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34 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Yes, I'm sure my objection will start pages of discussion that nobody cares about just as the speculation about Blue's draft spot did before it. 

I would have thought that you were using "whining" ironically considering the nature of your own post, but I see you didn't get the light-hearted spin I put on the notion of negging someone. Sad that you miss the irony in your whiny post.

There's also irony in you defending boring derailments as you, as well as I, have whined about them.

By all means, a nuclear neg-off. You get me. I love that.

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6 minutes ago, Dondrysdale1 said:

Is Niblett staying? Is he your speed back/receiver to take over blues role?

Burton is saying that Sarkisian likes where they're at with the WR room at this point. Evans would be a speed guy for returns. I've heard similar thoughts on the WR room and most of the roster. That's a change from this fall when the word was that they wanted to find a speedster to add to the WR room. 

If all of that is true, it tells us that the mix of Wingo, Moore, Niblett, Butler, Jaggerstone, Lockett, Ffrench, Terry, Dubose and McCutcheon is revving the staff's engine, for better or worse. 

3 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Golden at 23 for all players? That's absolutely wild.  I'd be thrilled for him if he made it into the second round- pretty happy for him to be a 3rd round guy.  I didn't have Blue in my last draft post speculation so, yeah agreed. He better get some serious track coaching skills and figure out how to kill that 40, which is dumb, but still apparently a thing.  I'm glad he declared as opposed to the transfer portal from a selfish perspective as I'd rather see someone else take his spot at RB and/or whatever NIL resources he would command, but I also didn't want to see him go get 1800 all purpose yards somewhere else and never put a ball on the carpet.  He either adds another longhorn to the draft or doesn't make us look bad by succeeding elsewhere. Win/win.  

I agree with all of this. I don't want draft eligible guys with the hope of getting drafted heading elsewhere in CFB. That said, don't be completely blown away if Blue does somehow join the portal as well in the next two days. Allegedly his NIL ask is absurd, but that's not coming from usual places so take it with a grain of salt. 

I would love to see Golden go early and as many longhorns get drafted as possible. Golden is the 4th highest rated WR on their Big Board, behind only McMillan, Burden, and Egbuka. Bond is the 11th highest rated WR and number 79 overall. They view Hunter (#1 overall) as a CB. 

I haven't read up on how this WR class is regarded by the scouts and such, but it looks like a really weak class to me. Burden looks like he's straight out of central casting as an early 1st round bust. I watched him many times this season and he's the worst kind of bitchass prima donna WR. That's an easy guy to root against. 

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31 minutes ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

I think this is something that every team should have moving forward. The play is pretty much unstoppable whether you decide to use a QB, backup QB, or even a TE body to run it. Just practice it and have the package ready to go.

It fumbled because we had Conner at center and he botched the snap. Also that was a traditional QB sneak, not the tush push. 

Also they tried to get tricky doing a rush up to the line and immediate snap.

QB sneak/push is a skill and Arch needs to develop it but I agree it needs to be used more. It should be an automatic 1-2 yards with him. Idk how you practice that though if the QB can't get touched.

The between the legs direct snap is a great way to keep defenses a little honest for it too.

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4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Burton is saying that Sarkisian likes where they're at with the WR room at this point. Evans would be a speed guy for returns. I've heard similar thoughts on the WR room and most of the roster. That's a change from this fall when the word was that they wanted to find a speedster to add to the WR room. 

If all of that is true, it tells us that the mix of Wingo, Moore, Niblett, Butler, Jaggerstone, Lockett, Ffrench, Terry, Dubose and McCutcheon is revving the staff's engine, for better or worse. 

I agree with all of this. I don't want draft eligible guys with the hope of getting drafted heading elsewhere in CFB. That said, don't be completely blown away if Blue does somehow join the portal as well in the next two days. Allegedly his NIL ask is absurd, but that's not coming from usual places so take it with a grain of salt. 

