Who is winning the great $9.95 Longhorn streaming wars?

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

@statsman can you explain how Bobby is in Austin if he lives in Tennessee? 

 

 

[chainsaw 9859]

On 3/17/2024 at 12:39 PM, Thiefery said:

Texas Sports Unfiltered

I don't know how they do it but they have a ton of sponsors.

[Viper 12104]

2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

@statsman can you explain how Bobby is in Austin if he lives in Tennessee? 

 

Probably by plane, though hopefully not a 737

[BigOrange1 6433]

I honestly had no clue that Bobby lived in Nashville and I've been a regular watcher/listener of his YouTube channel since the 2022 football season.  

[Mother mopar 3318]

Probably by plane, though hopefully not a 737 Max

FIFY

[Thiefery 4995]

5 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I'm pretty sure I was seated in that picture. Also, @SydneyCarton is like 6'4", so that could be it. I'd forgotten that it was actually me in CF's avatar. What did that asshole's old handle used to be? And was I gone when that pic got posted? I think I came back at some point and all hell had broken loose. Carl was an insider with like 2000 rep points. CF's handle had been changed, Sydney's posting photos of me, and the regulars on this board are praising Tom Herman as a surprise candidate for coach of the year heading into 2020. It was absurd.

His old handle was Casual Encounter, and yes you were gone.. but Sydney shared the pic to ensure us you were ok..

I still remember when you took a previous hiatus.. you left the board with Sydney and Carl as our insiders.. You returned and scolded us for giving both Sydney and Carl so many rep points... like you were the boards version of Moses who damn us for celebrating our golden calves while you were gone and threw the tablet on us..

 

Terrific times..

[irishtexan 11515]

This is an incredibly banal conversation with some excellent shit talking peppered in. Just what I've come to expect from this board. 

[HenryJames 66038]

8 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I may have told this at some point, I can’t remember. I am pretty sure @HenryJames was there. 

We all met up in Austin for drinks and dinner one weekend during the early, happy days of the Barking Carnival efforts. Probably 8-10 of us. Anyway, we’re bullshitting at dinner and at some point, for whatever reason, height comes up. Someone asks me how tall I am and I say “6’2”” because, you know, that’s like factually correct and shit. 

Scipio can’t believe it, overhearing the conversation. “No way you’re 6’2”. I’m 6’2”. “ I say, cool, good for you, buddy. He still can’t accept it, bizarrely. It bothers the guy and finally he basically challenges me to a measurement. I would be mocking people having this conversation if I were seated near them and witnessing it. 

Anyway, I eventually capitulate to make it all go away and we stand back to back, in which the impartial judges begrudgingly informed Scipio that, in fact, he might not be fully 6’2”. He refused to believe it. To this day, I don’t know what in the fuck was going on there in his head, but for sure, physical dimensions are a part of his ego. 

Outside of high school sports, that is the only time my height ever proved crucial, winning that height contest in my early 30’s. 

@closetojumping is definitely 6'2" and is frequently mistaken for both Vincent D'Onofrio and Philip Rivers.

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13091]

6 hours ago, closetojumping said:

it. I'd forgotten that it was actually me in CF's avatar. What did that asshole's old handle used to be?

I’d like to thank God, my parents, and fellow assholes for their part in me being accepted into this honorary fraternity.

 

Surly forever.

[statsman 5455]

6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

@statsman can you explain how Bobby is in Austin if he lives in Tennessee? 

 

 

Ok, I listened to it. All of y’all are right, and I was so wrong. There is no other thirty minutes packed with more insight and inside knowledge. 
 
My greatest thanks for steering me right, right to this fountain. 

Edited March 19 by statsman

[tejas60 3532]

15 hours ago, HenryJames said:

@closetojumping is definitely 6'2" and is frequently mistaken for both Vincent D'Onofrio and Philip Rivers.

[closetojumping 62568]

I know we have discussed this stuff before, but some/a lot of the posters on the guru boards are special forms of stupid. I know Surly has its share of complete imbeciles, but wow. I haven't read 247, IT, or OB in forever and a day, so you forget about this stuff. On OTF now and some of it is unbelievable. 

