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18 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Gardner Minshew to Raiders, not a major addition, but makes you wonder what their plans are with regard to QB1.

Aiden O'Connell and Gardner Minshew?  Oof.

Makes the double clutch on Kingsbury all the more peculiar, as well.

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Cowboys are fucked with only $2.2 mil in cap room. Not prepared as usual. They can make about !65 mil in space with a few moves but should have done them. Jerry is playing with a stick while others are doing rocket science.

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1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Relieved the Vikings didn’t get suckered into a cousins albatross contract.

Maybe if he had more playoff wins in 6 years. 1 isn’t quite enough

I get that but what is their plan now? They don't get a QB worth a damn, they are going to waste some good offensive talent quickly.

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I get that but what is their plan now? They don't get a QB worth a damn, they are going to waste some good offensive talent quickly.
They signed Sam Darnold for peanuts which telegraphs their intent to go QB in RD1. But I'm having PTSD of Jefferson becoming Moss v2.0, spending a HOF-worthy career toiling away, racking up stats & accolades but no real hardware.
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I get that but what is their plan now? They don't get a QB worth a damn, they are going to waste some good offensive talent quickly.

Who? JJ? Few months ago I was, and still am to the belief that we can’t go next year with 100M tied to JJ and KC. Now that KC is gone, I wouldn’t be opposed to trading JJ. WRs are a dime a dozen. Probably the highest probability position to draft for outside of RB.


Every team in our division has direction. We didn’t, couldve made the argument it was a 5 win team 2 years ago but lucked into a bunch of wins. Team needs a youth rehaul while the Lions are gonna be good for a few years. Bears have picks galore and GB seemed to find a good young QB. Why try keeping up with that?
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And the Vikes are about to sign Aaron Jones for 1 yr/$7m which is quite nice. Dammit, they're going to give me hope again.

Yea lol. I don’t expect much. I still like signing about 6-7 good players with the money we saved from cousins.

The defense was atrocious last year. Jones is a good player. Probably will have some bone to pick with 2 GB games
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53 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

And the Vikes are about to sign Aaron Jones for 1 yr/$7m which is quite nice. Dammit, they're going to give me hope again.

Forget hope as long as Cousins is QB.

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1 hour ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

They signed Sam Darnold for peanuts emoji1645.png which telegraphs their intent to go QB in RD1. But I'm having PTSD of Jefferson becoming Moss v2.0, spending a HOF-worthy career toiling away, racking up stats & accolades but no real hardware.

Wouldn’t shock me if JJ bails.  
 

Also cowboys need an rb1

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14 hours ago, MrX said:

What’s Minny gonna do at QB?

 

Sam Darnold in a bridge year (which portends a lot of turnovers and pain for Vikings fans) while the rookie first rounder watches and learns.  2024 will not be a fun season in Minnesota.

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Kirk Cousins’ Falcons deal will ripple across NFL, from Justin Fields to Jared Goff and the draft

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Once again, Kirk Cousins won the checkbook Super Bowl. And once again, the victory will ripple across the NFL and into a multitude of different franchises, impacting the landscape of contract extensions, trades and the forthcoming draft.

The subtext of Cousins’ four-year, $180 million pact with the Atlanta Falcons, includes $100 million in hard guarantees that will boost his earnings to at least $321 million over the course of his career. It’s another win in a long line of victories for the quarterback and his agent, Mike McCartney of VaynerSports, who have carved out a staggering string of 11 consecutive years of fully guaranteed salary. In the process of that span, Cousins will have boosted both the top-end of quarterback salaries — via his 2018 deal with the Minnesota Vikings, which at the time made him the highest-paid player in the NFL — and also a robust run of second-tier quarterback contracts with fully guaranteed money.

All of this despite only one playoff win under his belt, which has ultimately mattered less at the negotiating table than Cousins’ willingness to play out his deals and choose his next destination in free agency. He did it with Washington and found a home with a Vikings franchise that was desperate for a quality starter. Then he did it again this week, quenching the Falcons’ thirst for a definitive resolution to an ongoing problem at the position.

This latest deal wasn’t simply about securing another bag. Atlanta is actually an enticing fit for the veteran, who turns 36 in August and now finds himself in the middle of a stacked offense, running the same Sean McVay scheme that he learned under Kevin O’Connell in Minnesota.

Kirk Cousins added to his lucrative legend this week. (Photo by Stephen Maturen/Getty Images)

This was a deal that made sense for the player and the team. Moreso than the alternatives for each party, which would have unfolded with Cousins taking less guaranteed money to stick with the Vikings, and put the Falcons into the position of either dealing for Justin Fields (who is at a very problematic point in his rookie contract) or settling for a second-tier rookie quarterback who isn’t among the draft’s “big three” of USC’s Caleb Williams, LSU’s Jayden Daniels and UNC’s Drake Maye.

Now the Falcons have a veteran answer at the position and Cousins has another two years of guaranteed money and a wealth of talent around him on offense.

While the Falcons and Cousins both come out of Monday as winners, there will be a host of other teams and players impacted, too. Among them …

The Chicago Bears and Justin Fields

If the swath of general managers who spoke to Yahoo Sports in December were to be believed, the trade market for the Bears quarterback was always soft. At best, the ceiling was viewed as a second-round draft pick, with the caveat that Fields needed to have a strong finish to the 2023 season. But the majority of GMs saw his value as some kind of third-round compensation or possibly less, assuming enough teams were interested in creating a market. Instead, the opposite happened, with a robust rookie quarterback class available, as well as three other veteran quarterbacks — Cousins, Baker Mayfield and Russell Wilson — all potentially on the market. Wilson’s intended signing with the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mayfield getting an extension done with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers effectively removed two potential trade suitors from the mix.

