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4 minutes ago, Newy25 said:


I would be surprised if we needed more than one defensive linemen to be honest. Other than tight end and kicker there isn’t an obvious hole in the roster.  Every other position you only question experience, not quality or depth. 

With Vasek being a constant health risk edge is fairly thin but very talented. 

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22 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

We have stacked 3 years of top 5 recruiting classes including number 1 class last cycle. We have also avoided portal losses of significance. 

I’m probably dumb and have forgotten someone, but have we lost a single guy to the portal that we didn’t want to/didn’t more or less actively encourage to go be fat (or suck) somewhere else? 

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40 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

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Mendoza was his roommate so Indiana is a possibility.  Cal is still working on him and his parents and family have been heavily invested in the team/family culture and activities (he is local to Cal, HS was like 30 minutes away).  All that said, if Texas or Alabama really want him, he would be well served for development and future NFL draft positioning to look their way.  We'll see.

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56 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

If you have six healthy scholarship running backs and you still think you need to go to the portal, you would need to ask yourself serious questions about your high school talent evaluation. Interesting that they are done at receiver. 

The only question is if you can categorize Baxter as healthy. I am not counting on him being a contributor, at least early next season. But Clark coming back so soon has reduced the critical need. So the only remaining question is do you take a RB just to be absolutely sure you have 6 healthy guys. 

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45 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I’m probably dumb and have forgotten someone, but have we lost a single guy to the portal that we didn’t want to/didn’t more or less actively encourage to go be fat (or suck) somewhere else? 

Walton and Tapp.  Neither have really done much so far elsewhere though.

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29 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Walton and Tapp.  Neither have really done much so far elsewhere though.

Interesting. Neither of those guys would be people I thought we were actively trying to keep, but Sark refuses to answer my calls about roster management, the bastard...

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29 minutes ago, Da Fino said:

Finkley left and got sporadic snaps while here. 

He is the definition of a guy that we were not trying to keep when I say that.  He graduated. He was a good soldier. He maximized. There were 5 or 6 ends better than him at the time he left so he wasn't getting any playing time. 

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2 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I’m probably dumb and have forgotten someone, but have we lost a single guy to the portal that we didn’t want to/didn’t more or less actively encourage to go be fat (or suck) somewhere else? 

We would have liked to have kept Neyor, right? However, his competition for playing time was going to be tougher in 2024 than it was in 2022, right?

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2 minutes ago, statsman said:

We would have liked to have kept Neyor, right? However, his competition for playing time was going to be tougher in 2024 than it was in 2022, right?

If I remember correctly Neyor sealed his fate when he refused to enter the game vs Wyoming.

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Logan Parr and Jamier Johnson are the most successful expats that I’m aware of, but neither were guys that we minded losing. 

Parr had a couple All-ACC years for SMU and made the playoffs last year

Johnson started last year for Indiana and made the playoffs. It’s now a weird situation because they recruited a couple CBs in the winter portal window despite returning both starters and Johnson is now not with the program

 

I haven’t seen Niblack’s name mentioned yet. I’d have liked to keep him another year, but it’s probably not a big deal. Hopefully that works out like Terrance Brooks

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18 minutes ago, statsman said:

We would have liked to have kept Neyor, right? However, his competition for playing time was going to be tougher in 2024 than it was in 2022, right?

I think in a theoretical world where he wasn't a diva, sure.  But that wasn't how it worked out in real life so i'm pretty sure either the door wasn't open for him to return or we didn't do anything to keep him from walking out said door.

There are some guys that played fine elsewhere that we kept, but I really don't recall a time where we lost a guy the coaches wanted and none of what's being brought up here counts. 

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Wasnt Brenon Thompson OU's top WR at some point last year? Not bothering to look up sooner stats

He's a guy that if he was still here would be in the way on the depth chart. We've come a long way from the Casey Cain days

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1 minute ago, cmontexas said:

Wasnt Brenon Thompson OU's top WR at some point last year? Not bothering to look up sooner stats

He's a guy that if he was still here would be in the way on the depth chart. We've come a long way from the Casey Cain days

I don't think he's done jack shit at OU.

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7 minutes ago, cmontexas said:

Wasnt Brenon Thompson OU's top WR at some point last year? Not bothering to look up sooner stats

He's a guy that if he was still here would be in the way on the depth chart. We've come a long way from the Casey Cain days

He was the top/number one receiver because the other 5 receivers ahead of him were hurt.

Posted
4 hours ago, closetojumping said:

It appears as though the money earmarked at WR got moved to Mosley. They really like the freshmen WRs early. Jackson appears to have been correct in his evaluation of McCutcheon, who he fought for as a target.

It's been said before, but Todd Dodge is a hell of a coach. My OSU buddy says they are raving about the freshman LB they pulled out of Lovejoy

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At some point the 2022 class deserves a retrospective. It’s kind of weird - the OL haul played a major role in our return to prominence, but the rest of the class busted pretty hard and has left us young and inexperienced.

The only non-OL/ST that contributed as juniors or remain on the roster for their senior years are Jaydon Blue, Jaylon Guilbeau, and Ethan Burke. Hitting on 3 of 19 non-OL/ST is pretty poor. A lot of coaches wouldn’t have been able to survive such a high bust rate in their first class. 

