immamac has permabanmed me against bob’s wishes. read this thread before it disappears.

[Gatorubet 30238]

10 minutes ago, Hank Scorpio said:

Everyone treats Derka like shit and then freaks out when he blows up and then we do the same thing all over again. Let’s all just calm down. What I’m trying to say is that Derka is Hamas and Surly is Israel. And I support Hamas. That came out wrong but the point stands. 

[SydneyCarton 48106]

Was linked to this thread today. 

Derka shouldn't be permabaned. I realize who he is as a poster, and as a person, and I understand the viewpoint that someone who apparently has a mental illness to the point that he can't even put a poster on ignore shouldn't be on a webstie like this one...it's not a post without merit. And if I'm Immamac, who deals with so much thankless bullshit for this site becuase he also loves it, I can totally understand where he's coming from, and this decision. Does/Has Derka get special treatment? Maybe. And maybe he should get special treatment, becuase as other posters have said this board means a lot more to him than it probably does, or even CAN for the rest of us. The guy has been with us for 20 years, and he does create content instead of drive by bullshit, and there is 100% a contingent of motherfuckers on this site who bullies him. And honestly maybe we can give him special treatment because we know Derka has problems, we know how little he has and that so much of it is this community, and because that's who we can be as a community. 

Sometimes online, even when you CAN defend yourself online and the wannabe bullies and cowards can't handle it, then the just try new and other ways to be bullies and pieces of shit and fuck with your life. And that's what a lot of bullies do, they don't like you or what you say so they find some other way to attack you, usually becuase their own lives are such worthless pieces of shit. I know a little but about that personally. They can't handle you with their own posts, so they'll try another way to fuck with your life. Unfortunately for Derka, a chunk of this community is his life, and it's pretty easy for people online to fuck with his life as a result. 

I'm sad to see him go. And for everyone who said he's a cancer, who whined about him not just hitting ignore and learning to grow up, that's a fucking two way street. Any of you could have put him on ignore at any point and been the non-mentally ill adult in the room. Or could you?

Thanks for your patience, @immamac. You do a ton for this community because you also love it, and many just don't recognize it. 

Edited April 10 by SydneyCarton

[MotownHorn 1762]

I agree with everything posted above except for calling me a "bully." I went out of my way to NOT bully the guy. 

Also blacklabs never told me all that stuff Derka says he told me. He would just suspend me out of nowhere with a nasty message I couldn't even respond to. No one ever said anything to me about an IP ban or anything else.

Every time blacklabs would say something to me like "Derka doesn't like you using the phrase tourney dynamo to mock Chris Beard" I would say "ok I will not use that phrase if that bothers him. Even though that's ridiculous." I did my best to NOT torment or bully him.

In the last 6 to 12 months there's been tons of posters who have been a lot ruder to Derka than I was. For whatever reason he got it in his head that I was his big enemy and focused on me.

This apparent deal he had with blacklabs to try to get me banned did not serve him well IMO. It just made him fixate on me and make up this big battle in his head where he was going to emerge as King of the Message Board.

I think blacklabs had Derka's best interest at heart, and was trying to help, but turning it into a game to get me banned was not helpful. It fed into his problem instead of helping solve it.

I truly feel bad he's banned and I hope he is well. I'm not his enemy or bully. I'm just a guy who had a different opinion than him.

[MotownHorn 1762]

Here are the posts that Derka reported to get me suspended and try to get me banned. I'll let you all decide if they are bullying him.

1) 

 

2) I will admit this one is not ideal, but I don't think it's really bullying

 3) 

4) this is the post that was apparently so bad I deserved to be IP banned

 

 

 

Edited April 10 by MotownHorn

[Herbie Hancock 7347]

Blacklab*. Not plural. Only one.

[MotownHorn 1762]

You can also look at posts 2073 and 2076 in the fire RT thread

I add a disclaimer to post 2073 so Derka didn't feel like I was attacking him personally. Post 2076 is a long rant calling my opinion "stupid" and a "joke." I did not reply to Derka's rude response to my post because I did not want to upset him. I did that dozens of times in the last few months. He'd attack me directly, I'd ignore it.