There's the one type of poster who views any opinion other than that coming from a $9.95er as completely ignorable while at the same time hanging on a $9.95er's every word. You can forget about this, but when seeing it unfold in real time, it's a stark reminder of the outsized kind of weight the paid guys carry. That's hard to do with someone weighing close to a metric ton, such as Ketchum, but it's real. There are thousands of readers who think that Ketchum/Boyd/Nahlin/Richardson/FCB/Bohls/Golden are providing them with real insights about the program or recruiting.

Then you have the guys who truly are remarkable in that they appear to be adult humans surviving in society without any basic notion of reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. Whatever is overtly written or said by guys like Bobby or Gerry is only what can be concluded. Nothing else hinted at or vaguely touched on matters, no reading between the lines, just black and white simpleton silliness.

Another type is the guy who thinks everyone needs to see and hear his every thought, usually in the form of a new thread. Tell them otherwise, and you're offending them and they'll start asking the moderators to intervene. These are the worst kind of posters. 

Finally, there's the old guy who is new to the Internet and has no fucking clue how anything works. They're using their real names, they divulge a bunch of personal information, they think things like "I played sports in junior high, I know what I am talking about" and believe that with a straight face. These men wear their old iphones in a case on their hip. They have a keychain hanging from a belt loop with more than 10 keys on it for everyone to see. On weekends, they wear jorts with long white socks pulled up to their knees and their collared shirt is tucked into the jorts. These people are experts on the board who likely know more than even the gurus. They're constantly intervening to correct opinions and they're totally unironic in their intent to shape the board discussions to suit their outlook.

[Hookem2147 21200]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

There's the one type of poster who views any opinion other than that coming from a $9.95er as completely ignorable while at the same time hanging on a $9.95er's every word. You can forget about this, but when seeing it unfold in real time, it's a stark reminder of the outsized kind of weight the paid guys carry. That's hard to do with someone weighing close to a metric ton, such as Ketchum, but it's real. There are thousands of readers who think that Ketchum/Boyd/Nahlin/Richardson/FCB/Bohls/Golden are providing them with real insights about the program or recruiting.

 

[JesusSweatDuck 17781]

19 hours ago, Thiefery said:

His old handle was Casual Encounter, and yes you were gone.. but Sydney shared the pic to ensure us you were ok..

I still remember when you took a previous hiatus.. you left the board with Sydney and Carl as our insiders.. You returned and scolded us for giving both Sydney and Carl so many rep points... like you were the boards version of Moses who damn us for celebrating our golden calves while you were gone and threw the tablet on us..

 

Terrific times..

I forget how much rep Carl had before being negged to Bolivia, but I think he still holds the record. 

[Atticus 3973]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I know we have discussed this stuff before, but some/a lot of the posters on the guru boards are special forms of stupid. I know Surly has its share of complete imbeciles, but wow. I haven't read 247, IT, or OB in forever and a day, so you forget about this stuff. On OTF now and some of it is unbelievable. 

There's the one type of poster who views any opinion other than that coming from a $9.95er as completely ignorable while at the same time hanging on a $9.95er's every word. You can forget about this, but when seeing it unfold in real time, it's a stark reminder of the outsized kind of weight the paid guys carry. That's hard to do with someone weighing close to a metric ton, such as Ketchum, but it's real. There are thousands of readers who think that Ketchum/Boyd/Nahlin/Richardson/FCB/Bohls/Golden are providing them with real insights about the program or recruiting.

Then you have the guys who truly are remarkable in that they appear to be adult humans surviving in society without any basic notion of reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. Whatever is overtly written or said by guys like Bobby or Gerry is only what can be concluded. Nothing else hinted at or vaguely touched on matters, no reading between the lines, just black and white simpleton silliness.

Another type is the guy who thinks everyone needs to see and hear his every thought, usually in the form of a new thread. Tell them otherwise, and you're offending them and they'll start asking the moderators to intervene. These are the worst kind of posters. 

