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35 minutes ago, HookEm said:

My ranking of painful losses, all in the NCAA tourney:

  • 2011 - Arizona - We were a legit title contender and got absolutely robbed

5 second call?

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  • 2006 - LSU - Overtime loss in the Elite 8 as a 2-seed to 4-seed LSU cost us a Final Four

nm wrong game

 

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  • 2016 - Northern Iowa - Half court buzzer beater they showed over and over

Dammit.

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35 minutes ago, HookEm said:

2021 - ACU - Absolutely horrendous loss as a 3 seed. F this loss. F Shaka.  Still pissed.

I'm not sure I would count this as painful. Don't get me wrong, it was an awful loss, but I remember being happy about it after about 15 minutes because I knew it was likely the nail in the coffin for Shaka, and I also didn't believe for a second that Shaka's team would make a run in the tourney anyways. It had shades of Charlie Strong losing to Kansas his last year at Texas. 

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3 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

I'm not sure I would count this as painful. Don't get me wrong, it was an awful loss, but I remember being happy about it after about 15 minutes because I knew it was likely the nail in the coffin for Shaka, and I also didn't believe for a second that Shaka's team would make a run in the tourney anyways. It had shades of Charlie Strong losing to Kansas his last year at Texas. 

Every loss in March Madness is painful. Regardless of what I thought about Shaka, the tournament loses a lot of luster the earlier you get eliminated. It’s not as fun 

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5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Every loss in March Madness is painful. Regardless of what I thought about Shaka, the tournament loses a lot of luster the earlier you get eliminated. It’s not as fun 

Sure, but the mitigating factors made that loss way less painful to me than some of the other ones on his list. 

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1 hour ago, HookEm said:

Blowout loss in the Elite 8 to #1 Memphis showed how far we were from being elite

nah, that was just the absolute worst matchup possible. we’d just waxed the lopez twins stanford team by 20 in the S16 and would have been much more competitive against any other team in the tourney. our three-midget back court vs a backcourt whose smallest guard by far was derrick rose was simply the worst matchup possible.

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2 hours ago, Burt Macklin said:

I'm not sure I would count this as painful. Don't get me wrong, it was an awful loss, but I remember being happy about it after about 15 minutes because I knew it was likely the nail in the coffin for Shaka, and I also didn't believe for a second that Shaka's team would make a run in the tourney anyways. It had shades of Charlie Strong losing to Kansas his last year at Texas. 

Was personally painful for me as I had hosted some friends with my wife with dinner made and everything thinking we could have a fun time chatting and somewhat paying attention to a game in hand for the good guys and watching some of the others for upsets. Instead ended up being me in shock/not in a good mood to shoot the shit with people that couldn’t care less about the result of the Texas game.

To this day I still don’t understand how Shaka failed here but was successful at VCU and now Marquette. It just doesn’t make me super confident that any new hire will really excel here.  Beard looked like he was gonna be that guy, but then stranglegate occurred.

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Every loss in March Madness is painful. Regardless of what I thought about Shaka, the tournament loses a lot of luster the earlier you get eliminated. It’s not as fun 

Depends on how you look at it, March Sadness just becomes stress free viewing for the remainder of the NCAAT. That’s I’ve dealt with it the last few seasons. 

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13 minutes ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

To this day I still don’t understand how Shaka failed here but was successful at VCU and now Marquette. It just doesn’t make me super confident that any new hire will really excel here.  Beard looked like he was gonna be that guy, but then stranglegate occurred.

Eh. I think Shaka was a unique situation that can’t be applied to every new hire. He was immature and insecure. He thought he had to completely change his coaching style and the type of player he recruited to fit UT (despite no one telling him he had to do this). I still think he has some fundamental flaws that get much more exposed in a conference that’s competitive night in and night out so he’ll never be an elite coach, but I expect he’ll do a better job the next time he gets a shot at a major program by sticking to what works for him. 

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1 hour ago, shakahorn said:

That LSU game in 06 was the worst.  On the last (or near last) possession of regulation, we played balls out great D and forced Big Baby Davis to chuck up a 3 which went in.  I think he had only taken like 2 3's all year.

from one of my old posts about that game:

 

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we win that game 95 times out of 100. 

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18 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Eh. I think Shaka was a unique situation that can’t be applied to every new hire. He was immature and insecure. He thought he had to completely change his coaching style and the type of player he recruited to fit UT (despite no one telling him he had to do this). I still think he has some fundamental flaws that get much more exposed in a conference that’s competitive night in and night out so he’ll never be an elite coach, but I expect he’ll do a better job the next time he gets a shot at a major program by sticking to what works for him. 

