2 Old Men Yelling At Clouds

[DixonHur 11228]

19 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Not directly.  Probably a safe assumption the “billionaire” tax for 100 million spreads.

You are aware of the “temporary” nature of the original Federal Income Tax, correct?

Yes, but for the sake of argument, let's say income tax went away, how would you propose the Federal government raise money?  

I haven't thought a lot about it, so I'm curious what alternatives you think would work.

[elfenix 34172]

29 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Not directly.  Probably a safe assumption the “billionaire” tax for 100 million spreads.

You are aware of the “temporary” nature of the original Federal Income Tax, correct?

the republican party's primary goal for the last century has been to shove the burden of income taxation down the income/wealth curve to get a sufficient number of poors on board with killing it.  nevermind that they'd absolutely be worse off under any other system capable of remotely funding the government necessary for any post-agrarian economy. 

[Incredulity 11555]

4 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Yes, but for the sake of argument, let's say income tax went away, how would you propose the Federal government raise money?  

I haven't thought a lot about it, so I'm curious what alternatives you think would work.

Im not advocating for the abolition of income tax.

i am generally ok with a progressive income tax.  All of the brackets should be raised by income for the rate.  There probably should brackets at higher levels.  All the history indicates having rates above current max rate doesn’t collect any more revenue.

 

[ChiTownDoc 21102]

54 minutes ago, Covri said:

@ChiTownDoc can you pop in here and thank @Incredulity for fighting the good fight for you while you jet between Chicago and Miami? I know you just cut the check between events and keep on livin’, but @Incredulity wants you to know if he ever makes that kind of money, he’ll know he stood the line for you, you Sooner doctor!

I try not to be too big an asshole here but yeah, it’s bizarre how certain people really wanna carry water for the Uber wealthy - those way beyond where I’m at.  I don’t know incredulity’s personal situation so won’t comment there.  

All that being said, I get super frustrated seeing people out there voting for what’s in the best interest for billionaires.  

Conservatives are the scourge of the earth and the polar opposite of their hero, Jesus.  

[Dbeasy 14970]

3 hours ago, Boss Hogg said:

Bipartisan legislation that was soft.

 

I’m not sure what Republicans have to do with criminal justice policies and enforcement in Democratic dominated jurisdictions and the crime ridden state that results. 

You have no idea whatsoever what was in the legislation. You heard that on some program you watched or listen to that peddles propaganda, and you don’t even realize that. 

Crime is a problem everywhere and republicans have done nothing to address it of substance. So they are no better than Democrats.

You really have not provided a good rationale for sticking with the party. I’m not saying you should abandon it. I’m saying you should be more open minded about candidates from the other party and other party policies.  

 

Edited February 29 by Dbeasy

[fattyflattie 4636]

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Conservatives are the scourge of the earth and the polar opposite of their hero, Jesus.  

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you vote R well into having “made it”. Maybe I’m misremembering but there isn’t many well heeled sooner docs on this site I’d be confusing you with.  

[Satchel 6908]

In January, I called to schedule a doctor recommended routine procedure with UTSW. The earliest date I was able to lock in is in late April. Tell me again how bad things are in Canada?

[DixonHur 11228]

41 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you vote R well into having “made it”. Maybe I’m misremembering but there isn’t many well heeled sooner docs on this site I’d be confusing you with.  

Yes, changing your mind when presented with new information is a horrible precedent to set for the GOP

Edited February 29 by DixonHur

[ChiTownDoc 21102]

47 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t you vote R well into having “made it”. Maybe I’m misremembering but there isn’t many well heeled sooner docs on this site I’d be confusing you with.  

No. I was for Obama and that’s back to my residency.  35k baller.  Definitely no R since.  So actually had only a Bush R vote but I very much believed in trickle down etc a couple decades ago…Was against ‘handouts’ etc until I lived in big cities and saw actual discrepancies in what access different classes of people have to various opportunities.  

Edited February 29 by ChiTownDoc

[elfenix 34172]

22 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Yes, changing your mind when presented with new information is a horrible precedent to set for the GOP

i really think part of it is that the bible is seen as unchanging, so change is seen as weakness. 

[SydneyCarton 47885]

8 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

You have no idea whatsoever what was in the legislation. You heard that on some program you watched or listen to that peddles propaganda, and you don’t even realize that. 

Crime is a problem everywhere and republicans have done nothing to address it of substance. So they are no better than Democrats.

You really have not provided a good rationale for sticking with the party. I’m not saying you should abandon it. I’m saying you should be more open minded about candidates from the other party and other party policies.  

 

Uh, this particular poster 100% knows he’s peddling propaganda. 

[HenryJames 65890]

9 hours ago, ChiTownDoc said:

and the polar opposite of their hero, Jesus.  

Their hero is Yahweh, not Jesus.

[Incredulity 11555]

13 hours ago, Incredulity said:

At the end of the final day Uncle Sam is taking 40% of everything beyond 13 million. Will revert to 5 million after next year.  After having already paid income tax, property tax, capital gains tax,…..

 

 

Further on this.

The estate tax is a factor in wealth consolidation.  It’s very effective at forcing middle market family owned businesses to sell to large corporations with fractional ownership.

Nearly everyone prefers doing business with and working for family owned businesses yet government policy destroys the structure when it reaches a scale to impact larger businesses.