Iran attacks Israel attacks Iran

[InkaUtexas 25307]

5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

That never made any sense - what's the point of coming off the bench if you're not going to hurt players on the other team? You literally have sharp cleats on your feet and baseball bats at your disposal.

It happens.

[cmontexas 3237]

Tell that to Champ Summers

 

 

 

Edited April 20 by cmontexas

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[956 Worldwide 34247]

I get so hard seeing S-300s get blown the fuck up.  
 

[immamac 42408]

shit is bad.

Iran’s Leader Orders Attack on Israel for Haniyeh Killing, Officials Say - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Iran going to attack Israel, probably for real this time.

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

shit is bad.

Iran’s Leader Orders Attack on Israel for Haniyeh Killing, Officials Say - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Iran going to attack Israel, probably for real this time.

Don’t want it to spiral out of control, but if some Iranian drone and missile factories get obliterated, that would benefit multiple countries.

[immamac 42408]

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Don’t want it to spiral out of control, but if some Iranian drone and missile factories get obliterated, that would benefit multiple countries.

I mean this is kinda fucking crazy shit. Is israel really wanting to start this shit? we can't support them against Iran, they fucking started it they need to handle their own shit. No one asked them to assassinate these dudes.

[Hate 20098]

Is Israel really going to need our help against Iran?

[Brisketexan 104255]

4 minutes ago, Hate said:

Is Israel really going to need our help against Iran?

For air defense?  Quite possibly.

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6 minutes ago, immamac said:

I mean this is kinda fucking crazy shit. Is israel really wanting to start this shit? we can't support them against Iran, they fucking started it they need to handle their own shit. No one asked them to assassinate these dudes.

5 minutes ago, Hate said:

Is Israel really going to need our help against Iran?

If they truly killed that guy in Tehran in a missile/air strike, then I think they have it covered.

In theory, if Serious Shit started, and Israel took out some of their specific top leaders, there’s plenty of Iranians still bitter over the deaths and protests from the past year, that could nudge things into a revolution.  

[InkaUtexas 25307]

7 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

For air defense?  Quite possibly.

Not sure. We helped in a big way the first go around, but the IAF restrained from hitting launch sites and airfields. I doubt they will the next time. Once those are gone hard to operate for Iran.

[Brisketexan 104255]

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Not sure. We helped in a big way the first go around, but the IAF restrained from hitting launch sites and airfields. I doubt they will the next time. Once those are gone hard to operate for Iran.

Yep.  Which is why Iran needs to launch an "everything, all at once" attack wave.  Of course, their NEXT move after doing that is the really interesting one....

[InkaUtexas 25307]

2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  Which is why Iran needs to launch an "everything, all at once" attack wave.  Of course, their NEXT move after doing that is the really interesting one....

I think they start hitting soft Israeli targets around the globe like they did in Buenos Aires.

[Brisketexan 104255]

Just now, InkaUtexas said:

I think they start hitting soft Israeli targets around the globe like they did in Buenos Aires.

Probably.  But I don't know how well-prepped their network to do that is these days.  They've been pretty focused on fucking with Israel in the region (Gaza, Lebanon, Syria).  Haven't had the need (or perhaps even the resources) to develop many resources and networks in the rest of the world.

[InkaUtexas 25307]

Everyone I have talked to thinks it is there. Sleeper cells rarely go away. And Iran has a lot of proxy groups they can use. There is a strong Palestianian population in the EU and Latin America.

I think they did not do more because they did not want to piss off countries. Now they may not care.

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10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  Which is why Iran needs to launch an "everything, all at once" attack wave.  Of course, their NEXT move after doing that is the really interesting one....

How much of the good stuff have they sold to Russia though?

1 minute ago, InkaUtexas said:

Everyone I have talked to thinks it is there. Sleeper cells rarely go away. And Iran has a lot of proxy groups they can use. There is a strong Palestianian population in the EU and Latin America.

I think they did not do more because they did not want to piss off countries. Now they may not care.

They have to thread the needle and not fuck around with NATO.  Smashing Iran hard would hurt Russia in Ukraine.

[InkaUtexas 25307]

EU won't attack them for terrorism. Just more sanctions.

