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[Newdoc 3431]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Tyrese Hunter is maddening as a player.

You cannot expect a player at a major d1 institution to have multiple good games in a row. That’s preposterous.

[Hookem2147 20929]

The outlier is no longer when Tyrese Hunter has a bad game. It’s when he has a good one.

[Rockethorn1978 6061]

12 minutes ago, Pancho said:

All 3 refs in this game will be reffing Texas games in the SEC next year

Yea but now I can’t blame the conference!!!!!!! 

[Carl Spackler 3461]

2 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

I get this sentiment but at least for myself I just assume he is going to suck ass so it is a pleasant surprise when he has a night like last game once in a blue moon.

Abmas is more maddening to me.  He's supposed to be this great shooter but its about 40/60 that he is actually on.

I suppose it's somewhat a matter of perception, but I think Hunter has been far more inconsistent than Abmas this season.  

One thing we can agree on is that Terry and this fucking team give the fans a shot to the collective balls on just about a weekly basis.  It's maddening.

 

[ATXbronco 4060]

3 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

The outlier is no longer when Tyrese Hunter has a bad game. It’s when he has a good one.

Have not read this novel but ... here we are.

[dcar00 14035]

3 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I suppose it's somewhat a matter of perception, but I think Hunter has been far more inconsistent than Abmas this season.  

One thing we can agree on is that Terry and this fucking team give the fans a shot to the collective balls on just about a weekly basis.  It's maddening.

 

oh I agree with that.  I'm commenting on the fact that he is maddening.  He's not good and I resigned myself to that early in the season(last season he wasn't very good until the end, which made people hope the trajectory was up) so he isn't maddening to me.

Abmas was supposed to be this all world shooter and IMO he is good but not anywhere near what we were expecting. he is a zero too much based on his accolades.

[txhorns 2408]

20 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

oh I agree with that.  I'm commenting on the fact that he is maddening.  He's not good and I resigned myself to that early in the season(last season he wasn't very good until the end, which made people hope the trajectory was up) so he isn't maddening to me.

Abmas was supposed to be this all world shooter and IMO he is good but not anywhere near what we were expecting. he is a zero too much based on his accolades.

If you expected more than we got from Ahmad then you hadn’t watched him at all in the past.

[dcar00 14035]

12 minutes ago, txhorns said:

If you expected more than we got from Ahmad then you hadn’t watched him at all in the past.

Ahmad Brooks? Ahmad Rashad?  I don't think either of those guys have played basketball recently.

[BurgleBro 772]

45 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

oh I agree with that.  I'm commenting on the fact that he is maddening.  He's not good and I resigned myself to that early in the season(last season he wasn't very good until the end, which made people hope the trajectory was up) so he isn't maddening to me.

Abmas was supposed to be this all world shooter and IMO he is good but not anywhere near what we were expecting. he is a zero too much based on his accolades.

Abmas has been a great transfer, but his size and lack of athleticism are exposed against better talented teams..

He's less athletic than any guard we've had in the last two years. 

 

No knock on him but we're lucky to have gotten what we have outta him thus far. 

 

That's why recruiting still matters

[txhorns 2408]

Abmas is right at his career averages in practically every category other than shots taken.

[Rockethorn1978 6061]

We need to unleash Gavin perryman

[MuellerHorn 4193]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

The outlier is no longer when Tyrese Hunter has a bad game. It’s when he has a good one.

100% correct.

It's not even a bad game or an off game thing. Hunter is such a net-negative 80% of the time. He drags the team down. Literally does nothing except miss shots and turn the ball over. Most players who contribute what Hunter contributes during his on games aren't such a detriment to their team when they're off. Hunter, somehow, is.

Edited March 14 by MuellerHorn

[dcar00 14035]

1 minute ago, BurgleBro said:

Abmas has been a great transfer, but his size and lack of athleticism are exposed against better talented teams..

He's less athletic than any guard we've had in the last two years. 

 

No knock on him but we're lucky to have gotten what we have outta him thus far. 

