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Transfer Cycle 2024-2025 - A Panoply of Dipshits, Running Amok


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  On 12/5/2024 at 3:48 PM, closetojumping said:

I know it's early, but I just went through two sites, including PFF, regarding RBs for the 2025 draft.

1) Holy shit this is a deep class. 

2) Jaydon Blue wasn't listed on either site. Both sites had 30 or more TBs graded. 

This dude might not even get invited to the combine. 

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I agree with you on Blue. He's fast, but the skillset that he has shown so far is a dime a dozen to the NFL. The questions on my mind are:

  1. Is there any possibility that he realizes that he is not currently a draft prospect and actually decides to stick around for another year?
  2. If so, would the coaches even be interested in that? Especially if it comes with a price tag and/or an expectation that there will be more carries coming his way. To me, it feels a little like a Keaontay Ingram situation where it might be best for everyone to have a mutual parting of ways.
  On 12/5/2024 at 3:50 PM, HtownHorn said:

Based on my limited conversations with his family at the Cotton Bowl, he's one and done at Texas. They were pissed with the lack of targets, but he's been our only reliable and healthy WR over the back half of the season. NIL can change minds, but right now I would say he's moving on to the NFL.

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That's a shame. I assume he'd get drafted, but no higher than 5-7 round, IMO. He may fall into the category of "better college player than NFL prospect". We could really use him next year for all the reasons CTJ listed upthread, and to help with system continuity for Arch.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:03 PM, Red Five said:

I'm not counting on Golden coming back. Would think that would mean two in the portal.

Wingo, Moore, Portal

Portal, Lockett, Ffrench

Butler, Livingstone

 

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I dunno what it was like at Bama, but Sark doesn't seem enamored with freshman WR not named Ryan Wingo. I'm not personally expecting a whole lot from Lockett and Ffrench next year.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 3:50 PM, HtownHorn said:

Based on my limited conversations with his family at the Cotton Bowl, he's one and done at Texas. They were pissed with the lack of targets, but he's been our only reliable and healthy WR over the back half of the season. NIL can change minds, but right now I would say he's moving on to the NFL.

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Shit's changed since the cotton bowl. He emerged as Quinn's #1 target when Bond went down. Led all WRs in receptions, yards, and led the team in TDs. I can't imagine the family could still be unhappy with his targets. And when you consider what's coming back, I'd expect that trend to continue. He's too good. 

That being said, he could probably sneak into the 5th round in this year's draft, maybe? Tough to say because I doubt his combine numbers will be elite. He is an excellent college WR that does all the things you want at the position. 

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  On 12/5/2024 at 3:28 PM, closetojumping said:

I understand why this happens and I know I do it too, but you guys are high on your own supply with Blue. He's not a starter at Texas, he doesn't project to be able to add any value running between the tackles, he's not particularly tough, he can be overwhelmed in pass protection, he's not a skilled kick or punt returner and he has the worst case of fumblitis for any player on a Texas roster since Ricky. 

He does two things well - he's an excellent receiver out of the backfield and he's very fast. 

Keilan Robinson was drafted in part because he was an excellent ST guy in multiple ways and he was good to excellent at numerous facets as a TB, if totally undersized and unable to run inside. That's just not Blue. 

FWIW to those who weren't there, Golden did not walk on SR night. I am unsure of the rules and such, so maybe he couldn't simply because he's not going to graduate any time soon or something, but that's likely not the case. I took it as an indicator that he wants to come back. I think the dude is a terrific college WR, so I would love to see that. He catches everything, plays tough, runs solid routes, has a workmanlike attitude within the program, is helpful on kick returns, etc. It would be great news if he returns.

Plenty of guys come back within 9 months of an ACL injury and play like nothing happened. It's a truly individual issue, so no one knows shit right now, but it's more likely that he's ready in the summer than not able to workout in the fall, given history of others with the same issue. This isn't the 1970's. 

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Without any insider knowledge, I'm expecting Golden to return. For all ther reasons mentioned, and because I'm not sure he's going to test exceedingly well at one trait, and becuase I think Texas will make him a Jordan Whittington type offer. I also think the sales pitch of him having arch manning at QB who can actually hit deep balls will make a more compelling case for him to be drafted higher than he would be drafted this year. 

