immamac has permabanmed me against bob’s wishes. read this thread before it disappears.

[shadow_operative 15932]

the long and short of it is that bob has personally banned motownhorn three times in the last few weeks for coming after me. bob explicitly told motown that if he posted about me anymore he would be banned, and motown wouldn’t stop, so he kept getting banned. this was last wednesday:

that’s a text between me and bob. bob and i have been going out to eat, including dinners with my mom, to help out with the dynamic between me and shaggy. 

bob banned motownhorn for a month last wednesday and said that if he posted about me again he would be IP banned. immamac then lifted that ban without talking to bob, and tonight motown again came after me unprovoked, so i texted bob, expecting him to follow through. 

instead, i just got a PM from immamac telling ME to ignore motown or be permabanmed. 

fuck everything about this. i have gone so above and beyond to do my part to be a contributing member here, and immamac just doesn’t give a fuck. bob and i have been meeting and texting and working on all of this, we have made deals, deals where I have held up my end of the bargain, but immamac gives no fucks about any of this. it’s his site, so fuck bob, fuck me, fuck my mom, fuck everything we’ve been doing, immamac is lifting motown’s ban and permbanning me instead. that’s surly for you.

fuck immamac.

aggy fucking cunt.

[Js1 85257]

[Pam Cummings 9639]

[Zepol87 9185]

Pics of mom? 

[shadow_operative 15932]

i don’t give a fuck what anyone here thinks about me. all i do is try to contribute, and i don’t go out of my way to fuck with people. those are facts. bob promised a permaban for motown if he didn’t stop, after already having banned him three times in the last 2-3 weeks. and now i find myself permabanmed literally for saying, “that’s bullshit.” 

bob and i made a deal. bob also made a deal with motown. i kept up my end, while motown continued to obsess over me and incessantly talk shit to me. again, motown was banned three times in the last three weeks for this, and bob said motown would be gone if he did it again. well, he did it again, immamac overruled bob and is now banning me. 

fuck that. fuck surly. fuck immmac. this is hornfans 2.0. nobody here should be ok with this.

Edited April 5 by shadow_operative

[shadow_operative 15932]

4 minutes ago, Zepol87 said:

Pics of mom? 

meet the lovely lady who’s been taking time out of her real life to work with bob and her mentally ill son so that her sick, isolated, deteriorating son could have a place to talk hoops without being stalked and harassed:

 

[immamac 42832]

totally normal response to being told to ignore a poster and move on. Very healthy contribution to the community.

[shadow_operative 15932]

now her mentally ill som is being banned from this place for having the audacity to expect the site mods to keep their word.

in the words of augie garrido: you may have a lot in your life. i don’t.

this place is important to me. i shouldn’t have to be harrassed daily because some grown men are children, and when i work the the site mods and i do my part, they should do theirs. this is not cool or ok on any level. 

[HornOnTheBayou 8904]

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

totally normal response to being told to ignore a poster and move on. Very healthy contribution to the community.

Remove the banner across the top about this. You're just making it worse. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

totally normal response to being told to ignore a poster and move on. Very healthy contribution to the community.

what the hell else would you expect? i have spent months working with bob on this very issue, and i have done my part. i have done what bob asked, and in turn bob made promises, promises which you are overriding because you’re a stupid fucking cunt. this is my real life asshole. 

motown was not banned on a whim. he was banned for breaking direct orders from bob, over and over and over. you ate being so unbelievably disrespectful to bob it is insane. you are taking months of work between bob and me and saying, “fuck everything y’all have been doing, and fuck you and your mod decisions bob. my site, my rules.” you’re a real life piece of shit.

