2024 Tropical Storm and Hurricane, or the World is going to Hell, thread.

[crash_davis 23,114]

Starting this thread early since it may be a glorious year for coastlines throughout the world.

We're off to an amazing start for ocean temps. In a few years, we can catch our fish pre-cooked right from the ocean.

Source:

https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/?dm_id=world

 

Daily Surface temp

 

Source: https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/?dm_id=world

 

 

[Kel Varnsen 8,540]

RIP Coral Reefs

[DigglerontheHoof 21,208]

We have so fucked ourselves.  Humans are earth's aggy. 

[miguelito 11,266]

Out of curiosity, how did the other hot years on that graph do during hurricane season?  (How many named/major storms?)

[crash_davis 23,114]

MS Copilot results. Asking about 2023 since it was higher than the previous years.

 

how many named hurricanes and typhoons were there in 2023?

 

Copilot

In 2023, a total of 78 named storms occurred across the globe. This number includes both hurricanes and typhoons. Among these storms:

• 45 reached tropical cyclone strength (winds of 74 mph or higher).
• 30 reached major tropical cyclone strength (winds of 111 mph or higher).
• 7 storms achieved Category 5 status on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane wind scale, with winds exceeding 157 mph ¹.

Notably, the North Atlantic basin experienced 20 named storms, which was much above the average. Hurricane Idalia made landfall in the Florida Big Bend region as a major hurricane, causing widespread floodingHurricane Lee was the strongest storm in the Atlantic in 2023 and the only Category 5 storm ¹.

In the East Pacific, there were 17 named storms, including 10 hurricanes (8 of which were major hurricanes)Jova became the first Category 5 storm in the East Pacific in 2023 ¹.

Additionally, the West Pacific basin had 17 named storms, and the North Indian basin saw 8 named storms ¹.

Overall, the global accumulated cyclone energy (ACE), which integrates the strength, frequency, and duration of tropical storms, was about 8% above the 1991-2020 average ¹. The 2023 season was eventful, with several intense storms impacting different regions around the world.

 

 

 

 

 

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how did 2023 hurricanes and typhoon season rank in history?

 

Copilot

The 2023 Atlantic hurricane season was characterized by record-warm Atlantic sea surface temperatures and a strong El Niño. Here are some key points about its historical ranking:

• The Atlantic basin experienced 20 named storms in 2023, which ranks fourth for the most-named storms in a year since 1950.
• Among these storms, seven were hurricanes, and three intensified to major hurricanes (Category 3 or higher).
• An average season typically has 14 named storms, seven hurricanes, and three major hurricanes.
• Hurricane Idalia was the only U.S. landfalling hurricane in 2023, making landfall as a Category 3 hurricane near Keaton Beach, Florida.
• The Eastern Pacific basin also had an above-normal season with 17 named storms, including 10 hurricanes (eight of which were major hurricanes).
• Overall, the 2023 Atlantic seasonal activity fell within the NOAA Climate Prediction Center’s predicted ranges for named storms and hurricanes in the August updated outlook ¹.

In summary, the 2023 hurricane season was notable for its high storm count and the impact of Hurricane Idalia in the U.S. It was influenced by both warm ocean temperatures and El Niño conditions. Additionally, the Eastern Pacific basin also experienced an active season.

[Mother mopar 3,322]

It's definitely been a warm winter here in NW Florida. We've had like 3 days of it being in the 20s. It's usually triple that in the "winter".

[gsoda3 3,275]

MS Copilot results.

Can copilot convert data into chart form or is it only text based answers?

[crash_davis 23,114]

2 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

 

 

Can copilot convert data into chart form or is it only text based answers?

 

 

Copilot sucks.

