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that dan schneider guy is a real creep. he made the nickelodeon logo a foot because of his foot fetish, and pretty much every show he ever made featured gratuitous amounts of young actresses unwittingly participating in soft core foot fetish porn. i saw a youtube video on it a couple of months ago and the shit was disgusting. lots of former child actors with horror stories about the guy.

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Crazy that they all took the abusers side and Drake Bell has just lived with this all these years.

I never watched any of this stuff - was after me - but that second episode reminded me that Amanda Bynes was crazy talented. Surprised she hasn’t sold her story yet.

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A book I read and commented on in the Books thread dealt with adults in the film/tv (mostly tv) industry, both in front of and behind the camera. While the topic was adults (and more specifically women, persons of color, and other under-represented groups, my overall impression was that this was not unusual behavior by some of the studios/productions despite attempts (lawsuits filed by victims, etc) to thwart the most egregious offenders. I don't know if the #MeToo movement that came afterward has assisted the endeavors to make the industry accountable for (pardon the pun) harboring bad actors, but it has got to be frustrating for anyone who did or is currently trying to create a safe professional environment for creative work to flourish. The industry should rid itself of the unspoken mantra 'in order for great art (or even a somewhat entertaining but highly profitable children's program) to happen, tyrants, racists, sexual abusers, etc must be given free reign.'

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what would you do/double dare came to the erwin center on some sort of tour when i was a kid and my brother and i got called up to the stage to open a door on WWYD. we ended getting slimed, which was badass. tasted kinda like cake batter. we avoided any weird foot stuff too. 10/10 experience, would do again.

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what would you do/double dare came to the erwin center on some sort of tour when i was a kid and my brother and i got called up to the stage to open a door on WWYD. we ended getting slimed, which was badass. tasted kinda like cake batter. we avoided any weird foot stuff too. 10/10 experience, would do again.

Is What Would You Do the one where you could slide into the giant pie? I was always mad jealous.

They re aired legends of the hidden temple and a bunch of other stuff for a bit when I was in school and the game was to drink whenever Kirk touched a child.

so much of my childhood spent wondering what the fuck a crag was. Or agro. Something British probably, I decided.

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6 hours ago, wutang75 said:

Crazy that they all took the abusers side and Drake Bell has just lived with this all these years.

I never watched any of this stuff - was after me - but that second episode reminded me that Amanda Bynes was crazy talented. Surprised she hasn’t sold her story yet.

Watching the guest story and yeah, man Amanda had a light. 

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25 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Didn’t Schnieder knock up jamie lynn spears ?

I remember hearing that, but with all of this stuff blowing up over the last week, there's photos of her oldest daughter and the guy who Spears claimed was the birth father and they look closer alike than Dan Schneider.  Also, I doubt Schneider would be that stupid.

If you want to go down a rabbit hole, https://www.crazydaysandnights.net has been after Schneider for years.

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40 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Man this was fucking horrible. Just truly dark awful stuff. 

James Marsden ain’t going to come out of this in a positive light.  If I was his agent or PR rep, this would be me right now

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Sounds like a lot of people are walking back letters of support for various people, and talking to attorneys, etc.

Meanwhile Drake Bell gave an interview 

https://deadline.com/2024/03/drake-bell-first-interview-since-release-quiet-on-set-1235866740/

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Speaking on The Sarah Fraser Show podcast, Bell said he hasn’t been impressed with Nickelodeon’s response to the documentary, which details his sexual abuse as a teen by Amanda Show dialogue coach Brian Peck. 

“There’s a very well-tailored response saying, ‘Learning about his trauma,’ because they couldn’t say that they didn’t know about this or what had happened, or anything,” he said. “So I think that was a really well-tailored response by probably some big attorney in Hollywood.”

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He added, “I find it pretty empty, their responses, because, I mean, they still show our shows, they still put our shows on,” he continued. “And I have to pay for my own therapy, I have to figure out what — I mean if there was anything, if there was any truth behind them actually caring, there would be something more than quotes on a page by obviously a legal representative telling them exactly how to tailor a response.”

Bell said he participated in the documentary because of a comfort level with the producers. He added that he declined a previous documentary project from a different group, and was astonished when they lashed out at him. 

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“[Another documentary] requested my involvement, and when I declined, the response I got was unbelievable,” he said. “In the email, they said that people like me were the problem, and this is why things aren’t gonna change in the industry because people like you won’t speak out and won’t come forward. It was just all this shaming of me not wanting to be a part of their documentary. So I’ve always been cautious and on-edge whenever approached to talk about such a sensitive topic.”

