Houston Astros 2024 Season Thread

[UTPhil2006 3,795]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

We have no idea how the negotiations between Bregman and the Astros will go.

He gone 

[tx 3 putt 76,443]

resign bregman !!!!!!

[David Dennison 18,671]

I know who isn't playing 3B next year.

1 minute ago, UTPhil2006 said:

He gone 

No one knows that.

[Gourmand 7,774]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I know who isn't playing 3B next year.

No one knows that.

[Gourmand 7,774]

what a bullshit inning this is 

[tx 3 putt 76,443]

whitcomg going to cost us this game

[Honeysucklerose 960]

Let’s go Kikuchi

[tx 3 putt 76,443]

ugh 

[Honeysucklerose 960]

What a great inning for Bregman. Showing the Astros that Shay sucks

[David Dennison 18,671]

7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

whitcomg going to cost us this game

[UTPhil2006 3,795]

2 minutes ago, Honeysucklerose said:

What a great inning for Bregman. Showing the Astros that Shay sucks

My verbatim quote 

[Guadaloopy 10,927]

Chapman's 6/151 is the floor for Bregman.  Bregs is a year younger and compares favorably to Chapman across the board.  Would be a huge shift in tendencies for Crane to go for a contract like that.

Edited September 25 by Guadaloopy

[David Dennison 18,671]

8 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Chapman's 6/151 is the floor for Bregman.  Bregs is a year younger and compares favorably to Chapman across the board.  Would be a huge shift in tendencies for Crane to go for a contract like that.

I'm of the opinion that if someone Bregman's age can't work out a five year deal with his current team, he really doesn't want to be there anymore.

And that's OK.

[Honeysucklerose 960]

Shove that trident up your keister.

[Gourmand 7,774]

1 minute ago, Honeysucklerose said:

Shove that trident up your keister.

apparently this team doesn't want to send Seattle on an October vacation today.

Whitcomb cannot play third. jfc.

[David Dennison 18,671]

Yikes.

[Honeysucklerose 960]

That dude blows

[Gourmand 7,774]

That kid has the major yips. 

[Hornsbay22 463]

Just now, Gourmand said:

That kid has the major yips. 

How was he a minor league short stop?

[tx 3 putt 76,443]

has whitcomb ever played baseball before ?

[David Dennison 18,671]

This is hard to watch.

[Honeysucklerose 960]

Good grief!!! The ball is just finding him

[Gourmand 7,774]

Man, get him out of the game. He cannot play third base.

[Honeysucklerose 960]

I can laugh because we clinched yesterday

[Gourmand 7,774]

This is painful to watch. jeezus.

[Hornsbay22 463]

Ya Bregamns price keeps going up

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

Whitcomb would be benched at most TXHS baseball programs playing defense like that 

[Gourmand 7,774]

5 minutes ago, Honeysucklerose said:

I can laugh because we clinched yesterday

I still want Seattle eliminated asap. 

[Jshep34 2,304]

Breggy wants 10 year deal at 30 mill. No way is he going to settle for half of what he wants. Sure some team will come in with 7 to 8 year deal and that's where he will go.

[David Dennison 18,671]

Just now, Hornsbay22 said:

Ya Bregamns price keeps going up

And If Alex Bregman is OK with five years, I think he'll be back.

[Guadaloopy 10,927]

5 minutes ago, Jshep34 said:

Breggy wants 10 year deal at 30 mill. No way is he going to settle for half of what he wants. Sure some team will come in with 7 to 8 year deal and that's where he will go.

That's delusional.  He'll be 31 before the first year of that deal.  He's not a 28 yr-old just getting out from under team control.  That's the trade-off for getting paid during your arb years and extending early.

[David Dennison 18,671]

Is there anyone in this thread who would support signing Alex Bregman to a 7 year deal?

[Guadaloopy 10,927]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Is there anyone in this thread who would support signing Alex Bregman to a 7 year deal?

Depends on the amount.  7/170 sounds reasonable.  $27M yrs 1-5, $20M yr 6, $15M yr 7.

[David Dennison 18,671]

Just now, Guadaloopy said:

Depends on the amount.  7/170 sounds reasonable.  $27M yrs 1-5, $20M yr 6, $15M yr 7.

What do you think his production will be at 36 and 37?

[Gourmand 7,774]

Whitcomb is lucky he doesn't have 4 5 errors in the box score because that throw home trying to nail Rodriguez missed badly. 

Edited September 25 by Gourmand

[Gourmand 7,774]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What do you think his production will be at 36 and 37?

at least a few thousand units of unsold salsa

[Gourmand 7,774]

Whitcomb going out with a bang.

 

[Mo Horn 8,808]

Looks like Shay partied a little too much celebrating the division win. He might still be drunk. 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

4 errors in one game. Haha. 

[Gut Wagon 8,053]

7 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Looks like Shay partied a little too much celebrating the division win. He might still be drunk. 

Doesn't appear that Neris was the designated driver, either. 

[Mitch Hedberg 2,090]

Neris gave Julio a make up pitch for charging at him before.

[David Dennison 18,671]

The DGAF is strong.

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

Setting the record for most individual errors in a game in Astros history is an accomplishment 

[David Dennison 18,671]

Most satisfying loss of the season.

[tx 3 putt 76,443]

whitcomb could go on to a HoF career and the surly thread would still say he sucks 

[Guadaloopy 10,927]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What do you think his production will be at 36 and 37?

The numbers I proposed equate to a projection of ~20 WAR in first five years, 3 WAR in age 36 yr and 2.25 in age 37 yr.  

So far in his career, he has earned 39.4 WAR in the equivalent of 7 full seasons (accounting for partial rookie year, COVID year, and injury in 2021).  Over his 9 years with the MLB team, he produced $264M of value.  I know this isn't how this is calculated, but if the Astros offered a 7-year deal like I proposed, they are likely to still come out well ahead in the player value vs player contract calculation over the course of Bregman's career.  One could make the case that he's already earned ~$160M ( $264M value - $100M contract - 4 years of league minimum) of that $170M contract.  Again, no organization operates like this, but it's not an insane way to look at things.

Since 2021, he has averaged nearly 4.6 WAR/season - not up to his 2018 and 2019 production, but steady production over the past four seasons.  Outside of his two peak seasons, he has been remarkably consistent.  His compact swing and body type will likely hold up well.

I've always been a big Bregman fan and would love to keep him on the team, so I won't be one bit concerned if the Astros break tendency and pay him something like 7/170.   If someone else wants to pay him more for longer, more power to them and go get yours, Bregs.

 

[LCHorn 2,585]

45 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

What do you think his production will be at 36 and 37?

The last couple of years on most longer contracts are shitty anyway; I don’t know why that should be a hindrance.  
 

I’ve been moved into the “pay whatever the market requires” camp by the relative paucity of replacement candidates.  Particularly with a hole in LF, 1B, and ideally hunting an upgrade in CF.  

[perfectchaos007 6,596]

You never know when a player in their mid 30s hits that wall, but production tanks like a rock once it does. We saw that first hand this season with Jose Abreú

[kevwun 15,672]

You can't go in next season without a good 1B or 3B.  Pick one at least, but preferably both.

[David Dennison 18,671]

7 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

The last couple of years on most longer contracts are shitty anyway; I don’t know why that should be a hindrance.  
 

I’ve been moved into the “pay whatever the market requires” camp by the relative paucity of replacement candidates.  Particularly with a hole in LF, 1B, and ideally hunting an upgrade in CF.  

Because you don't want to be stuck paying for a player who is no longer productive.