A core WR group of Moore, Wingo, Niblett and Golden with the Freshman sprinked in is salty enough IMO, particularly when teams have to respect the deep ball...and the run. 

I think we have too many RBs, assuming everyone comes back healthy, and to be honest, Im hoping Blue does enter the draft. I've about had it with his fumbles, but the fact he hasn't seemed to progress as a RB in any way between the tackles, even as the season has wore on, has me about ready to throw in the towel and see those snaps go to other, younger backs. We know Choice can fucking coach. We've seen it with Wisner's development throughout the season. Blue is the same back, either getting shoestringed on the edge, getting clogged in between the tackles, fumbling, or making some great catches out of the backfield. 1 out of 4 ain't great. 

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High on the list of things I never thought in my entire life I'd be saying out loud is "Michael Taaffe is going to be drafted...by the NFL." But here we are, unless he runs a Leon O'Neal type 40, which is still possible, but I think that guy has worked himself into the 5-7th rounds this season. 

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:41 PM, SydneyCarton said:

High on the list of things I never thought in my entire life I'd be saying out loud is "Michael Taaffe is going to be drafted...by the NFL." But here we are, unless he runs a Leon O'Neal type 40, which is still possible, but I think that guy has worked himself into the 5-7th rounds this season. 

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On that 3rd and Longhorn show DJ and Okafor talked about it and said it will depend on his testing at either combine or pro day whether he's drafted. They also both said he'll make a 53 man roster in the league even if UFA.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:42 PM, BurntOrange&White said:

On that 3rd and Longhorn show DJ and Okafor talked about it and said it will depend on his testing at either combine or pro day whether he's drafted. They also both said he'll make a 53 man roster in the league even if UFA.

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But will he get paid more by the NFL?

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:06 PM, Park Gothic said:

Honest question - what is going on with the fumbles in the RB room? Is it really that hard to hold onto the football? It doesn't seem like other schools have this problem, but maybe I haven't been paying attention?

I know that "hit the ball" is being taught more and more as a standard part of tackling, but that's hardly novel and you would think the coaching / players would have adjusted at this point. 

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I'll get mocked and eyerolled on this, so be it. I had fumblitis in the 7th grade. 12 year old me was psyched out about the shit in ways I have never been elsewhere in my life. Couldn't fix it. Every time a handoff to me was called in the huddle, people openly bitched about it. I fumbled once on a long almost touchdown run, wide open down the sidelines and no one within 10 yards of me. Whoop! Right out of bounds.

Came back for 5 more seasons of football, touching the ball 8-25 times a game and fumbled twice in five years, both on perfect punchouts by the defender. No clue how it works for grown adults, but that shit is brutal on the mental end.

  On 12/5/2024 at 4:18 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

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No thanks. That dude defines mediocrity for highly rated WRs. 

  On 12/5/2024 at 4:34 PM, Red Five said:

What are the thoughts on Taaffe coming back? If not then we absolutely need to go get a safety. Maybe even if he does come back.

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He was valued enough in this last cycle by the staff to merit a significant NIL placement. I think if they can get him back, they'd absolutely take him. 

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:41 PM, Hookem2147 said:

Isn’t this the son of the old Texas track coach we fired for some shady stuff?

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  On 12/5/2024 at 1:31 PM, Huckleberry said:

Now it certainly doesn't mean one guy can't be good, but Purdue this year was historically terrible as we all know. I have them as the 8th worst power conference team this century ahead of only a couple of Duke squads, a couple of Kansas squads, an Indiana team, and the infamous 2008 Apple Cup participants.

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I absolutely love Baxter, but he showed up to campus hurt, was hurt on and off again last season, and then blew out his knee before this season. I hope to hell he comes back at 100% and has a spectacular year before going pro, but the injury track record isn't great. How much can you depend on him? 

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:49 PM, Red Five said:

If you're ranking our best safeties since Earl Thomas, where do you slot Taaffe? Sounds nuts, but he's really good. 

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Funny considering all the idiots on this site that wanted him gone based on him being a white walk-on. He was our most consistent safety last year and nothing has changed this year beyond being surrounded by better players than he had before. He deserves every bit of praise we or anyone else can give him. If he wants to come back, sign me up, the dude is a baller.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:54 PM, Mitch Cumsteen said:

I absolutely love Baxter, but he showed up to campus hurt, was hurt on and off again last season, and then blew out his knee before this season. I hope to hell he comes back at 100% and has a spectacular year before going pro, but the injury track record isn't great. How much can you depend on him? 