Like Mack changing his entire offense due to losing to Bama, despite having no experience in running it.

Shaka had a system - there was zero reason to change it because you went to a bigger school.  Recruit the players to your system, but he instead recruited his new system to the caliber of players Texas can land.  And it didn't work. 

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26 minutes ago, I Plead Da Fif said:

To this day I still don’t understand how Shaka failed here but was successful at VCU and now Marquette.

his hiring and the entire process behind his hiring was simply inexplicable. he announced publicly on day 1 that he would not be running havoc at Texas, that the Big XII was a different, more physical league, that he’d be recruiting a different caliber of player, and that he planned on playing a half court, inside-offense, which is exactly what he did that first season.

why the FUCK did we even hire a guy if his entire plan was to throw out everything that had made him successful in the first place, instead opting to try some whole new shit the very moment he joins the toughest league in america? fuck you steve patterson.

throughout his six long, miserable years here he tinkered with and changed the offense several times, but he never once even considered trying to run anything remotely in his wheelhouse. he figured it would be a better idea to recruit track and field athletes and then have them run an NBA offense predicated on playing five-out, lots of iso ball, and tons of three-point shooting. his recruiting philosophy diametrically opposed his basketball tactics, and made it to where roster retention and cohesion was impossible.

now he’s back in a lesser league, at a basketball school with an enormous budget, and he’s back to doing what got him the title of “hottest young coach in the game” in the first place. this fucking retard spent six years at Texas trying to be somebody he’s not, he squandered a plethora of top 8 national recruiting classes, he went 11-22 one year with a tourney level roster, and then he talked some fly shit on the way out the door about how he was happy to be at marquette “where they care about basketball” and “where the fans will show up.” never mind that this fucking loser was more concerned with hanging out at jester after dark than he was getting his fanbase involved at all.

fuck shaka smart, all day every day. don’t ever forget what that retard snake oil salesman did here (for the sake of all of us i’m not even going to rehash the completely fucked up mind games and abuses of trust he did with rick barnes leftover players), or how he essentially blacked Texas and our culture for his own failures here. that guy is some nice guy former coach who you should wish. fuck that dude. 

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14 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

The irony is that running havoc in a big physical league MIGHT have had a real chance of success.  It comes down to the tradeoff between what your team can do they can't deal with vs what they can do you can't deal with.

we would have killed running havoc in dhaka’s first year after cam ridley broke his foot.

back court:

•isaiah taylor- lighting fast PG who scored, distributed, shot a ton of FTs, and was just a dog

•demarcus holland- 1st team all big xii defender, team captain, all effort, high iq player, coming off a season where he shot .464 from deep on 1.6 attempts 

•Javan Felix- senior with a ton of starts, solid role player with a knack for hitting big shots 

•Eric Davis Jr- big XII all freshman team 

•Kerwin Roach- crazy athlete born to play havoc, big xii all freshman team 

•Tevin Mack- long, rangey player who’s better in transition than the half court 

 

front court:

•Connor Lammert- stretch 4 who could rebound shoot, smart, high effort player 

•Prince Ibeh- Big XII DPOY, legit guarded all five positions at various times, unreal rim runner and defender 

•Jordan Barnett- shaka never used him but he absolutely could have should we have deployed havoc. 

you add kendal yancy and shaq claire to this mix and that’s a 10-deep rotation that can throw a ton of bodies at you, coming in high energy wave after high energy wave, pressing in all different manners, and trying to get out in transition.

now to be fair, we did just fine without switching to havoc after big cam’s injury, but i have always felt strongly that we would have been hell on wheels for opposing teams had we gone to what shaka knows best.

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1 hour ago, Derka said:

his hiring and the entire process behind his hiring was simply inexplicable. he announced publicly on day 1 that he would not be running havoc at Texas, that the Big XII was a different, more physical league, that he’d be recruiting a different caliber of player, and that he planned on playing a half court, inside-offense, which is exactly what he did that first season.

why the FUCK did we even hire a guy if his entire plan was to throw out everything that had made him successful in the first place, instead opting to try some whole new shit the very moment he joins the toughest league in america? fuck you steve patterson.

throughout his six long, miserable years here he tinkered with and changed the offense several times, but he never once even considered trying to run anything remotely in his wheelhouse. he figured it would be a better idea to recruit track and field athletes and then have them run an NBA offense predicated on playing five-out, lots of iso ball, and tons of three-point shooting. his recruiting philosophy diametrically opposed his basketball tactics, and made it to where roster retention and cohesion was impossible.