Just a weird class with a lot of interesting dynamics. Sark’s first full class, last class before the full SEC and NIL effects, highly ranked but immediately followed by a class that could go down as an all-time great, etc. 

 

Something more relevant to current transfer discussions is high school WR recruiting under Sark. It’s probably the second worst position haul in his tenure. I think it’s fair to say it’s disappointed compared to initial expectations given the reputation of Sark’s offense and the accolades his WRs have won. 

2021 (transition): Xavier Worthy, Jaden Alexis, Keithron Lee, Casey Cain

2022: Brenen Thompson, Savion Red

2023: Johntay Cook, Ryan Niblett, DeAndre Moore

2024: Ryan Wingo, Aaron Butler, Freddie Dubose, Parker Livingstone

2025: Kaliq Lockett, Jaime Ffrench, Michael Terry III, Daylan McCutcheon

The ‘21 class can be entirely excused imo. The only guy that was really his was an all-time great for us. ‘22 was horrific. Only 1 of the 3 in ‘23 is still playing the position for us. ‘24 looks like it could be really good, with one guy looking primed for a huge year and Ryan Wingo looking good too. Early returns on the ‘25 class seem better than the ‘21 - ‘23 classes, at least. 

There are some mitigating factors, of course. WR coaching issues the first two years, NIL allocation decisions across positions, the portal, etc. These just aren’t the results we were expecting when we hired Sark. 

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14 minutes ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

At some point the 2022 class deserves a retrospective. It’s kind of weird - the OL haul played a major role in our return to prominence, but the rest of the class busted pretty hard and has left us young and inexperienced.

The only non-OL/ST that contributed as juniors or remain on the roster for their senior years are Jaydon Blue, Jaylon Guilbeau, and Ethan Burke. Hitting on 3 of 19 non-OL/ST is pretty poor. A lot of coaches wouldn’t have been able to survive such a high bust rate in their first class. 

Just a weird class with a lot of interesting dynamics. Sark’s first full class, last class before the full SEC and NIL effects, highly ranked but immediately followed by a class that could go down as an all-time great, etc. 

 

Something more relevant to current transfer discussions is high school WR recruiting under Sark. It’s probably the second worst position haul in his tenure. I think it’s fair to say it’s disappointed compared to initial expectations given the reputation of Sark’s offense and the accolades his WRs have won. 

2021 (transition): Xavier Worthy, Jaden Alexis, Keithron Lee, Casey Cain

2022: Brenen Thompson, Savion Red

2023: Johntay Cook, Ryan Niblett, DeAndre Moore

2024: Ryan Wingo, Aaron Butler, Freddie Dubose, Parker Livingstone

2025: Kaliq Lockett, Jaime Ffrench, Michael Terry III, Daylan McCutcheon

The ‘21 class can be entirely excused imo. The only guy that was really his was an all-time great for us. ‘22 was horrific. Only 1 of the 3 in ‘23 is still playing the position for us. ‘24 looks like it could be really good, with one guy looking primed for a huge year and Ryan Wingo looking good too. Early returns on the ‘25 class seem better than the ‘21 - ‘23 classes, at least. 

There are some mitigating factors, of course. WR coaching issues the first two years, NIL allocation decisions across positions, the portal, etc. These just aren’t the results we were expecting when we hired Sark. 

Andre Coleman being our WR coach initially didn't help

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Posted
4 hours ago, Newy25 said:


I would be surprised if we needed more than one defensive linemen to be honest. Other than tight end and kicker there isn’t an obvious hole in the roster.  Every other position you only question experience, not quality or depth. 

I would be surprised. We have guys who can plug and leverage but nobody who is a mauling menace like we've had. Maybe I'm wrong and someone has been whipping asses in practice. 

Posted
4 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I’m probably dumb and have forgotten someone, but have we lost a single guy to the portal that we didn’t want to/didn’t more or less actively encourage to go be fat (or suck) somewhere else? 

Texas transfer OL Karic from Southlake Carroll became a 3 year starter for Tennessee.  

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18 minutes ago, jdhorn92 said:

Texas transfer OL Karic from Southlake Carroll became a 3 year starter for Tennessee.  

He wasn’t playing tackle here or even first tackle off the bench with Banks, Jones and Williams. I’d say you got the guy that probably had the best post Texas career in the portal era. 

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Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

He wasn’t playing tackle here or even first tackle off the bench with Banks, Jones and Williams. I’d say you got the guy that probably had the best post Texas career in the portal era. 

Agreed.  Had to look it up to be sure, i didnt realize he was at Texas 3 years.  He ended up  a 2 year starter at Guard (i thought it was 3) for the Vols.

Posted
3 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Johnson started last year for Indiana and made the playoffs. It’s now a weird situation because they recruited a couple CBs in the winter portal window despite returning both starters and Johnson is now not with the program

 

I haven’t seen Niblack’s name mentioned yet. I’d have liked to keep him another year, but it’s probably not a big deal. Hopefully that works out like Terrance Brooks

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