I swear to God I was trying to deescalate any conflict with the guy. I tried to post supportive messages to him etc.

I can't control that Derka got it in his head that I was his big enemy and he was really gonna get me good by working with blacklabs to get me permabanned.

I wish I understood earlier that I could put him on ignore and still see the threads he started. That may have avoided the whole thing. 

It's all very silly and stupid. Again, I apologize to Derka, the mods, and the boards for my role in this matter. 

[MotownHorn 1762]

If you read someone of Derka's posts in this thread he literally says "Motown Horn would say nice things to me, but he didn't mean them!"

How the fuck would he know if I meant it or not? He doesn't know me. I definitely meant it. I wish the guy no ill will and I'm sincerely worried about him now.

Again he got it in his head that I was his big enemy despite the fact that I tried to ignore him, be nice to him, and deescalate things with him.

[TonyTexas 10512]

Wasn’t Motown complaining that Derka just couldn’t let stuff go? Fucking hypocrite. And very cowardly to pile on now that he can’t respond  

 

[Chewbacca 7777]

14 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

If you read someone of Derka's posts in this thread he literally says "Motown Horn would say nice things to me, but he didn't mean them!"

How the fuck would he know if I meant it or not? He doesn't know me. I definitely meant it. I wish the guy no ill will and I'm sincerely worried about him now.

Again he got it in his head that I was his big enemy despite the fact that I tried to ignore him, be nice to him, and deescalate things with him.

Dude, you already won.  He's banned.  So fuck off and shut up.

[MotownHorn 1762]

I wasn’t trying to “win.” That’s the main difference between the two of us here 

[Chewbacca 7777]

11 minutes ago, MotownHorn said:

I wasn’t trying to “win.” That’s the main difference between the two of us here 

You sure are doing a lot of explaining and showing your side of things for someone who isn't trying to win.  

[MotownHorn 1762]

I don’t like being called a bully

I didn’t post any of this stuff while Derka was still here in order to avoid antagonizing him 

[HornOnTheBayou 8922]

[Chewbacca 7777]

2 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Remember, Derka's the one that can't let things go.

[SydneyCarton 48106]

[MotownHorn 1762]

If anything Derka was bullying me. Not the other way around

I’ll leave it at that and fuck off now 

[immamac 42850]

There seems to be some massive confusion on why Derka is no longer invited to be a part of the community. Also @MotownHorn this thread has nothing to do with you so just fuck off from it please. 

I'm open and have discussion and leave threads like this up because I think that's important for transparency. What I am not doing is posting screenshots, text messages and everything else going on behind the scenes that isn't in this thread. What you saw in this thread and the level of aggression, flat out disrespect and admitted non-compliance from Derka was already enough, what wasn't posted was beyond and that's all I'm going to say about it.

This is final and it is not open for discussion. 

[TonyTexas 10512]

28 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

Dude, you already won.  He's banned.  So fuck off and shut up.

This was a lose-lose situation  Derka lost by getting banned. And Motown has shown that he is simply a loser. 

[RDCanecutter 26442]

On 4/9/2024 at 8:33 AM, ztejas said:

I seriously wonder how some of you dress yourselves in the morning. 

Joke's on you, Gotta-have-clothes Boy.

[mchookem 16335]

[Post Oak 20213]

So is shadow operative 2.0 banned too

[G650 14256]

Motown going full Derka up in here

[immamac 42850]

8 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

So is shadow operative 2.0 banned too

No, but spystud and ss13 were banned for the same reason. @shadow_operative2.0 has figured out a balance of portraying his contempt without being out of bounds.

[Underdog 28631]

Pretty sure I saw a Shadow_Operative 33 1/3 posting the other day. 

[Hank Scorpio 17729]

Was Futureman banned? I have him on ignore but if we’re just tossing out bans let’s do some good. 