Edited April 5 by shadow_operative

[BrickHorn 18214]

15 minutes ago, shadow_operative said:

the long and short of it is that bob has personally banned motownhorn three times in the last few weeks for coming after me. bob explicitly told motown that if he posted about me anymore he would be banned, and motown wouldn’t stop, so he kept getting banned. this was last wednesday:

that’s a text between me and bob. bob and i have been going out to eat, including dinners with my mom, to help out with the dynamic between me and shaggy. 

bob banned motownhorn for a month last wednesday and said that if he posted about me again he would be IP banned. immamac then lifted that ban without talking to bob, and tonight motown again came after me unprovoked, so i texted bob, expecting him to follow through. 

instead, i just got a PM from immamac telling ME to ignore motown or be permabanmed. 

fuck everything about this. i have gone so above and beyond to do my part to be a contributing member here, and immamac just doesn’t give a fuck. bob and i have been meeting and texting and working on all of this, we have made deals, deals where I have held up my end of the bargain, but immamac gives no fucks about any of this. it’s his site, so fuck bob, fuck me, fuck my mom, fuck everything we’ve been doing, immamac is lifting motown’s ban and permbanning me instead. that’s surly for you.

fuck immamac.

aggy fucking cunt.

PM Derka

[shadow_operative 15932]

1 minute ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Remove the banner across the top about this. You're just making it worse. 

keep it there. i want people to read this. ain’t no way i come out looking worse than immamac. this is the definition of gaslighting. 

[ConferenceRoom 6141]

6 minutes ago, immamac said:

totally normal response to being told to ignore a poster and move on. Very healthy contribution to the community.

Gaslighting sucks, man. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

i’m working with bob in real life, i’m texting him daily, i am doing my part and ignoring motown, i am told that motown is on the verge of an IP ban because of this, and then immamac steps in, undoes everything, lifts motown’s ban, endorses his harassment of me, tells me i’m going to be permabanned, and then makes it the site headline like it’s all one big joke. what a piece of shit. just unreal.

[gsoda3 3245]

derka's got receipts.  come on imma.

[shadow_operative 15932]

1 minute ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Gaslighting sucks, man. 

thank you. i just said the same thing. 

[Biff Tannen 45660]

[Firemans4Horn 18033]

Take care of yourself Derka. 
 

Not sure why the conspiracy theory loving Aggy feels the need to be such an antagonist. 

[ChiTownDoc 21133]

I manifested this thread.  
 

 

[hobbes2702 13028]

We should have a new forum that is entirely for internet slap fights 

[CycleTex87 2964]

Dude.

[Prepuce of Doom 21052]

This all sucks for multiple reasons. 

[jeevsie 3733]

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[ztejas 43411]

[immamac 42832]

If you have a problem with a poster, put them on ignore. If you escalate to the moderators the policy is you can use the ignore function or leave the community. 

[mulletpelini 5210]

Does this mean we're getting the band back together?

Edited April 5 by mulletpelini
this is like a fucking time machine back to 2011, 2012, 2013....

[StassneyHorn 6573]

Seems like a shitty exchange, is there a reason Bob or Immamac just can’t default your profile to ignore him if you won’t do it?

I don’t pay attention to it, but if you’re waiting for someone on the internet to change who they are (Motown), you’ll be waiting awhile.

[shadow_operative 15932]

i spend 99% of my time on this forum on the hoops board, the baseball board, and the arsenal thread, and 99% of the people who also post in those places don’t have any huge problem with me. we all get along just fine. i have worked extremely hard to change myself for the better, and i’m proud of how much i’ve changed. i am not the guy i was back in 2008-09, and i do not deserve this. if i’m not fucking with you then just leave me alone and don’t fuck with me. it’s not a lot to ask.

[immamac 42832]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

Seems like a shitty exchange, is there a reason Bob or Immamac just can’t default your profile to ignore him if you won’t do it?

I don’t pay attention to it, but if you’re waiting for someone on the internet to change who they are (Motown), you’ll be waiting awhile.

Without getting into it this was the option. "do it, I'll do it for you, or leave"

[Hate 20106]

Wait...if you are perma banned how are you posting? To be clear, I think a Surly w/Derka is better than a Derka free site, but I also see too many of these types of threads. 