Finally, there's the old guy who is new to the Internet and has no fucking clue how anything works. They're using their real names, they divulge a bunch of personal information, they think things like "I played sports in junior high, I know what I am talking about" and believe that with a straight face. These men wear their old iphones in a case on their hip. They have a keychain hanging from a belt loop with more than 10 keys on it for everyone to see. On weekends, they wear jorts with long white socks pulled up to their knees and their collared shirt is tucked into the jorts. These people are experts on the board who likely know more than even the gurus. They're constantly intervening to correct opinions and they're totally unironic in their intent to shape the board discussions to suit their outlook.

The sad reality is, these kinds of boards of communities need all of those types of people to feel relatively welcome for them to grow. 

The more these guys are called out for their mindless and possibly harmful posts, the less engaged they'll be and the less inviting the community will be for new others to potentially join.

There's value in the Latiolais style of posting if there is a way to keep it from masking the more interesting shit.

[someguy 1508]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I know we have discussed this stuff before, but some/a lot of the posters on the guru boards are special forms of stupid. I know Surly has its share of complete imbeciles, but wow. I haven't read 247, IT, or OB in forever and a day, so you forget about this stuff. On OTF now and some of it is unbelievable. 

There's the one type of poster who views any opinion other than that coming from a $9.95er as completely ignorable while at the same time hanging on a $9.95er's every word. You can forget about this, but when seeing it unfold in real time, it's a stark reminder of the outsized kind of weight the paid guys carry. That's hard to do with someone weighing close to a metric ton, such as Ketchum, but it's real. There are thousands of readers who think that Ketchum/Boyd/Nahlin/Richardson/FCB/Bohls/Golden are providing them with real insights about the program or recruiting.

 

My personal favorite example of this was in fall camp 2 years ago.  After one particular practice, Anwar reported that Agiye Hall had a great practice and was turning heads with his athleticism.  I remember reading that - knowing that Hall had left practice about 15 minutes in never returned - and realizing just how much of the "reporting" is total conjecture and taking calculated shots in the dark.  

[BachelorTrek 2967]

22 hours ago, Thiefery said:

His old handle was Casual Encounter, and yes you were gone.. but Sydney shared the pic to ensure us you were ok..

I still remember when you took a previous hiatus.. you left the board with Sydney and Carl as our insiders.. You returned and scolded us for giving both Sydney and Carl so many rep points... like you were the boards version of Moses who damn us for celebrating our golden calves while you were gone and threw the tablet on us..

 

Terrific times..

[BachelorTrek 2967]

 

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12180]

4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

Finally, there's the old guy who is new to the Internet and has no fucking clue how anything works. They're using their real names, they divulge a bunch of personal information, they think things like "I played sports in junior high, I know what I am talking about" and believe that with a straight face. These men wear their old iphones in a case on their hip. They have a keychain hanging from a belt loop with more than 10 keys on it for everyone to see. On weekends, they wear jorts with long white socks pulled up to their knees and their collared shirt is tucked into the jorts. These people are experts on the board who likely know more than even the gurus. They're constantly intervening to correct opinions and they're totally unironic in their intent to shape the board discussions to suit their outlook.

I feel like this entire last paragraph you described a janitor. 

[kevwun 15766]

It's weird how Bobby Burton, who I understand has no contacts within the UT Football program and is never in Austin, managed to be at the UT Pro Day yesterday.

Edited March 21 by kevwun

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

2 hours ago, kevwun said:

It's weird how Bobby Burton, who I understand has no contacts within the UT Football program and is never in Austin, managed to be at the UT Pro Day yesterday.

I'm sure you're just as perplexed as @statsman

[statsman 5455]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I'm sure you're just as perplexed as @statsman

No, I’ve turned over a new leaf. I admit- Bobby Burton produces amazing content with mind blowing insights. He is the best. 

[Bodacious Bevo 3584]

Saying Bobby isn't connected is dumb but the multi-day dogpiling in this thread is weird 

[SimkinsMan 4386]

33 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Saying Bobby isn't connected is dumb but the multi-day dogpiling in this thread is weird 

No kidding. Especially after the dude responded that he realized he was wrong. But surly gonna surly. 

