Transfer Cycle 2024-2025 - Helobious Is Giving Out Handjobs For DTs

[Bevo 13776]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

Him sucking out plaid?

 

[closetojumping 64725]

2 hours ago, SydneyCarton said:

A good addition based on on what? Him sucking out plaid and not even being draftable at this point? Like bear Alexander, he’s gotten worse every year except safety isn’t DT. 

Even talk to text is more creative than 95% of this board. Sucking out plaid is terrific. It’s like working in hydraulics. 

[Richter 2345]

I’m all for spicing up our harsh critiques with a little more style, so it makes sense to include patterns.  I propose adding “shitting his pants argyle” to the collective lexicon.

[BurntOrange&White 41345]

 

The question Gerry quoted is about the Ok St LB but I added because of the Purdue safety portion.

[Ricky's one-hitter 9446]

Plaid is the new blue collar. 

[closetojumping 64725]

18 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

The question Gerry quoted is about the Ok St LB but I added because of the Purdue safety portion.

If the Purdue safety doesn’t go to ND, it’s been made clear that Texas is really interested, allegedly. 

[HenryJames 66772]

Notre Dame doesn't take many non-grad transfers.

 

[Pato del Muerto 53168]

Purdue to ND would be like inter office mail. 

[Hookem2147 21652]

Duke might be upgrading 

 

[tokamak 6637]

8 hours ago, RabidM said:

Maalik is going to get paid somewhere.  His numbers were good enough to warrant what, mid 6 six figures into the 7 figures?  He is a QB after all. 

100%. The eye test may have told a different story at times, but someone is going to see 3000 yards, 26/12 ratio, leading Duke to a 9-3 record, and great physical tools in a RS-Sophomore and feel like that's something they can absolutely work with. People underestimate how many truly shitty QBs there are out there. Maalik has shown that he's already in, what, the top 25% of FBS QBs? Maybe higher?

He either was straight up tampered with by someone, or at minimum was hearing heavily from programs and NIL agents. He's going to do well. And honestly, good for him. Sucks for Duke but that's just the way of the world now. I'm definitely still rooting for the guy.

[Texasrocks 2242]

15 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Duke might be upgrading 

 

I'm curious about the order of events. Did he schedule a trip because Murphy entered the portal or did Murphy enter the portal because Duke was looking around?

[cochamps 1880]

2 minutes ago, Texasrocks said:

I'm curious about the order of events. Did he schedule a trip because Murphy entered the portal or did Murphy enter the portal because Duke was looking around?

Good question. I suspect the latter.

[hookem2010 2675]

Seems like a dangerous game for Duke to be playing. 

[texifornia 58345]

23 minutes ago, tokamak said:

100%. The eye test may have told a different story at times, but someone is going to see 3000 yards, 26/12 ratio, leading Duke to a 9-3 record, and great physical tools in a RS-Sophomore and feel like that's something they can absolutely work with. People underestimate how many truly shitty QBs there are out there. Maalik has shown that he's already in, what, the top 25% of FBS QBs? Maybe higher?

He either was straight up tampered with by someone, or at minimum was hearing heavily from programs and NIL agents. He's going to do well. And honestly, good for him. Sucks for Duke but that's just the way of the world now. I'm definitely still rooting for the guy.

My friend who's a pretty hooked in Duke fan said there's a real sourceoff - some are saying boosters missed a payment, some are saying he wasn't taking his classes seriously and wasn't going to get a degree next year, so he decided to go somewhere where he could get a bag and graduate on schedule.

[HenryJames 66772]

 

[dilloncp98 81]

Edit: Henry beat me to it.

Edited Tuesday at 03:16 PM by dilloncp98

[DixonHur 11881]

13 minutes ago, Texasrocks said:

I'm curious about the order of events. Did he schedule a trip because Murphy entered the portal or did Murphy enter the portal because Duke was looking around?

There has to be more to the Maalik story.  I can't figure out why he'd want to leave when Duke gives him as good a shot as anywhere to make it to the league, plus a damn good degree if he doesn't.

He doesn't strike me as the type to just chase a few more NIL $s.

[LCHorn 2731]

6 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

I keep finding this kind of thing curious.  Missouri presumably gave him a big commitment last year.  He’s also a local-why is there such a quick divorce?

[Mantis Toboggan, MD 1520]

Almost always the answer is $. Either his current school isn’t paying him what he wants or some other place is willing to pay him more.

[HtownHorn 15184]

So, aggy, Arkansas, Missouri, and LSU are all going to be dogshit next year.