[Brisketexan 104255]

9 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

Everyone I have talked to thinks it is there. Sleeper cells rarely go away. And Iran has a lot of proxy groups they can use. There is a strong Palestianian population in the EU and Latin America.

I think they did not do more because they did not want to piss off countries. Now they may not care.

I think your second sentence has something to it for sure.  I can see multiple other countries being sick of Iran's shit, and hitting Iran where it hurts (I bet even Argentina could sink an Iranian tanker somewhere).

[AUS-97HORN 11645]

it may be an odd way that  non-nuclear WW3 ends up kicking off where a fuckload of the combatants arent fighting in a coalition, instead they are kicking off against their old enemies.

Israel v Iran. 

Israel v Syria. 

Azerbajian v Armenia & Iran

Turkey v Iran & Syria

Pakistan v Iran

India v Pakistan

China v India

Ukr v Russia 

Poland v Russia

Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Finland v Russia

 

and thats not including Greece and Turkey popping off against each other again, nor does it include the US... which would obviously be dealing with Russia due to article 5 even if Russia didnt initiate the attacks. 

[Brisketexan 104255]

10 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

it may be an odd way that  non-nuclear WW3 ends up kicking off where a fuckload of the combatants arent fighting in a coalition, instead they are kicking off against their old enemies.

Israel v Iran. 

Israel v Syria. 

Azerbajian v Armenia & Iran

Turkey v Iran & Syria

Pakistan v Iran

India v Pakistan

China v India

Ukr v Russia 

Poland v Russia

Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Finland v Russia

 

and thats not including Greece and Turkey popping off against each other again, nor does it include the US... which would obviously be dealing with Russia due to article 5 even if Russia didnt initiate the attacks. 

Russia has more than enough on its plate right now.  It wants 0.0 servings of the Baltics or Poland.  Russia would simultaneously puke/shit/lose.

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More and more indicators that the hit on Hamas’ leader was carried out by an F-35 although we will likely not get full confirmation anytime soon.  A reminder that Iran has invested heavily in air defense and operates S-300s.

My penis can only get so erect that our gear can be this lethal and unstoppable against a hugely high value target and a nation that’s invested in stopping us. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I think your second sentence has something to it for sure.  I can see multiple other countries being sick of Iran's shit, and hitting Iran where it hurts (I bet even Argentina could sink an Iranian tanker somewhere).

 

I spoke with a strategic command guy late last year and he said he was more concerned about sleeper cells than Russia. What was worrisome is that he sounded like he had intelligence.

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[atomheartbevo 89306]

2 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

it may be an odd way that  non-nuclear WW3 ends up kicking off where a fuckload of the combatants arent fighting in a coalition, instead they are kicking off against their old enemies.

Israel v Iran. 

Israel v Syria. 

Azerbajian v Armenia & Iran

Turkey v Iran & Syria

Pakistan v Iran

India v Pakistan

China v India

Ukr v Russia 

Poland v Russia

Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Finland v Russia

 

and thats not including Greece and Turkey popping off against each other again, nor does it include the US... which would obviously be dealing with Russia due to article 5 even if Russia didnt initiate the attacks. 

China would like some real estate back from Russia.

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I think that the chances of Iran allowing their retaliation to be direct and lead to war are quite low. One of the salutary effects of these types of things is to hammer home to Iran and the proxies it protects just how shitty Iran is at war and security. 
 

It’s clear that Iran is woefully compromised by Mossad intelligence and very likely that it can’t even minimally protect its airspace. The recent strikes on Yemen’s ports are in any case a powerful reminder of Israel’s long range strike capability is, regardless of how a munition got delivered to the window of the Ayatollah’s most honored guest.

The Iranian regime is not irrational or suicidal.  One of the primary benefits of using the Houthis and Hamas and Hezbollah against Israel is to direct these exquisite capabilities against targets that are invulnerable to them because they are worthless.  These little petty rulers of wastelands have nothing of value to attack, just an endless supply of angry young men ready to replace the last angry young man. 
 

But Tehran has a lot to protect indeed, like nuclear sites and weapons manufacturing facilities and infrastructure and their own hides. It is not lost on them that they are going to come out very, very badly in an actual and not proxy war against Israel, although little reminders like this do help the bolder among them to ponder things out.  
 