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

1 minute ago, SimkinsMan said:

No kidding. Especially after the dude responded that he realized he was wrong. But surly gonna surly. 

His response was sarcasm at best when he was found to be wrong. Dogpiling continues until his sarcasm is rendered.

[UDontKnow 10441]

6 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Saying Bobby isn't connected is dumb but the multi-day dogpiling in this thread is weird 

 

6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

His response was sarcasm at best when he was found to be wrong. Dogpiling continues until his sarcasm is rendered.

 

[RollLeft 5040]

Bobby and Gerry for the win.  That said Bobby needs to hand off the graphics/logo/marketing to a better team.  That "new" logo for OTF is shitty at best.  He needs to modernize and not create a logo that is straight from the "give me phatt beat" video .  IT by comparison looks great.  Nahlin and his product sucks all around.   

[Mother mopar 3318]

Bobby and Gerry for the win.  That said Bobby needs to hand off the graphics/logo/marketing to a better team.  That "new" logo for OTF is shitty at best.  He needs to modernize and not create a logo that is straight from the "give me phatt beat" video .  IT by comparison looks great.  Nahlin and his product sucks all around.   

When your product is superior, your marking oftentimes can be supar and still demand a premium.

[RollLeft 5040]

4 hours ago, Mother mopar said:

5 hours ago, RollLeft said:

Bobby and Gerry for the win.  That said Bobby needs to hand off the graphics/logo/marketing to a better team.  That "new" logo for OTF is shitty at best.  He needs to modernize and not create a logo that is straight from the "give me phatt beat" video .  IT by comparison looks great.  Nahlin and his product sucks all around.   

When your product is superior, your marking oftentimes can be supar and still demand a premium.

[Viper 12104]

6 hours ago, RollLeft said:

Bobby and Gerry for the win.  That said Bobby needs to hand off the graphics/logo/marketing to a better team.  That "new" logo for OTF is shitty at best.  He needs to modernize and not create a logo that is straight from the "give me phatt beat" video .  IT by comparison looks great.  Nahlin and his product sucks all around.   

[Funk Doctor Spock 12180]

8 hours ago, RollLeft said:

Bobby and Gerry for the win.  That said Bobby needs to hand off the graphics/logo/marketing to a better team.  That "new" logo for OTF is shitty at best.  He needs to modernize and not create a logo that is straight from the "give me phatt beat" video .  IT by comparison looks great.  Nahlin and his product sucks all around.   

I don't care how it looks, the content is superior to anyone out there. Content is all I care about, and it's great and best of all it's free. 

[RollLeft 5040]

Sure and there are guys who date women only for their great personalities.  

[bschoolprof 6252]

they are not 9.95rs, but does anyone listen to BK's youtube stuff?  I did ages ago, but I get bored quickly with all the streaming football stuff in the offseason.  

[DanTheHorn 4917]

On 3/19/2024 at 9:16 AM, Texasborn91 said:

Plus OTF has the trump of Gerry Hamilton. That dude is the best in the business. 

I think Gerry puts in the miles to have real information and that is why he is so good. On the downside he gets to know some of these kids and their families so well that he gets enamoured with some of the recruits abilities so some of his observations have to be taken with a grain of salt.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

16 hours ago, Spider2YBanana said:

I don't care how it looks, the content is superior to anyone out there. Content is all I care about, and it's great and best of all it's free. 

But if their platform is YT he 100% needs to. That kind of stuff brings in the casual fan. The more casual fans that he can bring in it will allow them to keep their content free and away from sub form. 
 

 

believe it or not all this stuff is proven by analytics on YT, Twitch, etc. 

[Hornius Emeritus 12450]

On 3/21/2024 at 9:54 AM, kevwun said:

It's weird how Bobby Burton, who I understand has no contacts within the UT Football program and is never in Austin, managed to be at the UT Pro Day yesterday.

 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12180]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

But if their platform is YT he 100% needs to. That kind of stuff brings in the casual fan. The more casual fans that he can bring in it will allow them to keep their content free and away from sub form. 
 

