TCU @ Texas Series Thread

[Js1 85,259]

Just now, Hookem2147 said:

I find it hard to believe a ball potentially hitting a runner doesn’t fall under “all baserunning rules”

[Hookem2147 21,188]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Any play should be reviewable (aside from balls and strikes). If you are going to have replay available, get the calls right. All of them. It’s not that difficult.

[Hondo 682]

29 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

Cool, so now looks like Pierce will miss the first game of the OU series.  Over some bullshit.

 

And this is a bad thing why? 😀

[Balcones 317]

Only 2 more Tuesday games. And 12 more Big 12 games. Warren Nolan has is going 11-3. Should be good enough for high 30 RPI.

[zlavydra 2,119]

Just noticed we unfortunately never saw Ben Hampton. What happened to that guy? @Hookem2147

[Hookem2147 21,188]

1 minute ago, zlavydra said:

Just noticed we unfortunately never saw Ben Hampton. What happened to that guy? @Hookem2147

Regressed, like so many others on that team. 7.11 ERA this year.

Edited April 21 by Hookem2147

[Hammerin Hank 1,225]

I was at the game and could not see the ball hit the runner. The ball didn’t change trajectory or slow down. I’ve seen some of y’all say it did hit the runner so I’ll take your word for it, but it’s completely reasonable for Pierce to react the way he did. I was reacting about the same. Initially the home plate umpire was as asking Saarloos if he wanted to challenge 

[dcar00 14,145]

1 minute ago, Hammerin Hank said:

I was at the game and could not see the ball hit the runner. The ball didn’t change trajectory or slow down. I’ve seen some of y’all say it did hit the runner so I’ll take your word for it, but it’s completely reasonable for Pierce to react the way he did. I was reacting about the same. Initially the home plate umpire was as asking Saarloos if he wanted to challenge 

the umpires fucked that up six ways from sunday.  just review it and be done.

[chase25 2,048]

I went back and watched the ball that hit Peyton. One there is no way to tell whether it did or didn’t hit him. 

Pierce was livid when they told him that it was not reviewable and when they came back from commercial to start the 8th you can see him say to one of the umps “how can you not review that”

Props to the TCU players for selling the shit out of it because if that isn’t a reviewable play I’m teaching everyone of my infielders to point and act irate when a ball comes close to a runner. At least make the umps sweat and make a call

[ClubWhatever 12,120]

3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

the umpires fucked that up six ways from sunday.  just review it and be done.

It seems that might be the one call in the game, besides ball/strike, that is not reviewable.

[jimmyjazz 45,877]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

It seems that might be the one call in the game, besides ball/strike, that is not reviewable.

Why do you say that?

[Js1 85,259]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why do you say that?

The NCAA baseball rule book does not explicitly say whether a runner being hit a batted ball is reviewable or not. 

[petscii 1,189]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

The NCAA baseball rule book does not explicitly say whether a runner being hit a batted ball is reviewable or not. 

If the ump said he saw it hit the player that is not reviewable.

That is what the second umpire said.  The first umpire did not see it, checked with the second who said it hit him.

[hobbes2702 13,028]

41 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

It doesn’t appear by a cursory reading of the rules that whether or not a batter ball hits a base runner is reviewable by a head coaches challenge 

If you can review touching a base you can review a live ball hitting a base runner. It’s absolutely reviewable 

[hobbes2702 13,028]

The rulebook says all baserunning rules. That falls strictly in that category 

[AUS-97HORN 11,756]

1 hour ago, Hookem2147 said:

 If you are going to have replay available, get the calls right. All of them. It’s not that difficult.

Jesus man, you have to be out of your mind to advocate that. 

Every fucking review at a bare minimum takes 2 mins away from gametime- starting from the moment the umps decide to call time, huddle, confirm their call on the field, then ask if a coach wants to review, then run to the review booth, and then review, come back with a decision and then all the umps are back in position before its back to play ball.

And thats for the hyper obvious ones, like ball clearly hits either fair or foul, or runner safe at first while ball is still clearly in the air, etc. you do the first base safe/not safe back and forth review like we had to do today and thats taking some serious time to get completed. 

all 3 major review this week took at least 4 mins.  if we are reviewing everything, even if its just 10 total calls a game, we are adding ~+30 mins to every game. 

[Js1 85,259]

Just now, AUS-97HORN said:

Jesus man, you have to be out of your mind to advocate that. 