I would love to see Golden go early and as many longhorns get drafted as possible. Golden is the 4th highest rated WR on their Big Board, behind only McMillan, Burden, and Egbuka. Bond is the 11th highest rated WR and number 79 overall. They view Hunter (#1 overall) as a CB. 

I haven't read up on how this WR class is regarded by the scouts and such, but it looks like a really weak class to me. Burden looks like he's straight out of central casting as an early 1st round bust. I watched him many times this season and he's the worst kind of bitchass prima donna WR. That's an easy guy to root against. 

I wonder how much of the "shitty draft class at WR" has to do with shitty QB play after the Covid time went out, and how much of shitty QB play we have seen might be lack of normal top end WR talent.  

I don't love hearing that Texas coaches love the WR room as is- I think my #1 portal ask right now would be legit WR #1 (even over DT) as I like the two guys we got- I like what I saw from January, I like what I'm hearing about Terry and if the Edges and LB's are as good as I think they are going to be the front 7 will be nasty. I know we will end up with another body or two at DT, but I don't think they need to be game breakers. We don't have any game breakers at WR to my way of thinking. Sure, development does happen and maybe the freshmen are really good- but none of them seem to project to be a Smith or Williams or even Wingo for that matter.  So, I bet on worse at running this WR room back without our top two producers from this year and adding in 4 frosh. I guess the upside here is that's a pretty Darwinian room for Sark as he likes to keep it to only really playing 3 or 4 guys, so, whatever. 

If Blue wants to transfer I won't rend any garments or wear ash and sack cloth or anything, but I hope he just goes to the NFL so I don't have to devote anymore headspace to thinking about him after the rollercoaster he's been on the last 4 years going back to high school headcase.  I would say on balance we got the win out of his production here the last 3 years, but I don't know the opportunity cost and think we probably are cutting ties at the right time. 

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24 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Would also think that bringing in a transfer RB could drive Gibson to portal out for more carries elsewhere. So anyone we bring in would need to be a material upgrade. 

We'll see what happens, but if Baxter comes back full speed and Gibson makes the growth from freshmen to sophomore that he can....I can see Wisner being the 3rd back next year.

I love Wisner and what he gave us this year, but he is a serviceable running back, he isn't what we need as our starter for this offense.  People underplay the impact that losing Baxter had on Sark's offense this year.  He lost his best pass blocking running back and largely the only back that opposing defenses would have to gameplan around.  Blue and Wisner were good backs, but Georgia, OSU, Clemson, etc weren't scared of either of them.  And none of them Gibson/Wisner/Blue could pick up a pass rush to save their life.

So from a scheme and blocking standpoint, we became even more dependent on the pass game then we were already.

 

As always feel free to disagree.  My opinion on this isn't worth a whole lot.

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26 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Here's my issue with Sark - we're about to be in year 5 with him and we still can figure out how to score and put teams away like we should be doing. I'm hoping it doesn't snowball like Riley at USC where he refuses to let anyone else call plauers, even to the detriment to the program. 

Agree with all 8f this. Dude just needs to leave his ego at the door and just go find a bright mind to take so much responsibility off his plate. 

Milwee has play calling experience and supposedly knows the offense better than anyone not named Sark. Could he not call plays?

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7 minutes ago, FreeHorn said:

Milwee has play calling experience and supposedly knows the offense better than anyone not named Sark. Could he not call plays?

I have thought about this, actually. I just can't figure out why Sark won't allow him to call the plays. Maybe a lack of trust? I'm not, it's just weird. 

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7 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

. Sure, development does happen and maybe the freshmen are really good- but none of them seem to project to be a Smith or Williams or even Wingo for that matter.  So, I bet on worse at running this WR room back without our top two producers from this year and adding in 4 frosh. I guess the upside here is that's a pretty Darwinian room for Sark as he likes to keep it to only really playing 3 or 4 guys, so, whatever. 

For what it's worth Wingo was was the 32 composite player, and #7 WR.

Lockett was #22 composite player, #4 WR and Ff was #32 and #7 WR.