 

believe it or not all this stuff is proven by analytics on YT, Twitch, etc. 

It'll get better. It hasn't even been 2 years yet for them, and they've made strides. I think they launched in like June of 22 if I remember correctly (don't rely on my memory). Bobby knows that the look will have to get better, and it will. 

[Hornmatic 245]

On 3/20/2024 at 10:37 AM, closetojumping said:

I know we have discussed this stuff before, but some/a lot of the posters on the guru boards are special forms of stupid. I know Surly has its share of complete imbeciles, but wow. I haven't read 247, IT, or OB in forever and a day, so you forget about this stuff. On OTF now and some of it is unbelievable. 

There's the one type of poster who views any opinion other than that coming from a $9.95er as completely ignorable while at the same time hanging on a $9.95er's every word. You can forget about this, but when seeing it unfold in real time, it's a stark reminder of the outsized kind of weight the paid guys carry. That's hard to do with someone weighing close to a metric ton, such as Ketchum, but it's real. There are thousands of readers who think that Ketchum/Boyd/Nahlin/Richardson/FCB/Bohls/Golden are providing them with real insights about the program or recruiting.

Then you have the guys who truly are remarkable in that they appear to be adult humans surviving in society without any basic notion of reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. Whatever is overtly written or said by guys like Bobby or Gerry is only what can be concluded. Nothing else hinted at or vaguely touched on matters, no reading between the lines, just black and white simpleton silliness.

Another type is the guy who thinks everyone needs to see and hear his every thought, usually in the form of a new thread. Tell them otherwise, and you're offending them and they'll start asking the moderators to intervene. These are the worst kind of posters. 

Finally, there's the old guy who is new to the Internet and has no fucking clue how anything works. They're using their real names, they divulge a bunch of personal information, they think things like "I played sports in junior high, I know what I am talking about" and believe that with a straight face. These men wear their old iphones in a case on their hip. They have a keychain hanging from a belt loop with more than 10 keys on it for everyone to see. On weekends, they wear jorts with long white socks pulled up to their knees and their collared shirt is tucked into the jorts. These people are experts on the board who likely know more than even the gurus. They're constantly intervening to correct opinions and they're totally unironic in their intent to shape the board discussions to suit their outlook.

Don’t forget those that are completely unable to stay on topic. There will be an in-depth article on the receiving corps and the second post will be, “so how is Billy Walton looking?”  Or “do you think we’ll snag another dt from the portal??”

 

And Bobby/Gerry/CJ, bless their hearts, usually oblige with an answer even though they’ve undoubtedly covered the topic in another (likely recent) post under the appropriate header. 

[Vito Andolini 9125]

On 3/20/2024 at 10:37 AM, closetojumping said:

I know we have discussed this stuff before, but some/a lot of the posters on the guru boards are special forms of stupid. I know Surly has its share of complete imbeciles, but wow. I haven't read 247, IT, or OB in forever and a day, so you forget about this stuff. On OTF now and some of it is unbelievable. 

There's the one type of poster who views any opinion other than that coming from a $9.95er as completely ignorable while at the same time hanging on a $9.95er's every word. You can forget about this, but when seeing it unfold in real time, it's a stark reminder of the outsized kind of weight the paid guys carry. That's hard to do with someone weighing close to a metric ton, such as Ketchum, but it's real. There are thousands of readers who think that Ketchum/Boyd/Nahlin/Richardson/FCB/Bohls/Golden are providing them with real insights about the program or recruiting.

Then you have the guys who truly are remarkable in that they appear to be adult humans surviving in society without any basic notion of reading comprehension and critical thinking skills. Whatever is overtly written or said by guys like Bobby or Gerry is only what can be concluded. Nothing else hinted at or vaguely touched on matters, no reading between the lines, just black and white simpleton silliness.

Another type is the guy who thinks everyone needs to see and hear his every thought, usually in the form of a new thread. Tell them otherwise, and you're offending them and they'll start asking the moderators to intervene. These are the worst kind of posters. 

