Texas Basketball 2024-25

[Derka 5486]

1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

Texas shot the ball well from the three-point line. That included Jayson Kent hitting three triples, and Kadin Shedrick hitting a pair of three-pointers.

 

 

if shedrick is hitting multiple threes in a game our opponents are fucked.

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

I think Kent will be the player that surprises the most people. Based on everything I've read so far, he's really good. 

 

 

 

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

@Derkawhat's your guess on the starting 5? 

[Derka 5486]

it’s really tough to say. this team has a lot of guard/perimeter talent, and figuring out who plays well together could see the lineup evolve throughout the year. best guess at opening night starting five would be

pope

johnson

mark

kaluma

shedrick

 

that's the most experienced starting five that includes tre johnson, and pope is the only true PG on the team, so i can see RT going with group in the beginning. 

the point about Pope is also somewhat concerning. we have a lot of talented players but it isn’t clear and obvious how they all fit together, or even if they *will* fit together in an ideal way. i’m not sure who the true floor leader/alpha player will be, or if there will even be one. my biggest hope would be that tre johnson turns out to be so special that he becomes that guy as the season goes on. that’s a lot to ask of a freshman though.

i could see this team being a bit similar to auburn last year- yes, they were deep and talented, but because they relied on different people every night they never established a real leader or a guy or two who they’d always go to when the game got tight, and that’s even with johni broom. this is the toughest Texas team to handicap preseason in over a decade. i won’t be surprised if we have 3-4 different starting lineups before we settle on one.

Edited October 22 by Derka

[Derka 5486]

 

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

I think it's going to be tough keeping Kent out of the starting lineup but obviously a difficult decision with Kaluma.

Also, I think that's why we will go small a lot at the 5. I would much rather see minutes with Kaluma at the 5 than Onyema. 

[CTC2 2607]

2 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

I think Kent will be the player that surprises the most people. Based on everything I've read so far, he's really good. 

 

 

 

I saw some of practice today and that was my impression as well. 

[PantsTent 1995]

Anybody know if we are home or visitor for the Las Vegas game?  I'll be in Vegas that week and planning to attend.

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

2 hours ago, CTC2 said:

I saw some of practice today and that was my impression as well. 

Completely different positions but I view Kent much like Jabari Rice. Good at everything and got better every year in college. 

 

Edited October 23 by Rickylovesweed

[CTC2 2607]

As I mentioned, I got to check out practice today. I don’t think much can be gleaned from drills and scrimmage, but I’ll just mention some of my thoughts. I’m a fan of basketball, not an expert so my observations are rudimentary. 
It looked like to me the emphasis was on tempo. 
A lot of new faces and still trying to figure out who was who.  I did notice Weaver making quite a few outside shots which was good to see. The hustle is still there.  I’m always amazed at how high he can get off the ground. 
I’ll be curious to see what others think but Shedrick to my eyes, looked like he was playing at a much lighter weight than last year.  He seemed to be moving much better than last year so hopefully he is over all the injuries. 
Looking at the body types of the players I don’t think we are going to be pushing anyone around down low. 
As I said above, Kent really caught my eye as standing out. 
Johnson has a nice shot and during a break he went around the arch and made pretty much all but a couple of threes. 
The players did seem supportive of each other and generally seemed to work well together. It may be that it’s going to take some time to really get the chemistry going. I say that because I did see some really good passing under the bucket but unfortunately the passes seemed to be a real surprise to the recipient. 
While the assistants ran some parts of the practice, RT was super engaged and hands on. 
I really enjoy seeing games at Moody and it did get me excited for the season. 
 

[Derka 5486]

 

[closetohumping 17249]

16 hours ago, Derka said:

 

I think I saw Devin booker and DJ at the game.  Who else is recognizable 

[Stringer 1397]

Oh shit, I just saw that Grayson Allen is on the Suns. Was he there? If him and Ted Cruz were there, does that multiply the curse?

[ztejas 42730]

On 10/22/2024 at 3:02 PM, Rickylovesweed said:

I think Kent will be the player that surprises the most people. Based on everything I've read so far, he's really good. 

 

 

 

I thought he was very underrated in the transfer rankings. 

His stats from last season were awesome.

16 hours ago, closetohumping said:

I think I saw Devin booker and DJ at the game.  Who else is recognizable 

Beal was there.

3 hours ago, Stringer said:

Oh shit, I just saw that Grayson Allen is on the Suns. Was he there? If him and Ted Cruz were there, does that multiply the curse?

Didn't see The Tripper.

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

14 hours ago, ztejas said:

I thought he was very underrated in the transfer rankings. 

His stats from last season were awesome.

 

The big thing with Kent (like Jabari Rice) is he was undervalued in the portal rankings because he didn't produce much in his first few years. 

But I don't view that as a bad thing when a player improves every year. Some guys just take 3 or 4 years to reach their ceiling at this level. 

