Kansas Republicans mad/sensistive over flag art at KU

[Pancho 44456]

 

 

 

[yaqdum 182]

is flag art the unabbreviated version of fart?

[JBJ 3648]

Don't have any problems with this art.  I could see the problem people would have with flying it in place of the actual flag, but in a gallery or any other display? No way.

The black-and-white sock is awesome.

Edited July 18, 2018 by JBJ

[atomheartbevo 89409]

None of these fuckers seem to have a problem with this flag desecration.

Edited July 18, 2018 by atomheartbevo

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40 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

None of these fuckers seem to have a problem with this flag desecration.

I was gonna say that exact same thing. Weird how that works aint it.

[Ghost of LL 15477]

42 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

None of these fuckers seem to have a problem with this flag desecration.

Well, yeah.  But in fairness--that's symbolic speech with which they agree.  So not really the same thing at all.

[David Dennison 18652]

Snowflakes gettin' all triggered.

[JBJ 3648]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

Well, yeah.  But in fairness--that's symbolic speech with which they agree.  So not really the same thing at all.

It could also be that one would be widely considered a desecration and the other not.

Edited July 18, 2018 by JBJ

[Huckleberry 32694]

9 minutes ago, JBJ said:

It could also be that one would be widely considered a desecration and the other not.

You just repeated his statement using different words.

Symbolic speech with which they disagree = desecration

Symbolic speech with which they agree = righteous adaptation

Edited July 18, 2018 by Huckleberry

[JBJ 3648]

8 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You just repeated his statement using different words.

Marring the face of the flag = desecration

Silloutetted behind a neutral symbol  = righteous adaptation

Agreement has nothing to do with it.

Edited July 18, 2018 by JBJ

[RDCanecutter 26249]

I hate seeing doofuses wear the flag.

Most of the time.

[Gil Bang 25897]

cool starry bra?

[Whitman 694]

She should take that off immediately.

[Nivek 16853]

Agreement has nothing to do with it.

Another thin skinned fake patriot.


A person could argue that the first flag celebrates the vibrancy of America shining through the black spot (/mildly racist) which attempts to distract from this countries virtues.

The other flag shows a grayed out flag, which stands in the background as the police openly exert their dominance and disrespect, even going as far as re-coloring the flag in the interest of their police state agenda.

[Huckleberry 32694]

Agreement has nothing to do with it.

Yeah, you just proved my point. Much appreciated.

You agree with one and not the other so one is marring it and one isn't. Here's a hint: both of them mar the flag equally. Our flag isn't black in case you haven't noticed.

[GSU&UT 1798]

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

None of these fuckers seem to have a problem with this flag desecration.

Literally every single one of the people who have this decal on their truck/jeep will decry flag burning, kneeling during the anthem, etc while not realizing how much they're violating the flag code.

[JBJ 3648]

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Edited July 18, 2018 by JBJ
Because I'm pretty sure Huck is trolling.

[Viper 12025]

and doing it for public safety? now comes the part where we laugh?

 

things like this are why I think FIRE is one of the best organizations around for campus free speech. The ACLU are good sometimes too, but they've indicated they will be de-prioritizing free speech if it's controversial.

[Huckleberry 32694]

13 hours ago, JBJ said:

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I'm not trolling, not even close. Try to come up with a better excuse for not having a decent retort.

The flag of the United States shall be thirteen horizontal stripes, alternate red and white; and the union of the flag shall be fifty stars, white in a blue field.

Blue line flags are a desecration of the United States flag. The only reason it doesn't bother you is because you agree with the message. The only reason the one in Kansas bothers you is you disagree with the message. Your complete lack of self-awareness is disappointing even if it's not surprising.

[JBJ 3648]

2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

I'm not trolling, not even close. Try to come up with a better excuse for not having a decent retort.

Blue line flags are a desecration of the United States flag. The only reason it doesn't bother you is because you agree with the message. The only reason the one in Kansas bothers you is you disagree with the message. Your complete lack of self-awareness is disappointing even if it's not surprising.

You are quite mistaken on which I even agree with and don't.  I agree with the message of the Kansas one.  To me, it represents the polarization of America as a cause for America's unravelling.  The smudges are all the ancillary features that we think will destroy America (war, poverty, racism, corruption, foreign influence, economy), but America is clearly coming undone from the inside out - one thread at a a time.  And the striped sock is the polarization and cowardice of modern society, which is becoming the dominating symbol over the unity that the flag represents. It think this is true for politics, media, social interaction, and college football message boards.