Not saying either guy is going to be Wingo but they are both excellent WR recruits.

NOBODY projected to be as good as Ryan Williams as a 17 y/o who was #4 in the composite after re classifying. That's insane and I think he was the long time #1 in his class before reclassifying.

Jeremiah Smith was the #1 player in the country in composite and was a 0.9997 overall recruit. 

There hasn't been a WR in the last few classes anywhere close to as good as those two. 

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3 hours ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

Did Ohio State screw up their running back room when they lured Judkins to the portal and signed him? After all they had Henderson on the roster who was a 5 star. What happens if Baxter has a set back in his recovery or reinjures himself? That would put us back in the same exact spot as we were this year.

Ohio State's RB recruiting has been shit since they grabbed Henderson.

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Bond probably goes pro, but as others have said, sounds like he won't be back no matter what (time-stamped for convenience):

Overall predictions for draft-eligible juniors:

  • Quinn: declare
  • Blue: likely to declare, slight transfer, tiny chance to return
  • Golden: declare
  • Bond: declare or transfer, but gone either way
  • Banks: declare
  • Williams: more likely to declare than return
  • Campbell: likely to return
  • Moore: up in the air, but more likely to return at this time
  • Taaffe: likely to return
  • Auburn: as of a week ago, likely to return to Texas. This was before he didn't see the field against OSU

Predictions for the Portal:

  • more DL numbers, especially if Moore declares
  • the right OL guy, if there is one
  • safety, if Taaffe declares
  • maybe TE, depending on Niblack

 

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2 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

I have thought about this, actually. I just can't figure out why Sark won't allow him to call the plays. Maybe a lack of trust? I'm not, it's just weird. 

What is remotely 'weird' about a guy that has called plays for his entire career, got this job precisely because he was elite at it, not wanting to give that up.  

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1 minute ago, Hermanator said:

I'm going to need more than a couple of seasons with a mediocre QB who can't throw an accurate deep ball before saying that. 

Sark's play calling is one of his selling points to QBs and skill guys. I'm also not taking the word of a couple of opponents. Just because you guessed right on the 1 out of 4 or 5 plays that go out of that formation doesn't mean you knew it was going to be that play. That would be the case for any offensive coordinator we hired, and in this case when the QB can't only get it there accurately up to 20 yds the options are very limited. 

Also, no one is in position to tell Sark anything right now. Piss him off with some dumb shit and he'll have an NFL by the Super Bowl 

Absolutely. It just, at this time, leaves a lot to be desired. However, I did state in another post a few days ago that I think Arch fits his scheme, so we should get better performance. I don't dislike QE in the least, but I think he's also limited, but Sark had no choice but to go with him because he knows the offense. 

As for the opponents, I agree with you to a point. I do think they probably did know some things, but like everyone, we have zero proof of that, and any kid can say Yep, we knew all along what they were doing". 

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3 minutes ago, Skipper said:

What is remotely 'weird' about a guy that has called plays for his entire career, got this job precisely because he was elite at it, not wanting to give that up.  

And not wanting to give it up to a guy who has NEVER CALLED PLAYS AT ANY LEVEL

Yeah. Let's hand the keys off to an Arch Manning led offense from one of the best doing it now to a guy whose never called plays ever. I say this as a guy who thinks Milwee brings real value to the program. 

There are some very real morons out here amongst us and they need to be shouted down before they think they should have a platform to spew their dumb shit out there for everyone to read.

Fuck. Even Ketch thinks that pushing for Sark to hand play calling off to a dude whose never done it before is fucking dumb.

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5 minutes ago, NoName said:

If Sark isn't calling plays then you waste some incredible amount of his value. Don't listen to that fucking idiot or anyone else who pushes for Sark to quit calling plays.

He has his issues but is universally recognized as one of the absolute best at it. Moving from Sark to AJ Milwee - or anyone else - is a downgrade in every single possible way.

Again. Ignore that dude, please.