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Following the release of Quiet on Set, Nickelodeon issued the following statement: “Now that Drake Bell has disclosed his identity as the plaintiff in the 2004 case, we are dismayed and saddened to learn of the trauma he has endured, and we commend and support the strength required to come forward,”

That statement adds to a Nickelodeon statement that ended every episode of Quiet on Set: “In response to producers’ questions, Nickelodeon has stated it ‘investigates all formal complaints as part of our commitment to fostering a safe and professional workplace
 [W]e have adopted numerous safeguards over the years to help ensure we are living up to our own high standards and the expectations of our audience.”

 

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How how how the hell did disney hire this guy after he was sex offender.. like nobody in all of Hollywood could do that voice coach role but him??

It makes conspiracy pedo theory stuff seem plausible. 

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On 3/24/2024 at 8:08 PM, BurgleBro said:

It makes conspiracy pedo theory stuff seem plausible. 

Well no, but there are just some horrendously fucked up people in this world and they get covered up because they are in positions of power. Look at the Catholic Church for fucks sake. 

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I never watched Nickelodeon I thought the shows were some of the dumbest shit on tv. So i didn’t know any of thes actors or actresses nor have I heard of them.   But with all that said. What the fk is up with Hollywood and them fking kids 

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same thing that's up with the catholic church and evangelical church and teachers and law enforcement and music industry...

 

give people unquestioned power, trust, and influence over children and bad things tend to happen.

 

 

 

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On 3/25/2024 at 9:11 AM, Deej said:

Well no, but there are just some horrendously fucked up people in this world and they get covered up because they are in positions of power. Look at the Catholic Church for fucks sake. 

And Surly mods.

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On 3/18/2024 at 4:43 PM, Biff Tannen said:

So I can't watch Are You Afraid of the Dark? anymore?

Are you Afraid of the Dark aired on Nickelodeon, but they didn't produce it. Are you afraid of the dark was produced by a Canadian company called Cinar for the canadian kids channel YTV. It's not "real" nickelodeon, it's more like You Can't Do That On Television, aka imported shows that are associated with Nick in only in America.

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On 3/18/2024 at 5:29 PM, shadow_operative said:

what would you do/double dare came to the erwin center on some sort of tour when i was a kid and my brother and i got called up to the stage to open a door on WWYD. we ended getting slimed, which was badass. tasted kinda like cake batter. we avoided any weird foot stuff too. 10/10 experience, would do again.

I did in this in Houston when they came to the Summit. I was in the nose bleeds, but they amazingly pulled me down to do the Nick Arcade segment where I got to go into the game. It was basically like Microsoft Kinect, only on a commodore Amiga in 1993.

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On 3/25/2024 at 11:09 PM, Sgt Hulk said:

I never watched Nickelodeon I thought the shows were some of the dumbest shit on tv. So i didn’t know any of thes actors or actresses nor have I heard of them.   But with all that said. What the fk is up with Hollywood and them fking kids 

Granted all this shit was way after I had dipped from Nickelodeon, but in the late 80's and early 90's, Nickelodeon was basically MTV for kids. They had the style and tone down completely lock. They were just about the coolest fucking channel around when stuff like Ren & Stimpy or Clarrissa Explains it all or Welcome Freshman or You Can't Do that on Television were on. Dumb and for kids, obviously, but it felt like they were telling a joke and you, the kid, were in on the joke, and the joke was at adults expense. I love the gross out humor and slime and all that shit back in the day. I grew out of all this basically right around the time All That started airing, so I missed out on Kenan being a thing, but when I was little, Nickelodeon was fucking cool. I remember desperately wanting to go on Nickelodeon Guts and win a glowing piece of the radical rock. I miss when Marc Summers was like a little kid rock star.

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7 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

Granted all this shit was way after I had dipped from Nickelodeon, but in the late 80's and early 90's, Nickelodeon was basically MTV for kids. They had the style and tone down completely lock. They were just about the coolest fucking channel around when stuff like Ren & Stimpy or Clarrissa Explains it all or Welcome Freshman or You Can't Do that on Television were on. Dumb and for kids, obviously, but it felt like they were telling a joke and you, the kid, were in on the joke, and the joke was at adults expense. I love the gross out humor and slime and all that shit back in the day. I grew out of all this basically right around the time All That started airing, so I missed out on Kenan being a thing, but when I was little, Nickelodeon was fucking cool. I remember desperately wanting to go on Nickelodeon Guts and win a glowing piece of the radical rock. I miss when Marc Summers was like a little kid rock star.