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The injury this summer was a stupid thing. Late hit on him after a play was whistled dead by a try-hard trying to standout to the coaches. I agree with what you're saying, nonetheless.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:56 PM, Longhornlove said:

Funny considering all the idiots on this site that wanted him gone based on him being a white walk-on. He was our most consistent safety last year and nothing has changed this year beyond being surrounded by better players than he had before. He deserves every bit of praise we or anyone else can give him. If he wants to come back, sign me up, the dude is a baller.

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He's not the same player, though. We'd always heard about Taafe as a player with "obvious physical limitations", exactly the same way they'd talk about Jerrin Thompson. But Taafe has gotten faster and stronger since last year and those physical limitations don't show up on film like they used to. It helps Taafe that we have better corners, but he's improved significantly. 

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  On 12/5/2024 at 5:01 PM, Ricky's one-hitter said:

He's not the same player, though. We'd always heard about Taafe as a player with "obvious physical limitations", exactly the same way they'd talk about Jerrin Thompson. But Taafe has gotten faster and stronger since last year and those physical limitations don't show up on film like they used to. It helps Taafe that we have better corners, but he's improved significantly. 

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Taafe was faster than anyone was willing to admit to begin with. I never said he didn't improve, of course he has. He is a better athlete than anyone has given him credit for. My point stands. He was our most consistent safety las year as well as this year. I personally neb=ver bashed hime for any reason including being a white walk-on. Some in this thread did however.

Quite embarrassing to bash a kid who walked on here because he loved the school yet had other offers. He has risen to the occasion by getting playing time, then starting, then earning a scholarship while being a leader throughout it all. Just last offseason people were hoping he got replaced. I honestly can't speak highly enough of him. Not to mention his close friendship with Arch.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:49 PM, Red Five said:

If you're ranking our best safeties since Earl Thomas, where do you slot Taaffe? Sounds nuts, but he's really good. 

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Draft (round):

2010: Thomas (1st)

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2013: Vaccaro (1st)

2015: M Thompson (5th), Diggs (6th)

2018: Elliott (6th)

2020: Jones (3rd)

2021: Sterns (5th)

Vaccaro, Diggs, Elliott, and Jones had (or are having) productive NFL careers. Thompson and Sterns had much shorter stints. The first four all had more college production Taaffe currently does, but he's not far behind. However, Mookie is having a hell of a season this year. It's hard to rank them, because Taaffe has a much better defense around him than the others.

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I can't see Blue getting drafted. Gibson just got a deal with Maserati Austin so I assume he's not portaling? RB room is pretty crowded, I could see Blue in the portal although Baxter's health is a wild card

Golden and Taafe returning would be huge. I'm guessing both are mid to late rounders so could go either way but no real clue.

What's the NFL projection on Trey Moore? Does he return or go pro?

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Taaffe’s tangibles are great, but his intangibles are what set him apart. All he’s done is prove people wrong and I don’t expect him to fail at the next stage either. 
 

Don’t let him get isolated on a fast or quick receiver and he’ll thrive back there. 

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  On 12/5/2024 at 4:49 PM, Red Five said:

If you're ranking our best safeties since Earl Thomas, where do you slot Taaffe? Sounds nuts, but he's really good. 

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Some of that might be system oriented.  It helps he’s had the same coach for the last four seasons, for example, and that Kwiatkowski a great coordinator without having the Manny Diaz like inconsistency that comes from trying to manage around inexperience (NIL are transfers are also to credit).  That said, he’s gotten better every season and hasn’t dropped a fucking gimme interception against Tech.  

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  On 12/5/2024 at 3:48 PM, closetojumping said:

I know it's early, but I just went through two sites, including PFF, regarding RBs for the 2025 draft.

1) Holy shit this is a deep class. 

2) Jaydon Blue wasn't listed on either site. Both sites had 30 or more TBs graded. 

This dude might not even get invited to the combine. 

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Where do they have Golden? Mock Draft Database has him 6th round but I don't think it's reliable once you get past the 1st/2nd rounders

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  On 12/5/2024 at 5:11 PM, Longhornlove said:

Quite embarrassing to bash a kid who walked on here because he loved the school yet had other offers.