I'd argue that Sarkisian is the best at writing a game plan and script going into a game. Once that script doesn't work and the game plan gets punched in the mouth vs equal or greater talented teams that advantage goes away. He's not the best in game when it comes to on the fly adjustments or changes and that has been shown the past two years and second halves down the stretch this year. 

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2 minutes ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

I'd argue that Sarkisian is the best at writing a game plan and script going into a game. Once that script doesn't work and the game plan gets punched in the mouth vs equal or greater talented teams that advantage goes away. He's not the best in game when it comes to on the fly adjustments or changes and that has been shown the past two years and second halves down the stretch this year. 

Who's better under those circumstances?

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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

What is remotely 'weird' about a guy that has called plays for his entire career, got this job precisely because he was elite at it, not wanting to give that up.  

True, but I don't think QE was right for this because of his limitations. I.e. Getting balls batted down too much, throws a moon ball, etc. But he was the only one who knew the entire playbook on  offense, so he do they best he could with what he had. I think Arch is a better fit, simply because he has a better arm, and he can escape the pocket. I expect bigger things when next season rolls around. We have the ingredients to win the NC, it's just a matter of it all gelling. My only really worry is the o-line. We have talent, but can they work together as a team? I really, really hope Cam Williams comes back. Goosby has been a nice surprise, Campbell can get better, but center LG worry me. Hutson just isn't very good. Since we haven't seen Neto against an opponent, I wonder if he's a better game day player than a practice player? I dunno  I'm just rambling my thoughts. 

I am happy that we made the semis again, and I'm grateful QE got us out of the gutter, but ue did what he could and I'm excited moving forward. 

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9 minutes ago, NoName said:

For what it's worth Wingo was was the 32 composite player, and #7 WR.

Lockett was #22 composite player, #4 WR and Ff was #32 and #7 WR.

Not saying either guy is going to be Wingo but they are both excellent WR recruits.

NOBODY projected to be as good as Ryan Williams as a 17 y/o who was #4 in the composite after re classifying. That's insane and I think he was the long time #1 in his class before reclassifying.

Jeremiah Smith was the #1 player in the country in composite and was a 0.9997 overall recruit. 

There hasn't been a WR in the last few classes anywhere close to as good as those two. 

Ryan Williams has been a freak since his freshman year of HS to be fair. He exceeded expectations, but most knew he was gonna be a day one contributor. 
DK Moore will likely do the same at Oregon.

WR is one of those positions in most offenses where you can get on the field early and make an impact if you take care of business. 

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46 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Burton is saying that Sarkisian likes where they're at with the WR room at this point. Evans would be a speed guy for returns. I've heard similar thoughts on the WR room and most of the roster. That's a change from this fall when the word was that they wanted to find a speedster to add to the WR room. 

If all of that is true, it tells us that the mix of Wingo, Moore, Niblett, Butler, Jaggerstone, Lockett, Ffrench, Terry, Dubose and McCutcheon is revving the staff's engine, for better or worse. 

I agree with all of this. I don't want draft eligible guys with the hope of getting drafted heading elsewhere in CFB. That said, don't be completely blown away if Blue does somehow join the portal as well in the next two days. Allegedly his NIL ask is absurd, but that's not coming from usual places so take it with a grain of salt. 

I would love to see Golden go early and as many longhorns get drafted as possible. Golden is the 4th highest rated WR on their Big Board, behind only McMillan, Burden, and Egbuka. Bond is the 11th highest rated WR and number 79 overall. They view Hunter (#1 overall) as a CB. 

I haven't read up on how this WR class is regarded by the scouts and such, but it looks like a really weak class to me. Burden looks like he's straight out of central casting as an early 1st round bust. I watched him many times this season and he's the worst kind of bitchass prima donna WR. That's an easy guy to root against. 

It's a particularly weak class considering how strong recent WR classes have been 

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4 minutes ago, WBT said:

Who's better under those circumstances?