[Bevo 13776]

26 minutes ago, texifornia said:

My friend who's a pretty hooked in Duke fan said there's a real sourceoff - some are saying boosters missed a payment, some are saying he wasn't taking his classes seriously and wasn't going to get a degree next year, so he decided to go somewhere where he could get a bag and graduate on schedule.

 

Sounds like some alum skipped classes at the Fuqua School

[closetojumping 64725]

32 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

This going to have to help dampen NIL enthusiasm at Missouri. This guy was paid a fortune to go there and he did jack shit, pouted, and left.

24 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I keep finding this kind of thing curious.  Missouri presumably gave him a big commitment last year.  He’s also a local-why is there such a quick divorce?

The guy put up some stats in one game - against UMass. They weren't super impressed with how he handled himself in the locker room or offseason, supposedly. He thinks he should have been starting because ... 5 star. So he'll go get a bag somewhere else. I assume OU would like another shot with him. Or maybe that is just me hoping for more comedy.

[MuellerHorn 4559]

20 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

So, aggy, Arkansas, Missouri, and LSU are all going to be dogshit next year.

And OU

[6th Street 6628]

Nwaneri recorded stats in only 1 game for Mizzou lol

[TexasGolf 5331]

3 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

And OU

 

[HenryJames 66772]

14 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I assume OU would like another shot with him.

He can go ride the bench with Adepoju Adebawore.

[Vito Andolini 9307]

Manny Diaz said, “Get me Mensah!”

I want to see his face when this fuckhead walks thru the door…

[Laxtonto 12948]

 

[speed817 19777]

3 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

Manny Diaz said, “Get me Mensah!”

I want to see his face when this fuckhead walks thru the door…

[LCHorn 2731]

27 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

This going to have to help dampen NIL enthusiasm at Missouri. This guy was paid a fortune to go there and he did jack shit, pouted, and left.

The guy put up some stats in one game - against UMass. They weren't super impressed with how he handled himself in the locker room or offseason, supposedly. He thinks he should have been starting because ... 5 star. So he'll go get a bag somewhere else. I assume OU would like another shot with him. Or maybe that is just me hoping for more comedy.

What you hit on is the evolving nature of NCAA football free agency and presumably it comes to mirror pro sports.  At some point the teams will wise up and figure out the template of what works (i.e., proportionally the money needs to go to who can play early or can offer additional value, like a back-up QB willing to sit for a couple of years in the right circumstance).  In the interim, a Yankees like ability to eat bad deals seems more valuable than smart deployment of money because there's too many parties (Aggie/Missouri) willing to be dumb with money. 

[texifornia 58345]

For some reason, Rivals is probably the best service at the data aggregation side of Portal coverage.

In today's roundup, nothing relevant to us, but A&M gets a couple mentions:

https://www.on3.com/db/kelby-collins-72316/

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The former Florida defensive end who’s now a four-star in the portal rankings is hearing from “a lot of schools” but the only visit planned so far is to Texas A&M.

The Aggies are definitely a team to watch and this could be a quick flip unless Collins wants to wait and see some other programs before a decision.

 

https://www.on3.com/db/micah-hudson-145743/

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After it didn’t work out at Texas Tech after one season, the five-star receiver was at Texas A&M on Monday and if all goes well the Aggies could be loading up majorly at wide receiver through the portal. Hudson is definitely one to watch as the Aggies were involved late in his high school recruitment.

 

[texifornia 58345]

Another frequent flyer. I seem to remember him being a kid from a good, stable background but having drug / mental health issues at UGA.

 

[closetojumping 64725]

2 minutes ago, texifornia said:

For some reason, Rivals is probably the best service at the data aggregation side of Portal coverage.

In today's roundup, nothing relevant to us, but A&M gets a couple mentions:

https://www.on3.com/db/kelby-collins-72316/

 

https://www.on3.com/db/micah-hudson-145743/

 

Collins was a nothing player at UF, but, hey the DL coach coached him, so there's that.

Hudson going to ATM will be perfect. I doubt either side will be able to meet the other's expectations on the field. Off the field, Liucci and the others will do what they always do and oversell the guy, make up every excuse in the book for why he couldn't crack the depth chart at Tech, and then let national talking heads and their fanbase blabber on in the hype. 

We talked about both behavioral and physical issues with Hudson when he was a recruit. None of that has changed. He's a shittalking prima donna with zero elite skills or physical traits. He was overrated then, and he's overrated now. 

[Hookem2147 21652]

I see Ole Miss being mentioned for a lot of these kids early. I just went and looked, and holy crap, they had 18 senior or RS senior starters this year. 

Going to be an interesting offseason for Kiffin.