Finally, there's the old guy who is new to the Internet and has no fucking clue how anything works. They're using their real names, they divulge a bunch of personal information, they think things like "I played sports in junior high, I know what I am talking about" and believe that with a straight face. These men wear their old iphones in a case on their hip. They have a keychain hanging from a belt loop with more than 10 keys on it for everyone to see. On weekends, they wear jorts with long white socks pulled up to their knees and their collared shirt is tucked into the jorts. These people are experts on the board who likely know more than even the gurus. They're constantly intervening to correct opinions and they're totally unironic in their intent to shape the board discussions to suit their outlook.

CTJ is diving back in at the OTF site! This will be fun to watch.

[statsman 5455]

I’ve been subscribing to OTF and IT. Observations:

Their casts align fairly well:

Ringleader- Burton (OTF), Nahlin (IT). Burton is a more adept host. Who gives more information? Quicker? May be a matter of opinion. 
 
Ex-player- Babers (OTF), Kelson (IT). Again, a matter of taste. Babers has radio experience, but Kelson has a ten times better speaking voice. Babers, I feel, has a need to fill empty space that Kelson doesn’t. I prefer Kelson; even though he is never asked to carry a show, he usually provides real insights as the talk comes to him. 
 
Ex coach- Ervin (OTF), Shipley (OTF), Williams (IT). Frankly, I find none of them a must listen. I do enjoy Bobby talking with Ervin during the season. 
 
Cub reporter- CJ Vogel (OTF), Joe Cook (IT). I find Cook a better listen. YMMV

 Recruiting Ace-Hamilton (OTF), Wells (IT). Hamilton seems to bring more, and has a better delivery. Wells? I get it. He’s a “dawg” and he’s from East Texas. Got it. 
 
Does OTF have anyone like Boyd and Wadlington? I can’t find them, if they do. I like Boyd, when paired with Kelson or Wadlington. Wadlington pairs well with most everyone else. His “Everyone Gets a Trophy” podcast is a must listen, for me. 
 
I think we’re lucky that we have both channels. I “subscribe” (Apple podcast- my $9.95 is IT) to both, and listen, primarily based on who is talking. If it’s CJ and Babers, I’m out. If it’s Wells and Williams, I’m out. 

Edited April 12 by statsman

[SimkinsMan 4386]

17 minutes ago, statsman said:

I’ve been subscribing to OTF and IT. Observations:

Their casts align fairly well:

Ringleader- Burton (OTF), Nahlin (IT). Burton is a more adept host. Who gives more information? Quicker? May be a matter of opinion. 
 
Ex-player- Babers (OTF), Kelson (IT). Again, a matter of taste. Babers has radio experience, but Kelson has a ten times better speaking voice. Babers, I feel, has a need to fill empty space that Kelson doesn’t. I prefer Kelson; even though he is never asked to carry a show, he usually provides real insights as the talk comes to him. 
 
Ex coach- Ervin (OTF), Shipley (OTF), Williams (IT). Frankly, I find none of them a must listen. I do enjoy Bobby talking with Ervin during the season. 
 
Cub reporter- CJ Vogel (OTF), Joe Cook (IT). I find Cook a better listen. YMMV

 Recruiting Ace-Hamilton (OTF), Wells (IT). Hamilton seems to bring more, and has a better delivery. Wells? I get it. He’s a “dawg” and he’s from East Texas. Got it. 
 
Does OTF have anyone like Boyd and Wadlington? I can’t find them, if they do. I like Boyd, when paired with Kelson or Wadlington. Wadlington pairs well with most everyone else. His “Everyone Gets a Trophy” podcast is a must listen, for me. 
 
I think we’re lucky that we have both channels. I “subscribe” (Apple podcast- my $9.95 is IT) to both, and listen, primarily based on who is talking. If it’s CJ and Babers, I’m out. If it’s Wells and Williams, I’m out. 

I agree on Kelson. Pretty much everything else I disagree on. Boyd is a fucking beating. Hamilton is miles and miles ahead of Wells. Wadlington likes to smell his own farts.

[statsman 5455]

Ok. 