It doesn't have to be someone on this staff that takes over as play caller. There is not a limit on the number of coaches a team can have now. Sarkisian can decide if he wants to run his offense, something similar, or something different. Identify what he wants to do and target play callers who excel at the things he wants to do. Like I said he's a great script writer and game planner but he's an above average with regards to in game adjustments and play calling once his initial plan doesn't work or script is over. 

In my opinion his strength as a game planner and script writer paired with a guy he's tabbed as a great in game play caller could be a recipe for elite success. Overall we've had average to good offenses at Texas, not elite. That is an area this team can improve. Our defenses have gotten better every season he's been here because of his coordinator and staff he has assembled on that side of the ball while his side of the ball is essentially stagnant. 

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7 minutes ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

I'd argue that Sarkisian is the best at writing a game plan and script going into a game. Once that script doesn't work and the game plan gets punched in the mouth vs equal or greater talented teams that advantage goes away. He's not the best in game when it comes to on the fly adjustments or changes and that has been shown the past two years and second halves down the stretch this year. 

Whats the expectation of whose excellent at that though?

Highest paid offensive coaches: https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/coach

Dabo has never called plays

Day doesn't call plays anymore

Riley we know who he is 

Norvell has been exposed and doesn't call plays I don't think

KdB is good but certainly exposed this year

Kiffin maybe?

No clue if Heupel is good at in game adjustments

Lanning doesn't call plays

Cristobal lol

Gundy lol

 

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50 minutes ago, Funk Doctor Spock said:

Here's my issue with Sark - we're about to be in year 5 with him and we still can figure out how to score and put teams away like we should be doing. I'm hoping it doesn't snowball like Riley at USC where he refuses to let anyone else call plauers, even to the detriment to the program. 

We’ve put plenty of teams away. We are 25-5 the last 2 years, including I think 10 or 11 wins against opponents who were ranked at the time of the matchup? It may not be in the manner you like but we won 11 of our 13 games this year by 10+ points, including all 3 of our rivals, and one of the ones that wasn’t was the stupid Vandy pick 6 that got called back.  
 

We need to continue to try to get a better level of consistency but that is easier said than done nowadays with what is now turning into a 16-17 game season. How many times is a team realistically going to play their ‘A’ game in a 16 game season? Even Ohio State, who is going to win it all, had to squeak by a bad Nebraska team at home and suffered an inexcusable loss to a Michigan team who can’t throw a forward pass.

Lincoln Riley is a soft bitch who doesn’t know what defense or program culture even is. I don’t see that comparison or fear of that comparison becoming reality at all.

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4 minutes ago, NoName said:

Whats the expectation of whose excellent at that though?

Highest paid offensive coaches: https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/coach

Dabo has never called plays

Day doesn't call plays anymore

Riley we know who he is 

Norvell has been exposed and doesn't call plays I don't think

KdB is good but certainly exposed this year

Kiffin maybe?

No clue if Heupel is good at in game adjustments

Lanning doesn't call plays

Cristobal lol

Gundy lol

 

The last play calling head coach to win a national title was Jimbo Fisher, do what you want with that fact. Going further back I can't think of a play calling HC that won a national title before Jimbo this century with Steve Spurrier being the other one in 1996. That could just be anecdotal but it seems two guys in 30 years isn't the norm.

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7 minutes ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

In my opinion his strength as a game planner and script writer paired with a guy he's tabbed as a great in game play caller could be a recipe for elite success. Overall we've had average to good offenses at Texas, not elite. That is an area this team can improve. Our defenses have gotten better every season he's been here because of his coordinator and staff he has assembled on that side of the ball while his side of the ball is essentially stagnant. 

Whose going to want to come in that's very good at their job and call plays for someone else's extremely well defined offense? Whose out there that makes sense to you to bring in?

Texas has has very good offenses under Sark, but not elite. Average? Come on now 

This year 18 OFEI on a top 10 schedule, last year 19 OFEI, 22 was number 17 OFEI

Having an average 18 OFEI should be better but that's far from bad. Come on.

His offenses are many things - good and bad - but average ain't one of them. 