 

[cafe society 2831]

On 10/22/2024 at 4:06 PM, Derka said:

it’s really tough to say. this team has a lot of guard/perimeter talent, and figuring out who plays well together could see the lineup evolve throughout the year. best guess at opening night starting five would be

pope

johnson

mark

kaluma

shedrick

 

that's the most experienced starting five that includes tre johnson, and pope is the only true PG on the team, so i can see RT going with group in the beginning. 

the point about Pope is also somewhat concerning. we have a lot of talented players but it isn’t clear and obvious how they all fit together, or even if they *will* fit together in an ideal way. i’m not sure who the true floor leader/alpha player will be, or if there will even be one. my biggest hope would be that tre johnson turns out to be so special that he becomes that guy as the season goes on. that’s a lot to ask of a freshman though.

i could see this team being a bit similar to auburn last year- yes, they were deep and talented, but because they relied on different people every night they never established a real leader or a guy or two who they’d always go to when the game got tight, and that’s even with johni broom. this is the toughest Texas team to handicap preseason in over a decade. i won’t be surprised if we have 3-4 different starting lineups before we settle on one.

Wasn't Larry the Sycamores PG?  For some reason I was under that impression.

[Derka 5486]

you’re right, he’s also a pg. for some reason i had him as a combo guard in my head.

[cafe society 2831]

14 minutes ago, Derka said:

you’re right, he’s also a pg. for some reason i had him as a combo guard in my head.

Lol.  Thanks, this will likely be the only time that I was right about something.  Appreciate your hoops knowledge.

[Rholl 217]

On 10/20/2024 at 5:23 PM, ATXbronco said:

Former NBA Coach of the Year Monty Williams will be a high school coach in San Antonio

 

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/41907698/monty-williams-coach-sons-san-antonio-prep-school

 

 

 

Odd here, high school basketball starts in a few days/weeks….. odd time to switch coaches….. also TMI Maxpreps basketball page lists Bruce Bowen as the head coach…. NBA all over the place.

[ATXbronco 3951]

 

31 minutes ago, Rholl said:

Odd here, high school basketball starts in a few days/weeks….. odd time to switch coaches….. also TMI Maxpreps basketball page lists Bruce Bowen as the head coach…. NBA all over the place.

This won't be awkward at all

 

https://x.com/DonHarris4

Edited Friday at 10:31 PM by ATXbronco

[Rholl 217]

man thats odd timing!    

[ATXbronco 3951]

I don't see Draven Duncan on 247 yet but I'm ready to have him be recruited. 

 

[Hookem2147 20809]

Craig Way interviewed Terry yesterday. A few interesting things he mentioned was we were +18 in the rebounding battle against TCU and he thought Jordan Pope had some Max Abmas in his game as a scorer.

One thing he said he didn’t like was the number of fouls we committed.

[Pancho 41616]

 

[Hookem2147 20809]

38 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Gerry said he went for 31.

Said Texas led by as many as 17 and won 79-75.

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

4 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

Gerry said he went for 31.

Said Texas led by as many as 17 and won 79-75.

Apparently, he was also our leading scorer against TCU. 

Jamie Shaw (On3) is pretty much implying that he should have been the top recruit or #2. 

[Derka 5486]

yeah i’ve been doing my best not to get my hopes up about Tre because it’s been so long since we’ve had an impact freshman of his kind on the perimeter that it’s hard to believe. but damn it, this kid can hoop.

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

1 hour ago, Derka said:

yeah i’ve been doing my best not to get my hopes up about Tre because it’s been so long since we’ve had an impact freshman of his kind on the perimeter that it’s hard to believe. but damn it, this kid can hoop.

I have more hope with Tre because he's a different mold than previous 5 stars. 

More skilled versus just being an athletic freak. This is why I think the recruiting rankings value pro potential too much. They prioritize athletic potential way too much over being college-ready. 

[ztejas 42730]

Guys calm down my peener can only get so stiff. 

Also - if he does wind up being that good - we need to give RT and the staff massive props for keeping the kid at home. 

These feel like the type of recruits that the KD branding helps with, too.

Edited Monday at 12:37 PM by ztejas

[Hookem2147 20809]

Gerry said Tramon Mark had a rolled ankle and didn’t participate in the scrimmage. Sounds like he may be questionable for the opener next week.

Edited Monday at 01:45 PM by Hookem2147

[BurntOrange&White 38679]

12 hours ago, Rickylovesweed said:

Apparently, he was also our leading scorer against TCU. 

Jamie Shaw (On3) is pretty much implying that he should have been the top recruit or #2. 

With Flagg being in this class highest ranking achievable is 2 IMO.

[ztejas 42730]

21 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

With Flagg being in this class highest ranking achievable is 2 IMO.

Flagg hasn't done shit. Good prospect but we know nothing about him as a player yet. Tre could easily go first in the draft even assuming they both stay healthy. 

Here are the #1 recruits since 2014:

- Mudiay (huge bust - zero NBA career)

- Ben Simmons (decent NBA career that has gone off the rails)

- Josh Jackson (bust)

- Marvin Bagley (bust)

- RJ Barrett (NBA rotation guy)

- Ant

- Cade Cunningham

- Chet

- Nick Smith TBD

- Ron Holland TBD but looking like firm bust territory

[BurntOrange&White 38679]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Flagg hasn't done shit. Good prospect but we know nothing about him as a player yet. Tre could easily go first in the draft even assuming they both stay healthy. 