Every fucking review at a bare minimum takes 2 mins away from gametime- starting from the moment the umps decide to call time, huddle, confirm their call on the field, then ask if a coach wants to review, then run to the review booth, and then review, come back with a decision and then all the umps are back in position before its back to play ball.

And thats for the hyper obvious ones, like ball clearly hits either fair or foul, or runner safe at first while ball is still clearly in the air, etc. you do the first base safe/not safe back and forth review like we had to do today and thats taking some serious time to get completed. 

all 3 major review this week took at least 4 mins.  if we are reviewing everything, even if its just 10 total calls a game, we are adding ~+30 mins to every game. 

SEC does centralized video review. Decision comes down from the replay official in the SEC office. Does cut down on review times 

[Hookem2147 21,188]

5 minutes ago, AUS-97HORN said:

Jesus man, you have to be out of your mind to advocate that. 

Every fucking review at a bare minimum takes 2 mins away from gametime- starting from the moment the umps decide to call time, huddle, confirm their call on the field, then ask if a coach wants to review, then run to the review booth, and then review, come back with a decision and then all the umps are back in position before its back to play ball.

And thats for the hyper obvious ones, like ball clearly hits either fair or foul, or runner safe at first while ball is still clearly in the air, etc. you do the first base safe/not safe back and forth review like we had to do today and thats taking some serious time to get completed. 

all 3 major review this week took at least 4 mins.  if we are reviewing everything, even if its just 10 total calls a game, we are adding ~+30 mins to every game. 

Each coach gets 2 reviews to use per game as things currently stand. Umpires can call for a crew initiated review as well. Why should they not allow coaches to review anything they want outside of balls and strikes? Hell, the current rules allow them to review almost anything except for like 3-4 things.

I don’t think that is extreme. And as mentioned above, SEC has centralized review so umpires don’t even have to leave the field.

Edited April 21 by Hookem2147

[jimmyjazz 45,877]

So, riddle me this.  If the umpires have discretion to pull what amounts to a red card in soccer (although already after an ejection), why the hell does Pierce not know this?

Wouldn't it stand to reason that once you've been tossed, you've accomplished your goal (if that was the goal) and to then shut the fuck up?

[petscii 1,189]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

So, riddle me this.  If the umpires have discretion to pull what amounts to a red card in soccer (although already after an ejection), why the hell does Pierce not know this?

Wouldn't it stand to reason that once you've been tossed, you've accomplished your goal (if that was the goal) and to then shut the fuck up?

I think it used to be referred to as getting your money's worth on the ejection.  

[ConferenceRoom 6,141]

David Pierce doesn’t really think critically about baseball while the game is in process from what I’ve seen. At least this season. 

[UnhappilyMarried 815]

Believe that makes 4 straight series Ws vs TCU too

[Hookem2147 21,188]

TCU hitting coach 

 

[ClubWhatever 12,120]

They just suck, but they did hit a number of balls right at people.  And several that were knocked down by the wind that had home run exit velocity on other days.  But so did we.

[zlavydra 2,119]

They have nothing except Tolle and the closer. As I kept saying, the guy hitting second has worse numbers than O'Dowd would over a full season 

[TornACL 7,698]

21 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

TCU hitting coach 

 

Maybe their hitting coach should spend less time searching his own name on Twitter and more time working with the kids 

[NeverMarryAStripper 21,867]

3 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

The rulebook says all baserunning rules. That falls strictly in that category 

The rule book absolutely does not say that

[TwiceHorn 31,435]

15 minutes ago, NeverMarryAStripper said:

The rule book absolutely does not say that

Yeah the quoted thing was some kind of summary not the rule book. 

[BarthHollamew 227]

So happy to see LBJ find his stuff today. Hopefully a big confidence builder.  If he turns it around, we at least have a prayer in the post-season.  

[hobbes2702 13,028]

3 hours ago, Js1 said:

SEC does centralized video review. Decision comes down from the replay official in the SEC office. Does cut down on review times 

Yup. I’d rather get the call right. Especially with college baseball umpires. Check all of it 

[petscii 1,189]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yup. I’d rather get the call right. Especially with college baseball umpires. Check all of it 

They did get the call right.  It hit him.  He's out.

Edited April 22 by petscii

[hobbes2702 13,028]

18 minutes ago, petscii said:

They did get the call right.  It hit him.  He's out.

I’m aware. I’m responding to the idea that they shouldn’t review it, or everything for that matter. Which is crazy in this instance considering there wasn’t a call made on the field. And is crazy in all others because college umpires are terrible 

Edited April 22 by hobbes2702