Now, they may absolutely get to the point where they’re willing to accept a lot more Lebanese dying.  But how is Hezbollah now feeling about the bully who said has their back? I’d expect some symbolic stuff that’s designed to fail and then for Iran to go back to barking. 

[Anastasis 23332]

NYT reporting that the bomb was planted in the guesthouse months ago and remotely detonated. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/01/world/middleeast/how-hamas-leader-haniyeh-killed-iran-bomb.html?

 

Ismail Haniyeh, a top leader of Hamas, was assassinated on Wednesday by an explosive device covertly smuggled into the Tehran guesthouse where he was staying, according to seven Middle Eastern officials, including two Iranians, and an American official.

The bomb had been hidden approximately two months ago in the guesthouse, according to five of the Middle Eastern officials. The guesthouse is run and protected by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and is part of a large compound, known as Neshat, in an upscale neighborhood of northern Tehran.

Mr. Haniyeh was in Iran’s capital for the presidential inauguration. The bomb was detonated remotely, the five officials said, once it was confirmed that he was inside his room at the guesthouse. The blast also killed a bodyguard.

The explosion shook the building, shattered some windows and caused the partial collapse of an exterior wall, according to the two Iranian officials, members of the Revolutionary Guards briefed on the incident. Such damage was also evident in a photograph of the building shared with The New York Times.

Mr. Haniyeh, who had led Hamas’s political office in Qatar, had stayed at the guesthouse several times when visiting Tehran, according to the Middle Eastern officials. All of the officials spoke on the condition of anonymity to share sensitive details about the assassination.

[Mother mopar 3288]

2 months and no one found it during routine sweeps...wth.

[Hate 20098]

Wouldn’t that imply someone on the Revolutionary Guard knew about it? 

Edited August 1 by Hate

[Texzilla588 767]

Go Mossad. Just brilliance. Iranians likely only look for big black balls that say BOMB like a road runner cartoon. Now they all know every where they stay could be compromised. Israel is going to take them all out like they did the Black September murderers. One by fucking one.

Also getting blowed up like that doesn’t count as conscious martyrdom so no parade of virgins that look like Rosie ODonnell.

[CHIEF 5052]

It may be a chickenshit idea, it is a funeral after all. But if I were Israel, I would have sent about three cruise missiles as condolences. It would have taken out most of the high ranking Hezbollah command structure as well as high ranking officials from any country that is sympathetic with both Hezbollah and Hamas. If the shoe was on the other foot, neither terrorist organization would miss that opportunity if they had the weaponry to pull it off.

CHIEF

[Laxtonto 11902]

Talking to a friend of mine who is a retired Cold War intelligence wonk today about this...

We ended up with a laundry list of questions about how and why and what this means. Lots of facets to this that all lead to a variety of interesting questions.

1. How did they know he was going to be in this specific residence 2 months ago? Did they plant this bomb 2 months ago for a jsut in case opportunity or did they know whenever he visits Tehran he always stays there and knew the bomb won't be found? Or did they plant bombs in all of the guesthouses just to be through? I bet there is a lot of ripped-up drywall right now in Tehran..

2. How did they know he was using that specific guest house? If they planted bombs in all of them, how did they know he was in that specific one that day? If they only had the bomb in that one, how did he get assigned to that particular guest house? Was it chance or did the person involved in assigning rooms put him there on purpose?

3. How did a bomb not get detected in the wall of a guesthouse for over 2 months? So is this an extreme security failure due to poor screening? Or is this a type of bomb-making component that they can't detect? No explosive should be able to avoid detection for over 2 months in a high-end visiting diplomatic residence. Where is the failure? How many failures are there? Where else then might also be at risk?

4. Who in Tehran was involved and how did the Israelis get into the location to plant the bomb? How many points of failure in personal screening and security assessments are there? How far has Israel infiltrated the Republican Guards?

5. When do the purges start in the Security Forces? There are going to be massive questions regarding who they can trust at this point. With a new President and an aging Ayatollah the internal politics is going to be brutal. This now provides a huge cover to settle grudges and, in truth, how can they trust anyone involved in security there now?