[gsoda3 3245]

Without getting into it this was the option. "do it, I'll do it for you, or leave"

Except according to screenshots, those weren't the options Bob gave him.

[mulletpelini 5210]

also, Derka, you've aged like fine Boone's farm.

[shadow_operative 15932]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

If you have a problem with a poster, put them on ignore. If you escalate to the moderators the policy is you can use the ignore function or leave the community. 

 bullshit. i’m not going to keep repeating over and over about how bob, myself, and my mom have been working on this very issue for months, including daily texts between me and bob. bob and i made deals, deals which you have undone in one fell swoop, in the most callous, power thirty, pathetic way possible. 

how do you not get how disrespectful this is to everyone involved, including bob? he can’t do his moderator job on his own? you just get to undo months of me working with him and months of him giving orders to motown? you really don’t see what an epic, gaping asshole you are, do you?

[immamac 42832]

1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Without getting into it this was the option. "do it, I'll do it for you, or leave"

Except according to screenshots, those weren't the options Bob gave him.

that's bob's problem now isn't it? 

[hornian 5210]

1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Without getting into it this was the option. "do it, I'll do it for you, or leave"

Except according to screenshots, those weren't the options Bob gave him.

Except, according to your quote, you weren't replying to Bob. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

1 minute ago, Hate said:

Wait...if you are perma banned how are you posting? To be clear, I think a Surly w/Derka is better than a Derka free site, but I also see too many of these types of threads. 

because immamac wants a show. he told me to put motown on ignore or be permabanned, and i told him to go fuck himself. i’m not putting motown on ignore because that is not the deal that was made between me and bob. 

what is even the point of me putting motown on ignore? what does it change? i don’t respond to any of his baiting bullshit. ever. that’s the deal that bob and i made. i won’t post at him, he won’t post at me. since that deal was made motown has been banned three times, and i never once made a post to or about him during that time. so what is even the point? it’s literally just immamac being a cunt.

[gsoda3 3245]

that's bob's problem now isn't it? 

Except, according to your quote, you weren't replying to Bob. 

Having the moderators be on the same page when it comes to a permaban is pretty important don't you think?

[immamac 42832]

1 minute ago, shadow_operative said:

because immamac wants a show.  he told me to put motown on ignore or be permabanned, and i told him to go fuck himself . i’m not putting motown on ignore because that is not the deal that was made between me and bob. 

what is even the point of me putting motown on ignore? what does it change? i don’t respond to any of his baiting bullshit. ever. that’s the deal that bob and i made. i won’t post at him, he won’t post at me. since that deal was made motown has been banned three times, and i never once made a post to or about him during that time. so what is even the point? it’s literally just immamac being a cunt.

Accurate.

[Pato del Muerto 52484]

You text with blacklab every day?  And have your mom involved?  Because Motown is being a dick?

[shadow_operative 15932]

bob told me to put motown on ignore a long time ago, after we had started working together on this issue. i told bob, “im not going to put him on ignore, because when he inevitably posts to/about me i want to see it so that i can report it to you. with that said i will not reply to anything he says about me, or anything else for that matter.” that’s how motown kept getting banned- i kept seeing him posting about me, and w dry time if report it to bob and bob would handle it.

that was the deal. i held up my part. motown got banned three times. tonight was supposed to be ban number four, the permanent ban. instead, i am now apparently facing a permanent ban, all because i am upset with the fact that immamac has swooped in and undone everything we’ve been working on.

[shadow_operative 15932]

1 minute ago, immamac said:

Accurate.

Bob told motown to put me on ignore months ago, and has banned him three (should be four) times in the last few weeks because motown could not stop coming after me. during that entire period do you know how many times i posted to/about motown? ZERO, asshole! so what is the fucking purpose of me putting him on ignore in the first fucking place? it’s just you stroking your weak ass ego.