1 minute ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

The last play calling head coach to win a national title was Jimbo Fisher, do what you want with that fact. Going further back I can't think of a play calling HC that won a national title before Jimbo this century with Steve Spurrier being the other one in 1996. That could just be anecdotal but it seems two guys in 30 years isn't the norm.

That's a fair comment to make across the board.

My issue is if you don't have him calling plays then why do you have him in that seat in the first place. So much of his value comes from that end. You don't hire Sark (or Riley) to make them a CEO Head Coach.

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19 hours ago, TheBryMan81 said:

I don't understand this board's fascination with comparing Quinn to "an NFL QB" when there are 32 different QBs all with varying levels of accuracy. At least 10 starting NFL QBs right now don't do the things you are talking about. And they are starting in the NFL.

Hell, #1 pick / Heisman trophy winner Caleb Williams, I've seen him miss the fade throws out of bounds again and again and again this year, not "hit (WR) without him having to leave his feet". Like most rookie QBs he has really bad plays and some outstanding plays.

Now, yes, GOOD NFL QBs make those throws, but, spoiler alert, veteran QBs are generally better than younger QBs. Quinn is a college Junior/Senior and a lot of people on this board expect him to have the consistency of a 7 year NFL veteran.

As a Cowboys fan, it brings me no joy to say this, but Dak Prescott will be entering year 10 of his illustrious NFL career and still can't hit WRs in stride or without leaving their feet.

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10 hours ago, cmontexas said:

This class is loaded and wouldnt be worth picking nits over this statement, but I was curious and looked it up and its hilarious that the Cowboys drafted a RB in the 1st round of this draft that didn't merit mention on this graphic

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The most impressive thing about that draft is that two running backs were drafted with the 13th pick.

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6 minutes ago, NoName said:

Whose going to want to come in that's very good at their job and call plays for someone else's extremely well defined offense? Whose out there that makes sense to you to bring in?

Texas has has very good offenses under Sark, but not elite. Average? Come on now 

This year 18 OFEI on a top 10 schedule, last year 19 OFEI, 22 was number 17 OFEI

Having an average 18 OFEI should be better but that's far from bad. Come on.

His offenses are many things - good and bad - but average ain't one of them. 

That's a fair comment to make across the board.

My issue is if you don't have him calling plays then why do you have him in that seat in the first place. So much of his value comes from that end. You don't hire Sark (or Riley) to make them a CEO Head Coach.

Would you say our offense was good down the stretch of this season? The best offensive performance we had in the second half of the season was Florida who was missing 3/4 starters in the secondary. I don't think our offense was very good this year regardless of what OFEI says....


Sark has shown that he is a good director of the program with regards to his recruiting, ability to assemble a staff, ability to replace staff, and the day to day direction of the program. Ryan Day was considered a really good OC as well prior to becoming a HC. He made the decision to go out and get an OC this year and it has rewarded him with a trip to the national championship. Now was Day as a renowned OC as Sark, probably not but he made the choice so he can focus on the team/program as a whole. In my opinion that should be the goal for a HC, the overall best for the program. Sark's side of the ball has underperformed the defense so it's worth questioning if he should do what Day did. Also just because you bring in an OC doesn't mean you're not part of the offense or planning. It allows you to take a step back and look at gameday at a macro view. It could also help Sark with in game adjustments, managing time, decisions on what do with certain down and distances, and finally situational football such as the red zone drives of the two semi final games. 

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I feel like we're missing something. 

It's a thank you letter and looking forward to the next chapter post? 

"Welp, I'm out of eligibility.  I'm out, go fuck yourselves!" 

Most players who leave early mention they are foregoing their eligibility and headed to the draft.  He's just mentioning his next chapter is preparing for the draft. 

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1 minute ago, taybo20 said:

Probably just don’t want to be left out of social media posts 

Personally, I just like the ones who are out of eligibility and announce they are headed to real life.