 

The fact that they did this in Tehran, in their high-end guest house sends an undeniable message that no one is safe from Israeli reprisals. If they can get Haniyeh there, they can get others elsewhere in Tehran and throughout the world. This sends a much larger message than people want to admit to...

[NeverMarryAStripper 21780]

32 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

It may be a chickenshit idea, it is a funeral after all. But if I were Israel, I would have sent about three cruise missiles as condolences. It would have taken out most of the high ranking Hezbollah command structure as well as high ranking officials from any country that is sympathetic with both Hezbollah and Hamas. If the shoe was on the other foot, neither terrorist organization would miss that opportunity if they had the weaponry to pull it off.

CHIEF

Wouldn’t that make the U.S. a state sponsor of terrorism so we would have to sanction ourselves

[Anastasis 23332]

9 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Wouldn’t that make the U.S. a state sponsor of terrorism so we would have to sanction ourselves

State sponsor of ethnic cleansing at the moment. Focused terrorism would probably be a step in a direction with fewer mass casualties.  

Edited August 2 by Anastasis

[Captainant 27251]

14 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

Wouldn’t that make the U.S. a state sponsor of terrorism so we would have to sanction ourselves

I mean, it's not like DoD and Raytheon hasn't sent a supersonic, GPS guided wreath or two to funerals before

[CHIEF 5052]

Do the Israelis not have their own cruise missiles? They are a nuclear power after all. Just use their own shit. 

 

CHIEF

[atomheartbevo 89306]

We are sending at least two carrier task forces towards the Persian Gulf.  We deterred Russia from supplying the Houthis with more weapons.

Meanwhile, in Iran

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19 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

We are sending at least two carrier task forces towards the Persian Gulf.  We deterred Russia from supplying the Houthis with more weapons.

Meanwhile, in Iran

 

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A squadron of F-22’s are on the way / in place 

[Captainant 27251]

The US embassy in Beirut is advising citizens to leave Lebanon on "any ticket available"

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c80xxeqel5po

 

[Blotto 23366]

On 7/31/2024 at 3:07 PM, Brisketexan said:

Yep.  Which is why Iran needs to launch an "everything, all at once" attack wave.  Of course, their NEXT move after doing that is the really interesting one....

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[InkaUtexas 25307]

Hmmmm... About being the third dude on this billboard.

A car drives past a poster depicting late Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh, top commander of Iran's Quds Force Qassem Soleimani and Hezbollah top commander Fuad Shukr in Beirut, Lebanon

 

 

88166917-13709687-A_car_drives_past_a_poster_depicting_late_Hamas_leader_Ismail_Ha-a-49_1722853740834.avif 88166917-13709687-A_car_drives_past_a_poster_depicting_late_Hamas_leader_Ismail_Ha-a-49_1722853740834.avif

Edited August 5 by InkaUtexas

[Mother mopar 3288]

A squadron of F-22’s are on the way / in place 

Stopped in RAF Lakenheath yesterday for fuel before heading on to...you know.

Unit is from Elmendorf AFB out of Alaska.

[Bevo 13468]

8 minutes ago, Mother mopar said:

Stopped in RAF Lakenheath yesterday for fuel before heading on to...you know.

Unit is from Elmendorf AFB out of Alaska.

 

Named after the aggie football player Dave Elmendorf.

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1 hour ago, Mother mopar said:

Stopped in RAF Lakenheath yesterday for fuel before heading on to...you know.

Unit is from Elmendorf AFB out of Alaska.

Imagine the Russians try to deploy a squadron of its most advanced  far around the globe. Because that’s all you can do is imagine, because they can’t actually do that.

58 minutes ago, Bevo said:

Named after the aggie football player Dave Elmendorf.

Randomly met him at a golf course in Missouri City several years ago, seemed nice enough. 

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2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Randomly met him at a golf course in Missouri City several years ago, seemed nice enough.

 

I had no clue that he was from Texas until I looked him up when I posted. I think it said he went to Westbury High School.

[Mother mopar 3288]

 
Named after the aggie football player Dave Elmendorf.

Thought it was named after Hugh Elmendorf, which attended Cornell University.