[troph 24796]

@MotownHorn your piling on is horseshit. If this was my place you’d be gone too. 
 

I can’t blame imma for banning Derka, I’d like to hope I would do it different but he wasn’t coming at me. So walk a mile and all of that. I’ll let it go for those reasons and then some.

But for Motown to stay silent and then pile on after Derka is gone? That’s the definition of a bitch move. 
 

 

Edited April 11 by troph

[TonyTexas 10512]

53 minutes ago, immamac said:

No, but spystud and ss13 were banned for the same reason. @shadow_operative2.0 has figured out a balance of portraying his contempt without being out of bounds.

 

[Pam Cummings 9641]

Lol, I like how the guy is asking "how is my going out of my way to say stuff that I know for a fact will bother a specific poster bullying?" 

 

We all have our opinions on the Beard situation. Derka especially was very upset about what happened. His favorite sport was in prime position with what seemed like the perfect coach and it was all ripped away. He obviously had a hard time processing that Beard's dumb ass did it to himself. And he isn't the only one who has doubts about Terry either. But the things you posted weren't legit criticisms of Beard or legit defense of Terry. You posted the things you did specifically to rile him up and you know it.

Edited April 11 by Pam Cummings

[Rimbo 25933]

[NorthLoop 14203]

[Neonmoon 38129]

The majority of people complaining about poster XYZ are too stubborn or masochistic to use the ignore function. They enjoy engaging with the poster that riles them up, makes them mad, frustrates them, etc. No matter how much they complain about how ignorant, mean, or annoying the poster is being. If you continue to engage for years and years, you enjoy it.

[South Austin 52500]

This thread shows that even in death there is Derka.

[burntorangebongos 10710]

On 4/7/2024 at 5:43 PM, MotownHorn said:

My last post in this thread

Derka acts like I was going nuts personally bullying him. I was not. He was reporting anything I posted that was tangentially related to him to blacklabs.

The post that apparently was going to get me banned was him saying that there’s no examples of mens coaches acting like Kim Mulkey and getting away with it with little criticism. I said “ever heard of Chris Beard?” That’s it. That’s all I posted. 

Thats not a bullying attack on Derka. Thats a valid and relevant example of an asshole male coach who doesn’t get criticized like she does. I didn’t insult him, attack him, call him a name, etc. I simply disagreed with him.

Before I knew of Derkas issues I 100% was a jerk to him. For that I apologize for a 2nd time today. But I promise I have been bending over backwards to not trigger him for at least a year now. 

The last post on the last page by KaiserSoze summarizes my perspective on the situation very well.

I truly feel bad about this matter. I apologize to the guy. I promise to keep him on ignore and not badmouth him.

I encourage him to simply hit the ignore button and never be bothered by my posts again. Maybe if he does that, takes responsibility for his behavior, and nicely apooogizes to immamac then imma will let him stay on the board. 

Blacklabs clearly wants to help Derka. I honestly do too. But he also has to help himself by taking responsibility for his behavior. 

That’s my final post on the matter. I find it all sad and silly and regrettable. My apologies for my role in it. 

I don't post where you and Derka do, but this sounds like the  husband that is a wife beater, gets caught by the police, and tells his side which is so reasonable after beating the shit out of her a few hours before. I doubt that blacklab would ban you for such posts. He isn't a dumb man, nor that unfair.  Hey, congrats wife beater, you got Derka banned.

[SydneyCarton 48106]

30 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

I don't post where you and Derka do, but this sounds like the  husband that is a wife beater, gets caught by the police, and tells his side which is so reasonable after beating the shit out of her a few hours before. I doubt that blacklab would ban you for such posts. He isn't a dumb man, nor that unfair.  Hey, congrats wife beater, you got Derka banned.

Great analysis. I don't post much in those places either, but even I know that guy has been following Derka around and trying to trigger him for fucking years, and now he wants to show up here and gaslight everyone else becuase he takes exception to being called a bully, apparently. 

[RDCanecutter 26442]

Best wishes, Derka.