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10 minutes ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

The last play calling head coach to win a national title was Jimbo Fisher, do what you want with that fact. Going further back I can't think of a play calling HC that won a national title before Jimbo this century with Steve Spurrier being the other one in 1996. That could just be anecdotal but it seems two guys in 30 years isn't the norm.

I think that is more indicative of the monopolization of defensive talent using the bag game and selling self-fulfilling NFL draft numbers than it is of the ability of head coaches to be elite play callers.  It's an extemely rare combo to be an elite play caller and also be proficient at the bag game management and recruiting prowess it took to build dynasties like Alabama and Georgia.  There have been plenty of examples of championship play caller HC's in the NFL, where the talent acquisition and coaching functions are more separated.  Sark is a rare breed in that he seems to be able to do both.  It's probably easier in the portal and NIL era to do both, but as we approach the NFL model it's the talent identification and acquisition that needs to be outsourced more than it is the playcalling imo.

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3 minutes ago, AlrightAlrightAlright said:

Would you say our offense was good down the stretch of this season? The best offensive performance we had in the second half of the season was Florida who was missing 3/4 starters in the secondary. I don't think our offense was very good this year regardless of what OFEI says....


Sark has shown that he is a good director of the program with regards to his recruiting, ability to assemble a staff, ability to replace staff, and the day to day direction of the program. Ryan Day was considered a really good OC as well prior to becoming a HC. He made the decision to go out and get an OC this year and it has rewarded him with a trip to the national championship. Now was Day as a renowned OC as Sark, probably not but he made the choice so he can focus on the team/program as a whole.

Just because you bring in an OC doesn't mean you're not part of the offense or planning.

The Florida game was a 98.7th percentile offensive game per OFEI. Obviously outlier.

Texas played very well against Clemson.

I think you have to consider the situation with Ewers having a hurt ankle, but no they didn't play great down the stretch.

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You can think they had a bad offense but it's an absolutely incorrect take based on all the numbers we have access to.

And if you think Ryan Day wanted to go out and get a new OC for shits and giggles you need to review that situation. That was not a "I think I'll take a step back by choice" situation. Also no, he isn't and wasn't as well thought of as an OC or play caller.

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2 hours ago, DZX158 said:

That’s kinda my point with the cowboys. They didn’t draft him because he was the best available at a position of need it was due to the relationship. If his grandson likes Blue (similar to DMO) Jerry will draft him. Jerry wanted Brooks badly last year. The grandson may have played a role in that as well.

According to Brooks (so a direct source), Brooks thought he was going to the Cowboys. 

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I don't understand the wringing of hands over some kind of mythical "win now" mentality.

I feel like people think this is professional sports, with either some kind of salary cap/luxury tax, or the need for an owner who is so wealthy and so driven to win that they don't care what it costs.

There is no salary cap. We'll have to see how it looks after the settlement, but anyone who thinks that will be the final rule set college sports plays with for the next few years is kidding themselves. And until some capable enforcement body is set up that can actually investigate where the money is going and who it's coming from with a high degree of accuracy and can defend their actions successfully in a court of law - both factors whose chances I find negligible in terms of actually becoming reality - we're going to continue to have the wild wild west in terms of compensation for college athletes. 

The limiting factor really is how many deep pockets see an emotional return on investment from contributing to talent acquisition, specifically on an ad hoc basis. General NIL can be used to budget and provide minimum levels of compensation. But the kind of talent acquisition some of you are so worried about - "have to take advantage of Arch!" can only be provided by whales. I can't speak to each whale's ego, how it's fed, what makes it compelling for them to grant large dispensations to individual players. What I can say is that creating a sense of urgency with "have to take advantage of Arch!" or whatever other artificial sense of urgency that can be created, is effective. If someone is constrained with limited personal wealth to where they can't afford to invest in a college player one year without bankrupting themselves in investing in a college player the next year, they're probably not a good candidate to be approaching in the first place. 