Here are the #1 recruits since 2014:

- Mudiay (huge bust - zero NBA career)

- Ben Simmons (decent NBA career that has gone off the rails)

- Josh Jackson (bust)

- Marvin Bagley (bust)

- RJ Barrett (NBA rotation guy)

- Ant

- Cade Cunningham

- Chet

- Nick Smith TBD

- Ron Holland TBD but looking like firm bust territory

Did you at all watch Olympic practices? dude was cooking the fuck outta elite NBA players.

[ztejas 42730]

2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Did you at all watch Olympic practices? dude was cooking the fuck outta elite NBA players.

Did you watch Stromile Swift in college?

Doesn't matter what he's done or what he looks like until he plays a game in college let alone the league. The road to being an NBA star is full of trash in the medians. 

BTW I'm not saying Flagg won't be good - just that there's zero way to know he'll be better than Tre or any other guy in the top 10 so far. 

Edited Monday at 03:05 PM by ztejas

[BurntOrange&White 38679]

So you're just yapping to yap?

[ztejas 42730]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So you're just yapping to yap?

You said he can't jump Flagg. You're talking about prospects that have played 0 minutes at the college level. Do you think the draft rankings are static from August until next June?

[BurntOrange&White 38679]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

You said he can't jump Flagg. You're talking about prospects that have played 0 minutes at the college level. Do you think the draft rankings are static from August until next June?

Flagg is the overwhelming #1 draft pick in the NBA draft he's been that for years now for his class. Unless he completely shits the bed, not likely. He's going to be that.

[ztejas 42730]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Flagg is the overwhelming #1 draft pick in the NBA draft he's been that for years now for his class. Unless he completely shits the bed, not likely. He's going to be that.

Then go put a bunch of money on it. 

I'm not disagreeing with you I'm telling you that hoops prospects flame out all the fucking time. There isn't a law saying Flagg has to go #1 - if someone outplays him and showcases as a better prospect they may get drafted before him. 

[Derka 5486]

tre is not going to pass flagg, ace bailey, or dylan harper (or a few other prospects in his class) but he does have a chance to be the biggest impact freshman at Texas since isaiah taylor, and that’s good enough for me.

Edited Monday at 03:32 PM by Derka

[ztejas 42730]

7 minutes ago, Derka said:

tre is not going to pass flagg, ace bailey, or dylan harper (or a few other prospects in his class) but he does have a chance to be the biggest impact freshman at Texas since isaiah taylor, and that’s good enough for me.

If he keeps dropping 30 spots he could pass a bunch of people. 

But I agree - just need him to contribute to winning. Texas isn't a vehicle for one guy to raise his stock. 

I'm starting to think we have a sneaky-good - EE type season. 

[jimmyjazz 45017]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

I'm starting to think we have a sneaky-good - EE type season. 

Dammit.

[txhorns 2386]

It's a little early but if anyone isn't using their tickets against Houston Christian next Friday I need 2 or 3.

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

8 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Flagg is the overwhelming #1 draft pick in the NBA draft he's been that for years now for his class. Unless he completely shits the bed, not likely. He's going to be that.

Flagg is probably the prospect with the most pro potential. He's also only 17 years old.

He went 3/9 in an exhibition last night and struggled offensively. This is what I was talking about above. Is Tre Johnson the best pro prospect in the class? Probably not but he might be the most college-ready as a FR. 

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

8 hours ago, ztejas said:

Then go put a bunch of money on it. 

I'm not disagreeing with you I'm telling you that hoops prospects flame out all the fucking time. There isn't a law saying Flagg has to go #1 - if someone outplays him and showcases as a better prospect they may get drafted before him. 

I think the bigger point is just because a player goes #1 doesn't mean they're the most college-ready player in that class.

I have a lot of doubts about a 17 year old producing at a high level in college. When is the last time a recruit that reclassified had a bunch of success? It seems like it's almost always a failure. 

Flagg is just starting his pro clock a year early and I don't blame him. 

[Rickylovesweed 14076]

I can only get so hard. 

 

[Js1 82103]

Tre being on campus has me so excited for this season

[HtownHorn 14285]

Yeah, 100% we would have had a completely different team with Holland and Johnson last year. They went #5 and #23 in the draft. Johnson easily fits there in the 2025 draft, but he will have a team filled with veteran college players so that he doesn't have to feel the pressure of being a one and done lottery pick.

[hookem48 4602]

can't wait for SEC Network basketball seeing as though their football coverage is so fucking awesome.

[MotownHorn 1714]

We're not ranked in the The Athletic's Top 25. I'm surprised

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5880977/2024/10/29/mens-college-basketball-ncaa-preseason-top-25/

[Derka 5486]

espn top 100 players:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/42001025/mens-ncaa-basketball-player-rank-2024-25-preseason-top-100

 

Edited yesterday at 04:37 AM by Derka