 

That's why recruiting still matters

yes, he is at an athletic disadvantage but he's missing wide open shots a lot.  the funny thing is the 3's he made tonight late were mostly under duress from the D.

[Rimbo 25773]

i hate basketball

i keep trying to find a reason to like it

shaka, dipshit and now rodney keep giving me reasons not to

[Majorcholas 507]

Guys, we have 2 players capable of creating their own shot. Abmas and Disu. Who else can get a bucket when needed? We simply can’t score. We have some catch and shoot guys but that’s tough.

[Macklemore 2871]

2 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Perhaps not at the gay community you weirdo.

What does this mean? Link?

[Brian Fantana 6667]

Just now, Macklemore said:

What does this mean? Link?

Think it was deleted.

[RockyMountainHighHorn 889]

Well shit that was a bad game to take off hunter 

[JGrayDBU 336]

2 hours ago, TornACL said:

It also helps if Hunter makes more shots than a dead guy.

Flashed all the way back to Abe...Abe Lemons, for the youngsters, had a bunch of Abe-isms.  "You scored one point more than a dead man."

 

 

[shadow_operative 15932]

i don’t understand why we even make these posts after losses like this. it goes the same way every time.

 

 

[Valmy77 13093]

I don't understand why everybody flips out when we lose in basketball, like we are some basketball dynasty that rarely loses.

[Braff Zacklin 13411]

14 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't understand why everybody flips out when we lose in basketball, like we are some basketball dynasty that rarely loses.

It's just fandom in a nutshell. Consider: the baseball forum.

[Valmy77 13093]

17 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

It's just fandom in a nutshell. Consider: the baseball forum.

Well that's different. We are a 6 time national champion program with 80 conference titles in baseball and a top 4 finish in 2021. If we had that kind of resume in basketball that would be something else.

[Braff Zacklin 13411]

Just now, Valmy77 said:

Well that's different. We are a 6 time national champion program with 80 conference titles in baseball and a top 4 finish in 2021. If we had that kind of resume in basketball that would be something else.

Naw. The Fire [Insert Coach Name Here] Thread would get work regardless of Texas' pedigree unless said coach has a couple of championships under his belt.

For example, Pierce has been to Omaha and won the conference half the seasons he's coached, right? That's definitely on par--or better--than the program's historical average. Yet the Fire David Pierce thread gets work whenever Texas has a bad weekend.

And that trend will continue until he wins a title (or two).

[ClubWhatever 12087]

39 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't understand why everybody flips out when we lose in basketball, like we are some basketball dynasty that rarely loses.

I think it's the way we lose.   We look great for a half.   Then we come out and look like a high school team and the coach seems powerless to change it.   Then after the game he says the players have to play for 40 minutes.   Well, maybe you have to coach for 40 minutes.    If we looked like shit for the whole game, every game, apathy would eventually set in.   But no, we sometimes look really good so people think we should win.

[Valmy77 13093]

1 hour ago, ClubWhatever said:

I think it's the way we lose.   We look great for a half.   Then we come out and look like a high school team and the coach seems powerless to change it.   Then after the game he says the players have to play for 40 minutes.   Well, maybe you have to coach for 40 minutes.    If we looked like shit for the whole game, every game, apathy would eventually set in.   But no, we sometimes look really good so people think we should win.

Oh I know. This season has just been brutal. Takes me right back to the late-Barnes and Shaka era.

But it...it is kind of generally what we usually are in Basketball.

But also I was just sort of puzzled by the schadenfreude by the fans of the other schools as if beating Texas in Basketball was some big deal or something Texas fans should be shocked and embarrassed about.

[Pancho 44459]

4 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

I don't understand why everybody flips out when we lose in basketball, like we are some basketball dynasty that rarely loses.

Why would you come to this threat to post this? It’s stupid and idiotic. 

[Dbeasy 14963]

Why do fans have high expectations? Because for a brief moment the program was almost a perennial top ten. Until it wasn’t. The journey as a Texas basketball fan:

Abe Lemons - This is a fun guy. He wins some. Hey wow, we just won the NIT, awesome! He’s old  Boot him.