[Texasborn91 935]

24 minutes ago, statsman said:

I’ve been subscribing to OTF and IT. Observations:

Their casts align fairly well:

Ringleader- Burton (OTF), Nahlin (IT). Burton is a more adept host. Who gives more information? Quicker? May be a matter of opinion. 
 
Ex-player- Babers (OTF), Kelson (IT). Again, a matter of taste. Babers has radio experience, but Kelson has a ten times better speaking voice. Babers, I feel, has a need to fill empty space that Kelson doesn’t. I prefer Kelson; even though he is never asked to carry a show, he usually provides real insights as the talk comes to him. 
 
Ex coach- Ervin (OTF), Shipley (OTF), Williams (IT). Frankly, I find none of them a must listen. I do enjoy Bobby talking with Ervin during the season. 
 
Cub reporter- CJ Vogel (OTF), Joe Cook (IT). I find Cook a better listen. YMMV

 Recruiting Ace-Hamilton (OTF), Wells (IT). Hamilton seems to bring more, and has a better delivery. Wells? I get it. He’s a “dawg” and he’s from East Texas. Got it. 
 
Does OTF have anyone like Boyd and Wadlington? I can’t find them, if they do. I like Boyd, when paired with Kelson or Wadlington. Wadlington pairs well with most everyone else. His “Everyone Gets a Trophy” podcast is a must listen, for me. 
 
I think we’re lucky that we have both channels. I “subscribe” (Apple podcast- my $9.95 is IT) to both, and listen, primarily based on who is talking. If it’s CJ and Babers, I’m out. If it’s Wells and Williams, I’m out. 

I like Nahlins informative pieces. Bobby is a good host, but he’s not out there following recruits anymore.  Bobby is super plugged in though and has had loads of great guests on. Hamilton is a badass. Wells regurgates the same info on a prospect in numerous articles. 
 

IT probably has better content on the forum but OTF has a much better YouTube channel 

[Bbonds 3]

OTF is maybe two months old? Stop comparing content on the boards at this stage; it’s still in its infancy. The way OTF integrates with Surly is a plus.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

9 hours ago, statsman said:

I’ve been subscribing to OTF and IT. Observations:

Their casts align fairly well:

Ringleader- Burton (OTF), Nahlin (IT). Burton is a more adept host. Who gives more information? Quicker? May be a matter of opinion. 
 
Ex-player- Babers (OTF), Kelson (IT). Again, a matter of taste. Babers has radio experience, but Kelson has a ten times better speaking voice. Babers, I feel, has a need to fill empty space that Kelson doesn’t. I prefer Kelson; even though he is never asked to carry a show, he usually provides real insights as the talk comes to him. 
 
Ex coach- Ervin (OTF), Shipley (OTF), Williams (IT). Frankly, I find none of them a must listen. I do enjoy Bobby talking with Ervin during the season. 
 
Cub reporter- CJ Vogel (OTF), Joe Cook (IT). I find Cook a better listen. YMMV

 Recruiting Ace-Hamilton (OTF), Wells (IT). Hamilton seems to bring more, and has a better delivery. Wells? I get it. He’s a “dawg” and he’s from East Texas. Got it. 
 
Does OTF have anyone like Boyd and Wadlington? I can’t find them, if they do. I like Boyd, when paired with Kelson or Wadlington. Wadlington pairs well with most everyone else. His “Everyone Gets a Trophy” podcast is a must listen, for me. 
 
I think we’re lucky that we have both channels. I “subscribe” (Apple podcast- my $9.95 is IT) to both, and listen, primarily based on who is talking. If it’s CJ and Babers, I’m out. If it’s Wells and Williams, I’m out. 

Opinion rendered useless given the bolded. At least you tried.

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

8 hours ago, Bbonds said:

OTF is maybe two months old? Stop comparing content on the boards at this stage; it’s still in its infancy. The way OTF integrates with Surly is a plus.

The only thing you can compare them on is YT at this point especially since OTF's website is like a month or two old. 

 

OTF is the clear winner on Youtube

As far as owners of a site Burton is so far ahead of Nahlin in this aspect. 