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Let’s be frank, I don’t think anyone is going to feel guilty taking a wait and see approach for yet another white kid from Westlake or Lake Travis.  Don’t blame the messenger, blame Greg, Mack, and Squints.  

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  On 12/5/2024 at 3:28 PM, closetojumping said:

FWIW to those who weren't there, Golden did not walk on SR night. I am unsure of the rules and such, so maybe he couldn't simply because he's not going to graduate any time soon or something, but that's likely not the case. I took it as an indicator that he wants to come back. I think the dude is a terrific college WR, so I would love to see that. He catches everything, plays tough, runs solid routes, has a workmanlike attitude within the program, is helpful on kick returns, etc. It would be great news if he returns.

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I'm guessing the "Juniors" who walked were all redshirt juniors, so seniors in the academic sense, but I haven't looked at the list so that could be wrong. I don't think Kelvin or Cam walked though either and safe to say they're gone. Regardless, definitely hope Golden comes back and it wouldn't be too shocking if he did

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  On 12/5/2024 at 5:34 PM, Tex-19 said:

I'm guessing the "Juniors" who walked were all redshirt juniors, so seniors in the academic sense, but I haven't looked at the list so that could be wrong. I don't think Kelvin or Cam walked though either and safe to say they're gone.

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Which is odd, because I thought Texas let the juniors who were likely to go pro walk to let them have a senior day. 

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Taaffe has a knack for being in the right place at the right time and he hasn't missed tackles this year, including some difficult ones in space.  He's playing as well as Elliott did in his junior year.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 5:30 PM, Tex-19 said:

Where do they have Golden? Mock Draft Database has him 6th round but I don't think it's reliable once you get past the 1st/2nd rounders

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He's not currently on PFF's big board, but no one should take much stock in that yet. Guys like Moose Muhammad and 3 WRs from CU not named Hunter are currently on there. I see a bunch of spares that are not going to project better than Golden at the combine or in film review. 

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  On 12/5/2024 at 3:50 PM, HtownHorn said:

Based on my limited conversations with his family at the Cotton Bowl, he's one and done at Texas. They were pissed with the lack of targets, but he's been our only reliable and healthy WR over the back half of the season. NIL can change minds, but right now I would say he's moving on to the NFL.

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I’m going to be wildly presumptive on this, but Nahlin has a type and he gets real excited about these Houston suburban kids with Dads who will talk to him.  He was pushing Golden hard as a recruit (unofficial mouthpiece for family, imo) and Texas only half-heatedly came with a late offer after missing on some others (if I recall correctly, WR recruiting was kind of a mess that year).  
 

Anyway, that kind of red-ass usually seems to lend itself to an exaggerated sense of self-importance on the field and Golden doesn’t play like that AT ALL, particularly in a position group typically filled with prima donnas.  I wonder if his parents are a little over protective of what they think their kid deserves, and he by comparison just wants to get after it on the field.  

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  On 12/5/2024 at 5:42 PM, LCHorn said:

I’m going to be wildly presumptive on this, but Nahlin has a type and he gets real excited about these Houston suburban kids with Dads who will talk to him.  He was pushing Golden hard as a recruit (unofficial mouthpiece for family, imo) and Texas only half-heatedly came with a late offer after missing on some others (if I recall correctly, WR recruiting was kind of a mess that year).  
 

Anyway, that kind of red-ass usually seems to lend itself to an exaggerated sense of self-importance on the field and Golden doesn’t play like that AT ALL, particularly in a position group typically filled with prima donnas.  I wonder if his parents are a little over protective of what they think their kid deserves, and he by comparison just wants to get after it on the field.  

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The conversation was based on his preceived draft grade dropping by being ignored. Though statisically this is his best season, maybe the 2nd half of the season cooled their jets, and I hope he would return. He's a great team player and he would be missed.

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  On 12/5/2024 at 5:49 PM, Kwix said:

 

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Another highly rated bust from the 2022 cycle. He sparsely received snaps this season. I'm sure he's expecting to get paid. I'd say "good luck" to him but he was one of the constant shit talkers along with talentless assclown Bobby Taylor during the 2022 cycle. I'm guessing some old stuff in his twitter timeline is pretty hilarious, going of off memory. 

BTW, that's 18, I think, out of 30 signees from the vaunted 2022 class that have now fully busted at ATM. 

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