 

show me the correlation between ocean water temperature and the number of category 4 and category 5 hurricanes and typhoons

 

Copilot

Certainly! The relationship between ocean water temperature and the intensity of hurricanes and typhoons is well-established. Here’s how it works:

1. Warmer Ocean Waters Fuel Storms:

   • Tropical cyclones (hurricanes, typhoons, and cyclones) form over warm ocean waters.
   • As ocean temperatures rise, these storms can pick up more energy, leading to higher wind speeds.
   • Warm waters provide the necessary heat and moisture for the storm’s development and intensification¹².

2. Specific Effects:

   • Increased SST contributes to the intensification of tropical cyclones.
   • Higher SST allows storms to extract more heat from the ocean, leading to stronger updrafts and more rapid intensification.
   • Warm ocean layers provide a favorable environment for sustained storm development¹.

3. Record High SSTs:

   • The 2023 Atlantic hurricane season was influenced by record high Atlantic sea surface temperatures.
   • Rising temperatures amplify the energy available to storms, leading to more intense hurricanes¹.

In summary, warmer ocean waters play a crucial role in the formation and strengthening of tropical cyclones. As climate change continues to raise ocean temperatures, the impact on storm intensity becomes increasingly significant.

[Biff Tannen 45,696]

Well this should go well. 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

(Laughs in Florida homeowners insurance prices)

[MissingInAction 25,134]

4 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

(Laughs in Florida homeowners insurance prices)

Haven't several big insurance companies just stopped offering insurance in florida?

[Neonmoon 38,130]

9 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

Haven't several big insurance companies just stopped offering insurance in florida?

AIG, Farmers, Bankers Insurance

https://www.nascus.org/2023/09/21/can-lawmakers-save-the-collapsing-florida-home-insurance-market/#:~:text=Since 2017%2C eleven property and,Insurance Company liquidated in 2023.

 

 

[Brisketexan 105,184]

Looking forward to Hurricane Ziggy....in June.

[conVINCEd 21,469]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Looking forward to Hurricane Ziggy....in June.

I vote for Zsa Zsa over Ziggy.

[crash_davis 23,114]

3 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

Haven't several big insurance companies just stopped offering insurance in florida?

Texas is starting to feel it. Buddy's daughter has a house in Alvin. Her home insurance dropped her. She's never filed a claim. She approached 3 others and they wouldn't quote her a policy. He signed her up with his insurance agent.

[F250 28,803]

21 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

Texas is starting to feel it. Buddy's daughter has a house in Alvin. Her home insurance dropped her. She's never filed a claim. She approached 3 others and they wouldn't quote her a policy. He signed her up with his insurance agent.

I have a cousin in the area too that was dropped by their insurance company. It took some effort but he was able to get coverage at a much higher rate.

Edited March 14 by F250

[crash_davis 23,114]

7 minutes ago, F250 said:

I have a cousin in the area too that was dropped by their insurance company. It took some effort but he was able to get coverage at a much higher rate.

She bought her house two or three years ago for about $330k. He said that her policy premium is over $3k, which is a few hundred more than what I pay for a significantly more expensive house in Austin.

[Brisketexan 105,184]

She bought her house two or three years ago for about $330k. He said that her policy premium is over $3k, which is a few hundred more than what I pay for a significantly more expensive house in Austin.

To balance it out, I know of entire neighborhoods in Austin getting dropped from coverage due to fire danger. So. Yay.

[conVINCEd 21,469]

1 hour ago, crash_davis said:

She bought her house two or three years ago for about $330k. He said that her policy premium is over $3k, which is a few hundred more than what I pay for a significantly more expensive house in Austin.

Insuring houses near the gulf coast is a losing proposition for insurance companies.  They can’t set a high enough premium to account for the risk.  TWIA exists because no insurer would willingly insure anything within 50 miles of the coast.

[Judge Roybeanbag 11,819]

35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

To balance it out, I know of entire neighborhoods in Austin getting dropped from coverage due to fire danger. So. Yay.

Lots in south Austin and Kyle getting dropped too, particularly by Nationwide.  They’re definitely “not on your side”.