But it was Cousins’ move to Atlanta that proved most damaging to Fields. Not only did it cross off a franchise that had interest in him, the benefit of opening another starting QB spot in Minnesota is ultimately negated by the Vikings and Bears being in the same division. While it’s not unprecedented to deal a starting quarterback inside the division, it’s rare and fraught with potential disaster for the Bears if Fields were to develop into a quality starter in Minnesota.

Justin Fields

QB - CHI - #1

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2,562

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197.1

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61.4

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16

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Given that reality, it leaves a dwindling handful of potential destinations if Fields wants to be traded to a team that is looking for a starter. There’s the Las Vegas Raiders, who will reportedly sign Gardner Minshew on Monday and could still be in play for a rookie QB in Round 1. And there’s the Denver Broncos, who could also be in play for a first-round rookie.

Given the fifth-year option decision hanging over Fields’ current contract — which is unlikely to be triggered and essentially leaves him with one year left on his deal — it makes both of those destinations less likely.

The 'second tier' draft quarterbacks and the Vikings, Broncos and Raiders

Right now, the rookie quarterback class is shaped into an elite top tier — comprised of Williams, Daniels and Maye — followed by a second tier of Michigan’s J.J. McCarthy, Oregon’s Bo Nix and Washington’s Michael Penix Jr. Any member of that trio could have been in play at the Falcons’ No. 8 overall pick in the draft. Now it appears there’s a chance none of them go inside the top 10, unless the New York Giants make a surprise pick at No. 6 overall. Of course, that’s barring a trade up from one of the teams at No. 11 (the Vikings), 12 (Broncos) or 13 (Raiders). Within that trio, only the Raiders have a veteran in Minshew who has shown capability as a bridge starter. All three of those teams may be looking for their pick in the second tier, which could entail moving up into the top 10 if one QB surfaces as the best option after the big three.

The Detroit Lions and Jared Goff (plus every other future QB extension)

Cousins’ deal with the Falcons is going to weigh on the Goff extension talks. Not only is Goff younger (29), he has achieved considerably more in the postseason than Cousins. And what once looked like it could be a $50 million per year price tag for the Lions quarterback is now essentially assured of it.

Players like Dak Prescott and Trevor Lawrence are less likely to be impacted because both of their extensions could very well be a record. But Goff — as of now — had not been considered to be in that company.

Detroit’s NFC title game run in the playoffs could have already changed his salary floor. Cousins’ deal definitely puts a floor in.

Two prominent agents with a history of doing quarterback deals said Monday night that given Cousins’ deal, Goff’s floor should start inside the top-five quarterback deals. If Lawrence and Prescott get their deals done first and reset the market, that would put Goff’s average salary floor in the range of $52 million… if he doesn’t give the Lions some kind of discount.

 

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1 hour ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Are the Skins tipping their draft day choice?  Mariota as a mentor to Jayden Daniels and starter until Daniels is deemed ready?

Do you really want Mariota mentoring your QBs?

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2 hours ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Are the Skins tipping their draft day choice?  Mariota as a mentor to Jayden Daniels and starter until Daniels is deemed ready?

Commies were always expected to take one of the top 3 QBs.

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49 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Do you really want Mariota mentoring your QBs?

Only a one year deal.  But, he’s familiar with Kingsbury’s offense which could be a tipoff for who they might prefer to draft.

19 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Commies were always expected to take one of the top 3 QBs.

Then, you probably know that Maye has been the speculation as much, if not more, than Daniels for that overall #2 pick.

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9 minutes ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Only a one year deal.  But, he’s familiar with Kingsbury’s offense which could be a tipoff for who they might prefer to draft.

I assumed Daniels was their QB choice the minute they hired Kingsbury. 

Drake just doesn't feel like a Kingsbury QB.

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Sam Darnold in a bridge year (which portends a lot of turnovers and pain for Vikings fans) while the rookie first rounder watches and learns.  2024 will not be a fun season in Minnesota.

We’re numb to it. I’m just happy we’re not on the hook for KC the next 4 years and can build elsewhere
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2 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Darnold could be decent.   He’s younger than Bo nix I think

I love that Bo Nix is considered old at 24.  Jayden Daniels is 23.

It's not like he's Chris Weinke coming into the league at 29.

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55 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


We’re numb to it. I’m just happy we’re not on the hook for KC the next 4 years and can build elsewhere

I know -- been a Vikings fan for about 50 years.  The key now will be making the correct call on a young QB in the draft.  A wrong decision will be an albatross around the neck of the franchise for several years.  A good decision that nets the team a good young QB puts this team right back in contention for a division title in '25 or '26. 

I'm already writing 2024 off because (A) I don't want the team to throw a rookie QB to the wolves by starting him too early and (B) I don't think Darnold has the ability to win games consistently as a starter.

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1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


We’re numb to it. I’m just happy we’re not on the hook for KC the next 4 years and can build elsewhere

No one is committed to Cousins for the next 4 years. He basically signed a 2 year, $90 million deal with the Falcons. I doubt the Vikings get anywhere near his level of play at the QB situation the next 2 years. 

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7 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


Now that KC is gone, I wouldn’t be opposed to trading JJ. WRs are a dime a dozen.

I’ll bet you any amount of money you want to wager that the next WR you pick in the first round won’t put up almost 6,000 yards their first four seasons in the league….

1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

Darnold could be decent.   He’s younger than Bo nix I think

My dad is younger than Bo Nix…

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