Lets wait and see on the websites. 

As far as covering recruiting it's not Nahlin/Wells vs Burton/Gerry it is Nahlin/Wells vs Gerry/CJ.

 

 

 

The ultimate tie breaker: OTF is affiliated with Surly so get fucked IT.

Edited April 12 by BurntOrange&White

[statsman 5455]

Maybe a lot of it depends upon where you are as a fan. 25 years ago, I would have been a lot more interested in following the whole recruiting season as prospects appear, and then sign with Texas or a rival. Now, I only care about the top handful of prospects, maybe a local kid or big national guy.  
 
If it’s choosing between a podcast discussing Junior Day invites or the radio, I’m probably going with the latter. I probably enjoy the retrospective content more than some of y’all. 

[Viper 12104]

14 hours ago, statsman said:

I’ve been subscribing to OTF and IT. Observations:

Their casts align fairly well:

Ringleader- Burton (OTF), Nahlin (IT). Burton is a more adept host. Who gives more information? Quicker? May be a matter of opinion. 
 
Ex-player- Babers (OTF), Kelson (IT). Again, a matter of taste. Babers has radio experience, but Kelson has a ten times better speaking voice. Babers, I feel, has a need to fill empty space that Kelson doesn’t. I prefer Kelson; even though he is never asked to carry a show, he usually provides real insights as the talk comes to him. 
 
Ex coach- Ervin (OTF), Shipley (OTF), Williams (IT). Frankly, I find none of them a must listen. I do enjoy Bobby talking with Ervin during the season. 
 
Cub reporter- CJ Vogel (OTF), Joe Cook (IT). I find Cook a better listen. YMMV

 Recruiting Ace-Hamilton (OTF), Wells (IT). Hamilton seems to bring more, and has a better delivery. Wells? I get it. He’s a “dawg” and he’s from East Texas. Got it. 
 
Does OTF have anyone like Boyd and Wadlington? I can’t find them, if they do. I like Boyd, when paired with Kelson or Wadlington. Wadlington pairs well with most everyone else. His “Everyone Gets a Trophy” podcast is a must listen, for me. 
 
I think we’re lucky that we have both channels. I “subscribe” (Apple podcast- my $9.95 is IT) to both, and listen, primarily based on who is talking. If it’s CJ and Babers, I’m out. If it’s Wells and Williams, I’m out. 

Agree with some of this and disagree with some. 

Nahlin and Burton, while both the owners/leaders of their respective companies, have completely different roles on streams. Bobby isn't perfect but he's a pretty decent host and facilitator and can bring tons of knowledge of the history of Texas sports and recruiting; no one's been doing it longer. Nahlin though isn't a host. He's very very stiff in front of the camera/mic, and talks fast with a monotone voice. You have to really concentrate on it to process what he's saying.

Agree on Wadlington, somehow he makes Boyd better.

I like Vogel and Cookj but Cook can be a little dry or quiet so a slight nod to Vogel, but then then I really don't understand why his twitter and TFB avatar looks almost nothing like him.

Edited April 12 by Viper

[BurntOrange&White 39930]

One thing I like about Gerry/Bobby when talking recruiting is they actually share insights into technique and such when talking their evaluations. Wells just says generic shit like "he's a dawg!" 

[Thiefery 4995]

8 minutes ago, Viper said:

Agree with some of this and disagree with some. 

Nahlin and Burton, while both the owners/leaders of their respective companies, have completely different roles on streams. Bobby isn't perfect but he's a pretty decent host and facilitator and can bring tons of knowledge of the history of Texas sports and recruiting; no one's been doing it longer. Nahlin though isn't a host. He's very very stiff in front of the camera/mic, and talks fast with a monotone voice. You have to really concentrate on it to process what he's saying.

Agree on Wadlington, somehow he makes Boyd better.

I like Vogel and Wells but Wells can be a little dry or quiet so a slight nod to Vogel, but then then I really don't understand why his twitter and TFB avatar looks almost nothing like him.

has Bobby ever lashed out on his own subs in the message boards? Cause I've seen screenshots of Nahlin doing  it