[closetojumping 64725]

5 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Another frequent flyer. I seem to remember him being a kid from a good, stable background but having drug / mental health issues at UGA.

 

Recruiting ranking pedigree is something else. This guy has been a bum everywhere he's been. Totally irrelevant to any serious program. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:41 PM by closetojumping

[Vito Andolini 9307]

It’s always a red flag when a player who’s been in college multiple years has the blurb writers reference their HS ranking rather than actual college production.

[Pato del Muerto 53168]

21 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Another frequent flyer. I seem to remember him being a kid from a good, stable background but having drug / mental health issues at UGA.

 

I would have sworn this guy had played at Tennessee at one point. 

[Fud 9629]

I've been hoping that A&M would pay up for both Hudson and Cook, although it sounds like they might not be interested in Cook

[6th Street 6628]

Paying up for 5 star busts in the portal is absolutely the wrong approach. Not surprising A&M continues to lean in to this failed strategy. 

[bad_teammate 13447]

24 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

It’s always a red flag when a player who’s been in college multiple years has the blurb writers reference their HS ranking rather than actual college production.

Third-year sophomore transfer Josiah Fletcher's mom says he was always the strongest boy at the family reunion.

"He would finish his food faster than all of them and then go play for hours! Such a good boy!"

A&M Coach Mike Elko thinks Fletcher will be a key piece in a championship run in 2025! WHOOP!

[chainsaw 10206]

3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

The question Gerry quoted is about the Ok St LB but I added because of the Purdue safety portion.

They shut Indiana the fuck down

[Js1 86377]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Third-year sophomore transfer Josiah Fletcher's mom says he was always the strongest boy at the family reunion.

"He would finish his food faster than all of them and then go play for hours! Such a good boy!"

A&M Coach Mike Elko thinks Fletcher will be a key piece in a championship run in 2025! WHOOP!

Elko would neve recruit a player who gets to the post-game buffet before he does. 

[closetojumping 64725]

FSU Update:

-Bidding in big to win Thomas Castellanos (BC) after he was moved to 2nd team in Boston and then quit, midseason. After DJU, this seems smart.

-14 transfers out, so far. They're expecting others. One guy they're losing is the highly rated QB that they were keeping on the bench and grooming. Smart work.

-3 guys have declared for the NFL. 

They signed 20 guys in a recruiting class ranked 20th. Their roster is decimated and they're hoping to arbitrage the portal again, even after this past season's utter failure on that front. These guys might be really bad for a while.

[Newy25 7842]

In defense of Castellanos, Coach Chin Pussy can ruin anyone on offense. He also took last year’s leading rusher at the QB position and tried to run a pro style offense. Castellanos can be good in the right offense. But I doubt that is FSU. 

Edited Tuesday at 05:24 PM by Newy25

[gernblansten 3242]

7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

FSU Update:

-Bidding in big to win Thomas Castellanos (BC) after he was moved to 2nd team in Boston and then quit, midseason. After DJU, this seems smart.

-14 transfers out, so far. They're expecting others. One guy they're losing is the highly rated QB that they were keeping on the bench and grooming. Smart work.

-3 guys have declared for the NFL. 

They signed 20 guys in a recruiting class ranked 20th. Their roster is decimated and they're hoping to arbitrage the portal again, even after this past season's utter failure on that front. These guys might be really bad for a while.

[hookem2010 2675]

Is there a school with money that hasn't historically been a major player that has the ability and interest to take advantage of the changing landscape and become somewhat of a regular contender?

[BruceVonClaude 228]

2 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Is there a school with money that hasn't historically been a major player that has the ability and interest to take advantage of the changing landscape and become somewhat of a regular contender?

SMU

[Huckleberry 34164]

5 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Is there a school with money that hasn't historically been a major player that has the ability and interest to take advantage of the changing landscape and become somewhat of a regular contender?

What do you mean by historically a major player? Because the current #1 team in the country checks a lot of those boxes and isn't a blue blood by any means. 

[Professor Chesney 673]

15 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

In defense of Castellanos, Coach Chin Pussy can ruin anyone on offense. He also took last year’s leading rusher at the QB position and tried to run a pro style offense. Castellanos can be good in the right offense. But I doubt that is FSU. 

Yeah, actually fits well with what Gus likes to run.

[Richter 2345]

Seems like with this new portal & NIL system, roster management & retention is a bigger deal more than ever.  It would probably take years if you had as much roster turnover as FSU, OU, & A&M.  Those and others seem to looking forward to substantial rebuilds.  Places like LSU that don't have the cash to keep up with the Joneses might do better with a more developmental conservative approach than star-chasing.