That you are willing to posit a claim so readily false (which displays honor and which displays disrespect the flag) in order to make a stupid argument, on a trifling topic, to win partisan points for a side you thoroughly disavow; is evidence for the artists message.

I didn't respond because I don't need to.  Any argument was over the moment you made that asinine interpretation of desecration. It's unsupportable: any poster here can readily point to a number of logos bearing an adaptation of flag in an honorable manner with a messaging that they don't agree with.  So it's more convenient for me to just sit back and let you shred your credibility.

Good luck with that whole claiming to be a centrist on one thread, while exposing yourself as an asshat elsewhere.  And you talk about self-awareness.

Edited July 19, 2018 by JBJ

[Huckleberry 32694]

I have never once claimed to be a centrist. You are flailing badly here.

I made no interpretations of desecration, you are the one who used that word to describe one of the displays. It was patently obvious which you were referring to, but if you want to try and back your way out of it now that's fine.

[Mole 4320]

16 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Yeah, you just proved my point. Much appreciated.

You agree with one and not the other so one is marring it and one isn't. Here's a hint: both of them mar the flag equally. Our flag isn't black in case you haven't noticed.

 

I don't have a problem with either flag, but pedants recognize pedants. Don't you even AR 670-1?

[Huckleberry 32694]

16 minutes ago, Mole said:

I don't have a problem with either flag, but pedants recognize pedants. Don't you even AR 670-1?

A pedant would know that the US Flag Code specifically states that much of it is for civilian use and that departments of the executive may differ. 😉 

[Dr. Teeth 5830]

You can't really debate Kansas politics right now. If the state collapsed upon itself and ceased to exist, the ashy remnants of the dead politicians would blame it on homosexuals and liberals.

[JBJ 3648]

34 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

I made no interpretations of desecration, you are the one who used that word to describe one of the displays. It was patently obvious which you were referring to, but if you want to try and back your way out of it now that's fine.

 

17 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Symbolic speech with which they disagree = desecration

 

1 hour ago, JBJ said:

...any  poster here can readily point to a number of logos  bearing an adaptation of flag in an honorable  manner with a messaging that they don't agree with...

...it's more convenient for me to just sit back and let you shred your credibility.

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[achooloco 1065]

2 hours ago, JBJ said:

You are quite mistaken on which I even agree with and don't.  I agree with the message of the Kansas one.  To me, it represents the polarization of America as a cause for America's unravelling.  The smudges are all the ancillary features that we think will destroy America (war, poverty, racism, corruption, foreign influence, economy), but America is clearly coming undone from the inside out - one thread at a a time.  And the striped sock is the polarization and cowardice of modern society, which is becoming the dominating symbol over the unity that the flag represents. It think this is true for politics, media, social interaction, and college football message boards.

That you are willing to posit a claim so readily false (which displays honor and which displays disrespect the flag) in order to make a stupid argument, on a trifling topic, to win partisan points for a side you thoroughly disavow; is evidence for the artists message.

I didn't respond because I don't need to.  Any argument was over the moment you made that asinine interpretation of desecration. It's unsupportable: any poster here can readily point to a number of logos bearing an adaptation of flag in an honorable manner with a messaging that they don't agree with.  So it's more convenient for me to just sit back and let you shred your credibility.

Good luck with that whole claiming to be a centrist on one thread, while exposing yourself as an asshat elsewhere.  And you talk about self-awareness.

do you think the thin blue line is ever associated with the wall of silence? 

[JBJ 3648]

1 hour ago, achooloco said:

do you think the thin blue line is ever associated with the wall of silence? 

Of course. 

Even without the aesthetics of the actual blue line, the concepts can be intermingled.

If one thinks a thin blue line is what separates society from chaos, then one could rationalize the wall of silence out of a sense of greater good.

[achooloco 1065]

22 hours ago, JBJ said:

Of course. 

Even without the aesthetics of the actual blue line, the concepts can be intermingled.

If one thinks a thin blue line is what separates society from chaos, then one could rationalize the wall of silence out of a sense of greater good.

uh no. considering the amount of people that police kill (some legit some not), the insanely low number of convictions of bad cops, then an allegiance to themselves over and breaking the allegiance they took to the constitution and our country, the bastardization of the flag is fucking reprehensible.  As a minority, that blue line means they will kill and get away with murder (see castile, tamir rice, etc). The blue wall of silence is treason.