Yea this. I basically didn't watch after the mid-90s so have no recollection of the shows and stars after that except for the few glances when my nephews were watching in the 2000s.

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I remember when Cuba Gooding Jr showed up and I was like "Who is this off-brand Omar motherfucker?"

 

horribly poor taste comedy sketch idea - Kids Gone Wild & Crazy. Just Dan Schneider pitching it to the execs.

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Started watching this last night.  These shows were well after my time.  I was barely plugged in for the early days of YCDTOT.  

There was definitely a lot of skeevy shit going on, but some of the stuff they highlighted was a stretch.  Like saying that that big nose character had a cock and balls on the shoulders of his costume and that that the giant sneeze was a cumshot joke.  It was a snot joke - something kids find hilarious.  But I guess you don't earn any benefit of the doubt when you're a shit person.  When you prove yourself to be a huge perv, everything you did gets interpreted through that perv lens. 

I did laugh at Ray Romano hungrily stroking a pickle that was passed through a glory hole.  Probably shouldn't have been on a kids' show, though.

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On 3/28/2024 at 9:40 AM, Sbbruin said:

Watched the first two episodes last night.  I agree with @Guadaloopy.  There was some serious sketchy shit going on, but it also felt like they were trying to manufacture controversy in some cases.  

Can't help but wonder if Dan Schneider would be as prominently featured in this if he didn't look the part of pedophile to a T. Some cringe-worthy shit to be sure, but morning struck me as predatory or abusive towards the children.

Sneaking adult jokes that fly over our kids' heads is a big part of why we tolerate kids' movies. He came off as a big kid that never grew up giggling to himself about writing dick jokes on a kids' show. Would that shit fly today? Hell no. But nothing jumped off the screen as, "oh my God, that guy's a monster." Well, maybe coercing a writer to pitch her idea while pretending to receive anal sex. That's super fucked up, but it was in a room with grown adults at least.

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^^^okay, maybe should have gotten to Episode 4 before writing that. That shit with Jamie Lynn and Ariana Grande is next level creepy. And daily female crew massage requests. Gross.

Just a gross industry as a whole. A bunch of adults deciding what would be most appealing for 14 year old boys to watch.

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On 3/25/2024 at 9:09 PM, Sgt Hulk said:

But with all that said. What the fk is up with Hollywood and them fking kids 

Pedophiles tend to calculate their way into positions of power and trust where they have loosely supervised access to children.

More news at 10.

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just watched the opening story from episode two, and 

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i will never ever ever understand these parents who don’t defend their kids from such overt sexual predation. how do you “struggle” with whether or not you should go to the police? you don’t want them to think you’re a bad mom? you are a bad mom lady. a terrible mom. jesus christ. 

 

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just watched the opening story from episode two, and 

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i will never ever ever understand these parents who don’t defend their kids from such overt sexual predation. how do you “struggle” with whether or not you should go to the police? you don’t want them to think you’re a bad mom? you are a bad mom lady. a terrible mom. jesus christ. 

 

It's ultimately projection. They say they don't want to step over their kids dreams, but it's really that they see dollar signs in their eyes and don't want to rock the boat. The mom in that Michael Jackson documentary had the same thing, the one who basically agreed to leave her husband in Australia so her son could move to LA and MJ would be his "dad." Any rational person not blinded by cash would see how obviously weird and inexcusable this shit is. Like that one kid who was abused said about his girlfriends mom, who figured everything out within hours of meeting the abuser, the behavior had gotten way past creepy at that point and you'd have to be willingly oblivious to miss it. You can't convince me otherwise.

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The upcoming installment will feature new interviews with Drake & Josh star Drake Bell, All That’s Giovonnie Samuels and Bryan Christopher Hearne, and Hearne’s mother Tracey Brown, all of whom appeared in the original run of the docuseries. Plus, another former All That cast member, Shane Lyons, will appear in Quiet on Set for the first time.

Since its release, numerous former Nickelodeon stars have spoken out about the stories shared in Quiet on Set, including Kenan and Kel star Kenan Thompson, Bell's Drake and Josh costar Josh Peck, Clarissa Explains It All actress Melissa Joan Hart, and even Blue's Clues host Steve Burns. 

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Schneider also posted a response video addressing some of the allegations made against him in the documentary's first four episodes. "Watching over the past two nights was very difficult," the former showrunner, who parted ways with the network in 2018, said in a 19-minute conversation with iCarly’s BooG!e. "Me facing my past behaviors — some of which are embarrassing and that I regret and I definitely owe some people a pretty strong apology."

 

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