now he’s back in a lesser league, at a basketball school with an enormous budget, and he’s back to doing what got him the title of “hottest young coach in the game” in the first place. this fucking retard spent six years at Texas trying to be somebody he’s not, he squandered a plethora of top 8 national recruiting classes, he went 11-22 one year with a tourney level roster, and then he talked some fly shit on the way out the door about how he was happy to be at marquette “where they care about basketball” and “where the fans will show up.” never mind that this fucking loser was more concerned with hanging out at jester after dark than he was getting his fanbase involved at all.

fuck shaka smart, all day every day. don’t ever forget what that retard snake oil salesman did here (for the sake of all of us i’m not even going to rehash the completely fucked up mind games and abuses of trust he did with rick barnes leftover players), or how he essentially blacked Texas and our culture for his own failures here. that guy is some nice guy former coach who you should wish. fuck that dude. 

I fully believe he was trying to get to the NBA through Texas. Barnes/Durant had elevated Texas to Top 20 status. he could change his offense to attract NBA and no one would really question him.

I think that was always his goal.  

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god it would be so funny watching shaka try his early morning motivational text messages and incessant use of empty maxims and platitudes with a bunch of millionaire grown men who don’t respect him at all. i don’t think shaka would be having very many better tomorrows in the nba.

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2 hours ago, Derka said:

his hiring and the entire process behind his hiring was simply inexplicable. he announced publicly on day 1 that he would not be running havoc at Texas, that the Big XII was a different, more physical league, that he’d be recruiting a different caliber of player, and that he planned on playing a half court, inside-offense, which is exactly what he did that first season.

why the FUCK did we even hire a guy if his entire plan was to throw out everything that had made him successful in the first place, instead opting to try some whole new shit the very moment he joins the toughest league in america? fuck you steve patterson.

throughout his six long, miserable years here he tinkered with and changed the offense several times, but he never once even considered trying to run anything remotely in his wheelhouse. he figured it would be a better idea to recruit track and field athletes and then have them run an NBA offense predicated on playing five-out, lots of iso ball, and tons of three-point shooting. his recruiting philosophy diametrically opposed his basketball tactics, and made it to where roster retention and cohesion was impossible.

now he’s back in a lesser league, at a basketball school with an enormous budget, and he’s back to doing what got him the title of “hottest young coach in the game” in the first place. this fucking retard spent six years at Texas trying to be somebody he’s not, he squandered a plethora of top 8 national recruiting classes, he went 11-22 one year with a tourney level roster, and then he talked some fly shit on the way out the door about how he was happy to be at marquette “where they care about basketball” and “where the fans will show up.” never mind that this fucking loser was more concerned with hanging out at jester after dark than he was getting his fanbase involved at all.

fuck shaka smart, all day every day. don’t ever forget what that retard snake oil salesman did here (for the sake of all of us i’m not even going to rehash the completely fucked up mind games and abuses of trust he did with rick barnes leftover players), or how he essentially blacked Texas and our culture for his own failures here. that guy is some nice guy former coach who you should wish. fuck that dude. 

i got myself so riled up by the end of this post that my final paragraph is unintelligible, lmao. i’m out here like NEVER FORGET. NEVER FORGET!!! woo sah derka; woo sah.

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Shaka’s team that lost to ACU was really good. That loss was especially painful because both of my sisters went to ACU. They still give me shit about it and will likely have eternal scoreboard on me. Fooook!!!

I really think if we had won that game we might have made the Elite 8 or better. If we won, we play #45 KenPom UCLA. We win that game, then we play #23 KenPom BYU. That is also winnable. Boom Elite 8 game against Michigan (that only ended up beating UCLA by 2).

Matt Coleman was really good that year. And then we had 3 NBA front court players in Kai Jones, Jericho Sims and Greg Brown. Plus Courtney Ramey and a healthy Andrew Jones. That is a boat load of athleticism.

The previous year Shaka closed the year winning 5 of 6 before Covid ended the season. The year before that, Shaka won his last 5 in a row, winning the NIT. If he wins that game, we were making a run.

And if that happens, he might still be our coach.

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if we had a coach who demanded high iq players + accountability we’d be a top 25 team with a final four ceiling. very frustrating to watch our most talented roster in years just play the most terrible, brain dead, pick-up-at-the-park style of offense. the defense is good but our rebounding deficiencies negate a lot of that. just very frustrating. not enraging, because it’s not at all unexpected. still, very frustrating.

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