[henrygandorf 29191]

5 hours ago, South Austin said:

This thread shows that even in death there is Derka.

if you strike down derka, he shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

good luck with that.

[Baboontyme 2812]

Well I could have gone to the gym today. Instead I found this thread. This sucks.

[South Austin 52500]

57 minutes ago, Baboontyme said:

Well I could have gone to the gym today. Instead I found this thread. This sucks.

Don't beat yourself up.  Derka threads can burn lots of calories.

[Neonmoon 38129]

1 hour ago, Baboontyme said:

Well I could have gone to the gym today. Instead I found this thread. This sucks.

[Gatorubet 30238]

1 hour ago, Baboontyme said:

Well I could have gone to the gym today. Instead I found this thread. This sucks.

I was about to train for a half marathon this morning, but when I staggered into the kitchen I found a half eaten doughnut from last night. 

It’s really weird how that happens almost every day. 

[South Austin 52500]

9 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I was about to train for a half marathon this morning, but when I staggered into the kitchen I found a half eaten doughnut from last night. 

[Guadaloopy 10970]

The Baseball Forum is less without him.  I'll have to start paying attention to Jose Ramirez on my own now.  Thank God we still have Gil Bang to monitor Shohei for us.

[NoName 16351]

man, Motown sure cares a lot for a guy who has repeatedly said he didn't care, this would be his last post in the thread - no THIS would be his last post in the thread - no THIS would be his last post in the thread, and who went into the situation knowing who and what he was dealing with.

if anyone didn't see his true stripes before, they most certainly have now.

fuck that guy

[SydneyCarton 48106]

1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

I was about to train for a half marathon this morning, but when I staggered into the kitchen I found a half eaten doughnut from last night. 

It’s really weird how that happens almost every day. 

Who the fuck eats half a donut? And then who the fuck eats half a donut, and then just leaves it out?

[Gatorubet 30238]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Who the fuck eats half a donut? And then who the fuck eats half a donut, and then just leaves it out?

Did I say that? DID I SAY THAT!???

No, I never said I ate half of that donut and left it out, only to eat it later….or said I put on the Barry White 8 Track and made sweet, sweet, non-GMO love to the other half that is now tantalizingly lower than a living human’s temperature…No!!

I hope you know the old saying - when you ASSUME something you make…a mess…. of bad assuming junk….?

 

 

[Covri 6249]

2 hours ago, NoName said:

man, Motown sure cares a lot for a guy who has repeatedly said he didn't care, this would be his last post in the thread - no THIS would be his last post in the thread - no THIS would be his last post in the thread, and who went into the situation knowing who and what he was dealing with.

if anyone didn't see his true stripes before, they most certainly have now.

fuck that guy

[Serak The Preparer 3431]

I don't particularly give one shit or another about @MotownHorn but it seems to be poor form to keep discussing him in this thread when @immamac has expressly told him not to continue posting in it. Start a new thread about how much motownhorn sucks if you want, otherwise it's some cowardly shit to insult a poster who's not allowed to respond.

[EE2B 1565]

On 4/10/2024 at 3:26 PM, Herbie Hancock said:

Blacklab*. Not plural. Only one.

Bleklab*

[mulletpelini 5211]

What the fuck has this become, a fucking counseling session?

This is Imamacs garage, park here at your own risk.  If you don't feel safe parking here, park somewhere else. If he doesn't like you parked here, he'll have you towed.  

Man the fuck up or shut the fuck up.  

Pussies.

Edited April 12 by mulletpelini
mean words on screen hurt my feewings

[TonyTexas 10512]

56 minutes ago, Serak The Preparer said:

I don't particularly give one shit or another about @MotownHorn but it seems to be poor form to keep discussing him in this thread when @immamac has expressly told him not to continue posting in it. Start a new thread about how much motownhorn sucks if you want, otherwise it's some cowardly shit to insult a poster who's not allowed to respond.

Like Motown did repeatedly yesterday after Derka’s banning? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander