift/leveling kit (suspension). I did spacers once and have gone with Fox 2.0’s since. The spacers made the front end feel way too loose to me, but I know people who put them on every truck they buy.

i like the ride of the 2.0’s and have never had any complaints in day to day driving. The 2.5’s seem like complete overkill unless you are off road a bunch. My only complaint on the 2.0’s is I do think they reduce towing/loaded ride quality. It may be more of a tire issue, but you definitely feel road issues more than with the stock setup. I may try a different rear shock at some point just too see the difference. I looked at Icon’s as well and could not justify the extra cost on them.

[tx 3 putt 76345]

I agree, 2.0 v 2.5's is pure overkill, but my whole truck is overkill 

 

I ordered the weathertech backseat under storage today. thinking hard about escort 360max. dps / deputies were out hard today between downton hou and port arthur