[Firemans4Horn 18033]

toggle on/

Just put him on ignore. I have you and about 10 other blabbering people on ignore in the basketball forum.  You don’t need adult day care because someone disagrees with you on a college sports message board 

toggle off/

[hornian 5210]

1 minute ago, gsoda3 said:

Having the moderators be on the same page when it comes to a permaban is pretty important don't you think?

Moderator does not equal site owner. 

Here's the way I see it: I can give a client advice about what I think a judge will do based on certain facts, but ultimately, when I go to court, it's up to what a judge thinks about those facts that matters. 

So a moderator can give a poster advice about not getting banned, but ultimately, when it comes to permabans, it's up to what the site owner thinks about a poster's behavior that matters. 

Ultimately, the buck stops with immamac. I can live with that. If I didn't want to, I would leave. 

 

[shadow_operative 15932]

7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

You text with blacklab every day?  And have your mom involved?  Because Motown is being a dick?

motown has been coming after me like an asshole for forever, and one time when i was in a particular bad/suicidal place and motown would not leave me alone i told motown that i was going to name him in my suicide letter. that is when bob, my mom, and myself started going out to eat.

you see bob didn’t want to watch another loree situation unfold on his watch. that’s what he told me the very first time we met. he saw how this was affecting my mental health and he wanted to help. over that time i have shown bob that i do not go after other people, that they come after me, with motown continuing to be the worst offender. bob has expressed absolute shock at motown’s inability to leave me alone. bob has been helping with this situation since then.

bob wants to prevent another loree situation from happening; immamac wants to feel powerful, stroke his tiny ego, and make a big joke/sideshow out of all of this. what a huge piece of shit he is. 

Edited April 5 by shadow_operative

[Hate 20106]

I have to agree.  Just put him on ignore.  If no other posters begin to pile on, then you'll never even know.  It's not worth it. 

[shadow_operative 15932]

8 minutes ago, Hate said:

I have to agree.  Just put him on ignore.  If no other posters begin to pile on, then you'll never even know.  It's not worth it. 

bob told me that motown would be permabanned if he spoke to/about me one more time. i have been diligently doing my part over a long time to ensure that that happens. i wanted motown gone, motown was given the rules to follow to prevent that, and he continually broke the rules, to the tune of a 48 hour ban, followed by a five day ban, followed by a month long ban with the promise of a permanent ban if he ever says anything to/about me again.

tonight it happened. tonight motown AGAIN came after me totally unprovoked. you have no idea how stoked i was when that happened. he was finally going to be gone. five minutes later i’ve got immamac cursing me out in my inbox telling me to put motown on ignore (again, why?) or be permabanned myself. there is not a single person here who, if they were in my shoes, would find this, “yeah just put him on ignore” solution even remotely acceptable.

Edited April 5 by shadow_operative

[StassneyHorn 6573]

I think derka should make a deal with the Surly CR librul cabal to neg spree every time Motown acts up

[gsoda3 3245]

Moderator does not equal site owner. 
Here's the way I see it: I can give a client advice about what I think a judge will do based on certain facts, but ultimately, when I go to court, it's up to what a judge thinks about those facts that matters. 
So a moderator can give a poster advice about not getting banned, but ultimately, when it comes to permabans, it's up to what the site owner thinks about a poster's behavior that matters. 
Ultimately, the buck stops with immamac. I can live with that. If I didn't want to, I would leave. 
 

This is an Internet message board populated initially and mostly by longhorn alumni. It's not a court of law refereeing disputes against codified legislative standards. One would hope common sense and decency would prevail when a moderator, who is the only reason the current site owner even owns the site, makes a well-documented agreement between two posters without having the owner hamfistedly smashing the agreement with his collie pawed gavel.

[Rimbo 25908]

@shadow_operative -- just put the fucker on ignore already.

@immamac -- you're being a dickhead about this.

Both of you grow the fuck up.

[immamac 42832]

Now I'm not allowed to be a dickhead? Seems kinda fucked up. Maybe I should go start my own site...