I know that everyone has a limit. Phil Knight has a limit, and I doubt there's anyone spending as much on a single athletic program than he is at Oregon at every level. If he didn't have a limit Oregon would sign everyone they go after, but that's not what happens. They manage the team budget. They have a very sophisticated operation going on with a list of donors to approach. They make sure if a potential player is throwing off the budget for the entire team they can justify internally, both to the people putting up the cash, and the players already on the roster. Someone like Dillon Gabriel gets a premium, but it's easily explained to the players why that's the case. Someone asking for an absurd amount of NIL money to sign isn't automatically signed. They have to make sense to the roster, both in terms of contributing and in terms of what the overall payment structure is. 

Same thing with Texas, except Texas has a much deeper bench of donors. But even then, when someone is ponying up the money to grab a special talent, it's an emotional appeal that secures the deal. Not some kind of rational NFL GM approach. 

Honestly, that's why NIL isn't sustainable as a college football model. There's no guardrails. There's always going to be a Phil Knight type whose emotional fulfillment regarding his alma mater winning a national championship supersedes whatever financial sense it makes to compensate the players. It's still the market driving prices, but it's a market of 17th century tulips. 

In the meantime, I'm all in favor of going as all in as the big donors are willing to from one year to the next. Next year will take care of itself. And let's face it, the rules are highly likely to radically change from one year to the next, with no effective overseer trying to enforce them. For the foreseeable future, really. 

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1 minute ago, Hookem2147 said:

Many forget the first OC he hired was Bill fucking O'Brien and he got bailed out of it when O'Brien left for Boston College after 2 weeks.

Also his new OC was so great, they basically ditched the offense and installed a new one for the playoffs based on some other guy on staff having worked with Norvell. 

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I don't know how often PFF updates their big board, but they do update it regularly. Currently, they have Golden as 23rd on the board for all of draft eligible CFB players. 

For RBs, they have 29 players ranked in their top 300. Blue is still not listed as one of those top 29 RBs for the draft. Trevonte Citizen, formerly of LSU and currently at McNeese State, is the 282nd ranked player and last TB listed. There are names up and down the list that we'd all recognize, and plenty of them are also very fucking fast. 

Not saying it can't happen for Blue, but he better hurry up and get on that grind, cousin. 

PFF's draft rankings haven't been great. Brugler and Daniel Jeremiah are the best draft guys. Everyone is is kind of meh.

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14 minutes ago, NoName said:

The Florida game was a 98.7th percentile offensive game per OFEI. Obviously outlier.

Texas played very well against Clemson.

I think you have to consider the situation with Ewers having a hurt ankle, but no they didn't play great down the stretch.

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You can think they had a bad offense but it's an absolutely incorrect take based on all the numbers we have access to.

And if you think Ryan Day wanted to go out and get a new OC for shits and giggles you need to review that situation. That was not a "I think I'll take a step back by choice" situation. Also no, he isn't and wasn't as well thought of as an OC or play caller.

IF I am going to complain about Sark it is not for calling plays. It was the offense being sloppy. Where does this offense rank if penalties and turnovers were cleaned up? 

87th in penalties/game

87th in turnovers lost per game (1.6 per)

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Also his new OC was so great, they basically ditched the offense and installed a new one for the playoffs based on some other guy on staff having worked with Norvell. 

Allegedly.

It's not actually clear what the impetus was for running so many counter running plays. The speculation from PFF was that it was the running backs coach, Carlos Locklyn, because of his association with Florida State head coach Mike Norvell. However, that association consisted of being a weight room assistant, an analyst, and the director of high school relations - one year at Memphis and then another year at Florida State. He was the running backs coach at Oregon for two years, and Oregon also runs a relatively high percentage of counter plays, and HC Dan Lanning is also part of the Mike Norvell coaching tree from his two years at Memphis, but I don't know of any commentary from Buckeye sources, and certainly nothing official, as to what the source was for the change in the running game, or who was responsible for the change or implementation. 

Not that it's wrong. But I don't think we're being accurate to just throw it out there as factual, when PFF themselves said it was pure speculation on their part. It should be stated within that context. 

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