Kaiser Bob - Bobby Knight disciple? He’ll be great. Oh good lord what the hell was that? That’s the worst basketball I’ve ever seen on this planet. Boot him. 
 

Tom Penders - we are so up tempo! This is great! We made the tournament! Holy cow this team never plays defense. Boot him. 
 

Rick Barnes - so that’s what defense looks like. Wow we look like a real basketball team. TJ! Final four! Durant! We are becoming a bball powerhouse. Woah, what’s wrong with Rick? Whisper whisper. Boot him. 

Shaka - Well he is one of the up and coming coaches. I’m sure Patterson knows what he’s doing.  Plus he’s bringing Havoc with him so that should cement our standing as a perennial top ten program which is where Texas should be in all major sports. Woah, no havoc? Why is Shaka getting so weird? Nice recruiting but these teams are up and down like a yo yo. It’s all 3 point shooting live or die. Missed the tournament? Early exit again? Boot him. 

Chris Beard - Thank you lord! This man can coach. Wow these teams look different. Wait, he slapped who? Dammit. Boot him. 
 

Rodney Terry - Nice guy, decent recruitor but….

[Huckleberry 32695]

7 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

For example, Pierce has been to Omaha and won the conference half the seasons he's coached, right? That's definitely on par--or better--than the program's historical average.

No, actually, it's not. 

[txindep 142]

10 hours ago, dcar00 said:

Ahmad Brooks? Ahmad Rashad?  I don't think either of those guys have played basketball recently.

Still a classic. 

[Valmy77 13093]

5 hours ago, Pancho said:

Why would you come to this threat to post this? It’s stupid and idiotic. 

I was talking about the reaction of the opposing fans in the post above mine. It would be weird to react to a post in this thread in another thread.

Edited March 14 by Valmy77

[Braff Zacklin 13411]

1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

9 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

That's definitely on par--or better--than the program's historical average.

No, actually, it's not. 

I believe there have been 76 College World Series. Texas has appeared in 38 of them, so right at 50 percent.

Texas has been playing baseball for 129 seasons and won conference crowns 73 times, a 56.6 percent clip.

In that context, Pierce standing at 50 percent for both metrics seems "definitely on par" with the program's historical average. It's not better, but it's on par.

[Valmy77 13093]

4 hours ago, Braff Zacklin said:

Texas has been playing baseball for 129 seasons and won conference crowns 73 times, a 56.6 percent clip.

80. 80 times. The pre-SWC days count!

[Braff Zacklin 13411]

37 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

80. 80 times. The pre-SWC days count!

4 SIAA titles

2 TIAA titles

57 SWC titles

10 Big 12 titles

Pretty sure that adds up to 73, not 80.

[Valmy77 13093]

6 minutes ago, Braff Zacklin said:

4 SIAA titles

2 TIAA titles

57 SWC titles

10 Big 12 titles

Pretty sure that adds up to 73, not 80.

I hate to do this on the Basketball Board but you leave me no choice:

4 SIAA

1899, 1905, 1907, and 1908

2 TIAA

1913 and 1914

64 SWC

1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1932, 1935, 1936, 1938, 1939, 1940, 1941, 1943, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1991, 1992, and 1996

10 Big 12

2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2018, 2021, and 2023.

Source: https://texassports.com/documents/2024/2/14/24-fact-book-FULL-web.pdf

So...which SWC years do you not count?

[Braff Zacklin 13411]

Just now, Valmy77 said:

I hate to do this on the Basketball Board but you leave me no choice:

4 SIAA

1899, 1905, 1907, and 1908

2 TIAA

1913 and 1914

64 SWC

1915, 1916, 1917, 1918, 1919, 1920, 1921, 1922, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1932, 1935, 1936, 1938, 1939, 1940, 1941, 1943, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1948, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1954, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1979, 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1988, 1991, 1992, and 1996

10 Big 12

2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2018, 2021, and 2023.

Source: https://texassports.com/documents/2024/2/14/24-fact-book-FULL-web.pdf

So...which SWC years do you not count?

Are you combining conference tournament titles with regular season conference titles? One or the other, not both.

Bad form, Peter.